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  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 08:25:01 #176
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Al Jazeera has learned that Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan president, has offered to mediate a solution to the crisis in Libya, and in the last few hours, Colonel Gaddafi accepted the offer.

Gaddafi spoke to Chavez and agreed in principle to a mediation plan. We've also learned that the Arab League has welcomed the offer.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 08:26:49 #177
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Evan Hill (@evanchill), Al Jazeera's online producer, was on a road near the port town of Brega earlier today when a fighter jet fired a missile that impacted metres away. The town saw intense fighting throughout Wednesday between pro- and anti-government forces. The jet was piloted by forces loyal to Muammar Gaddafi. The video below was taken moments after the missile impact.

~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 08:27:48 #178
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1s.gif Op donderdag 3 maart 2011 08:25 schreef yavanna het volgende:
8:53am

Al Jazeera has learned that Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan president, has offered to mediate a solution to the crisis in Libya, and in the last few hours, Colonel Gaddafi accepted the offer.

Gaddafi spoke to Chavez and agreed in principle to a mediation plan. We've also learned that the Arab League has welcomed the offer.
Ze gaan de oppositie dood praten. ;(
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De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 08:34:04 #179
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Wat zegt de buitenlandse media erover? Dit kan zomaar eens een aanleiding worden voor 'verdere actie' ;(
  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 08:35:24 #180
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Gaddafi rebels look to Tripoli, peace plan mooted



BREGA, Libya | Thu Mar 3, 2011 1:55am EST

BREGA, Libya (Reuters) - Muammar Gaddafi's Libyan army faced an increasingly organized and confident rebel force on Thursday which is appealing for international support and looking to take its military successes west toward Tripoli.

As the struggle between Gaddafi loyalists and rebels who have taken swathes of Libya intensified, one report said Gaddafi and the president of the Arab League had agreed to a peace plan from Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez.

News network Al Jazeera said the plan would involve a commission from Latin America, Europe and the Middle East trying to reach a negotiated outcome between the Libyan leader and rebel forces for this North African oil-producing country.

A senior official told Reuters in Caracas he did not know what Gaddafi had said about Chavez's idea. Libyan and Arab League officials were not immediately available for comment.

On the military front, Libyan rebels repulsed a land and air offensive by Gaddafi's forces on the eastern oil terminal of Brega as the defiant leader warned foreign powers of "another Vietnam" if they intervened in the popular uprising against his 41-year rule.

Rebels in their eastern bastion of Benghazi called for U.N.-backed air strikes to halt attacks by African mercenaries they said Gaddafi was using against his own people.

Analysts cautioned against drawing firm conclusions from fast moving events in a situation of erratic communications.

"We should keep in mind that both the government and the rebels are trying to spin an image of momentum," said Shashank Joshi, an analyst at Britain's Royal United Services Institute.

The uprising, the bloodiest yet against long-serving rulers in the Middle East and North Africa, is causing a humanitarian crisis, especially on the Tunisian border where tens of thousands of foreign workers are trying to flee to safety.

Oil prices held near 2- year highs on Thursday due to fears the unrest could spread to other OPEC producers.

Government troops, backed by air power, launched an attack on Wednesday and briefly captured Brega, an oil export terminal 800 km (500 miles) east of Tripoli.

Opposition forces took back the town they have held for about a week, rebel officers said. They were ready to move west toward the capital, they said, if Gaddafi refused to quit.

Basking in the adulation of loyalists in Tripoli, Gaddafi launched into a tirade against the "armed gangsters" he said were behind the unrest, part of a conspiracy to colonize Libya and seize its oil.

"We will enter a bloody war and thousands and thousands of Libyans will die if the United States enters or NATO enters," Gaddafi told Tripoli supporters at a gathering televised live.

"We are ready to hand out weapons to a million, or 2 million or 3 million, and another Vietnam will begin."

A Tripoli resident and Gaddafi opponent, who did not want to be identified, told Reuters: "Gaddafi will hang on for a while. It's not going to be easy for an unarmed crowd to face highly armed forces eager to shoot their own people."

The assault on Brega appeared to be the most significant military operation by Gaddafi since the uprising erupted in mid-February and set off a confrontation that Washington says could descend into a long civil war unless Gaddafi steps down.

Witnesses said the attack was backed by heavy weapons and air strikes. One said Gaddafi's forces were 2-3 km from the city center and had 300-350 rebels pinned down at an oil industry airport on the city outskirts.

DUTCH SOLDIERS HELD

The Dutch Defense Ministry said on Thursday Libyan authorities had arrested three Dutch soldiers on Sunday when they tried to evacuate a Dutch citizen from the city of Sirte, east of Tripoli.

"A helicopter from a ship off Libya's coast was used. It was a consular evacuation. During the operation the helicopter was grounded by an armed unit," Defense Ministry spokesman Otte Beeksma said, adding the Netherlands was in talks with Libyan authorities about the release of the soldiers.

In Benghazi, the rebel National Libyan Council called for air strikes. Spokesman Hafiz Ghoga said: "We call for specific attacks on strongholds of these mercenaries. The presence of any foreign forces on Libyan soil is strongly opposed. There is a big difference between this and strategic air strikes."

In a possible response to Western hints that the opposition needs to unify to facilitate rebel links with outside powers, Ghoga said a former justice minister, Mustafa Abdel Jalil, would be chairman of the council which will have 30 members and be based in Benghazi before moving later to Tripoli.

Libya's deputy ambassador to the United Nations, one of the first Libyan diplomats to denounce Gaddafi and defect, said the United Nations may back a resolution for a no-fly zone if the National Libyan Council requested it officially.

The U.S. government is cautious about imposing a no-fly zone over Libya, stressing the diplomatic and military risks involved, but has moved warships into the Mediterranean.

Any sort of foreign military involvement in Arab countries is a sensitive topic for Western nations uncomfortably aware that Iraq suffered years of bloodletting and al Qaeda violence after a 2003 U.S.-led invasion toppled Saddam Hussein.

The Arab League said it was against direct outside military intervention, but could enforce a no-fly zone in cooperation with the African Union. Realistically though, only the United States could carry out such an operation.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said U.S. military assets could be used to support the movement of supplies to areas in need but a no-fly zone was not an immediate priority.

Spain became the latest European country to offer help to refugees, saying it would send a plane loaded with humanitarian aid to the Tunisian-Libyan border on Thursday. The plane will be used to ferry Egyptian migrants from Djerba to Cairo.

(Additional reporting by Yvonne Bell and Chris Helgren in Tripoli, Tom Pfeiffer, Alexander Dziadosz in Benghazi, Yannis Behrakis and Douglas Hamilton; Christian Lowe and Hamid Ould Ahmed in Algiers, Souhail Karam and Marie-Louise Gumuchian in Rabat; Sarah Mikhail in Cairo: Writing by Peter Millership and Janet Lawrence)

~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 08:52:41 #181
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quote:
1s.gif Op donderdag 3 maart 2011 08:34 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:
Wat zegt de buitenlandse media erover? Dit kan zomaar eens een aanleiding worden voor 'verdere actie' ;(
Die hebben allemaal het nieuws uit de Telegraaf ;)
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  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 09:45:20 #182
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Ik heb nu college, tot later :W
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CNN brengt het nu wel als "breaking news".
  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 09:56:01 #184
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Ik hoop dat Rosenthal dit keer wat beter z'n best doet. :')
ok, lets go again
m'n eigen fantopic :') *t-8one fan-topic*
danku lieve fans
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Het begint te klinken als een schending van de Weense Conventie.
  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 10:06:09 #186
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1s.gif Op donderdag 3 maart 2011 09:56 schreef t-8one het volgende:
Ik hoop dat Rosenthal dit keer wat beter z'n best doet. :')
Zou jij gerust zijn als je als gijzelaar afhankelijk was van Rosenthal? Ik niet.

Maar hopen dat zijn diplomaten meer ervaring hebben.
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  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 10:06:42 #187
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De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 10:07:26 #188
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1s.gif Op donderdag 3 maart 2011 10:06 schreef ioko het volgende:

[..]

Zou jij gerust zijn als je als gijzelaar afhankelijk was van Rosenthal? Ik niet.

Maar hopen dat zijn diplomaten meer ervaring hebben.
Die man is indd een grote grap, jammer dat hij op zo'n belangrijke positie zit.

Maargoed, het is wel heel vervelend allemaal.
Gadaffi kan de militairen (gijzelaars) gaan gebruiken als pressiemiddel zodat de NAVO zich er niet mee gaat bemoeien en er minder druk komt vanuit andere landen.

[ Bericht 16% gewijzigd door t-8one op 03-03-2011 10:17:58 ]
ok, lets go again
m'n eigen fantopic :') *t-8one fan-topic*
danku lieve fans
  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 10:13:13 #189
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Goeiemorgen allen :) nog nieuws onder de horizon?
  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 10:14:55 #190
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1s.gif Op donderdag 3 maart 2011 10:13 schreef Dekatria het volgende:
Goeiemorgen allen :) nog nieuws onder de horizon?
Chavez gaat kijken of er tussen G en de oppositie te onderhandelen valt. :')
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De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 10:20:56 #191
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Cafeïne is ook maar een drug.
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http://www.facebook.com/a(...)0537530969414&page=2

Misschien staan hier nog mooie foto's tussen voor de liefhebbers.
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De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 10:24:13 #192
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Dus die 3 nl soldaten zijn dus al gevangen afgelopen zondag en daar wordt nu pas melding van gemaakt?
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quote:
1s.gif Op donderdag 3 maart 2011 10:06 schreef ioko het volgende:

[..]

Zou jij gerust zijn als je als gijzelaar afhankelijk was van Rosenthal? Ik niet.

Maar hopen dat zijn diplomaten meer ervaring hebben.
Mijn oom, die bij BuZa werkt, kraakte Rosenthal gister nog even goed af - een onbenul volgens hem. Aan de andere kant wel prima dat het Nederlandse leger mensen evacueert, maar hoe kan het nou dat de Britten in het geheim honderdvijftig man daar weghalen, en dat wij gepakt worden als we drie mensen willen evacueren?
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'However', replied the universe. 'This fact has not created in me a sense of obligation.'
  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 10:27:22 #194
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1s.gif Op donderdag 3 maart 2011 10:26 schreef Zapato het volgende:

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Mijn oom, die bij BuZa werkt, kraakte Rosenthal gister nog even goed af - een onbenul volgens hem. Aan de andere kant wel prima dat het Nederlandse leger mensen evacueert, maar hoe kan het nou dat de Britten in het geheim honderdvijftig man daar weghalen, en dat wij gepakt worden als we drie mensen willen evacueren?
die engelse heli had verdomd veel geluk er werd op geschoten en raak ook
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  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 10:28:19 #195
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De een was in een stedelijk gebied, de ander in de open woestijn... Nogal een verschil. ;)
  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 10:29:45 #196
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1s.gif Op donderdag 3 maart 2011 10:14 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Chavez gaat kijken of er tussen G en de oppositie te onderhandelen valt. :')
De grote leider voorop :z _O-
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How was Libya doing under the rule of Gadaffi? How bad did the people have it? Were they oppressed as we now commonly accept as fact? Let us look at the facts for a moment.

Before the chaos erupted, Libya had a lower incarceration rate than the Czech republic. It ranked 61st. Libya had the lowest infant mortality rate of all of Africa. Libya had the highest life expectancy of all of Africa. Less than 5% of the population was undernourished. In response to the rising food prices around the world, the government of Libya abolished ALL taxes on food.

People in Libya were rich. Libya had the highest gross domestic product (GDP) at purchasing power parity (PPP) per capita of all of Africa. The government took care to ensure that everyone in the country shared in the wealth. Libya had the highest Human Development Index of any country on the continent. The wealth was distributed equally. In Libya, a lower percentage of people lived below the poverty line than in the Netherlands.
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23474
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  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 10:34:48 #198
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1s.gif Op donderdag 3 maart 2011 10:14 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Chavez gaat kijken of er tussen G en de oppositie te onderhandelen valt. :')
Leuk maar is dat uberhoupt een vruchtbaar idee, denk dat velen libiers niet zitten te wachten op een andere gek.
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  donderdag 3 maart 2011 @ 10:36:40 #199
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(CNN) -- Three Dutch Navy personnel were captured by armed men loyal to Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi during an evacuation operation on Sunday, the Netherlands Ministry of Defence said Thursday.
"Intensive diplomatic negotiations" are going on between Dutch and Libyan authorities and relatives of the crew are being kept informed, said Otte Beeksma, a spokesman for the Dutch Ministry of Defense.
The crew members were trying to evacuate a Dutch citizen from the Sirte area when they were taken prisoner, he said.
They deployed in a Lynx helicopter from the HMS Tromp, anchored off the Libyan coast, he said.
Gadhafi warns against intervention Libyan army reclaims crossing

The ship's communications officer and Dutch consular authorities immediately tried to negotiate their release, he said.
The Dutch citizen they were trying to rescue and another European Union national have been transferred to the Dutch Embassy in Tripoli, Beeksma said, without explaining whether the Dutch Navy had ever made contact with them.
News of their capture has not been made public until now to prevent further endangering the Navy personnel involved, the spokesman said.
It is not clear if the captors are Libyan military personnel, militias or tribesmen. Libya has not commented publicly on the incident.
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Uri kan wel z'n Irannetje goedmaken nu; ze zitten al in de ambassade dus?
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