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Misschien dat de vaders niet bogen voor dreigementen en zijn dit de kwalijke gevolgen? En tegelijkertijd een signaal naar andere getuigen?quote:Op donderdag 20 december 2012 21:30 schreef Sapstengel het volgende:
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Maar waarom nou precies?
Gaat het hele proces niet door omdat er twee zoons van getuigen bij een aanslag zijn betrokken? Was het een vergelding van de personen die verdacht worden voor deze affaire?
Wat is er nou zo erg aan dat beide personen een vader hebben die gelinkt is aan LIBOR? Er wordt alleen overal gezegd dat die link er is, maar waarom precies zegt niemand.
Dan zouden de zoons tegen de vaders opstaan? Nee, klopt niet.quote:Op donderdag 20 december 2012 21:40 schreef Gray het volgende:
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Misschien dat de vaders niet bogen voor dreigementen en zijn dit de kwalijke gevolgen? En tegelijkertijd een signaal naar andere getuigen?
Een signaal afgeven waarbij bijna dertig kleine kinderen worden vermoord.
Juist. Heel logisch. Hollywood krijgt het zo niet verzonnen ...
Juist. Heel logisch. Hollywood krijgt het zo niet verzonnen ...
Curiosity cultured the cat
Hoge dames vangen veel wind
Whadda ya hear! Whadda ya say!
What is any ocean but a multitude of drops?
Hoge dames vangen veel wind
Whadda ya hear! Whadda ya say!
What is any ocean but a multitude of drops?
Dat zou kunnen, maar dan moeten die zoons wel zijn ontvoerd en daarna gedwongen om deze aanslagen te plegen.
?quote:
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Dan zouden de zoons tegen de vaders opstaan? Nee, klopt niet.
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
Denk je nou echt dat mensen die uit zijn op macht en controle daar ook maar iets om geven? Of denk je dat we na WOII plotseling allemaal engeltjes zijn geworden?quote:Op donderdag 20 december 2012 21:43 schreef Copycat het volgende:
Een signaal afgeven waarbij bijna dertig kleine kinderen worden vermoord.
Juist. Heel logisch. Hollywood krijgt net zo niet verzonnen ...
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
Deze bron ontkent een connectie tussen Peter Lanza en LIBOR:
No Viable Connection Between Peter Lanza & US Senate LIBOR Hearings
Susanne Posel Dec 17th, 2012 0 Comment
Susanne Posel
Occupy Corporatism
December 17, 2012
It seems the alternative media has been caught in purveying disinformation concerning the recent shootings in Connecticut, the father of one of the shooters, Peter Lanza and the London Interbank Offered Rate (LIBOR) scandal. In fact, research proves that Lanza has no ties to the LIBOR debacle, nor is there documentative evidence that Lanza is scheduled to testify at an up-coming hearing regarding the technocratic scheme.
One alternative media source claims that: “Peter Lanza was scheduled to testify in the ongoing global LIBOR scandal. In what could only be described an amazing coincidence, the father of Colorado Batman shooter James Holmes, Robert Holmes, was also a LIBOR witness in his position with FICO.”
No citation links are provided to corroborate this assertion – simply the illusory connection is made which seems to be enough to shift an entire social meme and cause distraction from the actual factual evidence emerging about the shooting; as well as the implications of this event with regard to the 2nd Amendment.
The rumor circulating the internet is based on assertions without evidence, which is being paralleled with the assumptions made about James Holmes’ father and another alleged connection to LIBOR simply because Holmes’ father is a computer economist at FICO. In fact, a known disinfo agent was the originator of the Holmes/LIBOR connection, although the alternative media masses continue to repeat the lie without checking their facts.
Another alternative media source has ties to purveying the rumor as fact without providing evidence with their social networking site as well as commentary that misleads the public in a thread at the bottom of an article concerning the recent shootings at Sandy Hook elementary.
According to Lanza’s Linkedin page, Lanza has worked “closely with many of the preeminent partnership tax advisors in the United States on a daily basis.” Currently Lanza is employed as the tax director and vice president of taxes at GE Energy Financial Services (GE-EFS).
Lanza’s responsibilities at GE-EFS include:
• Tax strategies, planning and tax operations
• Reporting directly to GE-EFS Chief Financial Officer
• Consultations on “structuring, negotiating asset acquisition, dispositions”
• Responsible for risk management on transactions
• Assist other employees in achieving business tax objectives
• Partner with GE Corporate tax group to “leverage technical resources . . . provide support on projects and initiatives”
Cited in mainstream media, GE has been successfully evading paying taxes for some time now. Although the corporation reported global profits of $14.2 billion with $5.1 billion of that total being attributed to American operations, GE claimed a tax benefit of $3.2 billion. Lanza, would have contributed to the success of GE evading corporate taxes in the US.
With the use of lobbyists on Capitol Hill, the abuse of tax breaks and creative accounting, GE has been able to pay low tax rates in the US; as well as move their monetary assets into offshore bank accounts.
While President Obama claims to want to reign in the corporate tax system and stop multi-national companies from cheating the system, he appointed Jeffrey Immelt, GE chief executive, as his chairman on the President’s Council on Jobs and Competiveness, as well as liaison to the corporate community and expert on corporate taxes.
The originator of the unqualified information about Lanza and LIBOR appears to be a member of the CIA-controlled and NSA-sponsored nameless, faceless hacker group Anonymous. Again, there are no citations provided that back-up these allegations, but that is not the point when disinformation is being spread across the alternative media circuit.
Propaganda does not require evidence to prove itself. It simply utilizes the ignorant masses that believe what they see and tend to repeat the lie as fact to their friends; family; repost to message boards, comment threads, social media sites which props up the lie until the truth no longer matters.
The reality of the shooting in Connecticut, as well as the previous shootings this year, is the beginning of a national call for gun control and the demise of the 2nd Amendment. Supporting the coming national debate is the mainstream media as they attack the survivors and victim’s families for verification on the facts of the incident. This information would only serve to propagate future discussions about gun control and legislation to restrict American’s ability to exercise their 2nd Amendment.
Last week, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg postured himself with this statement: “With all the carnage from gun violence in our country, it’s still almost impossible to believe that a mass shooting in a kindergarten class could happen. It has come to that. Not even kindergarteners learning their A,B,Cs are safe.”
Bloomberg said that Obama’s “calling for ‘meaningful action’ is not enough” and he would like to see Obama “send a bill to Congress to fix this problem.” He asserted that “a national tragedy . . . demands a national response.”
As a member of the coersive network called Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG), Bloomberg is one of 600 mayors across the nation that would like to see massive restriction of the 2nd Amendment under “commonsense reforms”. Bloomberg has contributed considerable financial donations to MAIG, along with the Joyce Foundation, a globalist Chicago-based non-profit organization started by Valerie Jarrett and Barack Obama.
On the WeThePeople website, a petition was initiated with the “goal . . . to force the Obama administration to produce legislation that limits access to guns” as well as a “national dialogue” to coerce the general public to support gun restrictions to “reduce the number of people murdered in gun related deaths.”
At the time this article was written, there were 124,626 signatures of support amassed for this petition.
The Columbine shooting, which is still misrepresented in the mainstream and alternative media, was used to instill the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 which identified semi-automatic firearms, or assault weapons” as dangerous and removed them from the hands of all Americans for 10 years.
Since then, the renewal of this restriction of the 2nd Amendment has not been approved by Congress.
Senator Dianne Feinstein said last week that “the president will soon have legislation ‘to lead on’ in the gun control debate.” Feinstein is heading the march against the 2nd Amendment with the introduction of a bill into Congress in January of 2013. This document is just now being drafted with a proposal for the US House of Representatives.
Feinstein explains the bill “will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation, and the possession. Not retroactively, but prospectively. It will ban the same for big clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets. There will be a bill.”
And while alternative media is spinning their wheels on disinformation and unsubstantiated allegations between Lanza and LIBOR, the Obama administration is setting the stage and implementing the necessary legislation to finally destroy our Constitutional right to bear arms and protect ourselves from this tyrannical government.
http://occupycorporatism.(...)nate-libor-hearings/
[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Ali_Kannibali op 20-12-2012 21:50:31 ]
No Viable Connection Between Peter Lanza & US Senate LIBOR Hearings
Susanne Posel Dec 17th, 2012 0 Comment
Susanne Posel
Occupy Corporatism
December 17, 2012
It seems the alternative media has been caught in purveying disinformation concerning the recent shootings in Connecticut, the father of one of the shooters, Peter Lanza and the London Interbank Offered Rate (LIBOR) scandal. In fact, research proves that Lanza has no ties to the LIBOR debacle, nor is there documentative evidence that Lanza is scheduled to testify at an up-coming hearing regarding the technocratic scheme.
One alternative media source claims that: “Peter Lanza was scheduled to testify in the ongoing global LIBOR scandal. In what could only be described an amazing coincidence, the father of Colorado Batman shooter James Holmes, Robert Holmes, was also a LIBOR witness in his position with FICO.”
No citation links are provided to corroborate this assertion – simply the illusory connection is made which seems to be enough to shift an entire social meme and cause distraction from the actual factual evidence emerging about the shooting; as well as the implications of this event with regard to the 2nd Amendment.
The rumor circulating the internet is based on assertions without evidence, which is being paralleled with the assumptions made about James Holmes’ father and another alleged connection to LIBOR simply because Holmes’ father is a computer economist at FICO. In fact, a known disinfo agent was the originator of the Holmes/LIBOR connection, although the alternative media masses continue to repeat the lie without checking their facts.
Another alternative media source has ties to purveying the rumor as fact without providing evidence with their social networking site as well as commentary that misleads the public in a thread at the bottom of an article concerning the recent shootings at Sandy Hook elementary.
According to Lanza’s Linkedin page, Lanza has worked “closely with many of the preeminent partnership tax advisors in the United States on a daily basis.” Currently Lanza is employed as the tax director and vice president of taxes at GE Energy Financial Services (GE-EFS).
Lanza’s responsibilities at GE-EFS include:
• Tax strategies, planning and tax operations
• Reporting directly to GE-EFS Chief Financial Officer
• Consultations on “structuring, negotiating asset acquisition, dispositions”
• Responsible for risk management on transactions
• Assist other employees in achieving business tax objectives
• Partner with GE Corporate tax group to “leverage technical resources . . . provide support on projects and initiatives”
Cited in mainstream media, GE has been successfully evading paying taxes for some time now. Although the corporation reported global profits of $14.2 billion with $5.1 billion of that total being attributed to American operations, GE claimed a tax benefit of $3.2 billion. Lanza, would have contributed to the success of GE evading corporate taxes in the US.
With the use of lobbyists on Capitol Hill, the abuse of tax breaks and creative accounting, GE has been able to pay low tax rates in the US; as well as move their monetary assets into offshore bank accounts.
While President Obama claims to want to reign in the corporate tax system and stop multi-national companies from cheating the system, he appointed Jeffrey Immelt, GE chief executive, as his chairman on the President’s Council on Jobs and Competiveness, as well as liaison to the corporate community and expert on corporate taxes.
The originator of the unqualified information about Lanza and LIBOR appears to be a member of the CIA-controlled and NSA-sponsored nameless, faceless hacker group Anonymous. Again, there are no citations provided that back-up these allegations, but that is not the point when disinformation is being spread across the alternative media circuit.
Propaganda does not require evidence to prove itself. It simply utilizes the ignorant masses that believe what they see and tend to repeat the lie as fact to their friends; family; repost to message boards, comment threads, social media sites which props up the lie until the truth no longer matters.
The reality of the shooting in Connecticut, as well as the previous shootings this year, is the beginning of a national call for gun control and the demise of the 2nd Amendment. Supporting the coming national debate is the mainstream media as they attack the survivors and victim’s families for verification on the facts of the incident. This information would only serve to propagate future discussions about gun control and legislation to restrict American’s ability to exercise their 2nd Amendment.
Last week, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg postured himself with this statement: “With all the carnage from gun violence in our country, it’s still almost impossible to believe that a mass shooting in a kindergarten class could happen. It has come to that. Not even kindergarteners learning their A,B,Cs are safe.”
Bloomberg said that Obama’s “calling for ‘meaningful action’ is not enough” and he would like to see Obama “send a bill to Congress to fix this problem.” He asserted that “a national tragedy . . . demands a national response.”
As a member of the coersive network called Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG), Bloomberg is one of 600 mayors across the nation that would like to see massive restriction of the 2nd Amendment under “commonsense reforms”. Bloomberg has contributed considerable financial donations to MAIG, along with the Joyce Foundation, a globalist Chicago-based non-profit organization started by Valerie Jarrett and Barack Obama.
On the WeThePeople website, a petition was initiated with the “goal . . . to force the Obama administration to produce legislation that limits access to guns” as well as a “national dialogue” to coerce the general public to support gun restrictions to “reduce the number of people murdered in gun related deaths.”
At the time this article was written, there were 124,626 signatures of support amassed for this petition.
The Columbine shooting, which is still misrepresented in the mainstream and alternative media, was used to instill the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 which identified semi-automatic firearms, or assault weapons” as dangerous and removed them from the hands of all Americans for 10 years.
Since then, the renewal of this restriction of the 2nd Amendment has not been approved by Congress.
Senator Dianne Feinstein said last week that “the president will soon have legislation ‘to lead on’ in the gun control debate.” Feinstein is heading the march against the 2nd Amendment with the introduction of a bill into Congress in January of 2013. This document is just now being drafted with a proposal for the US House of Representatives.
Feinstein explains the bill “will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation, and the possession. Not retroactively, but prospectively. It will ban the same for big clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets. There will be a bill.”
And while alternative media is spinning their wheels on disinformation and unsubstantiated allegations between Lanza and LIBOR, the Obama administration is setting the stage and implementing the necessary legislation to finally destroy our Constitutional right to bear arms and protect ourselves from this tyrannical government.
http://occupycorporatism.(...)nate-libor-hearings/
[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Ali_Kannibali op 20-12-2012 21:50:31 ]
Was deze tweede dader trouwens gemaskerd?quote:
Dat zou kunnen, maar dan moeten die zoons wel zijn ontvoerd en daarna gedwongen om deze aanslagen te plegen.
Misschien hebben ze hem wel meegenomen en binnen doodgeschoten. En die Aurora shooting, die gozer was toch heel verward? Misschien volgegooid met drugs en hem daar achter gelaten nadat een tweede schutter iedereen doodschiet.
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
Ik denk dat mensen die deze bizarre theorie aanhangen een beetje erg wereldvreemd zijn. En hun eigen leventje hiermee wat extra kleur geven.quote:
Denk je nou echt dat mensen die uit zijn op macht en controle daar ook maar iets om geven? Of denk je dat we na WOII plotseling allemaal engeltjes zijn geworden?
Curiosity cultured the cat
Hoge dames vangen veel wind
Whadda ya hear! Whadda ya say!
What is any ocean but a multitude of drops?
Hoge dames vangen veel wind
Whadda ya hear! Whadda ya say!
What is any ocean but a multitude of drops?
Even voor alle duidelijkheid, ik hang deze theorie niet aan. Maar jij doet net of zoiets niet kan gebeuren. Kun je anderen wereldvreemd noemen, maar blijkbaar ben jij dat als je denkt dat mensen hiertoe niet heel bewust in staat zijn.quote:Op donderdag 20 december 2012 21:46 schreef Copycat het volgende:
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Ik denk dat mensen die deze bizarre theorie aanhangen een beetje erg wereldvreemd zijn. En hun eigen leventje hiermee wat extra kleur geven.
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
RM-rf heeft gelijk. Verder:
Benevolente regimes beschermen doorgaans hun burgers door ze 1) niet ongelimiteerd toegang te geven tot wapens, 2) zorg te verlenen aan geesteszieke mensen en die 3) al helemaal niet in de buurt toe te laten van wapens. De VS doet naar ik begrepen heb op alle drie de vlakken niets tot nauwelijks vergeleken bij de rest van de Westerse wereld. Je schetst een compleet spiegelbeeld van de huidige realiteit.quote:
(..) Mijn indruk is dat men de nadruk erg op de emoties legt en de onschuldige kinderslachtoffers van een zieke man met wapens. Wat zijn de potentiele voordelen van een emotionele reactie van het publiek hierop voor een neofascistische overheid?
1. Strictere wapenwetten.
2. Strictere wetten op de behandeling van mensen die als psychiatrisch niet helemaal in orde worden gezien.
3. Volledige wapenonthouding van deze mensen.
Tyrannieke regimes gebruiken doorgaans 2 labels om mensen het zwijgen op te leggen/op te pakken en weg te stoppen: 'terrorist' en 'psychiatrisch gestoord'. Wie kwalificeren in een dergelijk regime als psychiatrisch gestoord en terrorist? Iedereen die zich uitspreekt tegen de regering, die de woorden en daden van de regering in twijfel trekt, en die oproept tot rebellie.
Vanwaar toch altijd meteen de meest bizarre theorieën geloven en bij voorbaat de gewone uitleg niet.quote:
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Even voor alle duidelijkheid, ik hang deze theorie niet aan. Maar jij doet net of zoiets niet kan gebeuren. Kun je anderen wereldvreemd noemen, maar blijkbaar ben jij dat als je denkt dat mensen hiertoe niet heel bewust in staat zijn.
Die theorie klopt toch niet?quote:
De vaders moeten getuigen en de zoons moorden dan mensen uit? Waar slaat het op?
Iedereen moet vooral geloven wat ze willen geloven, maar ik denk inderdaad niet dat er complotten bestaan waarbij bijna dertig kleine kinderen de dood in worden gedreven om iemand anders een lesje te leren.
Daar zijn betere methodes voor, me dunkt. De samenhang is zo far fetched.
Daar zijn betere methodes voor, me dunkt. De samenhang is zo far fetched.
Curiosity cultured the cat
Hoge dames vangen veel wind
Whadda ya hear! Whadda ya say!
What is any ocean but a multitude of drops?
Hoge dames vangen veel wind
Whadda ya hear! Whadda ya say!
What is any ocean but a multitude of drops?
Waarom is het dragen van wapens onderdeel van de grondwet in de VS volgens jou?quote:
RM-rf heeft gelijk. Verder:
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Benevolente regimes beschermen doorgaans hun burgers door ze 1) niet ongelimiteerd toegang te geven tot wapens, 2) zorg te verlenen aan geesteszieke mensen en die 3) al helemaal niet in de buurt toe te laten van wapens. De VS doet naar ik begrepen heb op alle drie de vlakken niets tot nauwelijks vergeleken bij de rest van de Westerse wereld. Je schetst een compleet spiegelbeeld van de huidige realiteit.
9/11 had meer dan 3000 doden. Was dat echt uitgevoerd door moslim terroristen denk je?quote:
Iedereen moet vooral geloven wat ze willen geloven, maar ik denk inderdaad niet dat er complotten bestaan waarbij bijna dertig kleine kinderen de dood in worden gedreven om iemand anders een lesje te leren.
Daar zijn betere methodes voor, me dunkt. De samenhang is zo far fetched.
Hoe zit het met de oorlogen in afganistan, irak, lybie, enzovoorts?
Honderdduizenden doden. Om te beschermen tegen terrorisme denk je?
Dat is een relikwie van dik 2 eeuwen geleden toen daar nog wel goede redenen voor aan te voeren waren, maar in deze moderne tijd geen functie meer heeft.quote:
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Waarom is het dragen van wapens onderdeel van de grondwet in de VS volgens jou?
We hebben het nu volgens mij niet over 911. Of over Afghanistan.
Ik vind die vergelijking ook totaal niet passend.
Ik vind die vergelijking ook totaal niet passend.
Curiosity cultured the cat
Hoge dames vangen veel wind
Whadda ya hear! Whadda ya say!
What is any ocean but a multitude of drops?
Hoge dames vangen veel wind
Whadda ya hear! Whadda ya say!
What is any ocean but a multitude of drops?
Wat waren die goede redenen zoal?quote:
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Dat is een relikwie van dik 2 eeuwen geleden toen daar nog wel goede redenen voor aan te voeren waren, maar in deze moderne tijd geen functie meer heeft.
Het principe dat mensen vermoord worden om bepaalde doelen te bereiken is precies hetzelfde. Of het nu om drugs, olie of controle op burgers gaat.quote:
We hebben het nu volgens mij niet over 911. Of over Afghanistan.
Ik vind die vergelijking ook totaal niet passend.
Laten we de tekst er even bij pakken:quote:
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Wat waren die goede redenen zoal?
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Dat gaat in deze tijd niet meer op natuurlijk. En als je wilt weten waarom niet kan ik je dat vrij eenvoudig uitleggen desgevraagd.
Zet hem op.quote:Op donderdag 20 december 2012 21:59 schreef Terecht het volgende:
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Laten we de tekst er even bij pakken:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Dat gaat in deze tijd niet meer op natuurlijk. En als je wilt weten waarom niet kan ik je dat vrij eenvoudig uitleggen desgevraagd.
Ik begin mijn post met "ik hang deze theorie niet aan"....quote:
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Vanwaar toch altijd meteen de meest bizarre theorieën geloven en bij voorbaat de gewone uitleg niet.
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
Volgens mij werd dat niet bedoeld.quote:
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Die theorie klopt toch niet?
De vaders moeten getuigen en de zoons moorden dan mensen uit? Waar slaat het op?
"An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people."
