MO Midden-Oosten
Bespreek hier de actuele situatie omtrent het Midden-Oosten.
Laten we het als NAVO dan wel aub bij een no-fly zone houden, geen interventie.quote:Op maandag 7 maart 2011 19:54 schreef no1uknow het volgende:
Als dat waar is van die stad dan is het zeker te weten oorlog, dan gaat het buitenland ingrijpen. Een 'beter excuus' kan je niet krijgen als USA en bondgenoten zijnde.
quote:LibyanTNC LibyanTNC
Zawia under heavy attack, Qadfi wants to destroy the city completely #libya
feb17voices LPC from #Zintan: Revolutionaries captured weapons from military battalion. Interrogating 14 captured soldiers, including a colonel. #Libya
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Snooker is top!!!
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Falasteeni Mohammadquote:
Just spoke to doctor with family in Zawyiah who tell him the city has effectively been destroyed. very distraught. #libya any confirmation?
Wachten op verdere bevestiging . Damn als dit waar is.
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Laten we daar ook polisie-agenten gaan trainenquote:
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Laten we het als NAVO dan wel aub bij een no-fly zone houden, geen interventie.
(ironisch idee)
Dat ligt er natuurlijk maar aan.quote:
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Laten we het als NAVO dan wel aub bij een no-fly zone houden, geen interventie.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Video op de site : John Simpson came under fire as he travelled to Bin Jawad from Ras Lanuf
Gaddafi forces hit key rebel town
Pro-Gaddafi forces have launched several air strikes on Libya's rebel-held oil port of Ras Lanuf.
One attack destroyed a car carrying a family, killing at least one person, Reuters agency reported.
Bin Jawad, 50km (30 miles) to the west, has fallen to forces loyal to Libyan leader Col Gaddafi, correspondents say, checking the rebels' westward progress.
The UN says 200,000 people have fled the violence, where the revolt is well into its third week.
Nato is considering military options in response to the situation in Libya, US President Barack Obama has said.
"We send a very clear message to the Libyan people that we will stand with them in the face of unwarranted violence and the continuing suppression of democratic ideals that we have seen there," he said.
Migrants fleeing
Throughout Monday, rebels fought off an intense counter-offensive by Gaddafi forces, which have been attacking towns both near Tripoli and in the east after recent rebel gains.
As well as the attcks on Ras Lanuf, 600km (400 miles) east of the capital, pro-Gaddafi forces launched a renewed tank and artillery attack on Zawiya, a rebel-held town 50km west of Tripoli, Reuters reported an exiled Libyan opposition group as saying
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Gaddafi forces hit key rebel town
Pro-Gaddafi forces have launched several air strikes on Libya's rebel-held oil port of Ras Lanuf.
One attack destroyed a car carrying a family, killing at least one person, Reuters agency reported.
Bin Jawad, 50km (30 miles) to the west, has fallen to forces loyal to Libyan leader Col Gaddafi, correspondents say, checking the rebels' westward progress.
The UN says 200,000 people have fled the violence, where the revolt is well into its third week.
Nato is considering military options in response to the situation in Libya, US President Barack Obama has said.
"We send a very clear message to the Libyan people that we will stand with them in the face of unwarranted violence and the continuing suppression of democratic ideals that we have seen there," he said.
Migrants fleeing
Throughout Monday, rebels fought off an intense counter-offensive by Gaddafi forces, which have been attacking towns both near Tripoli and in the east after recent rebel gains.
As well as the attcks on Ras Lanuf, 600km (400 miles) east of the capital, pro-Gaddafi forces launched a renewed tank and artillery attack on Zawiya, a rebel-held town 50km west of Tripoli, Reuters reported an exiled Libyan opposition group as saying
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gpdMiddleEast GPD Middle East
buiten nu de dagelijkse anti-Kadhafi demonstratie. Overal lopen jongens met vlaggen en geweren, iedereen draagt baret, lijkt op Che Guevara
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gpdMiddleEast GPD Middle East
Zojuist kwamen er paar rebellen langs die kip met rijst uitdeelden aan de aanwezige journalisten. Iedereen zit nu te schransen. Lekker!
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gpdMiddleEast GPD Middle East
Zit nu in het enige kamertje in #Benghazi waar er nog internet is. Soort van persruimte, naast het gebouw waar de rebellen vanuit opereren
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buiten nu de dagelijkse anti-Kadhafi demonstratie. Overal lopen jongens met vlaggen en geweren, iedereen draagt baret, lijkt op Che Guevara
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gpdMiddleEast GPD Middle East
Zojuist kwamen er paar rebellen langs die kip met rijst uitdeelden aan de aanwezige journalisten. Iedereen zit nu te schransen. Lekker!
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gpdMiddleEast GPD Middle East
Zit nu in het enige kamertje in #Benghazi waar er nog internet is. Soort van persruimte, naast het gebouw waar de rebellen vanuit opereren
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1925: The US ambassador to Nato, Ivo Daalder, said there had been a fall in air activity in Libya in recent days, and questioned how useful a no-fly zone would be. "The capabilities that are being used to attack the rebel forces and indeed the population will be largely unaffected by a no-fly zone," he said.
Hij heeft al die air strikes gemist?
1925: The US ambassador to Nato, Ivo Daalder, said there had been a fall in air activity in Libya in recent days, and questioned how useful a no-fly zone would be. "The capabilities that are being used to attack the rebel forces and indeed the population will be largely unaffected by a no-fly zone," he said.
Hij heeft al die air strikes gemist?
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Gaat iig nog wel even duren dus. Daarnaast is Rusland tegen elke vorm van militair ingrijpen. Dus een resolutie in de VN veiligheidsraad komt er niet door lijkt me.quote:Volgens de Amerikaanse minister van Defensie Gates moet dan eerst de Libische luchtverdediging worden uitgeschakeld. De Britse minister Hague zegt dat het nog weken kan duren voor het vliegverbod er is.
AlArabiya_Eng AlArabiya English
NATO launches AWACS surveillance of Libya http://goo.gl/7qcA7
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NATO launches AWACS surveillance of Libya http://goo.gl/7qcA7
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sommige geruchten gaan dat nu vliegende piloten buitenlanders, huurlingen, zijn.
anderzijds is tactiek natuurlijk mogelijk, ook dat de anti's al zo ver hebben kunnen optrekken. wellicht een val.
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1915: Jon Leyne says that the government has, in theory, a lot of military equipment and planes in Sirte, but that very little has been used so far. The question is whether Col Gaddafi has enough loyal troops remaining to operate them.
anderzijds is tactiek natuurlijk mogelijk, ook dat de anti's al zo ver hebben kunnen optrekken. wellicht een val.
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1915: Jon Leyne says that the government has, in theory, a lot of military equipment and planes in Sirte, but that very little has been used so far. The question is whether Col Gaddafi has enough loyal troops remaining to operate them.
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Reuters Reuters Top News
FLASH: Gulf Arab states call for imposing a no-fly zone in #Libya - Foreign Ministers statement
FLASH: Gulf Arab states call for imposing a no-fly zone in #Libya - Foreign Ministers statement
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gpdMiddleEast GPD Middle East
Omdat er nauwelijks politie/gezag is in Benghazi zijn er inmiddeals al vijf journalisten beroofd door criminelen....
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gpdMiddleEast GPD Middle East
...Maar ik moet toegeven, die rebellen hier zijn uiterst vriendelijk. Nog nooit zoiets gezien. je hebt nergens toestemming voor nodig...
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gpdMiddleEast GPD Middle East
...je mag alles filmen, kunt zo naar frontlinie toerijden, je wordt niet gehinderd, mag iedereen interviewen, ieder kantoor binnenlopen...
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Omdat er nauwelijks politie/gezag is in Benghazi zijn er inmiddeals al vijf journalisten beroofd door criminelen....
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gpdMiddleEast GPD Middle East
...Maar ik moet toegeven, die rebellen hier zijn uiterst vriendelijk. Nog nooit zoiets gezien. je hebt nergens toestemming voor nodig...
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gpdMiddleEast GPD Middle East
...je mag alles filmen, kunt zo naar frontlinie toerijden, je wordt niet gehinderd, mag iedereen interviewen, ieder kantoor binnenlopen...
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AFP reports: Attacks against civilians in Libya may amount to "crimes against humanity", making it diifficult for the world to stand "idly by", NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said.
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quote:danmike1 Mike
Doctor from Al-Zawiyah has called - he managed to escape from city. All telecommunications cut off Ghadaffi bombing houses with tanks.
AlmanaraMedia Almanara Libya
Zawya Under Very Hard attack! Calling all Media to cover the story. We Have one contact number in Zawya which works speaking in arabic.
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Zawya Under Very Hard attack! Calling all Media to cover the story. We Have one contact number in Zawya which works speaking in arabic.
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feb17voices Feb 17 voices
AJA: Foreign ministers of Gulf Cooperation Council call for an emergency meeting of the Arab League to discuss Libyan issue. #feb17 #libya
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AJA: Foreign ministers of the Gulf Cooperation Council call for a no-fly zone over #Libya. #feb17
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AJA: Foreign ministers of Gulf Cooperation Council call for an emergency meeting of the Arab League to discuss Libyan issue. #feb17 #libya
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AJA: Foreign ministers of the Gulf Cooperation Council call for a no-fly zone over #Libya. #feb17
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NATO starts 24/7 surveillance of Libya
CNN) -- NATO has launched around-the-clock surveillance flights of Libya as it considers various options for dealing with escalating violence in the war-torn country, America's ambassador to the organization told reporters Monday.
Representatives of key Western powers also highlighted the possibility of establishing a no-fly zone in Libya -- part of growing campaign to break strongman Moammar Gadhafi's grip on power.
British, French and U.S. officials were working on a draft text that includes language on a no-fly zone, diplomatic sources at the United Nations told CNN.
The language in the text will deal with triggers rather than timelines for taking such a step, one diplomat noted. If gross violations of human rights are committed, the diplomat added, the elements of the text could be quickly turned into a resolution.
Any resolution on military intervention in Libya, however, would be subject to a vote by the 15 members of the U.N. Security Council. Such intervention could face sharp criticism from Russia and China, who rarely approve of such measures.
"The violence that's been taking place and perpetrated by the government in Libya is unacceptable," U.S. President Barack Obama said at the White House. Moammar Gadhafi's government "will be held accountable for whatever violence continues to take place there."
Obama stressed that NATO is considering a wide range of responses -- including military options -- for dealing with the crisis.
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney later cited three potential responses under active consideration: establishing the no-fly zone, military-backed humanitarian aid, and stronger enforcement of the U.N. arms embargo.
Carney downplayed speculation about the possibility of providing arms to the Libyan rebels, telling reporters that "it would be premature to send a bunch of weapons to a post office box in eastern Libya."
"We need to not get ahead of ourselves in terms of the options we're pursuing," he warned.
A senior U.S. official familiar with the administration's deliberations on Libya denied a report in British press that the administration had asked Saudi Arabia to arm the rebels.
U.K. Foreign Secretary William Hague told members of the British parliament, however, that "we are making contingency plans for all eventualities in Libya."
NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen told reporters in Belgium that the organization has no immediate intention to intervene in the Libyan civil war. But "as a defense alliance and a security organization, it is our job to conduct prudent planning for any eventuality," he said.
Rasmussen stressed that it is important to "remain vigilant" in light of "systemic attacks" by Gadhafi's regime against the Libyan population. "The violation of human rights and international humanitarian law is outrageous," he said.
Rasmussen also noted that the defense ministers from member states will meet Friday and Saturday to discuss how the organization can help partner countries in North Africa and the broader Middle East.
"We can see a strong wind of change blowing across the region -- and it is blowing in the direction of freedom and democracy," he asserted.
U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, meanwhile, appointed a new special envoy to Libya to discuss the crisis with officials in Tripoli, the United Nations said in a statement Monday.
Abdelilah Al-Khatib, a former foreign minister of Jordan, will "undertake urgent consultations with the authorities in Tripoli and in the region on the immediate humanitarian situation as well as the wider dimensions of the crisis," according to the statement.
As diplomats debated various options, the violence in Libya continued to intensify. Forces loyal to Gadhafi took aim at the rebel-controlled town of Ras Lanuf, launching aerial strikes meant to help crush the uprising against him.
Death toll estimates from the conflict have reached as high as 2,000 people. Roughly 200,000 people have fled Libya, with nearly equal numbers going to Tunisia and Egypt, according to the United Nations.
CNN) -- NATO has launched around-the-clock surveillance flights of Libya as it considers various options for dealing with escalating violence in the war-torn country, America's ambassador to the organization told reporters Monday.
Representatives of key Western powers also highlighted the possibility of establishing a no-fly zone in Libya -- part of growing campaign to break strongman Moammar Gadhafi's grip on power.
British, French and U.S. officials were working on a draft text that includes language on a no-fly zone, diplomatic sources at the United Nations told CNN.
The language in the text will deal with triggers rather than timelines for taking such a step, one diplomat noted. If gross violations of human rights are committed, the diplomat added, the elements of the text could be quickly turned into a resolution.
Any resolution on military intervention in Libya, however, would be subject to a vote by the 15 members of the U.N. Security Council. Such intervention could face sharp criticism from Russia and China, who rarely approve of such measures.
"The violence that's been taking place and perpetrated by the government in Libya is unacceptable," U.S. President Barack Obama said at the White House. Moammar Gadhafi's government "will be held accountable for whatever violence continues to take place there."
Obama stressed that NATO is considering a wide range of responses -- including military options -- for dealing with the crisis.
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney later cited three potential responses under active consideration: establishing the no-fly zone, military-backed humanitarian aid, and stronger enforcement of the U.N. arms embargo.
Carney downplayed speculation about the possibility of providing arms to the Libyan rebels, telling reporters that "it would be premature to send a bunch of weapons to a post office box in eastern Libya."
"We need to not get ahead of ourselves in terms of the options we're pursuing," he warned.
A senior U.S. official familiar with the administration's deliberations on Libya denied a report in British press that the administration had asked Saudi Arabia to arm the rebels.
U.K. Foreign Secretary William Hague told members of the British parliament, however, that "we are making contingency plans for all eventualities in Libya."
NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen told reporters in Belgium that the organization has no immediate intention to intervene in the Libyan civil war. But "as a defense alliance and a security organization, it is our job to conduct prudent planning for any eventuality," he said.
Rasmussen stressed that it is important to "remain vigilant" in light of "systemic attacks" by Gadhafi's regime against the Libyan population. "The violation of human rights and international humanitarian law is outrageous," he said.
Rasmussen also noted that the defense ministers from member states will meet Friday and Saturday to discuss how the organization can help partner countries in North Africa and the broader Middle East.
"We can see a strong wind of change blowing across the region -- and it is blowing in the direction of freedom and democracy," he asserted.
U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, meanwhile, appointed a new special envoy to Libya to discuss the crisis with officials in Tripoli, the United Nations said in a statement Monday.
Abdelilah Al-Khatib, a former foreign minister of Jordan, will "undertake urgent consultations with the authorities in Tripoli and in the region on the immediate humanitarian situation as well as the wider dimensions of the crisis," according to the statement.
As diplomats debated various options, the violence in Libya continued to intensify. Forces loyal to Gadhafi took aim at the rebel-controlled town of Ras Lanuf, launching aerial strikes meant to help crush the uprising against him.
Death toll estimates from the conflict have reached as high as 2,000 people. Roughly 200,000 people have fled Libya, with nearly equal numbers going to Tunisia and Egypt, according to the United Nations.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Stevig.
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1953: Foreign minister from the six-nation Gulf Arab states bloc have released this statement on Libya: "The Gulf Cooperation Council demands that the UN Security Council take all necessary measures to protect civilians, including enforcing a no-fly zone over Libya."
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1953: Foreign minister from the six-nation Gulf Arab states bloc have released this statement on Libya: "The Gulf Cooperation Council demands that the UN Security Council take all necessary measures to protect civilians, including enforcing a no-fly zone over Libya."
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NicRobertsonCNN Nic Robertsonquote:
Saw #Libya army reinforcing around #Zawiya, saw abt more 150 troops seen heading in that direction.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
Here's a video released by them showing some of the weapons & equipment they captured after one attack:
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NicRobertsonCNN
Battle for #Ziwiya appears to continue despite govt claims it now under their control. We got within mile of city center today.
Center of #Zawiya still controlled by opposition. We had to stop about 100 yds from #Libya army checkpt
Mile from city center, could hear heavy anti-aircraft fire and thud of artillery and small arms fire, indicating this still active zone.
Saw #Libya army reinforcing around #Zawiya, saw abt more 150 troops seen heading in that direction.
Battle for #Ziwiya appears to continue despite govt claims it now under their control. We got within mile of city center today.
Center of #Zawiya still controlled by opposition. We had to stop about 100 yds from #Libya army checkpt
Mile from city center, could hear heavy anti-aircraft fire and thud of artillery and small arms fire, indicating this still active zone.
Saw #Libya army reinforcing around #Zawiya, saw abt more 150 troops seen heading in that direction.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Het kan nog veel ergerquote:
Ik sta echt versteld van het ouderdom van al die wapens.
Wapens hoeven niet perse state-of-the-art te zijn om goed te kunnen werken, integendeel als het minder geavanceerd is kan er ook minder stuk
Ik heb er geen verstand van. Het schijnt echter zo te zijn dat de elite troepen van G's zoon de beste wapens hebben, dat zijn ook degene die o.a. SAS training hebben gehad.quote:
Ik sta echt versteld van het ouderdom van al die wapens.
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Is nergens voor nodig. De no fly zone boven Irak is binnen een dag doorgevoerd. En toen hebben ze niks van de luchtverdediging uitgeschakeld. Ja along the way. Terwijl Saddams air defense tot de betere behoorde.quote:
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Gaat iig nog wel even duren dus. Daarnaast is Rusland tegen elke vorm van militair ingrijpen. Dus een resolutie in de VN veiligheidsraad komt er niet door lijkt me.
Air defense van Libië zal bejaard zijn denk ik. En trouwens, de Arab League staat er al achter, das een veel sterkere medestander als Rusland lijkt mij....
Hij zoekt naar excuses want er zitten een paar NL militairen vast.quote:
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1925: The US ambassador to Nato, Ivo Daalder, said there had been a fall in air activity in Libya in recent days, and questioned how useful a no-fly zone would be. "The capabilities that are being used to attack the rebel forces and indeed the population will be largely unaffected by a no-fly zone," he said.
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Saadi Gaddafi blames brother, Saif al-Islam, for policy failings: http://goo.gl/WNfXn
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Saadi Gaddafi warns of civil war if father quits: http://goo.gl/WNfXn
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Saadi Gaddafi warns of civil war if father quits: http://goo.gl/WNfXn
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Het zijn smoesjes. Als het om Irak of Afghanistan gaat kan alles. En dat zeg ik niet alleen, dat is dit weekend al bevestigd.quote:
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Gaat iig nog wel even duren dus. Daarnaast is Rusland tegen elke vorm van militair ingrijpen. Dus een resolutie in de VN veiligheidsraad komt er niet door lijkt me.
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De Browning .50 machinegeweer komt uit 1948 geloof ik. Werkt nog als de beste.quote:
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Het kan nog veel erger
Wapens hoeven niet perse state-of-the-art te zijn om goed te kunnen werken, integendeel als het minder geavanceerd is kan er ook minder stuk
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1918quote:
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De Browning .50 machinegeweer komt uit 1948 geloof ik. Werkt nog als de beste.
Dat kan ook. Dan heb ik toevallig met 1 geschoten die in '48 gebouwd was.quote:
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NicRobertsonCNN Nic Robertson
At presser, #Libya FM says superpowers plotting against #Libya but its territorial integrity is sacrosanct & we will die for it he says
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Back in #Tripoli this evening, presser with FM: he says US & UK & France conspiring to divide & partition #Libya
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Back in #Tripoli this evening, presser with FM: he says US & UK & France conspiring to divide & partition #Libya
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Die M2 Browning komt ergens uit de jaren '30 (wiki: 1933), ontwikkeld in de VS. Een van de langst in dienst zijnde wapens volgens mij.
Col. Mukhtar Azzantani (in Zintan) declaring his allegiance to the revolution against #Gaddafi
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quote:libyanexpat Ahmed
Getting distress calls from people just outside zawiya saying the whole city has been destroyed. Ya Allah please protect our families #Libya
Die gasten met Libya in hun naam hebben erg vaak nogal 'erg overdreven overkomende' tweets.quote:
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2032: In his interview with Al Arabiya (see 1949) Saadi Gaddafi appeared to partly blame his brother, Saif al-Islam, for the unrest. He said Saif al-Islam and ministers had been charged with addressing concerns over issues such as rising prices, but that "there are things they did not do", Reuters reports
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Tuurlijk kan het zonder de goedkeuring van de VN. Dat hebben ze inderdaad bij Irak ook gewoon gedaan.quote:
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Het zijn smoesjes. Als het om Irak of Afghanistan gaat kan alles. En dat zeg ik niet alleen, dat is dit weekend al bevestigd.
Punt is nu echter dat de NAVO heeft verklaard de goedkeuring van de VN veiligheidsraad te moeten (willen) hebben. Gebeurd dit niet dan zal de NAVO wss niks doen, ook zal zouden ze het wel kunnen.
Tripolitanian Libyan
#Zawya is in URGENT need of support, the government forces have launched a full-scale attack. #Libya #Feb17
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#Zawya is in URGENT need of support, the government forces have launched a full-scale attack. #Libya #Feb17
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Niet alleen politiek. Gates heeft gezegd dat het een te ingewikkelde grote operatie is. Maar technisch/militair kan het gewoon. Het zijn smoesjes.quote:
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Tuurlijk kan het zonder de goedkeuring van de VN. Dat hebben ze inderdaad bij Irak ook gewoon gedaan.
Punt is nu echter dat de NAVO heeft verklaard de goedkeuring van de VN veiligheidsraad te moeten (willen) hebben. Gebeurd dit niet dan zal de NAVO wss niks doen, ook zal zouden ze het wel kunnen.
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Tja kan best zou zijn. Het is echter nogal een grote stap, zo'n no-fly zone.quote:
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Niet alleen politiek. Gates heeft gezegd dat het een te ingewikkelde grote operatie is. Maar technisch/militair kan het gewoon. Het zijn smoesjes.
Als ze de luchtafweer eerst moeten uitschakelen en je schiet een vliegtuig of heli van Khadaffi neer ben je in feite weer in een oorlog verwikkelt. Iets waar niemand eigenlijk op zit te wachten na Afghanistan en Irak.
Website van Al Jazeera doet het niet?
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Tripolitanian Libyan
Electricity in #Zawya cut off, dozens of tanks are entering the city, constant helicopter fly-overs, 100s of gov forces enter
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Tripolitanian Libyan
#Gaddafi forces are literally burning the city of #Zawya - I expect the death toll to be shocking #Libya
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Electricity in #Zawya cut off, dozens of tanks are entering the city, constant helicopter fly-overs, 100s of gov forces enter
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Tripolitanian Libyan
#Gaddafi forces are literally burning the city of #Zawya - I expect the death toll to be shocking #Libya
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Constant shelling of #Zawya #Libya, this is pure genocide - the tanks aren't aiming, just firing
Als ik de tweets mag geloven gaat het fout, echt helemaal fout daar.
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