Discografiequote:Swans is a band from New York City, New York, United States, active from 1982 to 1997, reformed in 2010, led by singer, songwriter and multi-instrumentalist Michael Gira.
Marginally associated with the no wave scene at first, their original sound was slow and heavy, with live performances that were often so brutal and physical that in a number of instances certain audience members were made ill, police were called and venues were shut down. This early physical sound is possibly best heard on the live album Public Castration Is a Good Idea.
Their initial style shifted a little by the time Swans released seminal twin albums Greed and Holy Money. The music had sped up, at times being even more punishing than their earlier output. Drum machines and samples were slightly more prominent. Michael Gira was joined vocally by Jarboe which gave the band a broader sonic range. Tracks featuring Jarboe were often quieter, even pretty, acting as counterpoint to the more harrowing themes on the albums. Over time, this style would come to dominate the Swans’ output, although they somehow seem to have been able to make a strummed acoustic guitar seem as brutal as their earlier amped-up assaults. The lush instrumentation of their albums from the late 1980s and the 1990’s anticipated the birth of post-rock.
Swans eventually broke up in 1997; Gira went on to release some solo work, later forming the band The Angels of Light, who continue many of the themes and styles found in (later) Swans. Jarboe releases solo work and frequently works with other bands and artists; recently she released an album with Neurosis, a group clearly heavily influenced by Swans.
The influence of Swans upon the music world is profound. Across their 15 years of existence, the various styles they explored gave birth to grindcore (Napalm Death, Nasum) modern “cinematic” post-rock (Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Mono), and atmospheric sludge metal (Isis, Neurosis).
In January 2010, Michael Gira reactivated Swans and released a new album, My Father Will Guide Me Up a Rope to the Sky on September 2010, and the band simultaneously embarked on a world tour scheduled to last eighteen months. The band have been chosen by Portishead to perform at the ATP I’ll Be Your Mirror festivals that they curated in July 2011 at London’s Alexandra Palace and in September 2011 in Asbury Park, New Jersey.
De titeltrack staat al live op youtube en hun laatste livealbum.quote:The noise pioneers Swans will return this summer with a double-album featuring Karen O of Yeah Yeah Yeahs, members of Low and Akron/Family. The Seer is "the complete synthesis of everything I've done and Swans has done", according to frontman Michael Gira.
Swans' last album was released in 2010, after a 14-year hiatus. Since then, the re-formed band have toured the world, playing festivals such as All Tomorrow's Parties. Now, Gira told Spin magazine, the New York group have almost completed a two-hour epic, which features songs as long as 30 minutes.
"I'm a completely wrung-out washcloth of a human being," Gira said, after spending six months in the studio. "It's a really varied record. There are some pretty intense moments, sonically, but there are also some very pastoral and beautiful moments … This is the best lineup Swans has ever had in terms of getting along and really working for the same goal."
Swans' opus will be released on Gira's Young God Records, which introduced the world to Devendra Banhart and Akron/Family. Meanwhile, Gira will undertake a short solo tour in support of an anthology of home recordings. "Playing solo is the challenge of my life," he said, "to learn how to create some kind of undeniable moment with a piece of wood and strings and my voice".
According to rock legend, Swans gigs in the early 80s were so loud they would cause audience members to vomit. "That's a bunch of shit," Gira told the Boston Phoenix in 2010.
Deze man weet waar hij het over heeft.quote:
Hier ook. Moet ooit nog steeds eens die nieuwe luisteren.quote:Op woensdag 14 maart 2012 15:06 schreef bartrid het volgende:
Soundtracks for the blind is ook mijn favoriete album.
I Am The Sun.quote:
Hier ga ik zeker wat studiefinanciering op stukslaan. Dit en The Seer natuurlijk. Ik denk dat de nieuwe studioplaat echt huge gaat worden.quote:Op maandag 23 april 2012 10:39 schreef bartrid het volgende:
Ah tof, geweldige plaat, jammer dat ik de ltd edition niet kon krijgen, maar dit is goed genoeg
Je kan die studiefinanciering nu stukslaan dan:quote:Op maandag 23 april 2012 10:41 schreef On het volgende:
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Hier ga ik zeker wat studiefinanciering op stukslaan. Dit en The Seer natuurlijk. Ik denk dat de nieuwe studioplaat echt huge gaat worden.
Fuck, wat vet.quote:Op donderdag 10 mei 2012 20:15 schreef bartrid het volgende:
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Je kan die studiefinanciering nu stukslaan dan:
http://younggodrecords.co(...)r-head-2xdigipack-cd
Zo, dat valt alles mee ja. Ik ga 'm ook maar even bestellen.quote:Op donderdag 10 mei 2012 22:18 schreef bartrid het volgende:
En $17 voor een dubbel cd met $7 shipping is absoluut niet veel. Besteld dus
quote:Swans dvd trailer for the dvd that comes with the upcoming special edition Swans cd The Seer.
1. No Words No Thoughts 2. Avatar 3. The Apostate 4. Beautiful Child 5. Jim 6. Sex God Secx 7. The Seer/ I Crawled
1hour 40minute running time
Karen O mag van mij wel wegblijven.quote:What's more, it features a host of guest artists including Ben Frost, Karen O, Alan Sparhawk and Mimi Parker of Low, members of Akron/Family, Grasshopper from Mercury Rev and (one imagines this will get many of you in a tizzy), former Swans member Jarboe on backing vocals and "voice collage".
Die is nog wel redelijk aan te horen ja. In de documentaire Kill Yr Idols is ze erg irritant..quote:Op dinsdag 29 mei 2012 16:26 schreef On het volgende:
Op die cd (de openingstrack) van Lynch deed ze het best oke moet ik zeggen.
quote:SWANS - The Seer (YG45) 2xDigipack CD, 3xLP, Digital
(This album is also available as a special edition that includes a Swans
Live DVD (at http://younggodrecords.com and live concerts only; view a
trailer here: https://vimeo.com/42875372)
RELEASE DATE: August 28, 2012
Track Listing: 1.) Lunacy 2.) Mother of the World 3.) The Wolf 4.) The
Seer 5.) The Seer Returns 6.) 93 Ave. B Blues 7.) The Daughter Brings
the Water 8.) Song for a Warrior 9.) Avatar 10.) A Piece of the Sky
11.) The Apostate …Total Running Time: approx. 2 hrs.
Recorded at Studio P4 and Andere Baustelle in Berlin, by Kevin McMahon and
at Marcata Studio, Gardiner, NY, by Kevin McMahon. Additional recording at
Trout Recording, Brooklyn, NY, engineer: Bryce Goggin. Mixed by Kevin
McMahon at Marcata. Produced by Michael Gira.
SWANS: Michael Gira - voice, acoustic guitar, electric guitar, harmonica,
casio, sounds; Norman Westberg – electric guitar, voice; Christoph Hahn –
lap steel guitars; electric guitar, voice; Phil Puleo – drums, percussion,
hammer dulcimer, voice; Thor Harris – drums, percussion, orchestral bells,
hammer dulcimer, handmade violin thing, vibraphone, piano, clarinet,
voice; Christopher Pravdica – bass guitar, voice, incredible handshake.
Honorary Swan: Bill Rieflin – piano, organ, electric guitar, acoustic
guitar, drums, percussion, casio, synthesizer, bass guitar, voice, bird
idea….
SPECIAL GUESTS INCLUDE : Al and Mimi of Low - (co-vocals with MG on
Lunacy); Karen O – (lead vocal on Song for a Warrior); Jarboe –
(background vocals on Piece of the Sky and The Seer Returns); Akron/Family
– (background vocals on Piece of the Sky)… (many more guests – see full
credits below)
NOTE FROM MICHAEL GIRA:
“The Seer took 30 years to make. It’s the culmination of every previous
Swans album as well as any other music I’ve ever made, been involved in or
imagined. But it’s unfinished, like the songs themselves. It’s one frame
in a reel. The frames blur, blend and will eventually fade.
The songs began on an acoustic guitar, then were fleshed out with
(invaluable) help from my friends, then were further tortured and seduced
in rehearsals, live and in the studio, and now they await further
cannibalism and force-feeding as we prepare to perform some of them live,
at which point they’ll mutate further, endlessly, or perhaps be discarded
for a while.
Despite what you might have heard or presumed, my quest is to spread light
and joy through the world. My friends in Swans are all stellar men.
Without them I’m a kitten, an infant. Our goal is the same: ecstasy! “
HOW THE SONGS CAME TO BE:
The songs The Seer, Ave. B Blues, Avatar, and The Apostate were developed
organically as a group in rehearsals and on tour. They morphed constantly
throughout the last series of Swans tours, and were captured and lovingly
adorned in the studio. The remaining songs on the album were developed
from the ground up in the studio with the participation and input of all
the contributing musicians, guided by an invisible hand…
SWANS BEGIN ANOTHER ENDLESS TOUR COMMENCING AUGUST 2012. FOR FURTHER INFO
REGARDING TOUR DATES CONTACT HOWARD WUELFING for U.S. publicity
howlingwuelf@aol.com or TODD COTE for booking todd@leafygreen.com or
NITA KEELER for publicity in the U.K. nita@goldstarpr.com
FULL CREDITS:
SWANS: Michael Gira - voice, acoustic guitar, electric guitar, harmonica,
casio, sounds; Norman Westberg – electric guitar, voice; Christoph Hahn –
lap steel guitars; electric guitar, voice; Phil Puleo – drums, percussion,
hammer dulcimer, voice; Thor Harris – drums, percussion, orchestral bells,
hammer dulcimer, handmade violin thing, vibraphone, piano, clarinet,
voice; Christopher Pravdica – bass guitar, voice, incredible handshake.
Honorary Swan: Bill Rieflin – piano, organ, electric guitar, acoustic
guitar, drums, percussion, casio, synthesizer, bass guitar, voice, bird
idea…. SPECIAL GUESTS: Karen O – lead vocal on Song for a Warrior (Karen
appears courtesy Interscope Records); Al and Mimi of Low – co-vocals on
Lunacy; Jarboe – backing vocals and voice collage on Piece of the Sky and
backing vocals on The Seer Returns; Seth Olinsky, Miles Seaton, Dana
Janssen (Akron/Family) – backing vocals on Piece of the Sky; Caleb
Mulkerin and Colleen Kinsella of Big Blood – accordion, vocals, dulcimer,
guitar, piano and assorted other instruments on the Seer Returns; Sean
Mackowiak (the grasshopper) – acoustic and electric mandolins, clarinet,
various songs; Ben Frost – fire sounds (acoustic and synthetic) on Piece
of the Sky; Iain Graham – bagpipes on The Seer ; Bruce Lamont – horns on
The Seer; Bob Rutman – steel cello on The Seer; Cassis Staudt – accordion
various songs; Eszter Balint – violin, various songs; Jane Scarpatoni –
cello various songs; Kevin McMahon – additional drums on the Seer Returns,
electric guitar, sounds on various songs; Bryce Goggin – piano on Song for
a Warrior ; Stefan Rocke – contra bassoon on the Seer…
Produced by Michael Gira. Recorded at Studio P4 and Andere Baustelle in
Berlin, by Kevin McMahon, assistants Marco and Boris, and at Marcata
Studio, Gardiner, NY, by Kevin McMahon. Additional recording at Trout
Recording, Brooklyn, NY, engineer: Bryce Goggin, assistant: Adam Sachs.
Mixed by Kevin McMahon at Marcata. Mastered by Doug Henderson at
Micro-Moose Berlin. Pre-mastering by Jamal Ruhe at West Westside Music…
Artwork: Paintings and Swans photo portraits by Simon Henwood. Art
direction and design: M.Gira. Layout by Earl Kuck at Revolver. Photo
adjustments by David Clark Perry… This album is also available as a
special edition that includes a Swans Live DVD (at younggodrecords.com
<http> and live concerts). DVD Credits: Directed,
filmed and produced by Simon Henwood and Marco Porsia. Edited by Marco
Porsia. Additional cameras: Rodney Ascher, Dan Knight, Phi Tidy,
Alessandra Romeo.
quote:Swans komt dit jaar voor twee concerten naar Nederland. De band staat op dinsdag 20 november in Doornroosje te Nijmegen en een dag later in het Patronaat te Haarlem.
Kaarten voor de optredens kosten 20 euro. De voorverkoop loopt via de betreffende podia.
quote:"Wotgodforgot and Fat Out Til You Pass Out are beyond ecstatic to announce that the legendary SWANS will be playing at Sound Control Manchester as part of their Global 30th Anniversary tour - including an exclusive and punishing 3 hour plus set of material from their expansive three decade career."
***Please note early doors to this show due to commitments of the venue, this is subject to change and we will inform customers of any changes.***
quote:
for some reason we are going to do this song on upcoming tours. we're rehearsing it, changing it (of course), and it's sounding good... also new material from new album will be played, as well as new as yet unrecorded material... no other old swans songs except coward.
Gedaan! De 2xCD + DVD versie. .quote:Op dinsdag 31 juli 2012 21:56 schreef bartrid het volgende:
The Seer is nu te pre-orderen:
http://younggodrecords.com/658457004524-the-seer-cd
Ik ook, redelijke prijs ($30 geloof ik inclusief shipping). Ik heb de gelekte versie al beluisterd en het zou best wel eens plaat van het jaar kunnen worden voor mij.quote:
Ja ik heb kaartjes voor Manchester gekocht. Weekendje pub crawlen en naar Swans. Erg veel zin in.quote:Op dinsdag 21 augustus 2012 18:49 schreef emokid het volgende:
Heb een kaartje gekocht voor Haarlem. Wordt mijn derde keer Swans.. vreselijk veel zin in. Sir Richard Bishop ben ik ook benieuwd naar.
in een hondquote:Op dinsdag 28 augustus 2012 15:19 schreef Gehenna het volgende:
The Seer besteld op 3LP, al een tijdje op mijn iPod geluisterd, behoorlijk onder de indruk.
ben benieuwd hoe ze die 3 platen verpakt hebben
Laatste keer dat ik ze zag (afgelopen voorjaar) was de helft materiaal dat nog niet is uitgebracht.quote:Op donderdag 20 juni 2013 14:18 schreef Gehenna het volgende:
Ik verwacht wel dat ze daar flink wat van spelen dit weekend
(of ze moeten stiekum al weer bezig zijn met het volgende hoofdstuk)
Morgen een nieuw (live) album uit dusquote:Swans are now residing outside el paso, texas, working on the new studio album. the 2xcd, handmade, limited edition, live album NOT HERE / NOT NOW, will be available monday, october 14. aside from being, in itself, a warm and soothing wind of narcotic bliss, it also serves as a fundraising effort in support of the months of happiness-through-toil that lie ahead.
Hier wat meer info: http://shop.younggodrecords.com/not-here-not-now-handmade-releasequote:Op zondag 13 oktober 2013 19:50 schreef Gehenna het volgende:
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Morgen een nieuw (live) album uit dus
Zullen we met zijn allen inleggen om hem Fok te laten zingen?quote:7. OPTION 3, 4, 5, 6, plus, AND AGAIN, YES THIS IS REAL: m.gira will record and send to customer a video of a simple, short, original song, acoustic guitar and voice, with customers’ name in the song, praising the customer, his or her ancestors, thoughts, dreams, and future or past lives, forever . This video will be made by m.gira, sitting at his desk, at home, singing directly to you, and you only. - $500
Voor iets meer krijg je ook het studio album, vind dertig dollar per album best oke als je beseft hoe mooi de edities vaak zijn en dat dertig dollar echt vier euro is ofzo.quote:Op dinsdag 15 oktober 2013 12:02 schreef Gehenna het volgende:
$40 voor live album ik pas even en wacht op het volgende studio album denk ik...
ja klopt, maar werkloos op het momentquote:Op dinsdag 15 oktober 2013 12:26 schreef On het volgende:
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Voor iets meer krijg je ook het studio album, vind dertig dollar per album best oke als je beseft hoe mooi de edities vaak zijn en dat dertig dollar echt vier euro is ofzo.
quote:Op maandag 5 mei 2014 14:17 schreef bartrid het volgende:
http://www.npr.org/2014/0(...)ten-swans-to-be-kind
Nieuwe album.
Interessant stukje tekst, thanksquote:Op donderdag 8 mei 2014 13:16 schreef On het volgende:
Hier nog een interview met Gira door The Quietus.
http://thequietus.com/art(...)to-be-kind-interview
Prachtige tape, eerste release op het labeltje van Thruston Moore(estatic peace) wat later nog veel meer moois op de wereld zal los laten. De Lydia Lunch kant is ook geweldig.quote:
Vandaar dat ik het weet, ga toch geen 17 minuten naar die gast kijkenquote:Op donderdag 22 mei 2014 12:56 schreef On het volgende:
Cal verklapte het al van tevoren. Snap niet waarom Anthony hem nog als huisgenoot heeft.
Klinkt fantastisch. En, waren ze alweer nieuw werk aan het spelen van de volgende plaat?quote:Op vrijdag 30 mei 2014 00:19 schreef bartrid het volgende:
Godverdomme wat was dat goed. Klein zaaltje, totaal niet uitverkocht maar het voordeel was geen hipsters. Hard, zuiver en lang, bijna 3 uur.
Nog gefeliciteerd danquote:Op vrijdag 30 mei 2014 11:56 schreef On het volgende:
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Btw: Ik heb hem gekregen hoor, voor mijn verjaardag.
Thanks. En raar, waar heb je hem besteld? Die van mij kwam gewoon van de Velvet, was de 16e al binnen.quote:Op vrijdag 30 mei 2014 12:19 schreef Gehenna het volgende:
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Nog gefeliciteerd dan
Die van mij staat al een tijdje in bestelling, het is wachten op een nalevering
Mooi zo, ik heb mijn dubble gelukkig aan een bekende kunnen verkopenquote:Op vrijdag 30 mei 2014 11:56 schreef On het volgende:
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Klinkt fantastisch. En, waren ze alweer nieuw werk aan het spelen van de volgende plaat?
Btw: Ik heb hem gekregen hoor, voor mijn verjaardag.
Ik vond het vorig jaar grappig hoe een opgewonden Gira druk begon te wijzen naar een bandlid. Die haalde vervolgens snel een fluitje tevoorschijn en begon er op te blazen, terwijl dat geluid echt direct verloren ging in die zee van feedback.quote:Op vrijdag 30 mei 2014 12:54 schreef bartrid het volgende:
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Mooi zo, ik heb mijn dubble gelukkig aan een bekende kunnen verkopen
Qua materiaal weet ik niet meer wat ze speelden maar wat een groove in sommige nummers en het blijft geweldig om Gira z'n band te zien dirigeren.
quote:Op vrijdag 30 mei 2014 12:58 schreef On het volgende:
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Ik vond het vorig jaar grappig hoe een opgewonden Gira druk begon te wijzen naar een bandlid. Die haalde vervolgens snel een fluitje tevoorschijn en begon er op te blazen, terwijl dat geluid echt direct verloren ging in die zee van feedback.
bij kroese-online. Ik had geen pre-order, maar 'm de dag dat hij uitkwam besteld.quote:Op vrijdag 30 mei 2014 12:35 schreef On het volgende:
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Thanks. En raar, waar heb je hem besteld? Die van mij kwam gewoon van de Velvet, was de 16e al binnen.
Misschien moest Gira nog wat kartonnen dozen stelen bij de super om de hoes van te maken.quote:Op vrijdag 30 mei 2014 13:18 schreef Gehenna het volgende:
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bij kroese-online. Ik had geen pre-order, maar 'm de dag dat hij uitkwam besteld.
quote:Just got home comatose after finishing up the final leg of our 14 month tour for Swans To Be Kind album. We have come to your town, though it's doubtful we have partied down. It has been a privilege to be inside the sound that on some nights seems to create itself of its own accord, and it's gratifying that many of you have conveyed to us that it's been a positive experience for you too... Next step: Sept 1 we commence a new Swans album. This will be the final Swans album (and subsequent tour) for this version / iteration of Swans. Not really sure what the next step will be after that, but that's perhaps a good thing... We'll be making a live album/fundraiser (called The Gate) soon, in order to raise the necessary - somewhat daunting - capital for the studio album, which is bound to be an insatiable beast... more soon, Thanks and Love! - Michael Gira
hihiquote:as in OPTION 4, 5, 6, plus, AND YES THIS IS REAL: send us a simple self portrait using your cell phone or computer photo device (see example below) and m.gira will draw a portrait of you using your photo as a guide. Best efforts will be made at obtaining a likeness but not guaranteed! Style will be expressive and whimsical and drawing will be peppered with praises for your virtues and presumptive status amongst the Gods… signed, dated and dedicated to you by m.gira - $500
quote:Swans continue their remastered reissues series on Young God Records in North America and Mute in other territories with the release of White Light from the Mouth of Infinity and Love of Life on December 4, 2015.
The two albums will be initially released as a limited vinyl box set, presented in the original restored artwork, which includes paintings by Deryk Thomas. The 2500 micron black lined box – with original logo in silver foil block in black paper – will also include 2 rare posters, a CD of outtakes, rarities, contemporaneous live recordings and a download code for both albums.
In addition, White Light from the Mouth of Infinity and Love of Life will be available as a 3xCD set (which will include the bonus disc), as well as individual albums on vinyl and digitally.
White Light from the Mouth of Infinity, Swans’ seventh studio album originally released in 1991, is considered the starting point for the second section of Swans’ inimitable history. This will be the first time White Light from the Mouth of Infinity has been available on vinyl since its original release on Young God Records in 1991. The vinyl issue will include the track ‘Blind’, not included in the original release.
Micheal Gira:quote:I will give you some history about why I am sharing the story about Thomas Sayers Ellis's abusive behavior now. I didn't always stand up for myself. Rape is a loaded word. No man wants to be a rapist. It implies cowardice as well as violence. It undermines the sexual power and magnetism that every man would like to have. No woman wants to be known as a rape victim, either. I want to be known for my strength, intelligence, and talent. Not known as a victim. My story with Michael Gira is an absolute tragedy that I have kept secret for too long. I am only speaking of it now because after being accused of "lynching" Thomas, I cannot ethically keep Michael's secret any longer. He's a white guy, and his crime was far worse than what Thomas did to me or Margaret.
Michael Gira and I had a beautiful, fruitful collaboration on my album Parplar. He was my record label boss and producer. He was my beloved, trusted mentor, really my guru. I lived in his house with him and his wife Siobhan and I babysat their daughter frequently in between working on new songs and incorporating Michael's valuable input. I loved him more than I have loved just about anyone, but I did not want to have sex with him, and I made that very clear over and over. In the spring of 2008, on the night that we finished recording Parplar at Trout Recordings with Bryce Goggin, we went out to eat at a steakhouse. My friend Johnny Dido was our waiter. We were with Michael's friends and they were drinking heavily and encouraging me to keep up with them. I'm a pretty lightweight drinker. At the end of the night it became obvious that I was too drunk to drive home, too drunk to even walk straight. Michael invited me to stay with his friends. They said they had a bed for me and that Michael would sleep on the floor. I trusted them and agreed.
At the apartment of Michael's friends, I crawled into bed without changing my clothes or brushing my teeth. I just passed out. A little later Michael woke me up coughing. He had bad asthma, and sleeping on the floor in the dust was aggravating it. I told him, slurred, half asleep, that he could sleep in the bed, just not to touch me. A little bit later I woke up with his penis inside me, no condom. As I opened my eyes, he said, "Uh, this doesn't feel right." and he pulled out.
The next morning, Michael begged me not to tell his wife about what happened. I drove home, numb. Then I took my bike around the block and got hit by a car, injuring my hip. That day I wrote one of my best songs, "The Butcher, or Without a Body or a Numb and Useless Mind." It was the last song I would be able to write for a few years. I spent the next 6 months in a suicidal depression. Michael would call frequently to talk about the progress on my record and to talk dirty to me. He would tell me he loved me and that he would leave his wife for me. I would refuse to talk dirty to him and try to bring the conversation back to business. When we met, the interactions were often sexually charged and I would squirm out of them as best I could. We never had sex again although he tried over and over, making me absolutely miserable. Mastering the record with Fred Kevorkian was particularly difficult. Michael took the opportunity to kiss me in the elevator, and I complied because I really, really, really wanted to be a successful musician. He'd often say to me, "I'm gonna make you a star, Larkin. You can trust me."
I stuck with this pattern for a long time, through my record release and the tours (with Michael!!) supporting it, but when it came time to write a new record, I found my creativity was totally blocked. I told Michael that he had had sex with me against my will and that I didn't feel safe with him any more. He then dropped me from Young God Records.
Many people have assumed, over the years, that Michael and I had a love affair, and in a way, for a time, maybe we did. But I never consented to having sex with him. I wouldn't have wanted to ruin such an important opportunity that way. Technically, he raped me. It took me a long time to admit that to myself. Years. Michael Gira, my producer, raped me and dumped me from his label when I confronted him about it, needing to feel safe.
What happened was awful, but as a prison abolitionist, an anarchist, and a nice person I didn't want to destroy his whole life with a rape charge. Looking back, he didn't think twice about destroying mine.
Sending my love to #Kesha I know how you feel. At least I got out of my record deal, though I was never offered another one after that.
Jennifer Gira (vrouw van):quote:the horrible and untrue accusations from larkin grimm:
I am completely shocked myself. This is a slanderous lie. I will respond vigorously to defend my name against this horrible slur. I trust in the intelligence of those who have followed my work and respect me as a person, to know this is NOT the person I am. The rumor mill/"confessional" Facebook post travels like fire- but this one is lies. More soon. This is an utter nightmare. thank you for your support. please spread the word. this is lies!
The shit has hit the fanquote:I was enjoying not being on FB precisely for the social media nightmare(s) I must rejoin to address now, due to a former musical "protege" on my husband Michael Gira's record label has accused him of being a rapist......in 2008. As you may know, Michael dropped Larkin, and she has been jilted about it ever since. Larkin may know in the past, Michael has shuddered and simply deleted her harassing emails/texts, rambling obsessive tomes, declarations of unrequited love, hate speech, and threats to him. but, guess what sweetheart!- his wife is well aware----and his wife, is rather analytical, organized, -and doesn't put up with any bullshit. I have PROOF, in Larkin's own hand, that her allegations of Michael raping her *did not happen.* I REPEAT It is false. (Larkin-you should have been much more careful whom you emailed/messaged/purged/"reached out" to in "heartfelt" way, etc etc, or in letting yourself use a computer, during what seems to have been from the illiad of messages sent to my husband that are c-r-a-z-y -suffering from a manic/bipolar or chemical relapse episode)That is unfortunate-for you. I have nothing but empathy for a person who has experienced assault. After all, *I* survived an extremely violent rape/kidnap attempt, which resulted in, (through my fighting hand to hand combat) in great injury to myself-but it saved my life. My entire life was affected. I was diagnosed with severe PTSD, panic disorder, and often have difficulty walking to my car in the Target parking lot after dark, sometimes bursting into tears. Do I like sharing such info on the internet? NO, but I feel at this juncture, I have no choice. I didn't have any "artist love affair" (puh-leeze) -it was a complete stranger. Nevertheless, it causes me such pain-daily, there is a song on a new Swans album, Michael wrote for me- (that I sing myself) I have not even listened to the song more than once since its recording, It upsets me so much to even hear myself sing it. This was, a loving attempt from Michael Gira to help me heal from such a horrible event. I take great insult in you accusing my husband of something like I went through. (And I have the police report, injury records, doctors, therapies, witnesses, etc) This isn't meant to be tit for tat, but, I hate liars. I hope people do share this post. -and I hope Larkin sees it, and I hope she is wrecked with nerves, because I repeat, I have *PROOF in her own hand* that what she wrote today is false about my husband. I am currently being muzzled (by atttorneys, managers, labels, and the like) but rest assured, the truth will come out. Larkin, you will publicly apologize, and face serious consequences. Please share. P.S anyone who bashed my husband or his music, when they see the proof- is going to feel like a complete fool.I hope you feel shame, and think about your actions. I am not negating a negative experience by a woman or man in a sexual context, or god forbid an assault on anyone, but it is SCARY AS HELL, that some mentally unbalanced (and admittedly so, *you'll see that too, once I release what I have*) can just post on Facebook, and the entire internet music press runs the story as "fact" -Any musician or artist in the public eye (or not, really this concerns everyone) should be wary, VERY WARY p.s. "the boy who cried wolf" is a great allegory for the starfucker-in the end- nobody listened to either of them howl.
Las het ook toen ik wakker werd vanmorgen, apart verhaal weer.quote:Op vrijdag 26 februari 2016 09:58 schreef Gehenna het volgende:
Larkin Grimm:
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Micheal Gira:
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Jennifer Gira (vrouw van):
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The shit has hit the fan
Jup, inderdaad. De neutraliteit in de reacties is weer ver te zoeken trouwensquote:Op vrijdag 26 februari 2016 10:18 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:
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Las het ook toen ik wakker werd vanmorgen, apart verhaal weer.
Grimm:quote:Eight years ago, while I was still married to my first wife, Larkin Grimm and I headed towards a consensual romantic moment that fortunately was not consummated. As she wrote in her recent social media postings about that night, I said to her, "this doesn't feel right," and abruptly but completely our only intimate encounter ended. It was an awkward mistake.
Larkin may regret, as I certainly do, that the ill-advised tryst went even that far, but now, as then, I hold her in high esteem for her music and her courage as an artist.
I long ago apologized to my wife and family and told them the truth about this incident. My hope is that Larkin finds peace with the demons that have been darkening her soul since long before she and I ever met.
ah de 'slanderous lie' blijkt toch niet zo gelogen dus..quote:This is a perfect example of why we need to have education about consent. In a gentlemanly move he admits the act happened but cannot conceive of himself as a rapist. Thank you Michael Gira for your honesty. This is your truth as you remember it. Unfortunately, this was still rape. I said no to you many times before that day, begged you not to interfere with me sexually, even made it a part of a verbal agreement we had when I signed a contract with you. I asked you to promise that you would never have sex with me. You assured me that I could trust you. That is about as clear a NO as I could ever cry. I asked for this because I had had other experiences in my music career and I KNEW.
That night I was far too intoxicated to give you consent for any sexual act. The psychological effects of this betrayal were devastating. Even worse, when I finally confronted you about what you had done, you terminated my relationship with Young God Records, damaging my career and leading people to believe there was something wrong with me or my music.
In the end, this is about business. Art is my career. I have worked long and hard for this career, making incredible sacrifices along the way to continue to make music. The fact that a man in power can throw a women's life and work away like they are garbage, simply because she won't sleep with him, is an immoral injustice that happens to many, many women in music. I won't stand for it and neither should you.
The "Demons darkening my soul" are the men like you who interfere with my ability to do my work as a musician. This is a job I am good at. All I want is to be left in peace while I am working.
quote:Clearly Larkin Grimm is not well. Mental illness does not equate with dishonesty. However, in Grimm’s case, both are active to the detriment of my colleague and former life partner, Thomas Ellis’s reputation and career. I have worked with Thomas for years now, and though our personal relationship did not work, I know him well and deeply and Grimm’s public depictions of him are errant and libelius. I continue to work with Thomas professionally and I stand with him in this matter. Larkin Grimm has admitted in writing that, when off her medication, she lacks compassion and enjoys playing tricks on people. During her short tenure with Heroes Are Gang Leaders, she wove a tapestry of lies about her past marriage, false suicide attempts, and a number of other stories that she carefully tailored to the particular listener in order to garner their sympathy and rely on their decency to keep her confidences private. As her statements became bolder and more difficult to fathom, members of HAGL began discussing them and quickly discovered that Larkin Grimm is a very calculating liar. When she feared her place in the band was in jeopardy, she fabricated sexual harassment allegations against the main three band members who saw through her lies and wanted her out. Later she addressed the entire group, promising no more lies and that she was trying to be a better person--that she felt that the person she was when she was playing was the better person that she strived to be in life. Unfortunately, Grimm has not been successful in that aim. She went on to publically conflate an unfortunate incident within my then broken relationship with Thomas Ellis--an incident she uses lies to describe--with a rape allegation she made against producer Michael Gira from 2008, two completely unrelated stories beyond Grimm’s opportunistic linking in order to publicise her new album.
-Margaret Morris of Heroes Are Gang Leaders
Wat is daar de bron van?quote:
Ja dat postte Swans op Facebook.quote:Op vrijdag 4 maart 2016 10:01 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:
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FB dus:
https://www.facebook.com/(...)59301214322/?fref=ts
Woohooquote:Op woensdag 6 april 2016 16:26 schreef bartrid het volgende:
Nieuwe plaat en tour:
Swans have announced details of their new album 'The Glowing Man' (the last release of their current incarnation) out on Friday, 17th June, and will follow the album with an extensive worldwide tour, which sees them return to the UK in the autumn.
Kaartjes vrijdag in de voorverkoop
Ik ga eens even zoeken danquote:Op woensdag 8 juni 2016 20:40 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:
Een deel is gelekt. Heb al een paar nummers gehoord. Godsamme
Ik was helemaal vergeten dat ik hem al ge-preordered had, gelukkig wist Amazon het nogquote:
En ik had hem gewoon ook via Swans zelf besteld want gisteren was ie binnen..Vanavond maar eens luisteren.quote:Op donderdag 9 juni 2016 09:57 schreef bartrid het volgende:
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Ik was helemaal vergeten dat ik hem al ge-preordered had, gelukkig wist Amazon het nog
Ik moet nog 2 dagen wachtenquote:Op woensdag 15 juni 2016 08:10 schreef bartrid het volgende:
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En ik had hem gewoon ook via Swans zelf besteld want gisteren was ie binnen..Vanavond maar eens luisteren.
Ah ik hoor het al, dikke kans op AOTY dus weerquote:
quote:Marco Porsia has been following Swans around on tour and in studio for the past 6 years, filming and documenting everything. He's been given access to the extensive Swans video and image archives (dating back to 1983) and he's now compiling everything and making a documentary feature about Swans. He's also filmed numerous interviews with various people of interest about the band. He's launched a Kickstarter page to help usher him on his way to completing the film. He's a good soul and doing good work. If you've seen the companion DVDs that have accompanied the recent releases you've experienced the high quality of the sound and images... Much Love! MG
https://www.kickstarter.c(...)ntary-on-the-band-sw
Ik las het net pas, en heb gebackedquote:
The Swansquote:
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Die komt net langs op mijn discover weekly playlist. Niet bijzonder, wel erg fijn .quote:Op vrijdag 19 mei 2017 14:23 schreef Gehenna het volgende:
Ah Thor Harris en Norman Westberg doen ook veelvuldig mee op het laatste album van Lawrence English. Beetje lo-fi ambient/drone. Niet heel bijzonder, maar wel erg fijne textures
https://open.spotify.com/album/4y372QHtXp8aJCV7M4YkBv
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de kaarten zijn al binnen, leuk festival altijdquote:Op maandag 27 november 2017 20:53 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:
http://www.bandsintown.co(...)=Swans&came_from=127
Inderdaadquote:Op dinsdag 28 november 2017 07:54 schreef bartrid het volgende:
Dat is dus Michael Gira solo want de huidige lineup heeft pas de allerlaatste concerten gedaan.
https://www.grauzonefesti(...)-next-phase-of-swans
Die staan/staat ook op grauzone. Maar dat is dus ook Richard H. Kirk solo.quote:Op dinsdag 28 november 2017 12:04 schreef bartrid het volgende:
Lichtelijk offtopic maar ik zou Cabaret Voltaire graag eens live willen zien....
Ja ik dacht die invloeden ook wel te horen, ondanks dat ze 3 van de 5 nummers op dat album op die tour al speelde natuurlijk.quote:Op maandag 5 maart 2018 03:33 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:
Wat offtopic, maar soit, het nieuwe album van Anna von Hausswolff is er, en hij is heerlijk. De invloed van haar tour samen met Swans is goed te horen:
Ja zat er ook met smart op te wachten, maar maakt alle verwachtingen waar. Eerste plaat dit jaar waar ik echt van onder de indruk benquote:
Ja same here, AOTY materiaal.quote:Op maandag 5 maart 2018 21:12 schreef Gehenna het volgende:
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Ja zat er ook met smart op te wachten, maar maakt alle verwachtingen waar. Eerste plaat dit jaar waar ik echt van onder de indruk ben
quote:Mar 8
Thu
BITTERZOET
Amsterdam, North Holland, Netherlands
Mar 9
EKKO
Utrecht, The Netherlands, Netherlands
Mar 10
Paard
The Hague, South Holland, Netherlands
quote:Swans' Die Tur Ist Zu (German for The Door Is Closed) was initially released in 1996 as a prelude to the (then) final Swans album Soundtracks for the Blind. It was only available in Germany and was only released on CD. It has been long out of print. It shares some material w the much longer Soundtracks, but on this record I sing in German. It has never before appeared on vinyl. This release now is a 2xVinyl release, with one of the 4 sides being an etching I designed. I am pleased to throw it out into the hungry, chomping mouth of Record Store Day - Michael Gira / Swans
En die is ook te vinden in de re-release van Soundtracks for the blind die ik een tijdje geleden binnenkreeg. Bizar om hem in het Duits te horen zingen, maar verder wel weer prima.quote:
persoonlijk een beetje te gek om aan te schaffen, maar erg goed nieuws dat er een nieuwe plaat in de pijpleiding zitquote:Op woensdag 27 februari 2019 21:17 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:
https://younggodrecords.c(...)roducts/what-is-this
Ja met de shipping costs die ik gezien heb vanuit de US naar Europa betaal je al bijna de dubbele prijs...Hopelijk komt er nog een gewonere release.quote:Op donderdag 28 februari 2019 08:50 schreef Gehenna het volgende:
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persoonlijk een beetje te gek om aan te schaffen, maar erg goed nieuws dat er een nieuwe plaat in de pijpleiding zit
Verrassende keuze idd net als dat Ben Frost ook ineens mee gaat doenquote:Op donderdag 17 oktober 2019 11:48 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:
Voor het eerst geen Norman Westberg?
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