Bin Laden gedood! #20 - Met Obama op Ground Zero.

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 09:20 schreef vanhal het volgende:
Breedbeeldlens.....

Bovendien staat ie met z'n handen in z'n zij:

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Hij heeft het jasje gewoon niet lekker aan...

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America's exceptionalist justice

Tom Wright

Consider the following scenario. A group of Irish republican terrorists carries out a bombing raid in London. People are killed and wounded. The group escapes, first to Ireland, then to the US, where they disappear into the sympathetic hinterland of a country where IRA leaders have in the past been welcomed at the White House. Britain cannot extradite them, because of the gross imbalance of the relevant treaty. So far, this seems plausible enough.

But now imagine that the British government, seeing the murderers escape justice, sends an aircraft carrier (always supposing we've still got any) to the Nova Scotia coast. From there, unannounced, two helicopters fly in under the radar to the Boston suburb where the terrorists are holed up. They carry out a daring raid, killing the (unarmed) leaders and making their escape. Westminster celebrates; Washington is furious.

What's the difference between this and the recent events in Pakistan? Answer: American exceptionalism. America is subject to different rules to the rest of the world. By what right? Who says?

Consider another fictive scenario. Gangsters are preying on a small mid-western town. The sheriff and his deputies are spineless; law and order have failed. So the hero puts on a mask, acts "extra-legally", performs the necessary redemptive violence and returns to ordinary life, earning the undying gratitude of the local townsfolk, sheriff included. This is the plot of a thousand movies, comic-book strips, and TV shows: Captain America, The Lone Ranger, and (upgraded to hi-tech) Superman. The masked hero saves the world.

Films and comics with this plot-line have been named as favourites by many presidents, as Robert Jewett and John Shelton Lawrence pointed out in The Myth of the American Superhero and Captain America and the Crusade Against Evil. The main reason President Obama has been cheered to the echo across the US, even by his bitter opponents, is not simply the fully comprehensible sense of closure a decade after the horrible, wicked actions of September 11 2001. Underneath that, he has just enacted one of America's most powerful myths.

Perhaps the myth was necessary in the days of the wild west, of isolated frontier towns and roaming gangs. But it legitimises a form of vigilantism, of taking the law into one's own hands, which provides "justice" only of the crudest sort. In the present case, the "hero" fired a lot of stray bullets in Iraq and Afghanistan before he got it right. What's more, such actions invite retaliation. They only "work" because the hero can shoot better than the villain; but the villain's friends may decide on vengeance. Proper justice is designed precisely to outflank such escalation.

Of course, proper justice is hard to come by internationally. America regularly casts the UN (and the international criminal court) as the hapless sheriff, and so continues to play the world's undercover policeman. The UK has gone along for the ride. What will we do when new superpowers arise and try the same trick on us? And what has any of this to do with something most Americans also believe, that the God of ultimate justice and truth was fully and finally revealed in the crucified Jesus of Nazareth, who taught people to love their enemies, and warned that those who take the sword will perish by the sword?

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The Agendas Behind the bin Laden News Event

by Paul Craig Roberts

The US government’s bin Laden story was so poorly crafted that it did not last 48 hours before being fundamentally altered. Indeed, the new story put out on Tuesday by White House press secretary Jay Carney bears little resemblance to the original Sunday evening story. The fierce firefight did not occur. Osama bin Laden did not hide behind a woman. Indeed, bin Laden, Carney said, "was not armed."

The firefight story was instantly suspicious as not a single SEAL got a scratch, despite being up against al Qaeda, described by former Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld as "the most dangerous, best-trained, vicious killers on the face of the earth."

Every original story detail has been changed. It wasn’t bin Laden’s wife who was murdered by the Navy SEALs, but the wife of an aide. It wasn’t bin Laden’s son, Khalid, who was murdered by the Navy SEALs, but son Hamza.

Carney blamed the changed story on "the fog of war." But there was no firefight, so where did the "fog of war" come from?

The White House has also had to abandon the story that President Obama and his national security team watched tensely as events unfolded in real time (despite the White House having released photos of the team watching tensely), with the operation conveyed into the White House by cameras on the SEALs helmets. If Obama was watching the event as it happened, he would have noticed, one would hope, that there was no firefight and, thus, would not have told the public that bin Laden was killed in a firefight. Another reason the story had to be abandoned is that if the event was captured on video, every news service in the world would be asking for the video, but if the event was orchestrated theater, there would be no video.

No explanation has been provided for why an unarmed bin Laden, in the absence of a firefight, was murdered by the SEALs with a shot to the head. For those who believe the government’s story that "we got bin Laden," the operation can only appear as the most botched operation in history. What kind of incompetence does it require to senselessly and needlessly kill the most valuable intelligence asset on the planet?

According to the US government, the terrorist movements of the world operated through bin Laden, "the mastermind." Thanks to a trigger-happy stupid SEAL, a bullet destroyed the most valuable terrorist information on the planet. Perhaps the SEAL was thinking that he could put a notch on his gun and brag for the rest of his life about being the macho tough guy who killed Osama bin Laden, the most dangerous man on the planet, who outwitted the US and its European and Israeli allies and inflicted humiliation on the "world’s only superpower" on 9/11.

When such a foundational story as the demise of bin Laden cannot last 48 hours without acknowledged "discrepancies" that require fundamental alternations to the story, there are grounds for suspicion in addition to the suspicions arising from the absence of a dead body, from the absence of any evidence that bin Laden was killed in the raid or that a raid even took place. The entire episode could just be another event like the August 4, 1964, Gulf of Tonkin event that never happened but succeeded in launching open warfare against North Vietnam at a huge cost to Americans and Vietnamese and enormous profits to the military/security complex.

There is no doubt that the US is sufficiently incompetent to have needlessly killed bin Laden instead of capturing him. But who can believe that the US would quickly dispose of the evidence that bin Laden had been terminated? The government’s story is not believable that the government dumped the proof of its success into the ocean, but has some photos that might be released, someday.

As one reader put it in an email to me: "What is really alarming is the increasingly arrogant sloppiness of these lies, as though the government has become so profoundly confident of their ability to deceive people that they make virtually no effort to even appear credible."

Governments have known from the beginning of time that they can always deceive citizens and subjects by playing the patriot card. "Remember the Maine," the "Gulf of Tonkin," "weapons of mass destruction," "the Reichstag fire" – the staged events and bogus evidence are endless. If Americans knew any history, they would not be so gullible.

The real question before us is: What agenda or agendas is the "death of bin Laden" designed to further?

There are many answers to this question. Many have noticed that Obama was facing re-election with poor approval ratings. Is anyone surprised that the New York Times/CBS Poll finds a strong rise in Obama’s poll numbers after the bin Laden raid? As the New York Times reported, "the glow of national pride" rose "above partisan politics, as support for the president rose significantly among both Republicans and independents. In all, 57 percent said they now approved of the president’s job performance, up from 46 percent."

In Washington-think, a 24% rise in approval rating justifies a staged event.

Another possibility is that Obama realized that the the budget deficit and the dollar’s rescue from collapse require the end of the expensive Afghan war and occupation and spillover war into Pakistan. As the purpose of the war was to get bin Laden, success in this objective allows the US to withdraw without loss of face, thus making it possible to reduce the US budget deficit by several hundred billion dollars annually – an easy way to have a major spending cut.

If this is the agenda, then more power to it. However, if this was Obama’s agenda, the military/security complex has quickly moved against it. CIA director Leon Panetta opened the door to false flag attacks to keep the war going by declaring that al Qaeda would avenge bin Laden’s killing. Secretary of State Clinton declared that success in killing bin Laden justified more war and more success. Homeland Security declared that the killing of bin Laden would motivate "homegrown violent extremists" into making terrorist attacks. "Homegrown violent extremists" is an undefined term, but this newly created bogyman seems to include environmentalists and war protesters. Like "suspect," the term will include anyone the government wants to pick up.

Various parts of the government quickly seized on the success in killing bin Laden to defend and advance their own agendas, such as torture. Americans were told that bin Laden was found as a result of information gleaned from torturing detainees held in Eastern European CIA secret prisons years ago.

This listing of possible agendas and add-on agendas is far from complete, but for those capable of skepticism and independent thought, it can serve as a starting point. The agendas behind the theater will reveal themselves as time goes on. All you have to do is to pay attention and to realize that most of what you hear from the mainstream media is designed to advance the agendas.

Paul Craig Roberts, a former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury and former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, has been reporting shocking cases of prosecutorial abuse for two decades. A new edition of his book, The Tyranny of Good Intentions, co-authored with Lawrence Stratton, a documented account of how Americans lost the protection of law, has been released by Random House.

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 11:34 schreef Rambolin het volgende:

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http://www.guardian.co.uk(...)/america-lone-ranger

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 11:47 schreef vanhal het volgende:

Flauw zeg, die vergelijking in het begin van dit artikel.
Hebben wij ook niet een helicopter naar Lybie gestuurd om daar 1 persoon te evacueren?

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 11:47 schreef Rambolin het volgende:

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Iemand evacueren is vergelijkbaar met iemand doden?

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 09:06 schreef Knipoogje het volgende:
Het AD had nog wat foto's uit die conference room, maar ik snap geen jota van de verhouding. WTF heeft Obama aan? Een blauwe cape die overal overheen is gedrapeerd Heeft ie extreem brede schouders met een smal hoofdje?

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 02:00 schreef maartena het volgende:

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Nee, ik vind vragen niet vreemd. En ik hoop ook nog steeds dat ze uiteindelijk de foto's en video van de zeebegrafenis vrijgeven.

Maar ik geloof het verhaal van de Amerikanen wel.... zeker aangezien het bevestigd wordt door Pakistan, door media in de gehele wereld, inclusief de Nederlandse, en van wat er door de overlevenden is verteld.

En ik heb er verder ook geen problemen mee. Sommigen hebben er problemen mee dat hij niet is berecht, etc.... maar ik heb in dit geval geen enkel probleem met een ordinaire afrekening.

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 11:57 schreef Zith het volgende:

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Alle foto's staan op Obama's persoonlijke flickrpagina

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 11:48 schreef Rambolin het volgende:
10 Facts That Prove The Bin Laden Fable Is a Contrived Hoax
http://www.infowars.com/1(...)is-a-contrived-hoax/

Poll Reveals Most Mistrust Bin Laden Assassination Story
http://www.infowars.com/p(...)assassination-story/

War on Terror is a Reichstag Fire False Flag Operation
http://www.infowars.com/w(...)alse-flag-operation/

Pakistan says it knew of U.S. raid after it began
http://www.infowars.com/p(...)raid-after-it-began/

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 13:33 schreef sp3c het volgende:
ja allemaal leuk en aardig maar ik heb nog geen aanneembare verklaring gehoord voor al de geheimzinnigheid

ja bin laden is dood, beelden zijn er niet/zijn afschuwelijk/zorgen voor rellen en het lijk is er ook niet meer

move along

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 13:32 schreef raptorix het volgende:
Tjah als je er 3 jaar over doet om het uitgebreide certificaat te tonen, dan roep je het over je af.

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 13:38 schreef Sander het volgende:

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Pfffff alsof dat uitmaakt. Blijft een conspiracy, onder idioten en republikeinen

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 13:28 schreef Sander het volgende:
"But President Barack Obama seems to have realized what many social scientists have known for years: that no evidence in the world would convince certain people that a U.S. Navy SEAL unit killed bin Laden at his compound in Abbattabad, Pakistan, and buried him at sea. Much in the same way, a certain percentage of Americans will never believe Obama was born in the United States, no matter how many long-form birth certificates are released.But President Barack Obama seems to have realized what many social scientists have known for years: that no evidence in the world would convince certain people that a U.S. Navy SEAL unit killed bin Laden at his compound in Abbattabad, Pakistan, and buried him at sea. Much in the same way, a certain percentage of Americans will never believe Obama was born in the United States, no matter how many long-form birth certificates are released."

http://extragoodshit.phlap.net/?p=127706

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 13:35 schreef HyperViper het volgende:

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Wat dacht je van globalisering?

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 14:10 schreef sp3c het volgende:

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niets relevants volgens mij ... hoezo?

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 15:17 schreef zoefbust het volgende:
Report: U.S. got green light from Pakistan 10 years ago for a raid on bin Laden

http://content.usatoday.c(...)raid-on-bin-laden-/1

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Bin Laden's (Fictional) Mountain Fortress
Over at political discussion website Democratic Underground, user NNN0LHI has descended into the depths of the internet, unearthing a gem of an article from the on-the-whole-incomprehensible website of Edward Jay Epstein ("To enhance its labyrinthical concept, " the home page explains, "it contains no site map").

Epstein's piece on "The Lair of Bin Laden" is a real blast from the past. Check out, for instance, this amazing graphic from the Times of London, published in 2001 and depicting the Qaeda leader's presumed "mountain fortress"

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 16:17 schreef Aether het volgende:

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 16:17 schreef Aether het volgende:

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 16:17 schreef Aether het volgende:

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Bin Ladens Cave according to Rumsfeld

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 20:48 schreef Montov het volgende:

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Nog een terugblik:
Osama bin Laden omsingeld.

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 13:32 schreef raptorix het volgende:
Tjah als je er 3 jaar over doet om het uitgebreide certificaat te tonen, dan roep je het over je af.

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 21:03 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

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Damn! 2004 Ik word te oud voor deze onzin.

Het goede nieuws is dat ik iig consistent ben.

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Op dinsdag 10 mei 2011 22:33 schreef Montov het volgende:
Hier nog een pareltje uit 2001:
Osama wordt vermoedelijk vannacht gepakt.

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De CIA heeft de commissies Inlichtingendiensten en Verdediging van de Amerikaanse Senaat dinsdag geïnformeerd dat zij foto's van de dode Osama Bin Laden mogen zien. De senatoren kunnen daarvoor een afspraak bij de geheime dienst maken.

President Barack Obama had vorige week beslist dat het publiek de foto's van de dode terroristenleider niet te zien krijgt. Het staatshoofd vreest dat publicatie geweld kan uitlokken en al-Qaeda een propagandamiddel in handen geeft.

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Op woensdag 11 mei 2011 00:39 schreef Piet_Piraat het volgende:
Waar blijven die aanslagen?

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One police officer dead in suicide bombing in Russia’s North Caucasus
10 MAY 2011 DAGESTAN, RUSSIA (BNO NEWS) -- A suicide bombing on Tuesday killed one police officer and injured another in Dagestan in the volatile Russia's North Caucasus region, RIA Novosti reported.

A young man was walking towards the police headquarters in Dagestan's capital city, Makhachkala. Before reaching his destination, a police officer detained him in order to check his documents.

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Op woensdag 11 mei 2011 01:01 schreef Piet_Piraat het volgende:

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Da's dagelijkse kost daar en heeft NIKS met Osama te maken.