Nog meer (ook via):quote:Op donderdag 31 maart 2011 08:14 schreef Monidique het volgende:
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Achja...quote:Some local resentment has also been fuelled by the rebels’ hunt for “fifth columnists” supposedly colluding with the Gaddafi forces. In Bin Jawad, The Independent witnessed around 220 men, either members of the Hosseini clan or people associated with them, being dragged out of their homes, beaten up and taken away. The “arrests” took place as the rebels traded fire at the gates of the town with regime troops. Residents, already frightened, saw doors being kicked down by Shabaab fighters who also fired at windows where they claimed to have seen snipers.
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No one dares to go out at night [in Benghazi], as rounds of machine gun fire thunder through the empty streets. National Council members are no longer seen in public and they’re hard to reach for interviews. “There are death squads on both sides,” [bold mine-DL] says Nasser Buisier, who fled to the US when he was 17, but has returned for the revolution. Buisier’s father is a former information minister, but was also a critic of Gadhafi, and his son doesn’t have much that’s positive to say about the new leadership. “Most of them never had to make sacrifices, they were part of the regime and I don’t believe they want elections,” Buisier says. He believes the National Council is on the verge of collapse [bold mine-DL] and once that happens, he’d rather not be in Benghazi.
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Around 100 regime loyalists have recently been imprisoned. Armed young men are searching houses and also arresting sub-Saharan Africans, anyone they assume to be mercenaries and all those they simply refer to as spies, locking them up in the same prisons once used to hold opposition members. They are then shown off to busloads of journalists. The prisoners sit in dark cells that stink of feces and urine. They say they’re from Mali, Chad, Sudan, that they’re construction workers and were dragged out of their houses.
The rebels’ mood, exuberant and lighthearted in the beginning, has shifted. Their rhetoric is becoming increasingly tense and they dismiss any criticism as propaganda. One former air force commander — now “spokesman for the revolutionary armed forces” — says, “anyone who fights against our revolutionary army is fighting against the people and will be treated accordingly.”
Another man, also a member of the National Council, talks about “enemies of the revolution” and declares that anyone who doesn’t join the rebel side will get a taste of revolutionary justice: “We know where they are and we will find them.”
These are the same threats, word for word, that Gadhafi uses to scare his opponents.
Vergeet het maar. Libië was rijk vergeleken met veel landen in Afrika en zelfs rijker dan landen in Europa. Gaddafi was ondanks dat het een gore smeerlap is wel iemand die zorgde voor goedkope huisvesting, eten, gratis onderwijs, goedkope benzine. Dat gaan mensen in het westen niet accepteren en watals ze naar het oosten willen. Dit gebeurt nooit.quote:Op donderdag 31 maart 2011 20:14 schreef Chooselife het volgende:
Ik hoor ook stemmen opgaan die een splitsing van het land suggereren. Een rijk oosten, gecontroleerd door de "rebellen". Hier zit namelijk al de olie in de grond. Het zal een Emiraat-achtige staat worden. Een echte oliestaat. En een relatief arm westen, nog steeds onder bewind van Khadaffi.
'oud' nieuws.quote:Op donderdag 31 maart 2011 20:32 schreef naatje_1 het volgende:
Opnieuw vertrek hoge figuur uit regering Libië: http://bit.ly/idUtbz
quote:Envoy says high-rank Libyans trying to defect
UNITED NATIONS Most high-level Libyan officials are trying to defect but are under tight security and having difficulty leaving the country, a top Libyan diplomat now supporting the opposition said Thursday.
Ibrahim Dabbashi, Libya's deputy U.N. ambassador, told The Associated Press that Libya's U.N. Mission, which now totally supports the opposition, knew two days in advance that Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa planned to defect on Wednesday.
He said the mission had been waiting for about 10 days for Thursday's defection of Ali Abdessalam Treki, a former foreign minister selected by Moammar Gadhafi to be the new U.N. ambassador.
"We know that most of the high Libyan officials are trying to defect, but most of them are under tight security measures and they cannot leave the country, but we are sure that many of them will benefit from the first chance to be out of the country and to defect," Dabbashi said.
"I don't think it is easy," he said. "But anyway, who has the will, he will find the way."
Dabbashi wouldn't name any senior Libyans considering defecting, saying only "we have some indications that some others will defect."
Asked why senior Libyan officials are defecting or want to defect now instead of last month when opposition protests against Gadhafi's 41-year rule began, Dabbashi said it was a reaction to the regime's attacks on civilians.
"The normal human behavior is to disconnect from this regime," he said.
Dabbashi said Koussa's defection in Britain is especially significant because he was the chief of external intelligence for about eight years and foreign minister for about two years.
"This is a big blow to the regime," he said.
"I think that he has a lot of secret information about the regime about the current operations by Libya during the last decades," Dabbashi said. "I think also he knows a lot, has a lot of information about what's happening in Libya since Feb. 15."
He said the defection of Treki in Cairo "is important news also."
"He is a little bit late ... but anyway it is never too late. It is good that he joined the Libyan people and to announce his defection of the regime," Dabbashi said.
Before Koussa's defection, the Nicaraguan government said he sent a letter appointing Miguel D'Escoto Brockmann, a former priest who served as Nicaragua's first foreign minister after the 1979 triumph of the Sandinista revolution, as Libya's new U.N. ambassador.
U.N. spokesman Farhan Haq said Nicaragua's U.N. Mission has rescheduled a news conference with D'Escoto for Friday. A news conference scheduled for Thursday was canceled without explanation.
Haq said the United Nations hasn't officially received any letter from Libya regarding a change of credentials involving D'Escoto.
He said the U.N. did receive a copy of a note from Nicaragua addressed to all U.N. missions which attached a copy of Koussa's letter to the secretary-general but he stressed that the U.N. has never received that letter.
U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice said Wednesday that D'Escoto needs a G-1 visa the American visa required for diplomatic representation if he wants to represent Libya.
If he tries to do so on the tourist visa he now holds, she warned, "he will soon have his visa status reviewed."
Although D'Escoto was born in Los Angeles, California, and once held dual citizenship, Rice said he has renounced his U.S. citizenship
Uiteraard.quote:Op donderdag 31 maart 2011 20:53 schreef naatje_1 het volgende:
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Maar nu pas op een nederlandse site
Volledig ongepast, maar ik moet bij Misrata steeds aan het dorpje van Asterix en Obelix denkenquote:Op donderdag 31 maart 2011 21:40 schreef horned_reaper het volgende:
Hoe kan het nou dat Kadaffi Brega heeft ingenomen?
Wordt er nu afgerekend met de rebellen?
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De ratten verlaten het schip.quote:
Hoe kan dat nou? Heb je die debielen gezien die de oppositie vormen? Die schiete elkaar dwars overhoop met hun raketafval. Gaddafi trekt zich terug, lokt ze een stad in en als die dappere mongolen 1 kogel horen racen ze weer terug naar Benghazi.quote:Op donderdag 31 maart 2011 21:40 schreef horned_reaper het volgende:
Hoe kan het nou dat Kadaffi Brega heeft ingenomen?
Wordt er nu afgerekend met de rebellen?
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Eens, Ghadaffi is helemaal niet zo stom en zwak zoals in het westen wordt gesteld, ondanks dat er nu meer dan een week bommen op z'n troepen vallen blijft hij zichzelf nog steeds staande houden en heeft hij schijnbaar nog redelijk wat steun in "het westen".quote:Op donderdag 31 maart 2011 23:02 schreef Lagrinta het volgende:
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Hoe kan dat nou? Heb je die debielen gezien die de oppositie vormen? Die schiete elkaar dwars overhoop met hun raketafval. Gaddafi trekt zich terug, lokt ze een stad in en als die dappere mongolen 1 kogel horen racen ze weer terug naar Benghazi.
Het blijft Afrika hè, het is geen Europa.quote:Op donderdag 31 maart 2011 23:21 schreef Lagrinta het volgende:
Die Hans Jaap Melissen zei het ook. Ging ie mee naar de frontlinie, begonnen een paar andere mongolen door de linies heen te schieten. Het is pure slapstick gewoon. De kleding, het Allah Akbar geschreeuw, de verotte pick ups enzovoort.
Vanmiddag op het nieuws over Ivoorkust ook. Zag je een dappere puberneger met een Arafat theedoek om de kop stoer hangend uit een Hi-Lux met zn Ak 47 de lucht in schieten. Alsof hij het dorp onder controle had.
Chaos zit in hun bloed, zie je al bij Spanjaarden.quote:Op donderdag 31 maart 2011 23:26 schreef remlof het volgende:
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Het blijft Afrika hè, het is geen Europa.
RT dus.quote:In other news, US has CIA operatives in Libya training rebels. World surprised to see US and Al Qiada fighting together.
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