NWS Nieuws & Achtergronden
Discussieer hier diepgaander over de actualiteiten.
tnx vriend.quote:Op vrijdag 8 april 2011 15:59 schreef MartijnA3 het volgende:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spent_fuel_pool
(ik wist toch echt zeker dat ik ergens 2 jaar gelezen heb in de nieuwsberichten.
ik dacht namelijk dat het na 2 jaar wel zodanig was afgekoeld dat het in een afvalopslag kon worden neergezet.
ik had er voor fuku eigenlijk nooit veel over gehoord, terwijl ik me toch al een tijdje bezig heb gehouden op fok over kerncentrales.
nu blijkt dus dat die opslagzwembaden een enorme toevoeging zijn aan de onveiligheid vd centrales terwijl ik vrijwel zeker weet dat het grote publiek hier amper vanop de hoogte is gesteld.
overigens las ik aardig bericht op teletekst, duitsland is 200 tennisballen plutonium kwijt.
wacht op de edit, mss vind ik het nog wel.
megalomaniac
Post dan niets als je geen energie hebt om iets uit te zoeken, het is hier niet de telegraaf toch.quote:
http://www.demorgen.be/dm(...)menten-vermist.dhtmlquote:
In Duitsland heerst verwarring over het lot van enkele duizenden brandstofelementen die tussen 1967 en 1988 werden gebruikt in een nucleaire onderzoekreactor in Jülich, zo'n 30 kilometer van Aken. Volgens weekblad Der Spiegel zijn de kogels radioactief materiaal ter grootte van tennisballen verdwenen.
dat is die rampenplannen kerncentrale AVR volgens mij.
lees en huiver:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVR_reactorquote:
Concerning beta-contamination AVR is the highest contaminated nuclear installation worldwide as AVR management confirmed 2001
en dan zijn er nog steeds mensen hier die beweren dat deze vorm van pebble bed centrales veel veiliger zijn.
let vooral op het gedeelte waar het publiek gewoon glashard wordt voorgelogen door de kernlobby.
en dat staat dan een paar kilometer vanaf de nederlandse grens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w(...)_Temperature_Reactorquote:
In spite of the limited amount of radioactivity released (0.1 GBq Co60, Cs137, Pa233), the THTR management tried to hide the accident, probably because this accident pointed to some specific problems of pebble bed reactors, i.e. pebble flow and radioactive dust. The management probably expected that the emission might not be detected due to the Chernobyl fallout happening just in the same time. However a whistle-blower informed authorities and public. The THTR management continued to charge the Chernobyl fallout for all the contamination in the surrounding, until the presence of Pa-233 in the vicinity of the THTR-300 was detected: Pa233 is not formed in Uranium reactors as Chernobyl, but only in thorium reactors. Thus, step by step, the THTR management reported the whole truth.
dit kan echt niet.
megalomaniac
loop niet te ouwehoeren man, ik zit niet alleen op fok om hier hele studies te volgen hoor.quote:
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Post dan niets als je geen energie hebt om iets uit te zoeken, het is hier niet de telegraaf toch.
ga anders lekker op wetenschap je kennis ten toon spreiden.
(ik lees het later wel na, die link van jou)
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megalomaniac
Dan mag jij naar ONZ met je sensatiezoekerij.quote:
ga anders lekker op wetenschap je kennis ten toon spreiden.
jij bent zeker een neutronprootje ?quote:
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Dan mag jij naar ONZ met je sensatiezoekerij.
laat zien waar het sensatie is wat ik vanmiddag naar voren heb gebracht ?
megalomaniac
jaja, het wordt allemaal nog erger deze ramp!quote:
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jij bent zeker een neutronprootje ?
laat zien waar het sensatie is wat ik vanmiddag naar voren heb gebracht ?
een miljoen doden, gaan we makkelijk halen.
optimistquote:
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jaja, het wordt allemaal nog erger deze ramp!
een miljoen doden, gaan we makkelijk halen.
There is only one religion
Very small traces of radioactive iodine travel to Pakistan
ISLAMABAD, April 8, Kyodo
Pakistan has found ''very small traces of airborne radioactive iodine'' believed to have originated from the crisis-hit Fukushima nuclear power plant in Japan, the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission said Friday.
However, it said that the radiation reaching Pakistan is extremely diluted because of the distance from Japan and air mixing along the path.
''The amount of radioactive iodine detected in Pakistan are tiny and billions of times lower that could be of any consequence to public health or environment. Therefore no precautionary measure of any kind is needed,'' the commission said in a press release.
==Kyodo
ISLAMABAD, April 8, Kyodo
Pakistan has found ''very small traces of airborne radioactive iodine'' believed to have originated from the crisis-hit Fukushima nuclear power plant in Japan, the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission said Friday.
However, it said that the radiation reaching Pakistan is extremely diluted because of the distance from Japan and air mixing along the path.
''The amount of radioactive iodine detected in Pakistan are tiny and billions of times lower that could be of any consequence to public health or environment. Therefore no precautionary measure of any kind is needed,'' the commission said in a press release.
==Kyodo
There is only one religion
Voor degene die schoon genoeg hebben van kernenergie,
http://www.schoongenoegvankernenergie.nl/ Teken de petitie
Kernenergie past niet in een schone toekomst. Het is onveilig, duur en zadelt ons 240.000 jaar op met levensgevaarlijk afval. Daarom roep ik het kabinet op geen vergunning te geven voor nieuwe kerncentrales in Nederland. Er zijn meer dan genoeg schone alternatieven, dus het licht in Nederland kan gewoon blijven branden.
http://www.schoongenoegvankernenergie.nl/ Teken de petitie
Kernenergie past niet in een schone toekomst. Het is onveilig, duur en zadelt ons 240.000 jaar op met levensgevaarlijk afval. Daarom roep ik het kabinet op geen vergunning te geven voor nieuwe kerncentrales in Nederland. Er zijn meer dan genoeg schone alternatieven, dus het licht in Nederland kan gewoon blijven branden.
There is only one religion
Geen kernenergie is 1000/2000¤ extra kosten per gezin per jaar. En wil je mensen hun chemokuur ook door de neus boren.quote:Op vrijdag 8 april 2011 21:53 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:
Voor degene die lang niet genoeg hebben van kernenergie,
http://www.schoongenoegvanantikernenergiehippies.nl/ Teken de petitie
Kernenergie past in een schone toekomst. Het is veilig, niet duur en zadelt ons maar 240.000 jaar op met ongevaarlijk afval en tegen die tijd ben je toch al dood . Dus daarom roep ik het kabinet op vergunning te geven voor nieuwe kerncentrales in Nederland. Er zijn minder schone alternatieven, dus het licht in Nederland kan gewoon blijven branden.
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Oorlog is vrede
Vrijheid is slavernij
Onwetendheid is kracht
-George Orwell
Vrijheid is slavernij
Onwetendheid is kracht
-George Orwell
quote:
Op vrijdag 8 april 2011 21:53 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:
Voor degene die lang niet genoeg hebben van kernenergie,
http://www.schoongenoegvanantikernenergiehippies.nl/ Teken de petitie
Kernenergie past in een schone toekomst. Het is veilig, niet duur en zadelt ons maar 240.000 jaar op met ongevaarlijk afval en tegen die tijd ben je toch al dood . Dus daarom roep ik het kabinet op vergunning te geven voor nieuwe kerncentrales in Nederland. Er zijn minder schone alternatieven, dus het licht in Nederland kan gewoon blijven branden.
Op vrijdag 8 april 2011 21:53 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:
Voor degene die lang niet genoeg hebben van kernenergie,
http://www.schoongenoegvanantikernenergiehippies.nl/ Teken de petitie
Kernenergie past in een schone toekomst. Het is veilig, niet duur en zadelt ons maar 240.000 jaar op met ongevaarlijk afval en tegen die tijd ben je toch al dood . Dus daarom roep ik het kabinet op vergunning te geven voor nieuwe kerncentrales in Nederland. Er zijn minder schone alternatieven, dus het licht in Nederland kan gewoon blijven branden.
There is only one religion
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jaja, het wordt allemaal nog erger deze ramp!
een miljoen doden, gaan we makkelijk halen.
heb ik nergens geschreven hoor.
megalomaniac
berekening graag, iedereen kan hier wel wat gaan roepen.quote:
Geen kernenergie is 1000/2000¤ extra kosten per gezin per jaar. En wil je mensen hun chemokuur ook door de neus boren.
overigens, laat maar gaan ook, daar is ander topic voor.
mbt de chemokuur, de oorzaken van kanker moeten eens goed onderzocht worden, dan kom je al snel bij de chemische revolutie van de 20e eeuw terecht.
megalomaniac
Chemotherapie is met chemische middelen. Je bedoelt radiotherapie of bestraling.quote:
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En wil je mensen hun chemokuur ook door de neus boren.
De isotopen daarvoor kun je op andere manieren verkrijgen. Je kunt zelfs speciale reactors bouwen alleen voor dat doel. Zonder dat er grote hoeveelheden energie en warmte vrijkomen en dus zonder alle risico's van een kernenergiecentrale.
De nucleaire industrie heeft hard haar best gedaan om toepassingen voor bijproducten en afval te vinden. Fluoride is een bijproduct van uraniumverrijking. Met name de nucleaire industrie heeft hard campagne gevoerd om overal fluoride in te stoppen. In de VS en een aantal andere landen zit het zelfs in het drinkwater. Briljant. Van een giftig bijproduct naar een winstgevende grondstof.
Idem met het verarmd uranium. Dat wat je overhoudt na verrijking. Het is licht radioactief en een erg giftig metaal, vooral na oxidatie. Onmogelijk bijvoorbeeld in de bouw te gebruiken. Toen kwam iemand om het idee het voor munitie te gebruiken. Een zwaar metaal dat op inslag reageert met zuurstof (=hitte), ideaal om dingen mee kapot te maken. Na een jaar of tien zwaar lobbyen werd DU een nieuwe grondstof voor munitie. Ka-ching! Van nucleair afval naar iets wat je aan de wapenindustrie kun verkopen.
De zogenaamde onmisbaarheid is geforceerd, is verzonnen. Het is slechts een slimme en vooral gewetenloze manier om geld te verdienen aan alle rotzooi van de nucleaire industrie.
het moet onderzocht worden maar jij hebt je conclusie voor een onderzoek al klaar. Er zijn wel wat mummies gevonden met kanker.quote:Op zaterdag 9 april 2011 07:40 schreef kitao het volgende:
mbt de chemokuur, de oorzaken van kanker moeten eens goed onderzocht worden, dan kom je al snel bij de chemische revolutie van de 20e eeuw terecht.
om maar even terug te keren naar de ontwikkelingen van vandaag, en viel niet eens mee wat noemenswaardig nieuws te vinden, ook dit onderwerp verdwijnt langzaam maar zeker vd radar.
http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201104080169.html
Bodemmonsters 4x !! zo hoog als in Tjernobyl !
Cesium-137 gevonden buiten de 30 km-zone met 2.200.000 Bq/cm3 !
en niemand die ze helpt te evacueren...
volledig artikel:quote:
High radiation levels found beyond 30-km radius
A study of soil samples has revealed that as much as 400 times the normal levels of radiation could remain in communities beyond a 30-kilometer radius from the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, where explosions spewed radioactive materials into the atmosphere.
The study was conducted by a team of experts from Kyoto University and Hiroshima University.
According to the study, the accumulated amount of radiation in the soil at Iitate, Fukushima Prefecture--which is located outside of the 30-km radius--calculated over a three-month period would exceed the annual accumulated amount of 20 millisieverts that the central government is considering as a guideline for evacuating residents.
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Tetsuji Imanaka, an associate professor of nuclear engineering at the Kyoto University Research Reactor Institute, Satoru Endo, an associate professor of radiation physics at Hiroshima University, and other experts visited Iitate in late March. They collected soil samples[...]
The study found cesium-137 at levels between about 590,000 and 2.19 million becquerels per cubic meter. After the Chernobyl nuclear accident in the former Soviet Union in 1986, residents who lived in areas where cesium-137 levels exceeded 555,000 becquerels were forced to move elsewhere.
According to a report by the International Atomic Energy Agency, the total land area from where residents were forced to move was about 10,000 square kilometers, about the land area of Gifu Prefecture. A total of about 270,000 residents were subject to the forced move.
The amounts of cesium-137 found in Iitate were at most four times the figure from Chernobyl.
If more radioactive materials are emitted from the crippled Fukushima plant, the level of cesium-137 could rise even further.
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http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201104080169.html
Bodemmonsters 4x !! zo hoog als in Tjernobyl !
Cesium-137 gevonden buiten de 30 km-zone met 2.200.000 Bq/cm3 !
en niemand die ze helpt te evacueren...
megalomaniac
niet hatelijk worden, ik heb nergens geschreven dat dit een eindrapport betreft.quote:
het moet onderzocht worden maar jij hebt je conclusie voor een onderzoek al klaar. Er zijn wel wat mummies gevonden met kanker.
toch kunnen er wel verbanden worden aangetroffen tussen chemische middelen en kankerverhoging bij de bevolking en bij dieren.
ik sluit een clipje bij, want moet zo weg en wou het dan erbij laten anders gaat het teveel off-topic vind ik.
wacht op de edit, dan zoek ik t even op.
edit: is wel een lange clip van 22 minuten, vanaf minuut 7 t/m minuut 13 hoor je dus wat ik in gedachten had.
staat overigens veel meer schokkende zaken in die serie van 23 clips vermeld.
![THE CORPORATION [5/23] Case Histories](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/H3m5lq9FHDo/default.jpg)
overigens deze clip is wel on-topic mbt Tepco
(45 sec)
![THE CORPORATION [6/23] The Pathology of Commerce](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/s5hEiANG4Uk/default.jpg)
psychopatische criminelen zijn het.
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megalomaniac
TEPCO begins building steel wall, fence to prevent sea contamination
TOKYO, April 9, Kyodo
The operator of a crippled Fukushima nuclear power station started Saturday to install a steel wall and fence to prevent more water containing radioactive substances from seeping into the Pacific Ocean.
Tokyo Electric Power Co. plans to plug a seawater intake connected to the No. 2 reactor of the Fukushima Daiichi complex with seven steel sheets and a 120-meter-wide curtain-like fence near the intake and two other locations nearby.
The company already stopped the leakage of water contaminated with radioactive materials from near the intake Wednesday. But it went with the construction of the steel sheet wall and the so-called silt fence to allay environmental concerns that have been raised domestically and internationally.
Radioactive iodine reading was 63,000 times the legal limit in seawater near the intake a day after contaminated water stopped leaking into the sea.
Along with efforts to stop the leakage of toxic water, TEPCO also released about 9,000 tons of water containing relatively low-level radioactive materials into the Pacific, saying the massive amount of such water in the premises slowed the work to get the plant under control.
==Kyodo
TOKYO, April 9, Kyodo
The operator of a crippled Fukushima nuclear power station started Saturday to install a steel wall and fence to prevent more water containing radioactive substances from seeping into the Pacific Ocean.
Tokyo Electric Power Co. plans to plug a seawater intake connected to the No. 2 reactor of the Fukushima Daiichi complex with seven steel sheets and a 120-meter-wide curtain-like fence near the intake and two other locations nearby.
The company already stopped the leakage of water contaminated with radioactive materials from near the intake Wednesday. But it went with the construction of the steel sheet wall and the so-called silt fence to allay environmental concerns that have been raised domestically and internationally.
Radioactive iodine reading was 63,000 times the legal limit in seawater near the intake a day after contaminated water stopped leaking into the sea.
Along with efforts to stop the leakage of toxic water, TEPCO also released about 9,000 tons of water containing relatively low-level radioactive materials into the Pacific, saying the massive amount of such water in the premises slowed the work to get the plant under control.
==Kyodo
There is only one religion
Workers begin installing enclosures to prevent sea contamination
TOKYO, April 9, Kyodo
Workers trying to stabilize a crippled nuclear power plant started Saturday to install enclosing materials in the sea just outside the facility to prevent radioactive water from spreading further into the Pacific Ocean.
Economy, Trade and Industry Minister Banri Kaieda, meanwhile, met with Fukushima Gov. Yuhei Sato in the city of Fukushima, Fukushima Prefecture, in the morning, and plans to visit the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station later in the day.
The visit, aimed at encouraging those engaged in stabilization efforts and checking on the plant's damaged reactors, would be the first by a Cabinet minister after the six-reactor plant was rocked by explosions and began spewing radioactive materials in mid-March.
The plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power Co., plans to enclose a seawater intake for the No. 2 reactor at the plant with seven steel sheets and a 120-meter-wide ''silt curtain'' near the intake and two other locations nearby.
The power supplier stopped the leakage of water contaminated with radioactive materials from near the intake on Wednesday. But facing mounting environmental concerns, it hopes that the installation will help prevent contaminated water from spreading outside the plant's bay.
The radioactive iodine reading was 63,000 times the legal limit in seawater near the intake a day after contaminated water stopped leaking into the sea.
Along with the efforts to stop the leakage, the utility also released about 9,000 tons of water containing relatively low-level radioactive materials into the sea to free up room to pool contaminated water that has flooded the No. 2 reactor's turbine building and a tunnel outside it.
The company, known as TEPCO, also continued to pump nitrogen, an inert gas, into the No. 1 reactor to prevent hydrogen from exploding, while enhancing the purity of the gas to reduce the amount of oxygen mixed in it.
TEPCO said it will fly a small unmanned helicopter to survey the plant, possibly starting on Sunday, depending on the weather. The drone is expected to capture images of damaged installations at the Nos. 1 to 4 reactors that workers would find it hard to approach due to elevated levels of radiation.
During a meeting with Governor Sato, industry minister Kaieda inquired about what local residents' requests are as the government has directed those living within a 20-kilometer radius of the plant to evacuate to ensure their safety.
Speaking to reporters after the meeting, Kaieda, whose ministry promotes and regulates the nuclear industry, said the situation was far from being brought under control and expressed his resolve to contain it as soon as possible.
On the nation's atomic energy policy, he said, ''While I can't say at this point, we need to review standards to enhance safety.''
Also Saturday, the government's nuclear safety agency called on the nation's power suppliers to have at least two backup diesel generators on standby even when a reactor is in a stable condition called ''cold shutdown'' or undergoing fuel replacement.
The move came after all three diesel generators failed to function at the Higashidori nuclear power plant in Aomori Prefecture at one point following the 7.1-magnitude aftershock late Thursday of the March 11 deadly earthquake.
The agency's previous rule that required the suppliers to have just one diesel generator on standby in situations including cold shutdown was ''not enough, I must say,'' Hidehiko Nishiyama, a spokesman for the Nuclear and Industry Safety Agency, said at a news conference.
The nuclear crisis erupted after last month's 9.0-magnitude earthquake and tsunami knocked out external power supplies and backup generators for cooling systems at the Fukushima Daiichi plant and allowed reactors there to overheat.
Nishiyama also displayed candor about the missteps and failures that precipitated the disaster, saying, ''We had said all along that (nuclear power) was absolutely secure thanks to its multiple layers of protection and five-layer barriers, and I believed this, but we brought this situation onto ourselves.''
''We need to review everything to ensure safety, regardless of precedents,'' he said.
==Kyodo
TOKYO, April 9, Kyodo
Workers trying to stabilize a crippled nuclear power plant started Saturday to install enclosing materials in the sea just outside the facility to prevent radioactive water from spreading further into the Pacific Ocean.
Economy, Trade and Industry Minister Banri Kaieda, meanwhile, met with Fukushima Gov. Yuhei Sato in the city of Fukushima, Fukushima Prefecture, in the morning, and plans to visit the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station later in the day.
The visit, aimed at encouraging those engaged in stabilization efforts and checking on the plant's damaged reactors, would be the first by a Cabinet minister after the six-reactor plant was rocked by explosions and began spewing radioactive materials in mid-March.
The plant's operator, Tokyo Electric Power Co., plans to enclose a seawater intake for the No. 2 reactor at the plant with seven steel sheets and a 120-meter-wide ''silt curtain'' near the intake and two other locations nearby.
The power supplier stopped the leakage of water contaminated with radioactive materials from near the intake on Wednesday. But facing mounting environmental concerns, it hopes that the installation will help prevent contaminated water from spreading outside the plant's bay.
The radioactive iodine reading was 63,000 times the legal limit in seawater near the intake a day after contaminated water stopped leaking into the sea.
Along with the efforts to stop the leakage, the utility also released about 9,000 tons of water containing relatively low-level radioactive materials into the sea to free up room to pool contaminated water that has flooded the No. 2 reactor's turbine building and a tunnel outside it.
The company, known as TEPCO, also continued to pump nitrogen, an inert gas, into the No. 1 reactor to prevent hydrogen from exploding, while enhancing the purity of the gas to reduce the amount of oxygen mixed in it.
TEPCO said it will fly a small unmanned helicopter to survey the plant, possibly starting on Sunday, depending on the weather. The drone is expected to capture images of damaged installations at the Nos. 1 to 4 reactors that workers would find it hard to approach due to elevated levels of radiation.
During a meeting with Governor Sato, industry minister Kaieda inquired about what local residents' requests are as the government has directed those living within a 20-kilometer radius of the plant to evacuate to ensure their safety.
Speaking to reporters after the meeting, Kaieda, whose ministry promotes and regulates the nuclear industry, said the situation was far from being brought under control and expressed his resolve to contain it as soon as possible.
On the nation's atomic energy policy, he said, ''While I can't say at this point, we need to review standards to enhance safety.''
Also Saturday, the government's nuclear safety agency called on the nation's power suppliers to have at least two backup diesel generators on standby even when a reactor is in a stable condition called ''cold shutdown'' or undergoing fuel replacement.
The move came after all three diesel generators failed to function at the Higashidori nuclear power plant in Aomori Prefecture at one point following the 7.1-magnitude aftershock late Thursday of the March 11 deadly earthquake.
The agency's previous rule that required the suppliers to have just one diesel generator on standby in situations including cold shutdown was ''not enough, I must say,'' Hidehiko Nishiyama, a spokesman for the Nuclear and Industry Safety Agency, said at a news conference.
The nuclear crisis erupted after last month's 9.0-magnitude earthquake and tsunami knocked out external power supplies and backup generators for cooling systems at the Fukushima Daiichi plant and allowed reactors there to overheat.
Nishiyama also displayed candor about the missteps and failures that precipitated the disaster, saying, ''We had said all along that (nuclear power) was absolutely secure thanks to its multiple layers of protection and five-layer barriers, and I believed this, but we brought this situation onto ourselves.''
''We need to review everything to ensure safety, regardless of precedents,'' he said.
==Kyodo
There is only one religion
Nog even Dance99, dan zijn wij en een handjevol anderen de enige nog hier en is deze kernramp totaal vergeten.
bussiness as usual.
maar ondertussen worden we gewoon langzaam vergiftigd net als de Ieren.
http://www.thejournal.ie/(...)ples-116789-May2011/
bussiness as usual.
maar ondertussen worden we gewoon langzaam vergiftigd net als de Ieren.
volledig art. :quote:
Fukushima radiation now present in Irish milk samples
RADIOACTIVE IODINE leaking from the Fukushima I nuclear plant has been found in three Irish milk samples, the nation’s food standards authority confirmed this evening.
The Food Safety Authority of Ireland said tests carried out by the national radiological institute had confirmed trace levels of iodine-131, a radioactive isotope, in three individual samples.
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http://www.thejournal.ie/(...)ples-116789-May2011/
megalomaniac
Doen jullie snel dan de aluminium hoedjes op? En om dat te voorkomen zou je nog jodium tabletten ergens op de kop kunnen tikken.
Mijn subjectieve gevoel zegt me dat je door je paranoïde gedrag statistsch meer tijd van je levensduur verliest als dit minimale beetje straling in Ierland.
Mijn subjectieve gevoel zegt me dat je door je paranoïde gedrag statistsch meer tijd van je levensduur verliest als dit minimale beetje straling in Ierland.
Doe je het weer, sensatiezoeker.quote:
maar ondertussen worden we gewoon langzaam vergiftigd net als de Ieren.
http://www.thejournal.ie/(...)ples-116789-May2011/
quote:Consumers should have absolutely no concerns in relation to this finding. A person would have to drink some 96,000 litres of milk with Iodine-131 at current levels to exceed the annual safe limit set to protect consumers, he said.
Interesssant model over de verspreiding van vervuild water:
http://iprc.soest.hawaii.(...)11_Japan_tsunami.gif
Gaat lekker zo, eerst corexit, nu radioactief materiaal.
http://iprc.soest.hawaii.(...)11_Japan_tsunami.gif
Gaat lekker zo, eerst corexit, nu radioactief materiaal.
straling is altijd opbouwend, het is niet zo dat het jaarlijks gereset wordt!quote:
Doen jullie snel dan de aluminium hoedjes op? En om dat te voorkomen zou je nog jodium tabletten ergens op de kop kunnen tikken.
Mijn subjectieve gevoel zegt me dat je door je paranoïde gedrag statistsch meer tijd van je levensduur verliest als dit minimale beetje straling in Ierland.
en het is in NL ook, alleen wordt daar niet over bericht.
hahaha, ik wist t wel.quote:
maar lees je goed dan staat er in mijn quote gewoon vermeld : TRACES.
plus dat er onder staat : VOOR HET VOLLEDIGE ARTIKEL ZIE....
maar vergeet niet, radioactieve stoffen worden geaccumuleerd in een heel leven, bovendien laat het duidelijk zien dat de kernramp ver internationaal overschrijdend is, het is duidelijk een mondiale vervuiling.
en waarom reageer je niet op die 2 miljoen cesium ?!
megalomaniac
TEPCO contractors reject higher radiation dose limit for workers
TOKYO, April 9, Kyodo
Companies dispatching workers to Tokyo Electric Power Co.'s crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant are refusing to adopt the government-imposed provisional limit on radiation exposure for those workers at the plant, saying it would not be accepted by those at the site, Kyodo News learned Saturday.
The limit was lifted from 100 millisieverts to 250 millisieverts in an announcement made March 15 by the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare at the request of the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry, which has the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency under its wing, and other bodies.
The increase was requested to enable workers to engage in longer hours of assignments and to secure more workers who meet the restriction.
The advisability of the hastily decided limit may be called into question as workers have to handle a wider range of work over an extended period of time. They are now faced with tasks such as removing rubble and disposing of contaminated water in addition to their initial job of restoring the lost power sources at the plant that was crippled by the March 11 quake and tsunami.
The contract companies say they are sticking to the previous limit.
The health ministry said, ''Based on medical expertise, a maximum limit has been adopted that would not cause health damage such as a temporary decline in white blood cell count.'' The ministry's decision was made after consulting with the science ministry's advisory body Radiation Council.
The ministry said it referenced a view of the International Commission on Radiological Protection that sets the upper limit in an emergency situation to a dose of 500-1,000 millisieverts.
The limit was upheld at 100 millisieverts when Japan was faced with a serious accident at a nuclear fuel processing plant in 1999 in Tokaimura, Ibaraki Prefecture.
According to Tokyo Electric, 21 workers were exposed to a cumulative dose of more than 100 millisieverts as of April 1. On March 24, three workers from Kandenko Co. and a subcontractor were exposed to high doses of radiation during their work at a building close to a reactor, making employers of plant workers nervous.
A public relations officer at Kandenko, a TEPCO affiliate, said, ''Those at work sites would not agree to accept a suddenly lifted'' limit. The three in question were exposed to 173-180 millisieverts and two of them suffered burns to their feet.
''We have to be prudent. Considering safety, we will maintain the 100 millisievert limit,'' the officer said.
An official at Tokyo Energy & Systems Inc., a TEPCO subsidiary, said, ''The control target rate at the site is 100 millisieverts. In practice, we have set a limit lower at 80 millisieverts to make room for controlling radiation exposure.''
Construction companies Kajima Corp. and Taisei Corp. have also adopted 100 millisieverts as their yardsticks.
Hitachi Ltd. has adopted ''200 millisieverts under an in-house regulation,'' a public relations official said.
TEPCO has been going along with the higher limit. Just days ago, however, it was disclosed that not all its workers were equipped with radiation monitors due to shortages of units with alarms.
==Kyodo
TOKYO, April 9, Kyodo
Companies dispatching workers to Tokyo Electric Power Co.'s crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant are refusing to adopt the government-imposed provisional limit on radiation exposure for those workers at the plant, saying it would not be accepted by those at the site, Kyodo News learned Saturday.
The limit was lifted from 100 millisieverts to 250 millisieverts in an announcement made March 15 by the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare at the request of the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry, which has the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency under its wing, and other bodies.
The increase was requested to enable workers to engage in longer hours of assignments and to secure more workers who meet the restriction.
The advisability of the hastily decided limit may be called into question as workers have to handle a wider range of work over an extended period of time. They are now faced with tasks such as removing rubble and disposing of contaminated water in addition to their initial job of restoring the lost power sources at the plant that was crippled by the March 11 quake and tsunami.
The contract companies say they are sticking to the previous limit.
The health ministry said, ''Based on medical expertise, a maximum limit has been adopted that would not cause health damage such as a temporary decline in white blood cell count.'' The ministry's decision was made after consulting with the science ministry's advisory body Radiation Council.
The ministry said it referenced a view of the International Commission on Radiological Protection that sets the upper limit in an emergency situation to a dose of 500-1,000 millisieverts.
The limit was upheld at 100 millisieverts when Japan was faced with a serious accident at a nuclear fuel processing plant in 1999 in Tokaimura, Ibaraki Prefecture.
According to Tokyo Electric, 21 workers were exposed to a cumulative dose of more than 100 millisieverts as of April 1. On March 24, three workers from Kandenko Co. and a subcontractor were exposed to high doses of radiation during their work at a building close to a reactor, making employers of plant workers nervous.
A public relations officer at Kandenko, a TEPCO affiliate, said, ''Those at work sites would not agree to accept a suddenly lifted'' limit. The three in question were exposed to 173-180 millisieverts and two of them suffered burns to their feet.
''We have to be prudent. Considering safety, we will maintain the 100 millisievert limit,'' the officer said.
An official at Tokyo Energy & Systems Inc., a TEPCO subsidiary, said, ''The control target rate at the site is 100 millisieverts. In practice, we have set a limit lower at 80 millisieverts to make room for controlling radiation exposure.''
Construction companies Kajima Corp. and Taisei Corp. have also adopted 100 millisieverts as their yardsticks.
Hitachi Ltd. has adopted ''200 millisieverts under an in-house regulation,'' a public relations official said.
TEPCO has been going along with the higher limit. Just days ago, however, it was disclosed that not all its workers were equipped with radiation monitors due to shortages of units with alarms.
==Kyodo
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U.S. Marine team conducts drill to prepare for nuke disaster
TOKYO, April 9, Kyodo
A U.S. Marine team versed in radiological disaster response conducted a drill Saturday at Yokota Air Base in Tokyo to prepare to assist Japan upon request in dealing with its worst nuclear crisis continuing at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.
All 145 Marines of the Chemical Biological Incident Response Force's
Initial Response Force who arrived in Japan earlier this month took part in the drill along with six troops from a Japanese Ground Self-Defense Force team capable of dealing with nuclear, biological and chemical attacks.
The drill, which was open to the press, was conducted under the assumption of a nuclear disaster and included rescue and decontamination for people exposed to radiation.
Marines wearing special protective suits and masks trained to rescue an injured person by using a stretcher slung over from the top of a building, an ability the SDF lacks, according to GSDF officers.
They also trained for removing radioactive substances by water at a large tent. With the method, 600 people can be decontaminated within an hour.
The CBIRF consists of about 450 personnel in two initial response forces who are trained in chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear and high-yield explosion operations, and can detect and identify agents, search for and rescue casualties and decontaminate and provide emergency medical care to those exposed.
Set up in 1996, after the AUM Shinrikyo cult's deadly sarin nerve gas attacks on Tokyo subway lines in 1995, the team has dealt with the 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States and terrorist threats, but was dispatched abroad for the first time.
The IRF brought a remotely controlled robot and analyzer equipment to deal with the nuclear crisis that evolved after the March 11 massive earthquake and tsunami crippled the Fukushima nuclear plant some 220 kilometers northeast of Tokyo.
The team will stay at the Yokota base for the time being, while coordinating its operations with Japan's Self-Defense Forces.
==Kyodo
TOKYO, April 9, Kyodo
A U.S. Marine team versed in radiological disaster response conducted a drill Saturday at Yokota Air Base in Tokyo to prepare to assist Japan upon request in dealing with its worst nuclear crisis continuing at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.
All 145 Marines of the Chemical Biological Incident Response Force's
Initial Response Force who arrived in Japan earlier this month took part in the drill along with six troops from a Japanese Ground Self-Defense Force team capable of dealing with nuclear, biological and chemical attacks.
The drill, which was open to the press, was conducted under the assumption of a nuclear disaster and included rescue and decontamination for people exposed to radiation.
Marines wearing special protective suits and masks trained to rescue an injured person by using a stretcher slung over from the top of a building, an ability the SDF lacks, according to GSDF officers.
They also trained for removing radioactive substances by water at a large tent. With the method, 600 people can be decontaminated within an hour.
The CBIRF consists of about 450 personnel in two initial response forces who are trained in chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear and high-yield explosion operations, and can detect and identify agents, search for and rescue casualties and decontaminate and provide emergency medical care to those exposed.
Set up in 1996, after the AUM Shinrikyo cult's deadly sarin nerve gas attacks on Tokyo subway lines in 1995, the team has dealt with the 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States and terrorist threats, but was dispatched abroad for the first time.
The IRF brought a remotely controlled robot and analyzer equipment to deal with the nuclear crisis that evolved after the March 11 massive earthquake and tsunami crippled the Fukushima nuclear plant some 220 kilometers northeast of Tokyo.
The team will stay at the Yokota base for the time being, while coordinating its operations with Japan's Self-Defense Forces.
==Kyodo
There is only one religion
@D99
zo zie je dus, gewoon de limieten verhogen en de veiligheid verlagen is standaard in die industrie.
vooral als het hun uitkomt.
goeie post.
zo zie je dus, gewoon de limieten verhogen en de veiligheid verlagen is standaard in die industrie.
vooral als het hun uitkomt.
goeie post.
megalomaniac
wel het artikel wijst erop dat de verhoging door sommige bedrijven en medewerkers niet geaccepteerd word, die houden vast aan de eerstgeldende norm.
There is only one religion
nood breekt wetten zeggen ze weleens..quote:
@D99
zo zie je dus, gewoon de limieten verhogen en de veiligheid verlagen is standaard in die industrie.
vooral als het hun uitkomt.
goeie post.
There is only one religion
Omdat ik al veel eerder heb geroepen dat ik die evacuatiezone van de Japanners nogal magertjes vind.quote:
en waarom reageer je niet op die 2 miljoen cesium ?!
ok, maar je heb gelijk, ik heb bewust de rest vh ierse artikel weggelaten.quote:
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Omdat ik al veel eerder heb geroepen dat ik die evacuatiezone van de Japanners nogal magertjes vind.
maar was om te provoceren, niet dat ik dat als gewoonte toepas.
eigenlijk helemaal niet, daarom vroeg ik je gister ook om aan te tonen waar ik precies aan het sensatieposten ben.
overigens nog eens dat artikel over die spent fuel geklikt, maar 18 pagina's doorlezen is mij teveel.
dat het geen 2 jaar was zoals ik dacht en dat het tot nu toe voor de meeste mensen een verborgen tijdbom is die voór fuku nooit naar voren is getreden lijkt me wel aannemelijk.
megalomaniac
Bizar - mensen lijkt het niet te boeien, maar ondertussen heeft deze ramp Tsjernobyl allang overtroffen.quote:
om maar even terug te keren naar de ontwikkelingen van vandaag, en viel niet eens mee wat noemenswaardig nieuws te vinden, ook dit onderwerp verdwijnt langzaam maar zeker vd radar.
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volledig artikel:
http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201104080169.html
Bodemmonsters 4x !! zo hoog als in Tjernobyl !
Cesium-137 gevonden buiten de 30 km-zone met 2.200.000 Bq/cm3 !
en niemand die ze helpt te evacueren...
Een aardige update....
TEPCO tries to enclose high radiation in sea in nuke crisis
TOKYO, April 9, Kyodo
Tokyo Electric Power Co. started Saturday to install enclosing materials in the sea to prevent a further spread of highly radioactive water that seeped from a crisis-hit nuclear power plant, while continuing other efforts to stabilize Japan's worst nuclear crisis.
The Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station in Fukushima Prefecture saw the same day the first visit by a Cabinet minister since it was rocked by explosions and began emitting radioactive materials shortly after the March 11 quake and tsunami, with Economy, Trade and Industry Minister Banri Kaieda coming in the afternoon to encourage workers and check damaged reactors.
Before his roughly 45-minute visit to the plant, Kaieda, whose ministry promotes and regulates the nuclear power industry, told reporters the situation was far from being brought under control and expressed his resolve to contain it as soon as possible.
TEPCO, as the company is known, enclosed a seawater intake for the No. 2 reactor at the six-reactor plant with seven steel sheets and a ''silt curtain,'' while planning similar curtains at other locations nearby, such as near the intakes for the Nos. 1, 3 and 4 reactors.
The power supplier stopped the leakage of water highly contaminated with radioactive materials from near the intake for the No. 2 reactor on Wednesday. But the company, facing mounting environmental concerns, hopes that the installation will help prevent contaminated water from spreading outside the plant's bay.
The radioactive iodine reading was 63,000 times the legal limit in seawater near the intake a day after contaminated water stopped leaking into the sea.
The utility also is close to finishing the release into the sea of 10,000 tons of water containing relatively low-level radioactive materials to help lead to resumption of work to restore the plant's crucial cooling functions, with priority placed on the No. 2 among the damaged Nos. 1 to 3 reactors.
''We must move high levels of contaminated water at the No. 2 reactor and elsewhere to a radioactive waste processing facility as soon as possible without leaking it into the sea,'' Kaieda told reporters back in Tokyo after the visit, adding, ''The plant chief said it must be given the priority right now and I agree with him.''
To free up room to pool highly contaminated water that has flooded the No. 2 reactor's turbine building and prevented the restoration work, the company has dumped about 7,700 tons of low-level radioactive water into the sea from the plant's waste processing facility, with an estimated 800 tons of water left to be discharged.
It also pumped out into the sea 1,300 of the 1,500 tons of low-level contaminated groundwater from the Nos. 5 and 6 reactors, expecting to complete the work on Sunday.
For the tainted water filling a tunnel near the No. 2 reactor, the utility will begin channeling it to a 3,000-cubic-meter container inside the turbine building on Sunday to reduce the risk of it seeping into the sea, the government's nuclear safety agency said.
TEPCO also continued to pump nitrogen, an inert gas, into the No. 1 reactor to prevent hydrogen from causing another explosion, while enhancing the purity of the gas to reduce the amount of oxygen mixed in it.
The utility said it will fly a small unmanned helicopter to survey the plant, possibly starting on Sunday depending on the weather, expecting it to capture images of damaged installations at the Nos. 1 to 4 reactors that workers cannot approach due to elevated levels of radiation.
Asked after the visit if workers' working conditions have improved, industry minister Kaieda said, ''Because many people still sleep in the corridors (of a two-story antiseismic building on the plant's premises), they are not enough but have improved to a fair degree compared with what they were before.''
Meeting with Fukushima Gov. Yuhei Sato in the city of Fukushima before the visit, Kaieda asked what local residents' requests are as the government has directed those living within a 20-kilometer radius of the plant to evacuate to ensure their safety.
On the nation's atomic energy policy, he told reporters in Fukushima, ''While I can't say at this point, we need to review standards to enhance safety.''
Also Saturday, the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency called on the nation's power suppliers to have at least two backup diesel generators on standby even when a reactor is in a stable condition called ''cold shutdown'' or undergoing fuel replacement.
The move came after all three diesel generators failed to function at the Higashidori nuclear power plant in Aomori Prefecture at one point following the 7.1-magnitude aftershock late Thursday of the March 11 deadly earthquake.
The agency's previous rule that required the suppliers to have just one diesel generator on standby in situations including cold shutdown was ''not enough, I must say,'' agency spokesman Hidehiko Nishiyama said at a news conference.
The nuclear crisis erupted after last month's 9.0-magnitude earthquake and tsunami knocked out external power supplies and backup generators for cooling systems at the Fukushima Daiichi plant and allowed reactors there to overheat.
Nishiyama also displayed candor about the missteps and failures that precipitated the disaster, saying, ''We had said all along that (nuclear power) was absolutely secure thanks to its multiple layers of protection and five-layer barriers, and I believed this, but we brought this situation onto ourselves.''
''We need to review everything to ensure safety, regardless of precedents,'' he said.
==Kyodo
TEPCO tries to enclose high radiation in sea in nuke crisis
TOKYO, April 9, Kyodo
Tokyo Electric Power Co. started Saturday to install enclosing materials in the sea to prevent a further spread of highly radioactive water that seeped from a crisis-hit nuclear power plant, while continuing other efforts to stabilize Japan's worst nuclear crisis.
The Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station in Fukushima Prefecture saw the same day the first visit by a Cabinet minister since it was rocked by explosions and began emitting radioactive materials shortly after the March 11 quake and tsunami, with Economy, Trade and Industry Minister Banri Kaieda coming in the afternoon to encourage workers and check damaged reactors.
Before his roughly 45-minute visit to the plant, Kaieda, whose ministry promotes and regulates the nuclear power industry, told reporters the situation was far from being brought under control and expressed his resolve to contain it as soon as possible.
TEPCO, as the company is known, enclosed a seawater intake for the No. 2 reactor at the six-reactor plant with seven steel sheets and a ''silt curtain,'' while planning similar curtains at other locations nearby, such as near the intakes for the Nos. 1, 3 and 4 reactors.
The power supplier stopped the leakage of water highly contaminated with radioactive materials from near the intake for the No. 2 reactor on Wednesday. But the company, facing mounting environmental concerns, hopes that the installation will help prevent contaminated water from spreading outside the plant's bay.
The radioactive iodine reading was 63,000 times the legal limit in seawater near the intake a day after contaminated water stopped leaking into the sea.
The utility also is close to finishing the release into the sea of 10,000 tons of water containing relatively low-level radioactive materials to help lead to resumption of work to restore the plant's crucial cooling functions, with priority placed on the No. 2 among the damaged Nos. 1 to 3 reactors.
''We must move high levels of contaminated water at the No. 2 reactor and elsewhere to a radioactive waste processing facility as soon as possible without leaking it into the sea,'' Kaieda told reporters back in Tokyo after the visit, adding, ''The plant chief said it must be given the priority right now and I agree with him.''
To free up room to pool highly contaminated water that has flooded the No. 2 reactor's turbine building and prevented the restoration work, the company has dumped about 7,700 tons of low-level radioactive water into the sea from the plant's waste processing facility, with an estimated 800 tons of water left to be discharged.
It also pumped out into the sea 1,300 of the 1,500 tons of low-level contaminated groundwater from the Nos. 5 and 6 reactors, expecting to complete the work on Sunday.
For the tainted water filling a tunnel near the No. 2 reactor, the utility will begin channeling it to a 3,000-cubic-meter container inside the turbine building on Sunday to reduce the risk of it seeping into the sea, the government's nuclear safety agency said.
TEPCO also continued to pump nitrogen, an inert gas, into the No. 1 reactor to prevent hydrogen from causing another explosion, while enhancing the purity of the gas to reduce the amount of oxygen mixed in it.
The utility said it will fly a small unmanned helicopter to survey the plant, possibly starting on Sunday depending on the weather, expecting it to capture images of damaged installations at the Nos. 1 to 4 reactors that workers cannot approach due to elevated levels of radiation.
Asked after the visit if workers' working conditions have improved, industry minister Kaieda said, ''Because many people still sleep in the corridors (of a two-story antiseismic building on the plant's premises), they are not enough but have improved to a fair degree compared with what they were before.''
Meeting with Fukushima Gov. Yuhei Sato in the city of Fukushima before the visit, Kaieda asked what local residents' requests are as the government has directed those living within a 20-kilometer radius of the plant to evacuate to ensure their safety.
On the nation's atomic energy policy, he told reporters in Fukushima, ''While I can't say at this point, we need to review standards to enhance safety.''
Also Saturday, the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency called on the nation's power suppliers to have at least two backup diesel generators on standby even when a reactor is in a stable condition called ''cold shutdown'' or undergoing fuel replacement.
The move came after all three diesel generators failed to function at the Higashidori nuclear power plant in Aomori Prefecture at one point following the 7.1-magnitude aftershock late Thursday of the March 11 deadly earthquake.
The agency's previous rule that required the suppliers to have just one diesel generator on standby in situations including cold shutdown was ''not enough, I must say,'' agency spokesman Hidehiko Nishiyama said at a news conference.
The nuclear crisis erupted after last month's 9.0-magnitude earthquake and tsunami knocked out external power supplies and backup generators for cooling systems at the Fukushima Daiichi plant and allowed reactors there to overheat.
Nishiyama also displayed candor about the missteps and failures that precipitated the disaster, saying, ''We had said all along that (nuclear power) was absolutely secure thanks to its multiple layers of protection and five-layer barriers, and I believed this, but we brought this situation onto ourselves.''
''We need to review everything to ensure safety, regardless of precedents,'' he said.
==Kyodo
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Excessive radioactive cesium found in fish sampled off Fukushima
TOKYO, April 10, Kyodo
Radioactive cesium above the legal limit for consumption was detected Saturday in young sand lance caught off Fukushima Prefecture, as the prefecture took samples amid a voluntary ban on fishing there in the wake of the ongoing nuclear crisis.
One of the four sample fish had a level of cesium of 570 becquerels per kilogram on Thursday about 1 kilometer off the city of Iwaki, and the other three measured 480 to 500 becquerels. The limit is 500 becquerels under the Food Sanitation Law.
The samples were taken after the species was found contaminated off Ibaraki Prefecture, although fishermen have voluntarily refrained from fishing off Fukushima due to the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station.
Radioactive iodine measured 1,100 to 1,700 becquerels in the samples against the legal limit of 2,000 becquerels.
The move came as food makers and restaurant operators in Japan have increasingly begun to check levels of radioactive substances in food coming from the Kanto region, where Fukushima is not included.
A guild of tobacco growers in Fukushima said, meanwhile, it has decided not to plant leaf tobacco this year although the prefecture ranked seventh last year in output among Japan's 47 prefectures.
Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Minister Michihiko Kano visited the prefecture the same day to coordinate with local authorities to keep farmers from planting rice near the nuclear complex, saying he expects the size of the banned area to be decided on in about mid-April.
Up to 26 becquerels of iodine and 8 becquerels of cesium were found in two flatfish species caught Friday off the Ibaraki city of Hitachinaka, according to the latest test results released by Ibaraki Prefecture.
The radioactive levels were also below the limits or none in strawberries and other farm produce in Fukushima, while no levels were found in spinach and three other types of produce tested in Niigata Prefecture.
==Kyodo
TOKYO, April 10, Kyodo
Radioactive cesium above the legal limit for consumption was detected Saturday in young sand lance caught off Fukushima Prefecture, as the prefecture took samples amid a voluntary ban on fishing there in the wake of the ongoing nuclear crisis.
One of the four sample fish had a level of cesium of 570 becquerels per kilogram on Thursday about 1 kilometer off the city of Iwaki, and the other three measured 480 to 500 becquerels. The limit is 500 becquerels under the Food Sanitation Law.
The samples were taken after the species was found contaminated off Ibaraki Prefecture, although fishermen have voluntarily refrained from fishing off Fukushima due to the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station.
Radioactive iodine measured 1,100 to 1,700 becquerels in the samples against the legal limit of 2,000 becquerels.
The move came as food makers and restaurant operators in Japan have increasingly begun to check levels of radioactive substances in food coming from the Kanto region, where Fukushima is not included.
A guild of tobacco growers in Fukushima said, meanwhile, it has decided not to plant leaf tobacco this year although the prefecture ranked seventh last year in output among Japan's 47 prefectures.
Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Minister Michihiko Kano visited the prefecture the same day to coordinate with local authorities to keep farmers from planting rice near the nuclear complex, saying he expects the size of the banned area to be decided on in about mid-April.
Up to 26 becquerels of iodine and 8 becquerels of cesium were found in two flatfish species caught Friday off the Ibaraki city of Hitachinaka, according to the latest test results released by Ibaraki Prefecture.
The radioactive levels were also below the limits or none in strawberries and other farm produce in Fukushima, while no levels were found in spinach and three other types of produce tested in Niigata Prefecture.
==Kyodo
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Nou...quote:
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daarom vroeg ik je gister ook om aan te tonen waar ik precies aan het sensatieposten ben.
Dit soort dingen dus. Wat nou verborgen tijdbom? Leg jij nou eens uit waarom die spent fuel pools een tijdbom zijn?quote:tot nu toe voor de meeste mensen een verborgen tijdbom is die voór fuku nooit naar voren is getreden lijkt me wel aannemelijk.
kunnen we misschien stoppen met die berichten van TEPCO? het is nl erg duidelijk dat ze alles aan elkaar liegen.
Ik ga gewoon stocijns door in ieder geval en als het je niet bevalt lees je het maar nietquote:
kunnen we misschien stoppen met die berichten van TEPCO? het is nl erg duidelijk dat ze alles aan elkaar liegen.
There is only one religion
dat bepaal jij nietquote:
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Ik ga gewoon stocijns door in ieder geval en als het je niet bevalt lees je het maar niet
Mensen die er niks van weten en dan de doomsday voorspellen. zucht.
Brave New World
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Brave New World
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Oorlog is vrede
Vrijheid is slavernij
Onwetendheid is kracht
-George Orwell
Vrijheid is slavernij
Onwetendheid is kracht
-George Orwell
kap nu eens met dat BNW GEZEIK!quote:
Mensen die er niks van weten en dan de doomsday voorspellen. zucht.
Brave New World
tja, het blijft fok natuurlijk hè ?quote:
Nou...
Dit soort dingen dus. Wat nou verborgen tijdbom? Leg jij nou eens uit waarom die spent fuel pools een tijdbom zijn?
ik kan ook schrijven: veel mensen was het niet bekend (waaronder ik) dat er zo veel en zo langdurig hitte-ontwikkelend kernafval wordt opgeslagen in niet meer dan een grote bak water met niet meer afdekking dan een aluminiumdakje en een pompje om voor noodzakelijke koeling te zorgen.
valt die koeling weg of wordt er een aanslag gepleegd dan ontstaan er resp. explosieve gassen en een pluim hoog radio-actief afval die zich verpsreidt tot in de verre omgeving.
lijkt me niet overdreven om dat zo op te schrijven toch ?
samenvattend vind ik dan tijdbom wel enigzins toepasselijk.
maar ok, sommige dingen maak ik vetgedrukt met uitroeptekens en een uitgesproken mening erbij maar ik doe dat, of probeer dat altijd wel te doen, aan de hand vd bijgeplaatste tekst.
is minder saai en geeft ook wat meer reacties.
megalomaniac
Highly radioactive water in nuke plant to be moved for storage
TOKYO, April 10, Kyodo
Workers at the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant began work Sunday to remove highly radioactive water that has leaked and prevented restoration work that is necessary to stabilize Japan's prolonged nuclear crisis.
Toxic water has been found in the basements of the Nos. 1 to 3 reactor turbine buildings, as well as in nearby underground trenches connected to them. Transferring the water, totaling some 60,000 tons, to nearby tanks and other storage places is seen as vital to move ahead with the work to restore the key cooling functions for reactors damaged after the March 11 quake and tsunami.
The workers were to start soon with pumping out water filling a trench near the No. 2 reactor to a storage place they have secured inside the reactor's turbine building, as the level of the water is edging up, apparently because of steps taken to block the water from leaking into the Pacific Ocean, the government's nuclear safety agency said.
The water inside the basement of the No. 2 reactor turbine building and the trench connected to it is highly contaminated because it is believed to be originating from the No. 2 reactor core, the most dangerous of the three reactors where fuel rods have partially melted.
''As contaminated water with high concentration (of radioactive substances) will be moved, we would like to confirm the safety of the process,'' Hidehiko Nishiyama, a spokesman for the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, said at a press conference in the morning.
A worker in his 30s was taken to a hospital as he complained of feeling sick around 11:10 a.m. after laying a hose pipe for the work from 9:30 a.m., but is conscious and was found to have no radioactive materials on him, plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said.
Wearing a full-face mask, outerwear upon protective clothing, rubber gloves and high boots, the worker was exposed in the work to 4.84 millisieverts of radiation, which is below the limit of 5 millisieverts set for Sunday's work, said the utility known as TEPCO.
The water in the trench was to be transferred to a ''condenser'' inside the No. 2 reactor turbine building, where in normal operations steam created from the reactor is converted into water.
The condenser has a capacity to store 3,000 tons of liquid and work to empty the condenser finished Saturday.
Workers are also trying to open up a facility for nuclear waste disposal in the plant by continuing to dump relatively less contaminated water found inside the facility into the Pacific Ocean.
A total of 8,900 tons of water had been disposed of from the facility as of Sunday morning and TEPCO aimed to finish releasing the remaining 200 tons during the day.
The utility also flew a small unmanned helicopter to survey the plant, Nishiyama said.
==Kyodo
TOKYO, April 10, Kyodo
Workers at the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant began work Sunday to remove highly radioactive water that has leaked and prevented restoration work that is necessary to stabilize Japan's prolonged nuclear crisis.
Toxic water has been found in the basements of the Nos. 1 to 3 reactor turbine buildings, as well as in nearby underground trenches connected to them. Transferring the water, totaling some 60,000 tons, to nearby tanks and other storage places is seen as vital to move ahead with the work to restore the key cooling functions for reactors damaged after the March 11 quake and tsunami.
The workers were to start soon with pumping out water filling a trench near the No. 2 reactor to a storage place they have secured inside the reactor's turbine building, as the level of the water is edging up, apparently because of steps taken to block the water from leaking into the Pacific Ocean, the government's nuclear safety agency said.
The water inside the basement of the No. 2 reactor turbine building and the trench connected to it is highly contaminated because it is believed to be originating from the No. 2 reactor core, the most dangerous of the three reactors where fuel rods have partially melted.
''As contaminated water with high concentration (of radioactive substances) will be moved, we would like to confirm the safety of the process,'' Hidehiko Nishiyama, a spokesman for the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, said at a press conference in the morning.
A worker in his 30s was taken to a hospital as he complained of feeling sick around 11:10 a.m. after laying a hose pipe for the work from 9:30 a.m., but is conscious and was found to have no radioactive materials on him, plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said.
Wearing a full-face mask, outerwear upon protective clothing, rubber gloves and high boots, the worker was exposed in the work to 4.84 millisieverts of radiation, which is below the limit of 5 millisieverts set for Sunday's work, said the utility known as TEPCO.
The water in the trench was to be transferred to a ''condenser'' inside the No. 2 reactor turbine building, where in normal operations steam created from the reactor is converted into water.
The condenser has a capacity to store 3,000 tons of liquid and work to empty the condenser finished Saturday.
Workers are also trying to open up a facility for nuclear waste disposal in the plant by continuing to dump relatively less contaminated water found inside the facility into the Pacific Ocean.
A total of 8,900 tons of water had been disposed of from the facility as of Sunday morning and TEPCO aimed to finish releasing the remaining 200 tons during the day.
The utility also flew a small unmanned helicopter to survey the plant, Nishiyama said.
==Kyodo
There is only one religion
Video shows tsunami crashing into Fukushima nuclear site
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)ia+%28RSS%3A+Asia%29
10 april
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http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)ia+%28RSS%3A+Asia%29
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megalomaniac
voor de liefhebbers met toegang tot discovery science:
er komt een nieuwe serie die begint vanavond en die Powering the Future heet.
om 21:00 uur dus.
Powering the Future
Energie beheerst ons hele leven. Deze serie laat zien waarom we minder afhankelijk van fossiele brandstof moeten worden en wat de alternatieven zijn voor de nabije toekomst.
[ Bericht 94% gewijzigd door kitao op 10-04-2011 15:04:07 ]
er komt een nieuwe serie die begint vanavond en die Powering the Future heet.
om 21:00 uur dus.
Powering the Future
Energie beheerst ons hele leven. Deze serie laat zien waarom we minder afhankelijk van fossiele brandstof moeten worden en wat de alternatieven zijn voor de nabije toekomst.
[ Bericht 94% gewijzigd door kitao op 10-04-2011 15:04:07 ]
megalomaniac
08-04-2011
Waarschuwing tsunami Japan al in 869 AD
Nu de ergste schade is geleden in Japan, duikt een wetenschappelijk verslag uit 2001 op. Die waarschuwde al voor een zware aardbeving en tsunami gebaseerd op gegevens uit het verre verleden, opgeslagen in de bodem. Helaas…de wetenschap werd toen, onder andere door een reviewpanel van de kerncentrale, niet serieus genoeg genomen.
De haven bij Sendai na de tsunami. Afbeelding: © US Navy
Nog maar een kleine maand geleden stroomden tsunamigolven noordoostelijk Japan binnen. Nu de ergste natuurschade is geleden, komt er een wetenschappelijk verslag uit 2001 in het nieuws. Een enorme tsunami vond ook al in het verleden plaats in diezelfde regio. Veel rekening werd echter niet gehouden met dit rapport. Met de huidige enorme schade en een kerngevaar tot gevolg.
Japan 2011
Op 11 maart dit jaar trof een zware aardbeving van 9,0 op de momentmagnitudeschaal het noordoosten van Japan. Een maximaal 37,9 m hoge tsunami verwoestte groten delen van de kustregio, en werd zelfs aan de andere kant van de Stille Oceaan, in Chili, waargenomen. Het dodental in Japan zal waarschijnlijk oplopen tot rond de 27.500. De gevolgen van de tsunami zijn nog steeds in het nieuws, omdat de situatie rondom kerncentrale Fukushima nog steeds onveilig is.
De locatie van inmiddels beroemde 11 maart aardbeving en de getroffen kerncentrales. Afbeelding: © W. Rebel
.De zware beving was sterker dan verwacht. Het gebied waar de beving plaatsvond, stond op de nominatielijst voor een beving van 7,5 of meer voor de komende 30 jaar. Voor 30 jaar dus. Over langere perioden gerekend kan echter een zwaardere beving plaatsvinden. Het probleem is dat er nauwelijks aardbevingsgegevens zijn van vele honderden tot enkele duizenden jaren terug. Of toch wel?
Japan 869 AD
Ja, in dit geval wel. Nu duikt er een wetenschappelijk artikel op uit 2001 van de Japanner Minoura (Tohohu University, Sendai regio, Japan) en collega’s in een wat onbekend wetenschapsblad: Journal of Natural Disaster Science. Dit betekent uiteraard niet dat het geen goed of onbelangrijk artikel is. Integendeel. De resultaten zijn schokkend met het oog op de tsunami van 11 maart.
Een historisch document uit 901 AD verhaalde al over een sterke aardbeving in 869 AD waarbij een stadje in puin werd gelegd door de beving én een tsunami. Duizend slachtoffers. Dit bleek allerminst een mythe want Minoura en collega’s vonden sediment afgezet door deze tsunami tot 4 km kustinwaarts. Schatting is dat de beving een kracht had van 8,3 op momentmagnitudeschaal; zo’n beving kan zo eens in de duizend jaar plaatsvinden. Met andere woorden: de zware aardbeving van 11 maart was wat aan de late kant. Bovendien stelden de onderzoekers dat “de mogelijkheid op een grote tsunami voor de Sendai vlakte groot is.”
De Fukushima 1 kerncentrale, 5 dagen nadat de tsunami toesloeg. Afbeelding: © Digital Globe Imagery
Aandacht
Dit artikel komt duidelijk te laat onder de aandacht voor de mensen in Japan. “We probeerden dat te doen in dit geval, maar we waren te laat,” laat geoloog Yukinobu Okamura weten in Science. Ook te laat voor de kerncentrale Fukushima, die een maximale tsunamigolf van 5,7 meter aankon, veel minder dan de 14 meter hoge tsunami die op 11 maart ter plaatse voorbij kwam. Okamura waarschuwde voor hogere golven dan deze 5,7 meter, maar vond geen gehoor bij een reviewpanel die de veiligheid van de kerncentrale doorlichtte in 2008.
“De informatie werd niet geaccepteerd bij kustmanagers en de eigenaren van de Fukushima kerncentrale, ondanks dat er consensus was onder de wetenschappers dat zware aardbevingen kunnen voorkomen bij de Sendai vlakte,” vertelt tsunami-onderzoekster Katrin Monecke (Universiteit van Pittsburgh, VS) aan Kennislink. “Het belangrijkste is om uit te vinden hoe deze bevindingen effectief te communiceren zijn naar de industrie en de beleidsmakers, die meestal op veel kortere tijdsschalen denken.” Na de kersttsunami van 2004 en nu deze in Japan lijkt de boodschap duidelijk: voorbereiden op het ergste in gebieden bij aardplaatgrenzen is noodzakelijk. Met de resultaten van de wetenschap in de hand.
Bronnen:
•Minoura et al. The 869 Jogan tsunami deposit and recurrence interval of large-scale tsunami on the Pacific coast of northeast Japan. Journal of Natural Disaster Science 23 (2001) 83-88. PDF
•Normile, D. Scientific Consensus on Great Quake Came Too Late. Science 332 (2011) 22-23.
(Kennislink)
Waarschuwing tsunami Japan al in 869 AD
Nu de ergste schade is geleden in Japan, duikt een wetenschappelijk verslag uit 2001 op. Die waarschuwde al voor een zware aardbeving en tsunami gebaseerd op gegevens uit het verre verleden, opgeslagen in de bodem. Helaas…de wetenschap werd toen, onder andere door een reviewpanel van de kerncentrale, niet serieus genoeg genomen.
De haven bij Sendai na de tsunami. Afbeelding: © US Navy
Nog maar een kleine maand geleden stroomden tsunamigolven noordoostelijk Japan binnen. Nu de ergste natuurschade is geleden, komt er een wetenschappelijk verslag uit 2001 in het nieuws. Een enorme tsunami vond ook al in het verleden plaats in diezelfde regio. Veel rekening werd echter niet gehouden met dit rapport. Met de huidige enorme schade en een kerngevaar tot gevolg.
Japan 2011
Op 11 maart dit jaar trof een zware aardbeving van 9,0 op de momentmagnitudeschaal het noordoosten van Japan. Een maximaal 37,9 m hoge tsunami verwoestte groten delen van de kustregio, en werd zelfs aan de andere kant van de Stille Oceaan, in Chili, waargenomen. Het dodental in Japan zal waarschijnlijk oplopen tot rond de 27.500. De gevolgen van de tsunami zijn nog steeds in het nieuws, omdat de situatie rondom kerncentrale Fukushima nog steeds onveilig is.
De locatie van inmiddels beroemde 11 maart aardbeving en de getroffen kerncentrales. Afbeelding: © W. Rebel
.De zware beving was sterker dan verwacht. Het gebied waar de beving plaatsvond, stond op de nominatielijst voor een beving van 7,5 of meer voor de komende 30 jaar. Voor 30 jaar dus. Over langere perioden gerekend kan echter een zwaardere beving plaatsvinden. Het probleem is dat er nauwelijks aardbevingsgegevens zijn van vele honderden tot enkele duizenden jaren terug. Of toch wel?
Japan 869 AD
Ja, in dit geval wel. Nu duikt er een wetenschappelijk artikel op uit 2001 van de Japanner Minoura (Tohohu University, Sendai regio, Japan) en collega’s in een wat onbekend wetenschapsblad: Journal of Natural Disaster Science. Dit betekent uiteraard niet dat het geen goed of onbelangrijk artikel is. Integendeel. De resultaten zijn schokkend met het oog op de tsunami van 11 maart.
Een historisch document uit 901 AD verhaalde al over een sterke aardbeving in 869 AD waarbij een stadje in puin werd gelegd door de beving én een tsunami. Duizend slachtoffers. Dit bleek allerminst een mythe want Minoura en collega’s vonden sediment afgezet door deze tsunami tot 4 km kustinwaarts. Schatting is dat de beving een kracht had van 8,3 op momentmagnitudeschaal; zo’n beving kan zo eens in de duizend jaar plaatsvinden. Met andere woorden: de zware aardbeving van 11 maart was wat aan de late kant. Bovendien stelden de onderzoekers dat “de mogelijkheid op een grote tsunami voor de Sendai vlakte groot is.”
De Fukushima 1 kerncentrale, 5 dagen nadat de tsunami toesloeg. Afbeelding: © Digital Globe Imagery
Aandacht
Dit artikel komt duidelijk te laat onder de aandacht voor de mensen in Japan. “We probeerden dat te doen in dit geval, maar we waren te laat,” laat geoloog Yukinobu Okamura weten in Science. Ook te laat voor de kerncentrale Fukushima, die een maximale tsunamigolf van 5,7 meter aankon, veel minder dan de 14 meter hoge tsunami die op 11 maart ter plaatse voorbij kwam. Okamura waarschuwde voor hogere golven dan deze 5,7 meter, maar vond geen gehoor bij een reviewpanel die de veiligheid van de kerncentrale doorlichtte in 2008.
“De informatie werd niet geaccepteerd bij kustmanagers en de eigenaren van de Fukushima kerncentrale, ondanks dat er consensus was onder de wetenschappers dat zware aardbevingen kunnen voorkomen bij de Sendai vlakte,” vertelt tsunami-onderzoekster Katrin Monecke (Universiteit van Pittsburgh, VS) aan Kennislink. “Het belangrijkste is om uit te vinden hoe deze bevindingen effectief te communiceren zijn naar de industrie en de beleidsmakers, die meestal op veel kortere tijdsschalen denken.” Na de kersttsunami van 2004 en nu deze in Japan lijkt de boodschap duidelijk: voorbereiden op het ergste in gebieden bij aardplaatgrenzen is noodzakelijk. Met de resultaten van de wetenschap in de hand.
Bronnen:
•Minoura et al. The 869 Jogan tsunami deposit and recurrence interval of large-scale tsunami on the Pacific coast of northeast Japan. Journal of Natural Disaster Science 23 (2001) 83-88. PDF
•Normile, D. Scientific Consensus on Great Quake Came Too Late. Science 332 (2011) 22-23.
(Kennislink)
Death Makes Angels of us all
And gives us wings where we had shoulders
Smooth as raven' s claws...
And gives us wings where we had shoulders
Smooth as raven' s claws...
je hoeft niet eens zo ver terug te gaan, ik heb hier al een quote geplaatst in deze reeks waar ze net iets meer als 100 jaar geleden en soortgelijke ramp voor hun kiezen kregen met ongeveer hetzelfde aantal slachtoffers in hetzelfde gebied.quote:
08-04-2011
Waarschuwing tsunami Japan al in 869 AD
ik zal eens kijken of ik die nog terug kan vinden.
megalomaniac
