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@salvador
The global conveyor belt moves much more slowly than surface currents -- a few centimeters per second, compared to tens or hundreds of centimeters per second. Scientists estimate that it takes one section of the belt 1,000 years to complete one full circuit of the globe.
http://science.howstuffwo(...)y/ocean-current3.htm
The global conveyor belt moves much more slowly than surface currents -- a few centimeters per second, compared to tens or hundreds of centimeters per second. Scientists estimate that it takes one section of the belt 1,000 years to complete one full circuit of the globe.
http://science.howstuffwo(...)y/ocean-current3.htm
megalomaniac
vreemd dat niemand dat precies weet terwijl je juist veel uitleg hiervan zou verwachten in de media.quote:Op dinsdag 5 april 2011 02:27 schreef MartijnA3 het volgende:
Geen idee. Ik vermoed dat het water er ook op tijd weer uit moet omdat het anders te warm wordt en het koeleffect wordt verminderd. Als dit noodsysteem dan minder vermogen heeft waardoor er net zoveel water uitgaat als erin, dan stijgt het niveau natuurlijk niet.
ik vermoed dat de reden simpel is, er zit gewoon een gat in de emmer.
en ze hebben paniekerige haast anders ga je niet lozen ipv opslaan in een tanker die allang aangeboden is.
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110403a4.htmlquote:
As for the flooded No. 1 turbine building, Tepco was pumping the water into a condenser tank but was forced to transfer it to another vessel after the tank got full. The work reduced the water in the basement from a depth of 40 cm to about 20 cm.
Work to remove contaminated water from reactors 2 and 3, however, has yet to start. The crucial task of restoring electricity for the reactor cooling systems has meanwhile been delayed.
Experts warned that condenser tanks won't be able to hold all the water.
"I think some facility to store a massive amount of water will be needed," Kyoto University's Misawa said, adding it will be a huge task to properly dispose of the vast amounts of contaminated water.
While the government has mulled anchoring tankers by the plant to store the water and building a facility to properly dispose of it, the city of Shizuoka announced Friday it will provide its mega-float, a huge barge, to Tepco for storing the water.
Tepco estimates the vessel can store about 10,000 tons of water, while the amount of water detected in the plant has reached around 13,000 tons.
While removing the water is expected to take time, possible damage to pressure vessels might mean radioactive substances will keep leaking.
Misawa said it is highly possible the No. 2 reactor's pressure vessel is damaged, since the water in its turbine building is extremely contaminated, showing surface-level radiation in excess of 1,000 millisieverts per hour.
Radionuclide analysis of that water showed it contains not only volatile iodine-131 and cesium-134, but also the more stable lanthanum-140 and barium-140. All four substances are believed to have come from atomic fission, meaning "some part of the pressure vessel is probably damaged," Misawa said.
megalomaniac
Meetapparatuur in de centrale is soms beschadigd/onbetrouwbaar. Zie je ook in je document. Zolang de temperatuur niet meer stijgt is het geen issue dus geen nieuws.quote:
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vreemd dat niemand dat precies weet terwijl je juist veel uitleg hiervan zou verwachten in de media.
Staat ook in je document: "Damage and leakage suspected"quote:ik vermoed dat de reden simpel is, er zit gewoon een gat in de emmer.
Als het nou echt niet schadelijk is (misschien spreken ze wel de waarheid!quote:en ze hebben paniekerige haast anders ga je niet lozen ipv opslaan in een tanker die allang aangeboden is.
) , waarom dan zoveel moeite doen om het op te slaan? Die tankers komen misschien straks nog wel van pas.[..]
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110403a4.html
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Electrabel: "Belgische kerncentrales wél veilig"
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© belga
Energieleverancier Electrabel zegt het "ten zeerste te betreuren dat de dramatische gebeurtenissen in Japan misbruikt worden om foutieve informatie de wereld in te sturen en onrust te zaaien".
Electrabel doet dat aan de vooravond van het verschijnen van een artikel in Humo, waarin de Belgische documentairemaker en nucleair chemicus Alain de Halleux waarschuwt dat er ook in België kernrampen kunnen gebeuren.
Zware ongevallen
"Ik wil geen paniek zaaien, maar ook in België mogen we zware ongevallen met kerncentrales verwachten. Het is alleen maar een kwestie van tijd", zegt de Belgische documentairemaker Alain de Halleux (53) in het artikel in Humo.
Fundering
Electrabel weerlegt de stellingen van de Halleux. "In tegenstelling tot de verklaringen in het artikel, is de kerncentrale Doel 1 net zoals alle andere centrales gebouwd volgens de strengst geldende internationale criteria en is deze eenheid wel degelijk op sterke, betonnen fundamenten gebouwd", reageert Electrabel.
Deksels
Ten tweede, argumenteert de energieleverancier, voldoen alle reactordeksels, ook dat van Tihange 1, wel degelijk aan alle normen van sterkte. Ze worden regelmatig gecontroleerd door een onafhankelijk, erkend controleorganisme, klinkt het. Zo werd het reactordeksel van de centrale Tihange 1 in 1999 preventief vervangen na de controle-inspecties, maakt Electrabel zich sterk.
Druk
Tot slot wil Electrabel nog een vergelijking weerleggen die gemaakt wordt tussen de drukweerstanden van een reactorgebouw en een petfles. "Deze vergelijking gaat niet op en is incorrect. Alle Belgische reactorgebouwen zijn ontworpen om weerstand te bieden aan de hoogst mogelijke druk die zich in extreme omstandigheden kan voordoen in dergelijke types van reactoren". (belga/sam)
Minds are like parachutes, they work best when open!
Gewoon de hele top van tepco en de Japanse regering in een bus naar het strand rijden.quote:
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Als het nou echt niet schadelijk is (misschien spreken ze wel de waarheid!
"Wat we gaan doen blijft een verrassing maar neem je zwembroek mee!"
Obama takes plunge, swims in Gulf despite the worst oil spill in American history. CNN
Achteraf bleek dat Obama in een afgesloten baai had gezwommen maar het gaat om het idee toch? Dat moet men in Japan beter kunnen.
Dus het dumpen van hoogst radioactief water is plotseling niet schadelijk meer (we schrijven wetenschappelijke geschiedenis hier
) maar kennelijk heeft iig één iemand van de regering toch een beetje last van zijn geweten.Japan official apologizes for dumping radioactive water into Pacific
Overzichtje met alle kerncentrales op wereld niveau
zeer veel details
zeer veel details
Minds are like parachutes, they work best when open!
Men pompt er 2000 ton water per dag in!!, dit radioactieve water verdampt en/of verdwijnt vnl via de lekken. Aangezien de kleurstoffen niet via het zichtbare lek naar buiten kwamen lijkt het mij zo goed als zeker dat er ' n hele hoop direct de grond in loopt.quote:
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Geen idee. Ik vermoed dat het water er ook op tijd weer uit moet omdat het anders te warm wordt en het koeleffect wordt verminderd. Als dit noodsysteem dan minder vermogen heeft waardoor er net zoveel water uitgaat als erin, dan stijgt het niveau natuurlijk niet.
We must guard against the aquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.
Eisenhower1961.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.
Eisenhower1961.
hmmm...quote:Op maandag 4 april 2011 22:50 schreef Rikketik het volgende:
Ik zie wel dat Containment Vessel Integrity van reactor 3 naar groen is veranderd. Ik meen dat daar in de eerste of tweede week na de ramp nog wel schade aan vermoed werd. Daarna was het nog heel lang onduidelijk, maar nu lijkt 3 dus min of meer "out of the woods" te zijn qua schade (let wel: op dit moment). Een druppel op de gloeiende plaat aangezien het met 2 goed mis is, maar het is tenminste nog een beetje goed nieuws.
leuk dat het groen gekleurd is, maar er staat nog altijd bij: "estimated"
wb waarom het water niet stijgt: het verdampt en lekt sneller dan dat het waternivo kan stijgen.
Your mind don't know how you're taking all the shit you see
Dont believe anyone but most of all dont believe me
God damn right it's a beautiful day Uh-huh
Dont believe anyone but most of all dont believe me
God damn right it's a beautiful day Uh-huh
Helaas in 't japans, maar een recent overzichtsplaatje.. vermoedelijk lekt 't afvalwater via (2) of (3) de oceaan in.
Bron: http://www.asahi.com/phot(...)s3/110404jiko01.html
Bron: http://www.asahi.com/phot(...)s3/110404jiko01.html
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Wat menig mens hier misschien niet weten is dat er nog een typhoon seizoen aankomt..quote:
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Mijn god. Dus je bent bang om te gaan, maar omdat je een lousy 700 euro niet vergoed krijgt ga je toch?
Vooralsnog is er weinig aan de hand in Tokyo. Zeker als er je er geen maanden gaat zitten. Mocht je bang zijn voor het eten; McDonalds is je vriend. Al zou ik zelf liever een week lichtgevende vis eten, dan een week McDonalds...
Ik heb mijn reis gepland rond half Mei en zit nu te bedenken of ik wel naar Japan ga (gelukkig alleen de ticket besteld)...
Dumping radioactive water in sea should not happen again: Kaieda
TOKYO, April 5, Kyodo
Japan will try not to release any more low-level radioactive water into the Pacific Ocean from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power complex, an emergency measure to deal with the ongoing quake-triggered crisis there, industry minister Banri Kaieda said Tuesday.
''We would like to make it the last time,'' Kaieda told a press conference a day after plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. started releasing a total of 11,500 tons of contaminated water into the sea, an unprecedented move that required approval of the government's nuclear regulatory agency.
The move is partly aimed at opening up room to store more highly contaminated water currently in and around the No. 2 reactor's turbine building, which is hampering restoration work at the plant.
The chief of the ministry, to which the nuclear agency belongs, also apologized for raising concerns among the public, although he stressed that the disposal of water was ''unavoidable'' for safety reasons.
He said that the high-level radioactive water in and around the No. 2 turbine building is estimated at some 20,000 tons and should be transferred to the facility originally used for radioactive waste treatment ''as soon as possible.''
He also said he has ordered to enhance radiation monitoring as the impact on the marine environment could not be ''zero'' even if the water released into the sea contains only low levels of radioactive substances.
The level of radioactive substances in the water is up to 500 times the legal limit permitted for release in the environment.
The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency has said the disposal will pose ''no major health risk,'' but it remains uncertain how the marine environment will be affected when taking into account the impact of highly radioactive water already leaking into the sea from the plant located on the coast of Fukushima Prefecture.
The radiation-leaking plant is struggling with contaminated water found in various places in its premises, as massive amounts of water were poured into the reactors and spent fuel pools as a stopgap measure to cool them down. Seawater has also been found in some facilities after large tsunami waves hit the plant.
Serious damage to fuel rods from overheating could lead to the release of enormous amounts of radioactive materials into the environment, and some are already believed to have partially melted in the course of the crisis.
==Kyodo
TOKYO, April 5, Kyodo
Japan will try not to release any more low-level radioactive water into the Pacific Ocean from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power complex, an emergency measure to deal with the ongoing quake-triggered crisis there, industry minister Banri Kaieda said Tuesday.
''We would like to make it the last time,'' Kaieda told a press conference a day after plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. started releasing a total of 11,500 tons of contaminated water into the sea, an unprecedented move that required approval of the government's nuclear regulatory agency.
The move is partly aimed at opening up room to store more highly contaminated water currently in and around the No. 2 reactor's turbine building, which is hampering restoration work at the plant.
The chief of the ministry, to which the nuclear agency belongs, also apologized for raising concerns among the public, although he stressed that the disposal of water was ''unavoidable'' for safety reasons.
He said that the high-level radioactive water in and around the No. 2 turbine building is estimated at some 20,000 tons and should be transferred to the facility originally used for radioactive waste treatment ''as soon as possible.''
He also said he has ordered to enhance radiation monitoring as the impact on the marine environment could not be ''zero'' even if the water released into the sea contains only low levels of radioactive substances.
The level of radioactive substances in the water is up to 500 times the legal limit permitted for release in the environment.
The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency has said the disposal will pose ''no major health risk,'' but it remains uncertain how the marine environment will be affected when taking into account the impact of highly radioactive water already leaking into the sea from the plant located on the coast of Fukushima Prefecture.
The radiation-leaking plant is struggling with contaminated water found in various places in its premises, as massive amounts of water were poured into the reactors and spent fuel pools as a stopgap measure to cool them down. Seawater has also been found in some facilities after large tsunami waves hit the plant.
Serious damage to fuel rods from overheating could lead to the release of enormous amounts of radioactive materials into the environment, and some are already believed to have partially melted in the course of the crisis.
==Kyodo
There is only one religion
Gov't to toughen radioactivity inspections of marine products
TOKYO, April 5, Kyodo
Fisheries minister Michihiko Kano said Tuesday that the government intends to toughen inspections of marine products in light of the continuing leaks of radioactive materials into the Pacific Ocean from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
The Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Ministry will begin inspections soon in cooperation with the prefectural government of Ibaraki, south of the Fukushima Prefecture nuclear complex, while increasing the number of inspections off Choshi, Chiba Prefecture.
''The public has a strong interest in security and safety. I want to show clearly whether there is an impact on marine products,'' Kano said at a news conference, noting that experts' opinions will also be taken into consideration.
At a separate news conference, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said Japan has informed the relevant international authorities of the leaks of radioactive substances into the sea in accordance with the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea.
Elevated levels of radioactive iodine have been found in young launce caught off Kitaibaraki, Ibaraki Prefecture, prompting the Health, Labor and Welfare Ministry to advise that it not be consumed.
Different young launce also caught near Kitaibaraki was also contaminated with 526 bequerels per kilogram of radioactive cesium, exceeding the legal limit of 500 bequerels, a local fishery cooperative said Tuesday, prompting the group to ban fishing of young launce in all of Ibaraki Prefecture.
No officially permitted level of iodine has been set so far for fish and clams as the Nuclear Safety Commission says it is difficult for radioactive materials to accumulate in them.
But the detection of an iodine level of 4,080 bequerels per kilogram in young launce has prompted the ministry to consider setting such a level for fish and clams, health minister Ritsuo Hosokawa said Tuesday.
Edano also said the government plans to apply similar safety limits for vegetables and fishery products.
The Aomori prefectural government said Monday that faint traces of radiation were detected on the surface of a truck loaded with meat-and-bone powder at an industrial waste disposal plant in the city of Aomori. The powder was made from cattle raised in Fukushima and other prefectures in northeastern Japan.
The local government said it believes that the powder contained radioactive material because trucks loaded with other industrial waste did not emit radiation and because the radiation detected on the truck's surface was higher than background levels.
==Kyodo
TOKYO, April 5, Kyodo
Fisheries minister Michihiko Kano said Tuesday that the government intends to toughen inspections of marine products in light of the continuing leaks of radioactive materials into the Pacific Ocean from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
The Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Ministry will begin inspections soon in cooperation with the prefectural government of Ibaraki, south of the Fukushima Prefecture nuclear complex, while increasing the number of inspections off Choshi, Chiba Prefecture.
''The public has a strong interest in security and safety. I want to show clearly whether there is an impact on marine products,'' Kano said at a news conference, noting that experts' opinions will also be taken into consideration.
At a separate news conference, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said Japan has informed the relevant international authorities of the leaks of radioactive substances into the sea in accordance with the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea.
Elevated levels of radioactive iodine have been found in young launce caught off Kitaibaraki, Ibaraki Prefecture, prompting the Health, Labor and Welfare Ministry to advise that it not be consumed.
Different young launce also caught near Kitaibaraki was also contaminated with 526 bequerels per kilogram of radioactive cesium, exceeding the legal limit of 500 bequerels, a local fishery cooperative said Tuesday, prompting the group to ban fishing of young launce in all of Ibaraki Prefecture.
No officially permitted level of iodine has been set so far for fish and clams as the Nuclear Safety Commission says it is difficult for radioactive materials to accumulate in them.
But the detection of an iodine level of 4,080 bequerels per kilogram in young launce has prompted the ministry to consider setting such a level for fish and clams, health minister Ritsuo Hosokawa said Tuesday.
Edano also said the government plans to apply similar safety limits for vegetables and fishery products.
The Aomori prefectural government said Monday that faint traces of radiation were detected on the surface of a truck loaded with meat-and-bone powder at an industrial waste disposal plant in the city of Aomori. The powder was made from cattle raised in Fukushima and other prefectures in northeastern Japan.
The local government said it believes that the powder contained radioactive material because trucks loaded with other industrial waste did not emit radiation and because the radiation detected on the truck's surface was higher than background levels.
==Kyodo
There is only one religion
2 held for selling unauthorized drug over radioactive contamination
TOKYO, April 5, Kyodo
Tokyo police arrested two people Tuesday for allegedly selling an unauthorized drug by telling customers that it is effective for detoxification, including dealing with internal contamination with radioactive substances.
One of the two is Fumitaka Umewaka, 50, a Kobe-based health food dealer, who is suspected of violating the pharmaceutical affairs law. Umewaka said on a promotional website that the drug absorbs radioactive substances and removes them from the human body, the police said.
He allegedly posted the advertisement after the current nuclear crisis broke out at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station in northeastern Japan which was hard hit by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami.
Umewaka, who has no license to sell medicine, sold 10 bottles of the unauthorized liquid drug, called premium zeolite, to three people between Feb. 17 and March 29 for a total of 47,500 yen, the police said.
The police said they believe the suspects sold the drug to more than 1,000 people mainly in northeastern and eastern Japan following the disaster, with sales totaling about 24 million yen.
==Kyodo
TOKYO, April 5, Kyodo
Tokyo police arrested two people Tuesday for allegedly selling an unauthorized drug by telling customers that it is effective for detoxification, including dealing with internal contamination with radioactive substances.
One of the two is Fumitaka Umewaka, 50, a Kobe-based health food dealer, who is suspected of violating the pharmaceutical affairs law. Umewaka said on a promotional website that the drug absorbs radioactive substances and removes them from the human body, the police said.
He allegedly posted the advertisement after the current nuclear crisis broke out at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station in northeastern Japan which was hard hit by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami.
Umewaka, who has no license to sell medicine, sold 10 bottles of the unauthorized liquid drug, called premium zeolite, to three people between Feb. 17 and March 29 for a total of 47,500 yen, the police said.
The police said they believe the suspects sold the drug to more than 1,000 people mainly in northeastern and eastern Japan following the disaster, with sales totaling about 24 million yen.
==Kyodo
There is only one religion
uit dezelde site :quote:
Helaas in 't japans, maar een recent overzichtsplaatje.. vermoedelijk lekt 't afvalwater via (2) of (3) de oceaan in.
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Bron: http://www.asahi.com/phot(...)s3/110404jiko01.html
http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201104040141.htmlquote:
Radiation fallout from Fukushima plant will take "months" to stop
Officials of Tokyo Electric Power Co., the plant operator, want to restore the normal cooling system that would cool both the reactor core and the storage tanks holding the spent fuel rods. Doing so would allow sufficient water to cool the core down to under 100 degrees, at which point it would reach a cold shutdown. The core and storage pool would then become stable and there would be no danger of radioactive materials leaking to the atmosphere through hydrogen explosions, and also no need for water to be pumped into the core.
The time frame of several months given by Hosono is believed to be the time needed to achieve a cold shutdown, but reaching that stage will not be easy. The first task is to remove the contaminated water that has accumulated in the basements of the turbine buildings, which are next to the reactor buildings.
volgende week lees je er niks meer over en iedereen wordt langzaam vergiftigd.
nou, ik hoef geen sushi meer.
megalomaniac
als ik het goed lees dan hebben ze in japan wel een max aan cesium wat in vis mag zitten (500 bequerels ) maar niet aan iodine 
There is only one religion
Ik denk dat dat komt omdat de halfwaardetijd van Cesium een stuk hoger is dan van de meeste Jodium isotopen (met uitzondering van 129I).quote:
als ik het goed lees dan hebben ze in japan wel een max aan cesium wat in vis mag zitten (500 bequerels ) maar niet aan iodine
Stralingsmetingen in steden rondom Fukushima (gaat de goede kant op):
Meetgegevens van JAIF - pdf
Meetgegevens van JAIF - pdf
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Ja boem hebben ze al gedaan maar om nou al verheugt optimistisch te zijn ....nog even nietquote:
Stralingsmetingen in steden rondom Fukushima (gaat de goede kant op):
Meetgegevens van JAIF - pdf
There is only one religion
Japan defends radioactive water disposal, vows to fully inform world
TOKYO, April 5, Kyodo
Japan defended Tuesday its dumping of massive low-level radioactive water from the crisis-hit Fukushima nuclear plant, saying the action does not violate international laws, and pledged to fully inform the international community of Tokyo's steps to tackle the ongoing emergency.
Foreign Minister Takeaki Matsumoto said at a press conference that Tokyo had briefed diplomatic corps in Japan on the start of radioactive water disposal hours before the plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. began releasing the liquid into the Pacific Ocean on Monday evening.
The minister stressed that the discharge poses ''no significant health threats'' to human bodies, but said Tokyo will explain to other countries about the background of measures taken at the Fukushima plant, where the nation's worst nuclear crisis is unfolding following the March 11 massive earthquake and tsunami.
He also said the dumping does not violate the 1986 Convention on Early Notification of a Nuclear Accident, which obligates nations to provide data such as the accident's time, location and radiation releases to affected states when harmful trans-boundary radiation release is feared.
The treaty also encourages voluntary reporting of accidents that do not meet the criteria for mandatory notification. Matsumoto said Tokyo has notified the International Atomic Energy Agency of the radiation leak in accordance with the pact.
Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano separately said Japan contacted the IAEA rather than individual neighbors because the water has been released from the plant on the Pacific coast. The top government spokesman also said the discharge would ''not cause immediate radioactive contamination in neighboring countries.''
Matsumoto also said Japan has been making its best efforts to minimize the sea contamination in line with the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea.
South Korea has aired concern over the radioactive water release, Yonhap News Agency reported Tuesday, citing South Korean foreign ministry officials.
==Kyodo
TOKYO, April 5, Kyodo
Japan defended Tuesday its dumping of massive low-level radioactive water from the crisis-hit Fukushima nuclear plant, saying the action does not violate international laws, and pledged to fully inform the international community of Tokyo's steps to tackle the ongoing emergency.
Foreign Minister Takeaki Matsumoto said at a press conference that Tokyo had briefed diplomatic corps in Japan on the start of radioactive water disposal hours before the plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. began releasing the liquid into the Pacific Ocean on Monday evening.
The minister stressed that the discharge poses ''no significant health threats'' to human bodies, but said Tokyo will explain to other countries about the background of measures taken at the Fukushima plant, where the nation's worst nuclear crisis is unfolding following the March 11 massive earthquake and tsunami.
He also said the dumping does not violate the 1986 Convention on Early Notification of a Nuclear Accident, which obligates nations to provide data such as the accident's time, location and radiation releases to affected states when harmful trans-boundary radiation release is feared.
The treaty also encourages voluntary reporting of accidents that do not meet the criteria for mandatory notification. Matsumoto said Tokyo has notified the International Atomic Energy Agency of the radiation leak in accordance with the pact.
Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano separately said Japan contacted the IAEA rather than individual neighbors because the water has been released from the plant on the Pacific coast. The top government spokesman also said the discharge would ''not cause immediate radioactive contamination in neighboring countries.''
Matsumoto also said Japan has been making its best efforts to minimize the sea contamination in line with the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea.
South Korea has aired concern over the radioactive water release, Yonhap News Agency reported Tuesday, citing South Korean foreign ministry officials.
==Kyodo
There is only one religion
Sushi die je koopt in Nederland komt meestal gewoon van vis uit Noorwegenquote:
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uit dezelde site :
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http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201104040141.html
volgende week lees je er niks meer over en iedereen wordt langzaam vergiftigd.
nou, ik hoef geen sushi meer.
dus de toegestane waarden worden gezet aan de hand van wat nu gevonden wordt ?!quote:
Gov't to toughen radioactivity inspections of marine products
TOKYO, April 5, Kyodo
No officially permitted level of iodine has been set so far for fish and clams as the Nuclear Safety Commission says it is difficult for radioactive materials to accumulate in them.
But the detection of an iodine level of 4,080 bequerels per kilogram in young launce has prompted the ministry to consider setting such a level for fish and clams, health minister Ritsuo Hosokawa said Tuesday.
Edano also said the government plans to apply similar safety limits for vegetables and fishery products.
dat is makkelijk.
en europa doet vrolijk mee aan deze vergiftiging.
EU laat fors hoger radioactief japans voedsel toe.
megalomaniac
nou dat is niet geheel waar er worden nu zelf voor stoffen waar eerder geen limiet was limieten gesteld en ja naar aanleiding van de gevonden waarden op dit moment .quote:
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dus de toegestane waarden worden gezet aan de hand van wat nu gevonden wordt ?!
dat is makkelijk.
en europa doet vrolijk mee aan deze vergiftiging.
EU laat fors hoger radioactief japans voedsel toe.
ps haal geen lambiekje bs aan koste me 3 a 4 pagina's om te achterhalen wat de bronnen en waarheid was
There is only one religion
valt mee hoor, die topic gevolgd en is echt geen bs.quote:
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nou dat is niet geheel waar er worden nu zelf voor stoffen waar eerder geen limiet was limieten gesteld en ja naar aanleiding van de gevonden waarden op dit moment .
ps haal geen lambiekje bs aan koste me 3 a 4 pagina's om te achterhalen wat de bronnen en waarheid was
http://www.evmi.nl/nieuws(...)ngsnormen-op%27.htmlquote:
AMSTERDAM – Consumentenorganisatie Foodwatch verzet zich tegen het oprekken van de normen voor radioactiviteit in voedingsmiddelen. De Duitse zusterorganisatie heeft ontdekt dat de Europese normen afgelopen weekend naar boven zijn bijgesteld.
Die normen zijn bijgesteld door een noodverordening. De verruiming geldt voor producten uit Japan, dat nu al twee weken kampt met radioactieve besmettingen op land en in zee na een meltdown in de kerncentrale Fukushima Daiichi.
In Europa gold tot voor kort per kilogram voedsel en diervoeders een maximum van 600 becquerel radioactiviteit van cesium-134 en cesium-137, stelt Foodwatch. Voor babyvoeding en voor zuivelproducten was de norm overigens lager: 370 becquerel. Afgelopen weekend is op 27 Maart 2011 door noodverordening 297/2011 de grens verruimd:
- 400 becquerel per kilogram voor flesvoeding,
- 1000 becquerel per kilogram voor zuivelproducten,
- 1250 becquerel per kilogram voor andere voedingsmiddelen,
- 12.500 becquerel per kilogram voor visolie of specerijen.
Invoerverbod
Een invoerverbod voor Japanse levensmiddelen en diervoeders is op dit moment passender dan een verruiming van de normen voor radioactiviteit in ons voedsel, vindt Bart van Opzeeland van Foodwatch Nederland. Er zijn geen aanwijzingen dat er sterk vervuilde producten uit Japan op de markt zijn. Onze import van voedsel uit Japan is maar klein. Wat Foodwatch zorglijk vindt, is de plotselinge verhoging van de grenswaarden en het feit dat deze aanzienlijke verruiming niet door Nederland bekend is gemaakt. Ook in Duitsland werd de verruimde norm verzwegen, stelt de organisatie.
Bij nucleaire noodsituaties
De ramp in Tsjernobyl in 1987 legde de basis voor de maatregel. De EU-verordening
3954/1987 werd toen in het leven geroepen: in het geval van een 'nucleaire noodsituatie' kunnen grenswaarden worden verhoogd om voedseltekorten te voorkomen. “Krankzinnig om deze regel nu toe te passen", vindt Bart Van Opzeeland. "In Europa is geen nucleaire noodsituatie en er dreigen geen tekorten. Foodwatch vindt de invoer uit Japan te gering om de veiligheidsnormen voor Europese burgers aan te passen. "
was jij niet degeen die gister vroeg te stoppen met ruzie maken terwijl ik slechts mensen uitdaagde om hun verwijten hard te maken dat mijn geplaatste bronnen onzin zijn ?
en nu ga je daar zelf mee beginnen....niet echt leuk.
edit: overigens nog een vraagje, is het zo dat die Bq's gelden per stof ?
dus je heb bijvoorbeeld 400 Bq/kg voor cesium , 400 Bq/kg voor Iodine , 400 Bq/kg voor X ?
wat als al die stoffen nu tegelijk in eén visje zitten van een kilo ?
dan heb je dus 1200 Bq/kg Iodine/Cesium/X ?
Eén voordeel dan, je hoeft niet veel kruiden meer toe te voegen.
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megalomaniac
leuk die plaatjes maar de tekst is onleesbaar.quote:
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megalomaniac
De buren beginnen te klagen over overlast.
dit zegt toch wel iets, de japanse regering zegt dat het geen kwaad kan maar omliggende landen zijn bezorgd.
ik wist niet dat de geleerden per land blijkbaar erg verschillende opleidingen volgden.
dit zegt toch wel iets, de japanse regering zegt dat het geen kwaad kan maar omliggende landen zijn bezorgd.
ik wist niet dat de geleerden per land blijkbaar erg verschillende opleidingen volgden.
http://www.depers.nl/buit(...)dioactief-water.htmlquote:
Zuid-Korea is bezorgd over 11.500 ton licht radioactief water dat buurland Japan de Stille Oceaan in pompt. Het ministerie van Buitenlandse Zaken heeft de Japanners dinsdag om meer informatie over de lozingen gevraagd.
Special: Japan Plutonium aangetroffen in bodem FukushimaJapan loost radioactief water
Dichten van lek in Japanse reactor mislukt
,,We hebben geen wetenschappelijke gegevens, dus stellen we vragen om feiten te bevestigen", aldus een woordvoerder die zei dat Zuid-Korea ,,een beetje bezorgd" is.
Het water is afkomstig uit de beschadigde kerncentrale Fukushima I. De maatregel is bedoeld om meer opslagcapaciteit te creëren voor zwaar radioactief water. Reddingswerkers gebruiken grote hoeveelheden water om de gehavende reactoren te koelen. Zo moet het verder smelten van de brandstofstaven worden voorkomen.
Volgens exploitant Tepco is het licht radioactieve water niet gevaarlijk voor dieren en planten en voor de menselijke voedselketen.
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