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[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door gebrokenglas op 27-03-2011 15:23:17 ]How can I make this topic about me?![]()
Niks aan de hand hoor, deuren en ramen sluitenquote:![]()
Gelukkig zijn er al aliens gesignaleerd die de helpende hand toestekenquote:Op vrijdag 25 maart 2011 20:10 schreef Darklight het volgende:
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Niks aan de hand hoor, deuren en ramen sluiten(00:37 van filmpje)
Ik hou me bezig met het organiseren van reizen naar Argentinie, Chili en Peru voor Tipica Reizen.![]()
Ze menen het!quote:Op vrijdag 25 maart 2011 12:44 schreef HaerdenC het volgende:
dag overzicht vandaag wat later
Er is nu ook zirconium-95 gevonden in het zeewater aan de rampcentrale. Dat duidt er volgens experten op dat de laag zirconium die rond de splijtstofstaven ligt weg aan het "roesten" is. Dat zou komen door het zout in het zeewater. Verschillende experts uit de hele wereld hebben de Japanners al van in het begin gewaarschuwd dat koelen met zeewater gevaarlijk was.
Waar denken de experten dat de waterstof vandaan kwam die het een na het andere gebouw opblies? Straks bijna twee weken geleden.Het feit dat er waterstof vrijkwam, en in zulke grote hoeveelheden, was teken dat "de de laag zirconium die rond de splijtstofstaven ligt weg aan het roesten is".quote:The source of the hydrogen is a quite different one: The claddings of the fuel rods which keep the fuel together are made from alloys of zirconium. When the rods are no longer covered by water during an accident they reach temperatures much higher than they designed for, and the metal starts to oxidize at about 1000 °C. Since there is no free oxygen around the reactor core the metal reacts with the water vapour and takes the oxygen from there. When oxygen is removed from the water molecule hydrogen is left.
What is generated is hydrogen, not oxyhydrogen gas. The latter is defined as a mixture of hydrogen and pure oxygen in a ratio of exactly 2:1. Here the oxygen is not released, however, because it is used up for the oxidation of the zirconium. [[url=http://www.hy-ramp.eu/news/regional-news/hydrogen-in-nuclear-accidents-what-is-the-role-of-the-gas-in-fukushima]bron[/url]]
Men wil gewoon nergens bevestiging over geven. Zelfs niet als het zeewater zelf zirconium bevat. Net als dat we nu al een week horen dat een reactorvat mogelijk gescheurd is.
En als ik dan toch bezig ben, ik geloof er ook niks van dat die medewerkers die met stralingsziekte zijn opgenomen geen waterdichte veiligheidslaarzen hadden aangetrokken. Alsof ze zelf mogen beslissen wat ze aantrekken en alsof niet alle kleding die men draagt waterdicht is, zeker de schoenen. Het is waarschijnlijk zelfs grotendeels luchtdicht.
Waarom men met zo'n BS verklaring komt kun je over speculeren, om nog steeds te downplayen of om te verbloemen dat het een kamikaze missie was ofzo denk ik.![]()
alsof er een ander optie was...quote:erschillende experts uit de hele wereld hebben de Japanners al van in het begin gewaarschuwd dat koelen met zeewater gevaarlijk was.Everything in the world is about sex except sex. Sex is about power.![]()
Kijk al alleen naar dat plaatje in de OP, dat is echt een mega explosie
Ik geloof er niks van dat die fuel rods nog in reactorgebouw 3 liggen![]()
Dat koelen met zeewater zullen die Japanners wel besloten hebben als een tijdelijke oplossing die zondag, totdat de stroomtoevoer weer hersteld was.
En toen leek het allemaal nog redelijk te behappen (geen enkel gebouw of reactor was verder
beschadigd, ze zaten alleen zonder stroom).
Dat er nu al bijna twee weken stroomproblemen zijn en dat die 4 gebouwen enorm beschadigd zijn hadden ze waarschijnlijk niet verwacht, anders waren ze hopelijk wel direct begonnen met zoet water te regelen voor koeling.How can I make this topic about me?![]()
Three reactors at Japans Fukushima nuclear plant remain precarious, a state that could last for weeks or even months, Frances Institute for Radiological Protection and Nuclear Safety (IRSN) says.
It said on Friday it remains greatly concerned by the situation in the No 1, 2 and 3 reactor units
Vienna - The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said Friday it could offer no timeline on when Japanese engineers could stop radioactive leakage from the stricken Fukushima plant, even though the likely source of the emissions has been identified.
'We don't know how long there will be releases,' senior IAEA technical advisor Graham Andrew told reporters at the agency's seat in Vienna.
In addition to suspected leaks of the vessel's shielding reactor cores at the plant's units 1 and 2, data also indicated a leak at reactor 3, IAEA officials said.
The IAEA's chief safety official, Denis Flory, said a number of steps would be necessary before engineers at Fukushima could start to assess whether there are, in fact, leaks before they could start to fix them.
First the reactor would have to be cooled and water would have to be injected to create an environment in which people could operate in the building and assess the damage.
'So we are not in this phase at all,' he said.![]()
UPDATE, 11:00 am, Friday, March 25, 2011. Greenpeace Germany has released a statement that, according to an analysis of radiation releases by consultant Dr. Helmut Hirsch, Fukushima is now a Level 7 accident on the international scale (currently it is officially ranked as a Level 5, comparable to the Three Mile Island accident of 1979; Level 7 would make it comparable to Chernobyl).![]()
Volstorten is nog geen optie. Je zal de brandstof af moeten laten koelen als je er nu beton opgooit vreet het daar snel doorheen of kan er druk opbouwen.![]()
ja, veel blushelicopters dan.quote:Op vrijdag 25 maart 2011 22:23 schreef thesiren.nl het volgende:
Volstorten is nog geen optie. Je zal de brandstof af moeten laten koelen als je er nu beton opgooit vreet het daar snel doorheen of kan er druk opbouwen.![]()
Volgens Samsom toch wel hoor. Schijnt al klaar te staan. Enige hoop is nog dat ze water het in het reactorvat kunnen krijgen. Zo niet dan hebben ze weinig keus.quote:![]()
hoeveel radioactiviteit gaat er nog vrijkomen , want het zijn gewoon nu open radioactieve elementen waar men maar water op blijft gooien wat weer de natuur (lucht,zee, grond) in komt, de gevolgen worden met de dag ernstiger.There is only one religion![]()
Vermoedelijk zitten er heel veel radioactieve isotopen in dat zout in die pools als ze die gaan uitspoelen met zoet water zou ik voorlopig maar niet gaan zwemmen zonder loden onderbroek daar.![]()
Trouwens waarom zien we geen thermal video beelden voorbij komen? Je kan aan de hand van thermal imaging precies localiseren waar de hitte vandaan komt en welke temperatuur de bronnen hebben.![]()
Eerdere bronnen meldden dat de "water-elektriciens" een stralingsdosis van 170-180mSv hadden binnengekregen, wat mee zou vallen. De Japanse publieke omroep vermeldt echter dat het om veel meer gaat, namelijk 2000-6000mSv. Een potentieel dodelijke hoeveelheid als het om het hele lichaam gaat. Nog steeds gevaarlijk als het om een enkel lichaamsdeel gaat.
Heel triest dat het zo gelopen is. Onnodig ook. Een derde medewerker die wel waterdichte laarzen aan had, heeft geen symptomen van besmetting.quote:2 N-plant workers need medical treatment (NHK World)
Medical radiation experts say 2 of the 3 workers exposed to high levels of radiation at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant may need to receive treatment for burns.
The 3 workers underwent close examination at the National Institute of Radiological Sciences in Chiba Prefecture.
At a news conference on Friday, doctors from the institute said that 2 of the workers were standing in radioactive water for about 2 hours and were partially exposed to strong radiation, between 2,000 and 6,000 millisieverts.
The doctors said the workers' skin show no signs of injury but they fear that symptoms may develop within 3 weeks' time. If this occurs, the workers will receive the same treatment used for burns.
The doctors also indicated that so far, the internal symptoms are not serious enough to require special treatment.
As for the other worker, who was wearing waterproof boots and has no symptoms of internal radiation exposure, the doctors say he will not likely develop a skin disorder.
The director of the institute, Makoto Akashi, says the 2 workers should be able to carry on with their daily lives without discomfort. He added the 3 workers will be discharged early next week.Ik in een aantal worden omschreven: Ondernemend | Moedig | Stout | Lief | Positief | Intuïtief | Communicatief | Humor | Creatief | Spontaan | Open | Sociaal | Vrolijk | Organisator | Pro-actief | Meedenkend | Levensgenieter | Spiritueel![]()
Een kraanwerker die in de centrale aan het werk was en de aardbeving maar net overleefde, vertelt:quote:Japanese worker inside stricken reactor recalls quake (Reuters, za 25 maart 0:15)
(Reuters) - Hiroyuki Nishi narrowly escaped death the day the monster earthquake struck Japan two weeks ago when a 200-ton hook on a crane came crashing down a mere two meters (6 feet) from him during the convulsions.
Now, the place where he cheated death -- inside reactor No. 3 at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant -- is the reason he can't go home. Reactor No. 3 has been leaking high radioactivity and its operator, Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO), can't say why. Days of dousing it with water in a desperate attempt to cool its used but probably exposed fuel rods have been inconclusive. Workers who got radioactive water on their shoes were hospitalized.
The Japanese government has imposed a 20-km (12-mile) evacuation radius around the plant because of the radiation danger, and Nishi's hometown of Minamisoma sits right on the cusp to the north. Nishi, 31, works for a contractor that did construction jobs around the nuclear power plant and inside its six reactors. On March 11, he was inside the reactor building directing a ceiling-mounted heavy-duty crane, moving scaffolding material to be taken outside. At 2:46 p.m. the quake struck with titanic force, at magnitude 9.0 the most massive earthquake Japan has ever recorded. It was as long as it was colossal, lasting more than two minutes, and also led to a huge tsunami. More than 27,000 people are dead or missing.
"I felt things shaking, and then it went crazy," Nishi recalled in an interview. "I was shouting, Stop! Stop!" Then the lights went out, leaving about 200 workers inside the reactor in near-darkness since the structure has no windows.
A small red emergency light started blinking. "Then some kind of white smoke or steam appeared and everyone started choking," Nishi said. "We all covered our mouths and ran for the door." But the door leading outside was locked, shut down automatically during the temblor to contain any leakage. The workers were stuck. "People were shouting 'Get out, get out!'" Nishi said. "Everyone was screaming." Pandemonium reigned for about 10 minutes with the workers shouting and pleading to be allowed out, but supervisory TEPCO employees appealed for calm, saying that each worker must be tested for radiation exposure.
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TEPCO began testing workers but the crescendo grew. Nishi recalled angry shouts from among the workers including expletives from a couple of Canadians. "We were shouting that the reactor structure was going to collapse or that a tsunami might come," Nishi recalled. Radiation exposure was the last thing on their minds. Eventually, TEPCO workers tested about 20 people before giving up and throwing open the doors.
The freed workers sprinted for their cars or to higher ground. Nishi ended up in his car with a co-worker who also lived in Minamisoma, about a half-hour drive away. They made it out of the nuclear plant in time to avoid the killer tsunami but were hardly prepared for the drive home. It was like a journey through an apocalyptic landscape. Traffic was jammed, and strong aftershocks made the car flail repeatedly. Nishi and his friend's cellphones went off constantly with "earthquake-coming" alerts, and the car radio blasted frantic reports of unspeakable damage from the tsunami and warnings of further tidal inundations. They passed wrecked buildings, cars that looked as though they had tumbled from bridges, and dead horses and cows by the roadside. Several homes crumbled before their eyes from aftershocks.
Nishi couldn't get through to his wife Azusa, 27, by phone. He was panic-stricken about not only his nine-month-old son Tsubasa at home but his 6-year-old son Hayato who was at kindergarten at the time the earthquake hit. "I was shouting at the phone: Please, please connect!" he said. Nishi and his colleague lapsed into fatalistic doomsday conversations. "We talked about three possibilities," he said. "That our entire families had died. That some had died and some lived. Whether our houses were still there." The thought that all family members might have survived didn't enter into their minds. "Seeing what was happening, we just knew it wasn't possible," Nishi said. As they finally got to Minamisoma, it became clear that Nishi's colleague's home couldn't be standing. His wife, 7-month-old son and parents making it out seemed remote. Nishi dropped his friend off and went to his own home. It was partially collapsed and in a shambles from the earthquake, but the tsunami had stopped 100 meters (yards) short of the house, which was four km (2.5 miles) inland. No one seemed to be home. Loudspeakers in town told people to head to evacuation centers; the closest one was at Kashima Middle School, the same junior high school Nishi had attended. Nishi made his way there, and at around 7:30 that night he arrived at the school -- and found his family there, intact, including his mother. "I saw my wife, and I was just so, so happy," he said, audibly choking up. "I let loose with my emotions. I kissed my kids' faces all over; I touched their faces everywhere. I kept telling them, 'I'm so happy you're alive.' There were lots of tears." The next day Nishi went to his home and found he could squeeze in the door. He hurriedly collected a few items: warm clothes, instant noodles, bottled water.
His colleague's parents are missing and presumed dead, but his wife and son survived. Nishi and his family have relocated to an apartment in neighboring Yamagata prefecture. He gets a government allowance for three months, but it's only for housing. He longs to go back to his house, and retrieve precious family photos and his beloved surfboard and wetsuit.
He also has mixed feelings about his work at the nuclear plant. "I had work and got paid, so I don't think badly of it," he said. "But, they said over and over that it was safe. I just want to ask why."
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En het wordt er niet beter op ook?quote:Op zaterdag 26 maart 2011 01:24 schreef Piet_Piraat het volgende:
Best wel amateuristisch prutswerk daar eigenlijk.
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