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0s.gif Op woensdag 14 september 2011 10:46 schreef mouzzer het volgende:

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Die zogenaamde brandweerauto was gewoon het derde remlicht van de BMW die er voor reed, was in 2006 al aangetoond :) En 5 tot 10 minuten nodig voor 4 auto's door een toll poort te gaan realistic noemen voor een toll station waar men o.a. ezpass system heeft. Kom op zeg je kan zelf toch ook wel inzien dat zo'n claim onzin is.
Ik heb het niet kunnen checken omdat de betreffende frames ontbreken. Ik vraag me af waarom nu juist die frames ontbreken en deze impact nooit meer op TV te zien is geweest. Ik kan me niet herinneren dat ik deze beelden op TV heb gezien namelijk. Men gebruikt meestal het CNN Hezarkhani filmpje.

Verder schrijft hij:

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... even though traffic is at a standstill...
Maar goed, dat heb ik dus niet kunnen checken, aangezien ik de betreffende frames niet gezien heb.
  woensdag 14 september 2011 @ 13:24:58 #152
52357 Lambiekje
Everything is upside down
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2s.gif Op woensdag 14 september 2011 10:56 schreef Bill_E het volgende:
Ik had toch nog een leuke gevonden : 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory!
Het is inderdaad een kort maar krachtig filmpje :0
Everything is backwards, everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, psychiatrists destroy minds, scientists destroy truth, media destroys information, religions destroy spirituality and governments destroy freedom.
  woensdag 14 september 2011 @ 13:26:22 #153
52357 Lambiekje
Everything is upside down
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 13 september 2011 21:20 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:

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Onzin. Dat laten ze in die BBC docu heel duidelijk zien. Er zat een flink verschil tussen de ineenstorting van toren 1 en 2.
Maar niet tot hoe een instorting (zónder explosieven) hoort te gaan. Nagonoeg op dezelfde wijze zijn zijn elkaar geëxplodeerd.
Everything is backwards, everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, psychiatrists destroy minds, scientists destroy truth, media destroys information, religions destroy spirituality and governments destroy freedom.
  woensdag 14 september 2011 @ 13:30:33 #154
47122 ATuin-hek
theguyver's sidekick!
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0s.gif Op woensdag 14 september 2011 13:26 schreef Lambiekje het volgende:

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Maar niet tot hoe een instorting (zónder explosieven) hoort te gaan. Nagonoeg op dezelfde wijze zijn zijn elkaar geëxplodeerd.
Kijk die docu nou eerst maar, voor je domme dingen gaat schrijven ;)
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
  woensdag 14 september 2011 @ 14:31:49 #155
52357 Lambiekje
Everything is upside down
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0s.gif Op woensdag 14 september 2011 13:30 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:

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Kijk die docu nou eerst maar, voor je domme dingen gaat schrijven ;)
Die BBC docu?

Wat zijn dan punten volgens jouw waar ik op moet letten.?
Everything is backwards, everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, psychiatrists destroy minds, scientists destroy truth, media destroys information, religions destroy spirituality and governments destroy freedom.
  woensdag 14 september 2011 @ 14:36:10 #156
47122 ATuin-hek
theguyver's sidekick!
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0s.gif Op woensdag 14 september 2011 14:31 schreef Lambiekje het volgende:

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Die BBC docu?

Wat zijn dan punten volgens jouw waar ik op moet letten.?
Kern eerst of buitenkant eerst.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
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People just simply assume that most of the pictures taken on 9/11 were taken by amateurs and your average man in the streets. You will find that those pictures are hard to find. It turns out most of the images that we've seen on TV, the newspapers and the ones posted on the Internet after the attack were taken by professionals. Okay, so what?

In NYC, I would expect a fair number of professional photographers to show up at the scene of such a major disaster but a lot of them seem to have been in key positions from the start of the attack. In order to see if my theory is correct, the first thing to do is to try to identify all of the photographers and who they work for. Magnum Photographers is a name that comes up a lot. Let's see if any other patterns emerge?

SEAN ADAIR
Founder of ADAIR film & Video productions. Consultant in digital media and visual effects.


quote:
Sean Adair has been shooting film and video for over 15 years, and still photography for over 25 years. Born in NYC, educated in New Zealand, and with travel to over 40 countries under his belt, he brings a wealth of experience to every shoot. Producing educational material, documentary, and art films, he is also a hands on director, editor and cinematographer.

His camerawork can be seen in the "Beef" video series, 16mm feature release documentary “Rhyme and Reason”, NBC’s Emmy award winning special “Mystery of the Sphinx”, and hundreds of commercials, documentaries and corporate videos.

Sean's art and journalistic photography have been published internationally, and he also serves as a consultant for many firms in the arcane arts of developing interactive digital media and visual effects.

Source: http://www.adairproductions.com/bio.html
BILL BIGGART
A photographer, who had worked for agencies like Reuters, Agence France Press, Sipa Press, Impact Visuals.



quote:
Larger than life

The path that eventually led Bill to the World Trade Center the morning of 9/11 took him through Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Berlin, and deep into the heart of racism in his own country. He never stopped moving until the end.

As a spot news photographer, Bill chose to cover stories that most interested him, not the ones an editor selected. He focused on presenting the minority side – the Palestinians in the Middle East, the Catholic/IRA “troubles” in Ireland, and the issues of natives, blacks and gays in America.

Bill was born in Berlin in 1947, the pacifist son of a conservative Army officer. Raised in a rambunctious family of 12 children, Bill grew up learning to express his opinion - loudly and demonstrably if needed. Politics was often a heated topic of conversation and it affected his life at an early age. His family was forced to leave Berlin on one of the last trains before the Berlin Wall was erected.

In New York, Bill worked as a commercial photographer, while also pursuing his passion for photojournalism. In 1973, he went to Wounded Knee to cover the American Indian protest movement. He somehow got past the FBI perimeter and was captured by the besieged protestors who assumed he was a federal agent. His gift for gab got him released, but some of his film was confiscated.

In 1985, Bill received his first press card and immediately closed his studio. He left commercial photography behind and entered the world of black and white photojournalism. He hated color and only came back to it when he grudgingly accepted digital photography methods.

Over the years following, Bill photographed racism in New York, the KKK in the South, the Palestinian uprising and refugee camps in Israel, the life of people in Northern Ireland, and the fall of the Berlin Wall. He was one of the first members of a cooperative photo agency, Impact Visuals, which was devoted to issues of social change and alternative news.

Aside from photography, Bill loved gardening, planting street trees in New York, sailing his boat, listening to Yankee games with his sons, and living in the center of what he considered the greatest city on earth. He died there at the age of 54. A life fully, fiercely and passionately lived.

Bill is survived by his wife, Wendy Doremus, and three children – Bill Jr., Kate and Peter

Source: http://www.billbiggart.com/about.html
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MOSHE BURSUKER
BFA degree in sculpture and photography from the Hartford Art School at the University of Hartford.



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Moshe Bursuker received his BFA degree in sculpture and photography from the Hartford Art School at the University of Hartford. It was there when he first began working with glass. After leaving Hartford, Moshe continued to pursue his artistic endeavors as a glass artist. He attended Urban Glass, Pilchuck Glass School and the Studio at the Corning Museum of Glass, where he has worked with world's renowned glass artists.

Source: http://www.moshebursuker.com/bio.php
KATHY CACICEDO
Director/Producer/Director of Photography/Editor/Photographer/Graphic Designer



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Kathy Cacicedo has worked for non profits to Fortune 500 companies for the past 15 years. She has been lucky enough to be able to combine her talents in graphic design and photography on many "soup to nuts" projects... developing a company identity, designing all printed and online materials, incorporating her photography into the entire package and most recently being able to provide film and video to accompany the entire package should the client desire.

As a photographer Kathy Cacicedo gained international attention and the 2002 NY Art Directors Club Merit Award for her historic photo of Flight 175 seconds before it's impact on the World Trade Center, as well as Best Feature Photo from the Syracuse Press Club for her photo of "The morning After" - September 12

As a designer she won the 2002 Bronze Award for Website Design from the Art Directors Club of New Jersey for the website of latin music group CTO..

Finally making the jump to film and video, in 2002 she formed her own production company -BuenaOnda Pictures. One of BuenaOnda's first projects - a music video for latin group CTO "Prendele la Mecha" won the BEST MUSIC VIDEO award at the Garden State Film Festival and the NY International Film Festival.

In 2006 she was honored with the first annual "Shooting Star" award from the Garden State Film Festival where VAN VORST PARK starring Frank Vincent (Sopranos), directed by Cacicedo won the BEST HOMEGROWN SHORT.

Kathy wears "alot of hats"...including being manager of latin music sensation Los Mamboteros. You never know where she will be ...shooting photos- designing SOMETHING or out there working on her next film project - a documentary on Harvey Averne - winner of the first grammy for latin music....when she needs a break you will find her dropping in on an Australian in Puerto Rico at Domes on her flourescent green boogie board.

She lives happily behind the statue - with Hollywood Riley.

Source: http://www.kcphotographer.com/pagemainabout.html
CHRISTOPHER CASCIANO
Freelance Front End Web Developer. Sometimes Photographer.
Source: http://cascianoart.com/



DEVIN CLARK
computer graphics animator. Clients: Comedy Central, MTV, TCM and HBO.




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Be it comics, film, illustration or animation Devin Clark has a passion for telling stories, and the stranger the better. Devin has been involved with a broad range of projects including work for HBO, MTV, Comedy Central, TCM, and The Cartoon Network applying his design and narrative skills to everything from network graphics to traditional cartoons. His films and animation have been featured in Stash Magazine, Animation Block Party, Rooftop Films, Ottawa Film Festival, Platform, and BDA. He is presently acting as producer/director on his original animated TV series, Ugly Americans, for Comedy Central.
ROBERT CLARK
National Geographic photographer based in New York City. Works with the world's leading magazines including Time, Sports Illustrated, French Geo, Vanity Fair, Stern, Der Spiegel.



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Based in New York City, Robert Clark is a freelance photographer known for his innovation. He works with some of the world's leading magazines and publishing houses and on cutting-edge advertising campaigns.

Early in his career, Clark left the comfort and familiarity of newspapers to join H. G. "Buzz" Bissenger, author of Friday Night Lights, in documenting the lives of high-school football players and devotion to the game in Odessa, Texas. Bissenger's best-selling book was later made into a major motion picture as well as an NBC television series.

In 2003, an assignment with the Museum of Fine Arts, Houston, took Clark back to Texas to capture the first year of a new NFL team, the Houston Texans. The documentary and portraiture project resulted in one of the museum's most popular exhibits and the publication of a collectable, black-and-white photo book, First Down Houston: Birth of an NFL Franchise.

Clark was commissioned by Sony Ericsson to travel the United States for 50 days to document the beauty and diversity of America with only a cell-phone camera. This unique ad campaign, which was Clark's brainchild, generated a tremendous amount of coverage in major newspapers and on TV news programs. American Photo also featured each leg of his trip on the Web. His book about the assignment, Image America, developed into a gallery exhibit in New York City and became the first ever published photography book using cell-phone camera images.

Clark's work has won numerous awards. His coverage of the attack on the World Trade Center, witnessed from his rooftop in the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn, was recognized at the World Press Photo awards in Amsterdam. He also received a National Magazine Award for "Best Essay" for his National Geographic cover article, "Was Darwin Wrong?"

His photographs have graced some 40 book covers and more than a dozen National Geographic covers. His work has appeared in numerous publications, including Time, Sports Illustrated, GEO, Vanity Fair, Stern, and Der Spiegel.

Currently involved in a variety of projects, Clark continues his association with National Geographic and is working on a book documenting the birth of the science of evolution. He lives in Brooklyn, New York, with his wife, Lai Ling.

Source: www.robertclarkphoto.com
CLIFTON CLOUD
Events manager at Scharff Weisberg, Inc., a NYC-based video production company, whose slogan reads: “Whether you're looking to dazzle the ears, mind or eyes, we've got the latest equipment and the expertise to make it work for you.”




Source: http://www.netprospex.com/people/CLIFTON-CLOUD/16939975

LUC COURCHESNE
3D visual arts expert. Inventor of “Panoscope360”, a sophisticated 3-D installation which simulates “alternative life experiences”




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Luc Courchesne took part in the emergence of media arts thirty years ago when, as a video artist inspired by a generation of experimental filmmakers such as Michael Snow and Hollis Frampton, he adopted computer technologies. First delving into interactive portraiture, a great artistic tradition re-articulated in a new mould, his work has recently turned to another important genre, that of landscape. With his installations, "panoscopic" images, and a device of his own making used to create a sense of visual immersion, he transforms spectators into a visitors, actors and inhabitants of his experiential crafts.

Born 1952 in Québec, Courchesne received a Bachelor's degree from the Nova Scotia College of Art and Design, Halifax (1974), and a Master of Science in Visual Studies from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge (1984). He began his explorations in interactive video in 1984 when he co-authored Elastic Movies, one of the earliest experiments in the field, and since produced about 30 installation works and image series including Encyclopedia Chiaroscuro (1987), Portrait One (1990), Family Portrait (1993), Hall of Shadows (1996), Landscape One (1997), Passages (1998.), Rendez-vous... (1999), Panoscopic Journal (1999), Panoscope 360° (2000), The Visitor: Living by Numbers (2001), Untitled (2004), Where are you? (2005), Horizons (2007), the Shores Series (2008.) and Icons (2009) in a co-creation with artist and choreographer Marie Chouinard.

His work is part of major collections in North America, Europe and Asia and has been shown extensively in galleries and museums worldwide including: Sydney's Art Gallery of New South Wales, New York's Museum of Modern Art, Tokyo's InterCommunication Center (ICC), Paris' La Villette, Karlsruhe's ZKM/Medienmuseum, Montreal?s Musée d'art contemporain, the National Gallery of Canada, Barcelona?s Fundacion La Caixa and Beijing?s National Art Museum of China.

Based in Montreal, Luc Courchesne is professor of design at Université de Montréal, founding member of the Society for Art and Technology [SAT], board member of the Conseil des arts et des lettres du Québec and member of the Royal Canadian Academy of Arts. He is represented by the galery Pierre-François Ouellette art contemporain in Montreal and by the Bryce Wolkowitz Gallery in New York.

Source: http://courchel.net/
LUKE CREMIN



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Luke Cremin — amateur photographer

"This image just prior to the plane impact with the South tower still, a year later, puts a shiver down my spine. Image taken from Atlantic Basin due South of the site of the WTC."

Contributor's location on 9/11: Brooklyn, New York
Cite as: Luke Cremin, Image #1200, The September 11 Digital Archive, 10 September 2002, http://911digitalarchive.org/images/details/1200
RICHARD DREW
Falling Man picture - He was one of only four photographers in the kitchen of the Los Angeles hotel when Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed.
AP Photographer



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Richard Drew is an Associated Press photo-journalist, perhaps most notable for his photo The Falling Man which depicts a man falling from the World Trade Center towers following the September 11, 2001 attacks. A British documentary "The Falling Man" about the photo premiered on the Discovery Times channel on September 10, 2007.

Drew was one of four press photographers present at the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy.[1] Drew has been an Associated Press photographer for 40 years, and lives with his wife and two daughters in New York City.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Drew_%28photographer%29
CHIP EAST
Photojournalist for Reuters & buddy of Bill Biggart (http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0111/biggart_intro.htm)



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Photojournalist Chip East has been focusing on news, features and documentary projects for 20 years. He has taken pictures across the United States and throughout the Middle East, Europe and Latin America for an array of clients. Based in New York for more than a decade, he currently works largely for the international news agency Reuters, concentrating on breaking news.
Source: http://www.chipeast.com/
ARISTIDE ECONOMOPOULOS
Staff Photojournalist at The Star-Ledger. The man who has the teleporting device.









In the above picture is Aris caught on film while running away from the collapsing building. Still he managed to get to Hoboken to shoot some more pictures! :applause: :lol:

For more Aris photo's and info, visit: http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0111/aris11.htm and http://nyppa.org/aris-911

EVAN FAIRBANKS
On 9/11, worked for KSK VIDEO STUDIOS, New York City: “Creative programming solutions for television, interactive and multimedia.” Photographer with world renowned Magnum agency.



ROBERT FISCH
Not much info on Robert Fisch. At least not the person I am looking for. Real person or a fabricated identity???

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My name is Robert. I was having breakfast at
Joe Junior's in the West Village when a crowd starting to form outside. In
short order, we learned the World Trade had suffered some catastrophe.

After taking a look at the black gash in the facade of the building, I
abandoned breakfast and ran to my apartment across the street and grabbed my
camera. It was loaded and ready (I'd just gotton back from Florida
several days before).

I snapped a few pictures and saw the second plane in my viewfinder. I
snapped it instinctively. I had no idea it was going to hit the south tower.


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My camera was trained on the towers when the second plane
came into view. The picture I took of the airplane should be in the repository.

As viewed from the north, the plane appeared to vanish. When the building
erupted in flame, I still had this "disconnect" in my mind and at first
refused to believe the plane I'd just seen hit the building. After a few
seconds when the sound wave reached us, it was fairly clear that was what
happened.


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After my first shot of the fireball, I was frozen like I was in a trance.
Everything seemed to be happening in slow motion.

When the sound wave reached us (it sounded just like in the movies,
only not so loud---then again, I was probably 2 miles away)....it
brought me back to reality and I snapped this picture.
RUTH FREMSON
New York Times Photographer








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I was in Flushing, Queens, taking photographs at polling places for the primary election that day. When I was paged I drove behind a caravan of at least 10 emergency vehicles to the vicinity of the World Trade Center, where the police indicated that I should park a couple of blocks away. I did, on Church Street.

I walked to the corner of Vesey and Church Streets and photographed some of the wounded.

Across the street, police and emergency workers were evacuating a building. The towers were burning, the smoke billowing. Suddenly, I heard a loud noise and thought another plane was going to hit the towers. I looked up, trying to photograph the building, and realized it was imploding.

People were running and screaming, and when I saw emergency personnel also running I ran with them. I heard a loud rumbling and followed a man who rolled under a Police Department truck.

All of a sudden, we were engulfed by a tidal wave of black dust and chunks of rocklike particles. I held onto the arm of a man under there with me, not realizing he was a police officer. I opened my eyes but couldn’t see anything. Everything was completely black. My eyes were burning. I couldn’t breathe, and I wondered for a second if this was what death was like.

The officer asked if I was O.K. I said yes. We heard glass breaking nearby and heard someone yelling “hello.” He was calling us to come into the Stage Door Deli maybe 10 feet away from where we were. The officer, Dan Mullin, grabbed my hand and pulled me in there. Inside were some firefighters completely covered in white ash, an elderly man with an accent and a cap and a man in a business suit, who stumbled in with a younger woman. They were O.K. A young woman was very frightened and near tears. One woman, an emergency worker, was just standing, stunned. Some of the firefighters passed out water, and it was first a man, then a woman calling for Pete, the owner.

But there was no one who worked in the store, only us, helping ourselves to his water and napkins to wipe ourselves off, spitting water on the floor. We used the phone, too, taking turns.

I saw firefighters walking through the ash and dust that clouded the air and then saw some police officers with shotguns. As the cloud slowly cleared we could see one tower standing. A chilling sight. A bit later we heard the rumbling again. And then it began to get dark outside again.

We all ran to the back of the deli and down some steps into the basement, where we waited.

When smoke started coming up from the basement, we decided to leave. One of the emergency personnel gave us wet rags to breathe through.

Just south of City Hall everything was covered with ash. Black smoke was billowing behind a church, and it looked as if only emergency personnel and journalists were there. The sun was shining through the dust over the Brooklyn Bridge, which carried an exodus of people across it toward the sunshine. Some looked back; others were crying, and others were stunned.

I saw two fashionable women, wearing matching blue towels draped over their heads, walking their matching dogs over the bridge.

Today we are publishing a handful of personal accounts by journalists who covered the Sept. 11 attacks for The Times. This one was originally published Sunday, Sept. 16, 2001.

Source: http://cityroom.blogs.nyt(...)the-stage-door-deli/
ANGEL FRANCO
New York Times Photographer (http://partners.nytimes.c(...)o-journal-index.html)



KELLY GUENTHER
Pulitzer Prize winning photo-journalist whose work has appeared in The New York Times, Time, Newsweek.



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Kelly is a Pulitzer Prize winning photojournalist who now runs a successful wedding/events studio in NYC. We capture the true spirit of the wedding day. http://www.nycweddingphotographer.com

Source: http://twitter.com/#!/guentherphoto
DON HALASY
New York Post photographer





TAMARA BECKWITH
(born 17 April 1970) is an English socialite, noted for her coverage in glossy celebrity magazines such as OK! and Hello! magazine.


Source: http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/911/911-docphotos.html

DAVID HANDSCHUH
Photojournalist for New York Daily News. Took picture of South Tower exploding right underneath it. No plane is seen in picture. He says he did not see any plane.

Handschuh followed a police radio call to the World Trade Center, where the first jet plane had just struck the north tower. He photographed the second plane as it crashed through the south tower, then felt the rumble of the collapsing building.



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"New York Daily News staff photographer David Handschuh was photographing the World Trade Centers while they were under attack. He was badly injured from falling debris. Fortunately, he survived, with some of his pictures being published in the Daily News. In this interview by Susan Markisz and Dirck Halstead, David gives a vivid account of his experience."
Source: http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0110/int_handschuh.htm
ROB HOWARD
Photo of Flight 175 hitting WTC 2
Professional award-winning photographer.
Photo of Flight 175 hitting WTC 2



quote:
While studying comparative literature and philosophy at the University of Toronto,
Rob purchased his first camera in a pawnshop and started photographing fashion models.
Within a year, he had moved to Sydney to develop his career under the hot Australian sun.

A move to Paris followed where Rob received a prestigious commission to photograph
the royal family of Morocco. That experience broadened his focus to include portraiture
and travel photography. Shortly thereafter, he was assigned to go to Tibet, Borneo and
northern India where he met and photographed the Dalai Lama over a three-week period.

Rob then relocated to New York City where magazine and advertising assignments
quickly followed.

Rob is recognized for his heroic portraits, energetic lifestyle shots and epic travel
adventures. His work has been honored by American Photography and Communication
Arts. He is also on the masthead of Condé Nast Traveler.

Rob lives between New York City and the Catskills with his wife, Lisa.
Source: http://www.robhowardphoto.com/gallery/delaware-county
JUSTIN LANE
New York Times Photographer



http://www.justinlane-photographer.com/

JOHN LABRIOLA
Amateur photographer and independent contractor with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey

For many people, cameras are like diaries—a means to record minor as well as important details of daily life. John Labriola used his Nikon CoolPix digital camera to make this amazing record of one survivor’s view of the events of September 11. His photographs show the calm before the attack, the drama in the stairwell as workers evacuated and firefighters rushed to help, the carnage and destruction on the street, and finally his return home.
....

A few floors lower water was flowing creating rapids down the stairs. This got worse as we got lower down. The stairwell led down to an outside door lined with emergency workers urging us to move to safety. There was debris and broken glass everywhere. The courtyard where this outdoor landing led us onto must have been blocked or too dangerous for us to cross because we were directed back into that second floor balcony again and down two escalators into the mall under Tower 1. Water was falling everywhere - 8 to 10 inches in some places. Many of the stores had windows blown out. All along the way emergency workers urged us to keep moving.






http://americanhistory.si(...)ion/record.asp?ID=62

CHANG W. LEE
New York Times Photographer



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Whether he is photographing the war in Afghanistan, chronicling the ravages of pollution in China or delighting in the Olympics in Sydney, Nagano or Beijing, Chang W. Lee takes lyrical and poetic pictures. He believes that everyone has a story to tell and that every story, no matter how painful, contains beauty.

"Someone shares his story with me," Mr. Lee said, "then it becomes my story. Then it becomes your story. Then it is history."

Starting as an intern at The New York Times in 1994, he has developed a unique photographic style that combines an impeccable sense of light with complicated composition and surprising juxtapositions.

Mr. Lee was a member of the teams that won the Pulitzer Prizes for photography in 2002: one for Breaking News Photography for coverage of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and the other for Feature Photography for documenting the pain and perseverance of people enduring protracted conflict in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Mr. Lee was also among the New York Times journalists who won the 2008 Grantham Prize for "Choking on Growth," a series that examined the effects of industrialization on the Chinese environment. In addition, he has won numerous awards in prestigious photographic competitions such as Pictures of the Year (POYI), the Best of Photojournalism (BOPJ) and the New York Press Photographers (NYPPA) annual contest.

Born in Pusan, Korea, in 1968, Mr. Lee came to the United States in 1986 and graduated from New York University's Tisch School of the Arts with a Bachelor of Fine Arts in 1993.

He is married to the graphic designer, Seolbin Park, with whom he has a son, Gio.

Source: http://topics.nytimes.com(...)chang_lee/index.html
CATHERINE LEUTHOLD
Independent photojournalist



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There are many unreal moments. At 9:50 am I stand in disbelief as the south tower collapses in front of my lens. It sounds like a jet taking off. I move slowly away towards the street when a huge grey cloud filled with debris slams into me and I almost fall. Watching it through my camera, I steal four frames, that I see later are a gray cloud with parts of a police car, a man running in front of it, and a blue police barricade. And then just nothing but suffocating blackness, muffled screams, moans, an "Oh my God", and my quiet terror.

I felt like I was being buried alive. I couldn't breath or see. I think, ahhh shit, this is it. But it isn't. I reach out and find a corner of marble of a wall in front of me and pull myself around it. I pull my shirt over my mouth and keep my eyes closed. I start talking, saying my name and that I'm a photographer over and over to keep the fear back. I ask if anyone is near me. Then arms and a voice find me and we talk quickly. I ask him who he is, what does he do, anything. I will always remember his voice, but I can't remember his name. That bothers me. There is no sense of time in this place, we hear a shout "Over here...a door." We struggle to find it in the blackness, and then there is a yellow light.

I see a ghostly face, a man wearing a Yarmulke, he pulls us into a computer shop. A woman screams her partner is still out there. The man has locked the door and I yell at him to open it. No one should be out there. There is no anwser outside, and I start taking pictures again.

Source: http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0110/voices06.htm
SEYMOUR LEVY
Advertising agency art director
Amateur Photographer

Next I ran to my office at 100 Sixth Avenue, four blocks north of the Canal Street station, where being an advertising agency art director, and photography being my avocation, I keep a camera at my desk. I grabbed the camera, raced outside my building and started documenting the devastation on film. With my telephoto lens I was able to zoom in on the flaming towers. Then the screaming directly behind me began. "They're jumping, my God, they're jumping from windows!" I turned around and began focusing my camera on the horrified expressions of the onlookers witnessing the calamity.

I was transfixed to the spot when I next saw one of the towers begin to buckle. It was as if some enormous invisible hand was pressing downward, crumbling the building with its sheer power. In mere seconds, in an awesome cloud of pulverizing smoke, suddenly there was no more World Trade Center. I was witnessing the impossible!

I was able to capture these terrible few moments on film with quick succession photos. http://americanhistory.si(...)upporting.asp?ID=621






KARIM RAOUL



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Karim Raoul was born in 1978 and grew up in Nyack, New York. The son of a documentary filmmaker, he spent much of his childhood traveling throughout the world discovering new people and cultures. These experiences had a profound effect on his decision to attempt to capture the spirit of the world's ordinary peoples in their struggle to survive consequence and injustice.
Raoul later went on to study filmmaking at New York University where in addition to his studies, he worked as a cameraman on documentaries, narrative films, music videos and commercials. He was also a butcher and a cook, and in 2000 at the age of 21, opened his own multimedia restaurant.
During his experiences on Sept 11 he was once again touched by the the ordinary New Yorker in extraordinary circumstances. Raoul began taking photographs of the hidden life of everyday. He also continued to work as a cameraman and directed several of his own award winning short films.
In 2004, he became a key figure in setting up an international section of a film school in Paris, France and worked on over 60 short films. Continuing to take photographs on the streets of Paris, he matured in the technical craft of the still image and began selling his photographs to local publications.
Driven by a new found passion for photography, Raoul is now back in New York City in hopes of becoming a photojournalist.

http://karimraoulimages.com/karimraoul/website/index.html
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1760849/
http://www.fandango.com/karimraoul/filmography/p558402


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TODD MAISEL
Press Photographers Assoc.



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I am a staff photographer with the NY Daily News for 10 years, adjunct professor at City Tech, City University of NY, chairman of Region 2 National Press Photographers Association and an active member in NY Press Photographers Association. I've been photographer, journalist and editor for 26 years. I am an alumni of NYU.

Source: http://www.plaxo.com/prof(...)b88e564173d7f30d40d9
ANDREA MOHIN
New York Times Photographer



http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/24/andrea-mohins-jump-shot/


STEVE McCURRY
Magnum Photo's



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Steve McCurry, recognized universally as one of today’s finest image-makers, has won many of photography’s top awards. Best known for his evocative color photography, McCurry, in the finest documentary tradition, captures the essence of human struggle and joy. Member of Magnum Photos since 1986, McCurry has searched and found the unforgettable; many of his images have become modern icons. Born in Philadelphia, McCurry graduated cum laude from the College of Arts and Architecture at the Pennsylvania State University. After working at a newspaper for two years, he left for India to freelance. It was in India that McCurry learned to watch and wait on life. “If you wait,” he realized, “people will forget your camera and the soul will drift up into view.”

More here: http://www.stevemccurry.com/main.php
SUSAN MEISELAS
Magnum Photo's

Photographer and MacArthur fellow Susan Meiselas is best known for her work covering political upheavals in Central America in the 1970s and 80s.



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Susan Meiselas received her B.A. from Sarah Lawrence College and her M.A. in visual education from Harvard University. Her first major photographic essay focused on the lives of women doing striptease at New England country fairs. She photographed the carnivals during three consecutive summers while teaching photography in the New York public schools. CARNIVAL STRIPPERS was published by Farrar, Straus & Giroux in 1976. A selection was installed at the Whitney Museum of Art in June 2000. The original book was revised and reprinted by the Whitney Museum and Steidl Verlag in 2003.

Meiselas joined Magnum Photos in 1976 and has worked as a freelance photographer since then. She is best known for her coverage of the insurrection in Nicaragua and her documentation of human rights issues in Latin America, which were published widely throughout the world. In 1981, Pantheon published her second monograph, NICARAGUA, JUNE 1978-JULY 1979 which was reprinted by Aperture in the fall 2008.
http://www.susanmeiselas.com/
SCOTT MEYERS
ABC TV video technician. 3-D motion expert and software designer. Clients: ABC and US NAVY.





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Port Authority of NY & NJ
42nd Street Ballroom, Managed overhaul of Audio Kinetic sculpture by George Rhoads. Sculpture is a large, 8’ x 8’ x 8’ Plexiglas and steel sculpture filled with billiard balls, chimes, xylophone bars, a wok, and various pumps and motors. Overhaul involved hinging cabinetry, adding motion detectors to lessen wear and tear, replacing large loop d’loop, and cleaning and painting sculpture.

Source: http://forums.ni.com/atta(...)chnical%20Resume.pdf
Source: http://homepage.mac.com/scottmyers/desktoplabs/TVS%20aboutus.html

JAMES NACHTWEY
Award-winning photojournalist and war photographer.



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James Nachtwey is an extremely inspiring photographer. He has been all over the world documenting the real life situations that he has seen. His photos are very dramatic and real. He started out photographing in America and taking photos of the war. He also has taken photos of the people in India, Rwanda, Bosnia, South Africa, Kosovo, Israel, Indonesia and more. He even was there in New York city on 9-11-01 and had taken very vivid photos of the twin towers not knowing what exactly had happened when he first saw the sky filled with debris, dust, and smoke. All of his photos make an impact because they all show drastic times that our world has experienced. On his website I like the quote that he said below.
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“I have been a witness, and these pictures are

my testimony. The events I have recorded should

not be forgotten and must not be repeated.” James Nachtwey

Source: http://jessicaniebuhr.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/james-nachtwey/
NAKA NATHANIEL
Multimedia journalist at New York Times. Specializes in ‘desktop virtual news.’ Embedded with US military in war zones.


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Naka Nathaniel is a retired multimedia journalist and consultant living in Atlanta, Georgia. He was an original member of the team that launched NYTimes.com in 1995.

On September 11, he filmed the second plane crash from his rooftop in Brooklyn. A sequence of shots from the videotape were the dominant images on NYTimes.com during the day and the footage was broadcast on network and cable channels.


He spent almost five years based in Paris toting his cameras, computers and communications gear to produce multimedia features for The New York Times from A (Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge) to Z (Zimbabwe) -- including the three countries in George W. Bush's "Axis of Evil." He was nominated for an Emmy in 2006 for work in Darfur. Footage from travels with Nicholas Kristof was used in the HBO documentary “Reporter.”


A graduate of the University of Texas, he is married to Meredith Artley, the managing editor of CNN.com. He is now the stay-at-home parent for their young son.


Source: http://www.nakanathaniel.com/Site/Splash.html
En zo zijn er nog veel meer.....

Wie kan mij nu eens wat echte amateur foto's showen van die duizenden mensen in de straten van New York? Ik geloof best wel dat die er zijn, alleen je komt ze niet vaak tegen. Misschien dat ik verkeerd zoek, dat kan goed namelijk.

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Tsja jammer genoeg waren er toen nog geen mobieltjes met camera's zoals die nu iedereen heeft, dan was er nu helemaal geen discussie geweest want dan waren er letterlijk honderden filmpjes/foto's met vliegtuigen te zien.

Destijds waren er maar mondjesmaat 'normale' mensen met digitale camera's en hadden mensen die al helemaal niet bij zich in de spits. Dat is echt iets van de laatste 6 - 7 jaar.

Overigens laat deze foto zien dat die gast vanuit hoek 14th and 7th wel misschien het vliegtuig heeft kunnen zien. Dit is ongeveer vanaf dezelfde hoek alleen staat deze fotograaf iets dichterbij.

http://old.911digitalarchive.org/images/files/515.pjpeg
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Tsja jammer genoeg waren er toen nog geen mobieltjes met camera's zoals die nu iedereen heeft, dan was er nu helemaal geen discussie geweest want dan waren er letterlijk honderden filmpjes/foto's met vliegtuigen te zien.

Destijds waren er maar mondjesmaat 'normale' mensen met digitale camera's en hadden mensen die al helemaal niet bij zich in de spits. Dat is echt iets van de laatste 6 - 7 jaar.
Dat klopt aardig ja, maar vind jij het niet opvallend dat er zoveel media gerelateerde mensen de cruciale shots te pakken hebben gehad?

Zelf had ik in 2001 al een Sony Cybershot en ik ga er dan ook vanuit dat er tussen die "duizenden ooggetuigen" en zeker wel mensen zaten die ook een digitale of analoge camera hadden. New York stikt van de toeristen he... en wat hebben die vaak bij zich? ;) Ik zou iig mijn toestel gaan pakken, indien ik dit soort dingen op mijn netvlies zie. Dat wil je gewoon vastleggen.

Kortom, waar zijn die amateur foto's? Er moet er toch minstens een paar zijn die ook de vliegtuigen op de gevoelige plaat hebben weten te zetten.

Maar goed... als die er al zijn, dan zegt dat eigenlijk nog niets aangezien ze de credits van een gefabriceerde foto ook gewoon naar een niet bestaande amateur kunnen laten gaan. Geen hond die checkt of die persoon echt bestaat namelijk.

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Overigens laat deze foto zien dat die gast vanuit hoek 14th and 7th wel misschien het vliegtuig heeft kunnen zien. Dit is ongeveer vanaf dezelfde hoek alleen staat deze fotograaf iets dichterbij.

http://old.911digitalarchive.org/images/files/515.pjpeg
Dat is een totaal andere invalshoek en bovendien is de afstand niet te vergelijken.
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KATHY CACICEDO
Director/Producer/Director of Photography/Editor/Photographer/Graphic Designer

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NAKA NATHANIEL
Multimedia journalist at New York Times. Specializes in ‘desktop virtual news.’ Embedded with US military in war zones.

Damn, dat vliegtuig is snel gedaald t.o.v. de foto :') — in het filmpje daalt-ie namelijk helemaal niet. (Of mis ik nu iets? Komt het louter door een vertekend perspectief bla-die-bla :'( ) De timing was wel perfect van de Amerikaanse overheid, want televisie is nu nauwelijks nog een medium voor nieuws vergeleken met tien jaar geleden, geloof ik.
“Je moet vergeten, alles kun je vergeten, want alles verdwijnt al.
Vergeet de tijd van misverstanden, en de tijd verspild aan het hoe en waarom.
Vergeet de uren waarin wij vermoordden, door het zoeken waarom, het hart van ons geluk.”
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Dat klopt aardig ja, maar vind jij het niet opvallend dat er zoveel media gerelateerde mensen de cruciale shots te pakken hebben gehad?

Zelf had ik in 2001 al een Sony Cybershot en ik ga er dan ook vanuit dat er tussen die "duizenden ooggetuigen" en zeker wel mensen zaten die ook een digitale of analoge camera hadden. New York stikt van de toeristen he... en wat hebben die vaak bij zich? ;) Ik zou iig mijn toestel gaan pakken, indien ik dit soort dingen op mijn netvlies zie. Dat wil je gewoon vastleggen.

Kortom, waar zijn die amateur foto's? Er moet er toch minstens een paar zijn die ook de vliegtuigen op de gevoelige plaat hebben weten te zetten.

Maar goed... als die er al zijn, dan zegt dat eigenlijk nog niets aangezien ze de credits van een gefabriceerde foto ook gewoon naar een niet bestaande amateur kunnen laten gaan. Geen hond die checkt of die persoon echt bestaat namelijk.

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Dat is een totaal andere invalshoek en bovendien is de afstand niet te vergelijken.
Het probleem is ook een beetje dat elke zoekactie op internet telkens honderden conspiracy sites als resultaat oplevert waardoor het moeilijk wordt om gewoon forums of homepages te vinden waar mensen hun eigen foto's hebben geplaatst. ze MOETEN er wel zijn ja zou je denken.
Hoewel veel toeristen misschien nog aan het ontbijt zaten rond dat tijdstip.

En op die ene foto blijkt duidelijk dat het vliegtuig een beetje uit Zuid-oostelijke richting kwam, niet puur Zuid waardoor het vanaf die hoek 14th and 7th denk ik wel zichtbaar is geweest.
Maar laten we daar maar over ophouden.
De site waar ik die getuigenissen las was overigens wel een van de weinige sites die niet vol stond met reacties van conspiracy gasten. Helaas geen fotos
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Ik heb een pagina met fotos van een getuige gevonden, helaas geen foto van een vliegtuig, maar toch indrukwekkend om te zien (of was deze ook al bekend bij jullie??)

http://www.flickr.com/pho(...)6396/with/127764943/

Wel zegt hij: Just then, the second plane came screaming overhead and into Tower 2. I thought it was going to hit my building.

Dus hij hoorde duidelijk iets over vliegen. Ik denk dat in ieder geval duidelijk moge zijn dat er IETS vliegends in de torens is geknalt. Helaas is dit geen direct bewijs voor een boeing.

Deze foto laat wel duidelijk de vorm van de linker vleugel zien die in te toren is geknald

http://www.flickr.com/pho(...)et-72057594105816396

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Overigens is die gast nog actief op Flickr, dus als je een beetje lef hebt als no plane beleiver kun je hem op de man af vragen of hij echt bewijs heeft gezien van een Boeing van AA (wrakstukken enzo). Lijkt me dat dit geen acteur of medewerker van de cia is
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@falling_away:

Die gast zijn pseudoniem is Hiro Oshima.... of zou dat zijn echte naam zijn? :?


AP Photo/Hiro Oshima via Sept. 11 Memorial and Museum

Hij krijgt dus blijkbaar ook credits voor een screenshot uit een filmpje afkomstig van een ander :{

Bron: http://www.examiner.com/h(...)an-affect-our-health

Het gaat dan om dit filmpje:


Kijk ook eens naar deze link en kijk eens goed naar de foto's van Hiro Oshima.

http://zibili.com/sept11/911.htm

Hij was dus op diverse plaatsen op 11 september. Zo te zien was hij zelfs op plaatsen waar op dat moment geen burgers meer werden toegelaten en dus alleen maar militairen, agenten en andere hulpdiensten aanwezig waren.

Goh... zou het toch een fotograaf zijn? ;)

Ook opmerkelijk:

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Hiro (photographer)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yasuhiro Wakabayashi, professionally known as Hiro, is an American commercial photographer. He was born in Shanghai in 1930 to Japanese parents. A “photographer’s photographer,” Hiro has shown a very distinctive vision, and his work in fashion and still life from the mid 1960s onward has spawned many imitators and remains a lasting influence today.

Hiro returned to Japan from China at the end of the Second World War. In 1954, he went to America, and briefly enrolled in the School of Modern Photography in New York. He was dissatisfied with the school, however, and apprenticed himself to the studio of Lester Bookbinder and Reuben Samberg. At the end of 1956, he began working for the fashion photographer Richard Avedon. Around the same time, Hiro encountered Alexey Brodovitch, the art director at Harper's Bazaar, and worked as his assistant for a time, during Brodovitch's Design Laboratory at the New School.

By the end of 1957, Hiro was no longer Avedon’s assistant, and had launched his own career. Within only a few years, Hiro became a star fashion photographer in his own right. He made significant contributions as a staff photographer to Harper's Bazaar from 1956 to 1975, and was named Photographer of the Year by the American Society of Magazine Photographers in 1969. One of his early celebrated photographs is a 1963 image of a Harry Winston diamond necklace placed on a bovine hoof. Surreal and unique, Hiro's photographs are noted for their elegance and clean appearance. These qualities are established by the use of uncommon lighting, the juxtaposition of unexpected elements, and his signature use of color.

Hiro is well known for his unique aesthetic, extreme originality, and the precision of execution of his vision. The trade magazine American Photographer devoted an entire issue to him in 1982.
Zouden ze de naam van de échte Hiro "geleend" hebben?

Van CNN:

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After the terrorist attacks, none of the residents of the buildings in the area were allowed back in to collect their pets.

Among them was Hiro Oshima, a photographer who lived a block away. He was at home when he heard the first airplane attack. He rushed out with his camera and was clicking photographs when the buildings began to come down.

Bron: http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/rec.pet.rescues/index.html
Volgens het CNN verhaal was hij daar om zijn kat na 4 dagen op te halen.

Deze mag dus worden toegevoegd aan de lijst met professionals :)

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@falling_away:

Die gast zijn pseudoniem is Hiro Oshima.... of zou dat zijn echte naam zijn? :?

[ afbeelding ]
AP Photo/Hiro Oshima via Sept. 11 Memorial and Museum

Hij krijgt dus blijkbaar ook credits voor een screenshot uit een filmpje afkomstig van een ander :{

Bron: http://www.examiner.com/h(...)an-affect-our-health

Het gaat dan om dit filmpje:


Kijk ook eens naar deze link en kijk eens goed naar de foto's van Hiro Oshima.

http://zibili.com/sept11/911.htm

Hij was dus op diverse plaatsen op 11 september. Zo te zien was hij zelfs op plaatsen waar op dat moment geen burgers meer werden toegelaten en dus alleen maar militairen, agenten en andere hulpdiensten aanwezig waren.

Goh... zou het toch een fotograaf zijn? ;)

Ook opmerkelijk:

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Zouden ze de naam van de échte Hiro "geleend" hebben?

Van CNN:

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Deze mag dus worden toegevoegd aan de lijst met professionals :)
Vreemd dat iemand blijkbaar zijn naam onder dat filmpje heeft gezet ja, maar die link:
http://zibili.com/sept11/911.htm

Die is inderdaad van hem en hij zegt ook op zijn Flickr account dat hij die foto's ook eerst op zijn site heeft gezet. Dat zijn gewoon exact dezelfde fotos.

Dat Wikipedia artikeltje zegt verder natuurlijkhelemaal niks buiten toevallig dezelfde naam.

Feit is dat die gast actief is op Flickr en je hem dus persoonlijk kunt aanspreken met de nogal zware aantijgen die jullie hier uiten. Dan maak je het eens concreet.

http://www.flickr.com/people/hiro_oshima/

Dit is zijn profiel, ga je gang.. of ben je soms bang?
Alpha kenny one
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Vreemd dat iemand blijkbaar zijn naam onder dat filmpje heeft gezet ja, maar die link:
http://zibili.com/sept11/911.htm

Die is inderdaad van hem en hij zegt ook op zijn Flickr account dat hij die foto's ook eerst op zijn site heeft gezet. Dat zijn gewoon exact dezelfde fotos.

Dat Wikipedia artikeltje zegt verder natuurlijkhelemaal niks buiten toevallig dezelfde naam.

Feit is dat die gast actief is op Flickr en je hem dus persoonlijk kunt aanspreken met de nogal zware aanteigen die jullie hier uiten.

http://www.flickr.com/people/hiro_oshima/

Dit is zijn profiel, ga je gang.. of ben je soms bang?
Bang? Nee, maar waarom zou ik dat doen? Ik verwacht een ridiculiserende reactie, als ik hem confronteer met mijn vragen. Ik verwacht tevens geen eerlijk antwoord en dus wat heb ik er aan?

En ik zie dit nog steeds als een theorie, ik ben er zelf ook niet 100% zeker van, maar ik acht het allemaal wel heel waarschijnlijk als ik alles wat ik ben tegengekomen bij elkaar optel.

Maar goed, ben je het met me eens dat dit wederom een professional is?

Ik wacht nog steeds op de foto's van your average Joe! :)

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Bang? Nee, maar waarom zou ik dat doen? Ik verwacht een ridiculiserende reactie, als ik hem confronteer met mijn vragen. Ik verwacht tevens geen eerlijk antwoord en dus wat heb ik er aan?

En ik zie dit nog steeds als een theorie, ik ben er zelf ook niet 100% zeker van, maar ik acht het allemaal wel heel waarschijnlijk als ik alles wat ik ben tegengekomen bij elkaar optel.
Ok dus denk je dat die man in opdracht van de CIA werkt ofzo? Waarom zou hij niet eerlijk zijn?
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Ok dus denk je dat die man in opdracht van de CIA werkt ofzo? Waarom zou hij niet eerlijk zijn?
Die man hoeft niet eens "die man" te zijn, als je snapt wat ik bedoel.
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Ik had mijn post nog wat bewerkt:

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Maar goed, ben je het met me eens dat dit wederom een professional is?

Ik wacht nog steeds op de foto's van your average Joe! :)
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Die man hoeft niet eens "die man" te zijn, als je snapt wat ik bedoel.
Hij heeft een uitgebreid profiel met zeer veel verschillende foto shoots buiten 9/11.
Het lijkt me eerder een hobby fotograaf die direct zijn camera pakte op 11 september om foto's te nemen, niks geks. Als hij een professional was had hij wel een link naar een site waar hij zijn diensten aanbiedt o.i.d.

Als een hobbyist noemt hij ook de camera's die hij gebruikt voor zijn shoots e.d.

Als ik jou was met zo'n omstreden theorie zou ik hem direct mailen iig. Wel de vragen een beetje subtiel stellen natuurlijk. Het punt is dat niemand dat doet maar wel allerlei aannames doet over hem en zijn shoots.
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Hij heeft een uitgebreid profiel met zeer veel verschillende foto shoots buiten 9/11.
Het lijkt me eerder een hobby fotograaf die direct zijn camera pakte op 11 september om foto's te nemen, niks geks. Als hij een professional was had hij wel een link naar een site waar hij zijn diensten aanbiedt o.i.d.

Als een hobbyist noemt hij ook de camera's die hij gebruikt voor zijn shoots e.d.

Als ik jou was met zo'n omstreden theorie zou ik hem direct mailen iig. Wel de vragen een beetje subtiel stellen natuurlijk. Het punt is dat niemand dat doet maar wel allerlei aannames doet over hem en zijn shoots.
2 seconden werk..

www.hirovision.com/
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Ach het is natuurlijk veel veiliger om allerlei aantijgingen te doen op een internetforum dan om echt de confrontatie aan te gaan.

Dat is ook de reden waarom dit soort complottheorietjes nooit verder komen dan discutabele websites. Op het moment dat je mensen namelijk echt op dit niveau gaat beschuldigen ben je namelijk nogal gevoelig voor aanklachten in verband met smaad en dergelijke. Ik vind het sowieso verwonderlijk wat hier soms over individuen aan beschuldigen wordt geuit zonder dat dat ooit gevolgen heeft.

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2 seconden werk..

www.hirovision.com/
Het feit dat iemand een website heeft waarop hij foto's verkoopt wil niet zeggen dat hij een professionele fotograaf is. Ik heb ook een website met foto's, als ik op 9/11 in New York was geweest, was ik dan ook onderdeel van het complot geweest.

Je stelt gaandeweg je eisen bij. Eerst waren het allemaal professionals bij grote bureau's, nu ben je al verdacht als je een website hebt?
Cuz I'm praying for rain, And I'm praying for tidal waves
I wanna see the ground give way.I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom please flush it all away.I wanna watch it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in. Watch you flush it all away.
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Ach het is natuurlijk veel veiliger om allerlei aantijgingen te doen op een internetforum dan om echt de confrontatie aan te gaan.

Dat is ook de reden waarom dit soort complottheorietjes nooit verder komen dan discutabele websites. Op het moment dat je mensen namelijk echt op dit niveau gaat beschuldigen ben je namelijk nogal gevoelig voor aanklachten in verband met smaad en dergelijke. Ik vind het sowieso verwonderlijk wat hier soms over individuen aan beschuldigen wordt geuit zonder dat dat ooit gevolgen heeft.

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Het feit dat iemand een website heeft waarop hij foto's verkoopt wil niet zeggen dat hij een professionele fotograaf is. Ik heb ook een website met foto's, als ik op 9/11 in New York was geweest, was ik dan ook onderdeel van het complot geweest.

Je stelt gaandeweg je eisen bij. Eerst waren het allemaal professionals bij grote bureau's, nu ben je al verdacht als je een website hebt?
Ach... zodra je een login voor klanten hebt, dan noem ik je professioneel :')

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2 seconden werk..

www.hirovision.com/
Nou dan weet je dus helemaal zeker dat je met de goeie te maken hebt :)
En tot nu toe waren alle professionele fotografen nogal anoniem en konden ze makkelijk beschuldigd worden. Nu is het toch al iets persoonlijker. Ook al is hij een professional het doet verder niks af aan zijn foto's natuurlijk. Als hij betrokken was bij het complot was hij nu niet meer zo actief ondier die credentials.

Hoe verklaren de no-planers trouwens de perfecte uitlijn van een vliegtuig in het gat van de WTC? Zijn de explosieven zo goed geplaatst of zijn ALLE foto's en videos bewerkt?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hiro_oshima/127764819/

Ik neem aan dat er wel een uitleg voor is maar die ken ik niet
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