[Centraal] MMA topic #81 Evans vs Ortiz

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Op woensdag 10 augustus 2011 21:03 schreef Fenomeno het volgende:
Ik had geloof ik 10 van de 11 winnaars correct, maar wel veel punten verloren met method/round

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Op woensdag 10 augustus 2011 22:46 schreef Paxlie het volgende:
Op twitter zijn barry en struve ook lekker bezig samen, epische lulz

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HypeOrDie Pat Barry
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Op donderdag 11 augustus 2011 14:07 schreef McNulty het volgende:
Pat Barry praat aardig nederlands zo te zien.

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11/08/11 - Exclusive: Golden Glory statement on Zuffa, Overeem, future

Fighters Only has obtained an exclusive statement from Golden Glory head Bas Boon regarding the recent fall out with Zuffa which saw Alistair Overeem, Marloes Coenen, Jon Olav Einemo and Valentijn Overeem dropped from their respective Strikeforce and UFC contracts.

UFC president Dana White said the crux of the disagreement was Golden Glory’s business practices, mainly an insistence that fighter monies be paid to Golden Glory and not to the fighter directly. It was also rumoured that Overeem’s negotiations on a new contract went sour thanks to hardball negotiating tactics from the Dutch side, angering the Zuffa hierarchy.

Interestingly, Boon also alludes to conversations with Scott Coker (Strikeforce CEO) about a deal he was trying to broker which would have been “a massive move for becoming a real competitor to the UFC”. Fighters Only heard some time ago that Golden Glory was looking at expanding into stateside promotions, which the UFC did not like.

Bas Boon replied to a Fighters Only email today:

First of all we would like to thank all the support of the fans.

The Golden Glory management discussed before coming to the US about the payment situation and it was agreed to speak with a Zuffa lawyer about this in Vancouver, to find a solution.

There was a contract in place and Golden Glory and Einemo honored the UFC rules including getting the check on the fighters name (Einemo showed his check in the gym as well which was on his name and Alistair and Valentijn also confirmed their payment was done by check in their name).

The Zuffa lawyer explained that the fighters could open an account at a bank were the UFC did their banking and the check would clear in only two days instead of 6 weeks till 8 weeks (that's how long it takes to clear a check in a foreign country which was also an issue for some of the fighters) and they could then transfer the amount to the final destination at their choice. They were thankful and did this.

The reason that the Golden Glory management company is doing this business for the GG fighters for over 12 years with payment dirrectly to the management company is for the benefit of the fighters, coaches and trainers are paid on time and the management company will take care of bookkeeper and taxes and exchange rates and legal help for the fighters.

We have many fighters from many different parts of the world and also have gyms in Berlin Germany, Liverpool England, Pattaya Thailand, California USA, Bucharest Romania, Moscow Russia and three gyms in Holland. Golden Glory is growing on an international level and we are working with one management company to coordinate these businesses.

Fighters only sign agreements with promoters if coaches, trainers, management and the fighter agree with the terms, regardless to whom the payment will be done.

The Strikeforce situation was different.

Behind the scene I was preparing a great deal for corporation between Strikeforce, Dream, K-1 and Glory to do something great together with Scott ( this included a tv channel and footage deal). I introduced Scott thru a partner of mine in LA to some powerful people in the US (Scott was very surprised after this meeting and exited and mailed me after his meeting with these people how impressed he was). I never could have guessed that at the same moment I was talking to Scott to make a massive move for becoming a real competitor to the UFC, Scott was already talking with the same UFC for selling Strikeforce.

Scott told me that he had partners and that there were financial difficulties with Strikeforce and any new TV or other deal they would welcome. As I am a producer as well ( produced more then 1000 hour of fighting content) and also made tons of other deals for promoters (like the K-1 live broadcasting on the dutch Tv Channel SBS6) I trusted Scott with some business plans as I knew Scott from the time he was a promoter for K-1 and we all wanted to move forward in the fight business.

Scott convinced me to start working with strikeforce, we always had a better deal in Japan and Europe, but as K-1 was having a lot of difficulties and Scott giving us all the terms we wanted, we started taking steps to do more and more business with strikeforce.

The problems with Strikeforce was that we made some agreements with Scott which were creating headaches now Zuffa took over.

The fighters were paid in the previous Strikeforce bouts to an account of the management without any problems, yet UFC claimed this was impossible. Then the fighters were loosing sponsors as the UFC took over Strikeforce as they implemented their new rules. If you can sponsor the fighter you should sponsor the organization first.

I understand this from a business point of few, but some companies can’t effort to pay 100K or more to an organization. And some fighters getting 5 or 10K in sponsorship is were they actually can make some good money. We just wanted the things as they were before, but it was far from what it was before. The payment was done how the UFC wanted and again we agreed and did the same as in Vancouver, so that matter was solved , so I do not understand why Dana claims we did not agree?

We did not have a choice and never said we would not fight in the future or that we would refuse to work like this in the future (we worked out that problem with the Zuffa lawyer in the Vancouver and even agreed with their new sponsor policies). Maybe there is a miscommunication and Danna was not well informed that the direct payment issue was solved and no longer an issue as I myself have been in and out hospital for two weeks because of heath issues ( the reason why this press release is so late).

Anyway we regret the response from Zuffa and the releases, but it is their company and they can do what they want, we would like to keep working in the future with the UFC and with this statement I cleary say that direct payment to any of our fighter was not a problem and will not be a problem in the future.

We just want to be able to produce great fighters and create great fights for the fans, we have no intention for Co-promotion deals and are even willing to make an exclusive deal for Alistair Overeem to fight in the UFC, if the terms are right.

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Op donderdag 11 augustus 2011 14:17 schreef Fyodor het volgende:
Verklaring van Bas Boon omtrent de hele GG/Zuffa situatie:

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Verduidelijk wel e.e.a!

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Op woensdag 10 augustus 2011 21:01 schreef n00cL30n het volgende:
Toch wel leuk om de tussenstand erbij te hebben van MMAPlayground:

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Hebben ze hier nu ook al leuke scripts en apps voor trouwens?

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Op donderdag 11 augustus 2011 23:22 schreef Fenomeno het volgende:
Muziek bij opkomsten is imo ook te zacht. Doen ze in Japan beter.

Fedor Emelianenko - PRIDE 32: "The Real Deal" Entrance

Yarennoka: Yoshihiro Akiyama vs Kazuo Misaki entrance

Alistair Overeem entrance

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Op vrijdag 12 augustus 2011 00:28 schreef Hoogstaande het volgende:
Komt er dit jaar trouwens weer een DREAM event?

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Op vrijdag 12 augustus 2011 00:32 schreef Fyodor het volgende:

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24 september, Dream.17!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream.17

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Op vrijdag 12 augustus 2011 01:32 schreef Hoogstaande het volgende:

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Nice

En komt er ook weer zo;n 3 uur durende show op oud en nieuw met allemaal van die maffe regels?

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Op vrijdag 12 augustus 2011 00:07 schreef Fyodor het volgende:

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Wat favoriete opkomsten van mij, in willekeurige volgorde:

Fedor Emelianenko - PRIDE 32: "The Real Deal" Entrance

(de muziek, speciaal voor Fedor gemaakt en zeer passend. Kippenvel elke keer als ik die muziek hoor)

Yarennoka: Yoshihiro Akiyama vs Kazuo Misaki entrance

(prachtig die haat van het Japanse publiek voor Akiyama, die zich er niets van aantrekt)

Alistair Overeem entrance

(Alistair Overeem, deze blijft ook mooi met die overgang)

Jason 'Mayhem' Miller Dream 9 Entrance

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Op vrijdag 12 augustus 2011 14:33 schreef Fenomeno het volgende:

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Jason 'Mayhem' Miller Dream 9 Entrance

blijft de beste imo

Waarom hebben die jappen eigenlijk een hekel aan Akiyama?

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Op vrijdag 12 augustus 2011 14:33 schreef Fenomeno het volgende:

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Waarom hebben die jappen eigenlijk een hekel aan Akiyama?

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Op vrijdag 12 augustus 2011 15:38 schreef dapluiz het volgende:

Jason Mayhem Miller - Dream 16 (Entrance)

Zou die dat straks tegen Bisping ook zo doen ?

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Op vrijdag 12 augustus 2011 19:29 schreef Fenomeno het volgende:
Als ie geblesseerd raakt krijgt Sergei een relatieve can

Zou wel geniaal zijn als Sergei nu in de finale komt en misschien die GP wint, zouden ze hem dan nog cutten.

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Op vrijdag 12 augustus 2011 20:09 schreef Splackavellie02 het volgende:
Wat is nu het verschil tussen een split decision en een majority decision? In beide gevallen is het toch een decision door de meerderheid (2/3) van de judges?

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Op vrijdag 12 augustus 2011 20:56 schreef THEFXR het volgende:
dus versus live 5 is maandagnacht?

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Op vrijdag 12 augustus 2011 20:56 schreef THEFXR het volgende:
dus versus live 5 is maandagnacht?

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Op vrijdag 12 augustus 2011 22:54 schreef Hooidraad het volgende:
Just a reminder: Chris Lytle has walked in the cage for 94 rounds...

_{Met dank aan onze Geo.}

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Despite exercising its right to terminate the final fight on Alistair Overeem's contract, Forza LLC, which operates Strikeforce and is a subsidiary of UFC's parent company, Zuffa LLC, has not released the Strikeforce heavyweight champion.

Bas Boon, who represents Overeem through Dutch management firm Golden Glory, clarified to ESPN.com that the 31-year-old fighter is currently "in a negotiation period with Zuffa." Boon declined to discuss details, though sources familiar with the arrangement between Overeem and Strikeforce explained the fighter is bound to exclusive and separate 120-day negotiation and matching periods with the Las Vegas-based promoter.

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In addition to the exclusive negotiation period and, if necessary, a subsequent matching timeframe, a source with knowledge of Overeem's contract said the fighter was not stripped of his Strikeforce belt and remains tied to the promotion via the so-called "champions clause," a common passage in fighter contracts that allows MMA promoters to maintain contractual rights to titleholders after their deals expire.

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Op zaterdag 13 augustus 2011 00:34 schreef Hooidraad het volgende:
Report: Alistair Overeem not released by Strikeforce or stripped of heavyweight title, in negotiations with Zuffa

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Daar gaan we weer...

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Op zaterdag 13 augustus 2011 00:34 schreef Hooidraad het volgende:
Report: Alistair Overeem not released by Strikeforce or stripped of heavyweight title, in negotiations with Zuffa

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Op zaterdag 13 augustus 2011 10:39 schreef incognitoomuch het volgende:
Ik denk dat het niet meer dan logisch zou zijn als Overeem tegen de winnaar moet. Wie zou anders op dit moment de HW belt moeten dragen?