PES 2011 #001 Met Koninklijk bezoek op 30 september

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PES 2011 is all about freedom of movement, and the new game gives the user total control over their team. The new trailer showcases the sheer level of detail the PES Productions team has included in the new game, with the most realistic inter-player physics around allowing players to use their strength attributes to jostle players off the ball, while the results of over 100 hours of motion-capture sessions is shown as PES 2011’s players effortlessly slip into moves, run off the ball, or close down the opposition. Every aspect of the game’s animation has been reworked, and the result is an amazingly fluid experience.

The new trailer also shows the revolutionary new feint system linking all new tricks and skills together making one-on-one situations key to gameplay and the motion-blur effects used within replays to complement the TV-style presentation prevalent throughout the game, while fans of the South American Copa Libertadores competitions will delights in its inclusion within the new footage. PES 2011 enjoys the most extensive number of gameplay additions, control options, and animations to date – and central to these is an all-new power bar that allows the user to determine the exact strength and placement of passes, shots or throw-ins in the game.

Konami will also use E3 to showcase PES 2011’s new ‘Drag’n’Drop’ tactical system, wherein players can alter the balance or playing style of their side in seconds. The new system gives compete tactical control over every aspect of a performance, even allowing for preset options to play defensively to guard a lead, or to go all-out to consolidate a narrow lead.

PES 2011 E3 Trailer

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Op woensdag 16 juni 2010 00:09 schreef TiMPiN het volgende:
Dat het spel godverdomme een keer goed mag worden. Ik wil weer terug naar Pes5

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Op woensdag 16 juni 2010 11:05 schreef Tja..1986 het volgende:

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Fifa 2000? Fifa 2000 was juist een van de slechtste. Zelfs op het hoogste niveau won je nog alles met 2 vingers in de neus. '99 en '98 waren goed. 2010 is trouwens ook erg goed.

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Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 is het spel waar fans al jaren op wachten. We riepen jaar in, jaar uit dat de Japanse ontwikkelaars zo koppig zijn en niet naar hun fans luisteren, maar aan die situatie is een einde gekomen. PES 2011 speelt soepel. Het tempo ligt een stuk lager dan in zijn voorganger, maar dat geeft je veel meer controle, net als het 'free passing'-systeem. De animaties zien er bovendien een stuk beter uit dan vorig jaar, terwijl Konami een leuk primeurtje heeft door de Copa Libertadores in het spel op te nemen. FIFA 11 is, zo weten we al een paar weken, een heel goede game, maar het lijkt erop dat EA dit najaar zijn borst nat kan maken: Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 heeft een ijzersterke eerste indruk gemaakt.

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Op donderdag 17 juni 2010 09:52 schreef Pettigrew81 het volgende:

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Nog trager

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Voorlopige conclusie
Hoewel in deze preview de teleurstelling toch wel wat overheerst, is het nog te vroeg om PES 2010 definitief af te schrijven. Als Konami er, met wat simpele aanpassingen, in slaagt om de speelbaarheid van het spel te verbeteren, kan Pro Evo 2010 best nog een meer dan degelijke game worden. Bovendien zijn we benieuwd naar de veranderingen in de Online modus en in de Master League, die we nog niet hebben kunnen uitproberen. Desondanks kunnen we het gevoel niet van ons afschudden dat PES 2010 niet de game is waarmee Konami FIFA 10 naar de kroon kan steken, en het lijkt ons heel sterk dat de Japanse ontwikkelaar en uitgever aan de komende twee maanden genoeg zal hebben daar nog verandering in te kunnen brengen.

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So one match in, and PES 11 feels to me like a huge improvement over the previous two or three iterations. It has a nice loose feel, the player models are sharp, detailed and solid, and there's a real sense that you're very much in control. I was certainly deeply reluctant to hand the controller back when my allotted time with the demo was over. It seems that the many Gamesblog readers who've kept faith with the series – and the ever-competitive Chatterbox PES league is testament to that – might be about to reap the rewards of their loyalty.

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Konami seems to have found the formula for success in developing Pro Evolution Soccer 2011. While it is too early to predict the outcome of the game, it is likely that FIFA has finally found his eternal rival in top form. The gameplay enhancements should not go unnoticed by football lovers as well as the overall track record, well above the 2010 Edition concerning such animations.

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Op dinsdag 13 juli 2010 20:14 schreef Pettigrew81 het volgende:
En hier haakte ik definitief af, dat ziet er wel heel houterig uit.

Veel plezier ermee als die uit is, ik heb wel geleerd van 2010.

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Op zondag 18 juli 2010 16:55 schreef SuperHarregarre het volgende:

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PC en voetbalspellen. Fifa op consoles is al veel langer next-gen.

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Op dinsdag 27 juli 2010 18:46 schreef heloef het volgende:
PES 11 wordt waarschijnlijk net zo kut als de vorige versies wordt dus gewoon weer FIFA kopen dus.

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Op dinsdag 27 juli 2010 18:52 schreef heloef het volgende:

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Ah dat zeiden ze vorig jaar nou ook

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Op dinsdag 27 juli 2010 18:59 schreef heloef het volgende:

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Check post van Saekerhett maar

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Op donderdag 5 augustus 2010 20:21 schreef Roflpantoffel het volgende:

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Oftewel een flink sausje PES fan er over.

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In my 100+ hours of playing the game, the first 5 hours was the most brutal. The learning curve of playing PES 2011 is a steep one, and something that will require great patience. Playing this years game the same as PES 2010, or any before it, will result in complete failure, as PES 2011 is on a different planet.

The two biggest elements of the game that will require re-learning (besides passing) will be dribbling and defending. Check out a brief explanation of both after the jump.


Defending In PES 2011

When Seabass detailed that the defensive nature of PES was getting an overhaul, I should have been much more wary when trying to tackle when playing PES 2011 for the first time. Without question, almost without thinking, you will start playing PES the same way as you always have done. Especially for the guys who have been into the series for so long.

Not since PES3 have I felt a need to change the way I play, and further more not since PES5 have I felt the need to learn to defend. PES 2011 brings in this new 3-way defending system, and the quicker you realise it’s there for a reason, the faster you’ll understand this side of the game. Playing the same as always, you’ll soon find opposing players walking past you despite your best efforts. This had me thinking more than once that the defence system was broken/buggy.

This was amplified when, playing as Milan vs Barca, players like Iniesta and Messi were almost impossible to dispossess. Wave after wave of attacks, I came out of the game lucky to lose just 3-0. Deciding to then play as Barca against Sevilla, I realised this air of invincibility could be felt by all, not just the CPU. After being able to avoid tackles and escape challenges, it hit me. This is real life football.

I sat the controller down, and started to think about it all. How would you, if you were a manager of an average team, play against the likes of Barcelona? Containment. Look back at Inter Milan’s performance at the Camp Nou in this year’s semi-final, and you get what I mean. It’s not a case of tackling the player, but more limiting their influence and ability to get past you.

This is PES 2011.

First off, let’s talk about this new defensive system, and just how it needs to be used to work in the game. First of all we have holding X and pushing the stick back towards your own goal. It’s a key feature against the very skilful and quick players in the game. The ability to avoid challenges with intricate precision is available to every player with decent technique, meaning rushing in will be punished, so this manoeuvre becomes very key when playing. Accompanying this with Square to bring a teammate over works very well.

The second defence manoeuvre is called tracking, and is done by just holding X. Now here’s the big change that takes the most time getting used to: holding X does not tackle! That’s right, all this does now is track the player closely, without committing to a challenge, or even committing to try and intercept a pass or dribbling path.

The final manoeuvre is actually tackling and committing, and that’s done by holding X and pushing the stick towards the opposition player in possession of the ball. This is the key point to fully comprehend and understand. And while all are easy to take in, all 3 take hours of practice to master.

When you think about it, this new system is pure genius, and brings out this core simulation aspect PES has been missing for so long. The complexity isn’t rocket science, but the implementation is done in such a way that so much of real football is represented in the game. No matter how good you are as a gamer, people like Messi and Iniesta will be able to walk past you if you dive in without any thought – as they would in real life. Sure the better defenders are able to combat lesser attackers, individuality will always be king in PES, but players with high technique and dribbling stats will always be able to make room for themselves. It’s up to you to limit that room to less damaging areas of the pitch.

Dribbling In PES 2011

Like to shout it out loud and clear, PES 2011 has 360 degree dribbling in the game. And it’s been implemented exactly the way everyone would expect it to in a PES game. Each intricate movement is key, and is influential into what happens on the pitch.

One of the key reasons I feel Seabass did bring in this new defensive system is down to the new dribbling system and freedom for movement for the highly skilled players. He has always wanted every players strengths and abilities to shine through, and for this a lot of work has gone into dribbling with high technique players.

Iniesta and Messi have a fantastic feeling when in possession of the ball, keeping the ball close and being able to move into any direction in an instant. Even when faced with a number of defenders around you, the ability to manoeuvre in between them is possible, if they all commit to try and tackle you. If they don’t, the ability to move away from danger and find a team mate with a pass is always an option.

This ability at first made the game’s defensive side feel broken, as trying to rush in and muscle the player off the ball (ala FIFA) is impossible to do if they are in full control of the ball. The idea is to back off until an excessive movement is made to beat you, giving you the opportunity to tackle. Again, just like real life.

This new dribbling representation is more about technique, rather than dribbling accuracy, so even the slower classy midfielders can avoid congested areas and pressure by turning quickly away and spraying a pass.

It was fully understanding dribbling that actual made me get defending in the game, respecting a high technique player is key to learning in how to dribbling, and how to defend against them.

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Op woensdag 11 augustus 2010 17:41 schreef Stpan het volgende:
Oh excuus, dan blijf ik ver weg van PES

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Op donderdag 12 augustus 2010 23:16 schreef Kw4Kje het volgende:

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FIFA komt gewoon weer uit op pc hoor en zal dit keer het zelfde zijn als xbox360/ps3....al moeten we dat natuurlijk eerst maar eens zien.

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Op vrijdag 13 augustus 2010 22:39 schreef Doublepain het volgende:
Is MLO niet eigenlijk Ultimate Team maar dan een paar dingen anders..?

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This Beta is to test aspects of Master League online gameplay only. Please be aware
that gameplay is based on unfinished code and aspects such as goal keepers, referees,
animations and online are still being updated.

A more complete PES experience will be demonstrated at Gamescom.

PES 2011 Master League Online PS3 Beta Gameplay Footage

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Op dinsdag 17 augustus 2010 02:42 schreef Doublepain het volgende:
Ronaldo 98 _!
Dat wordt weer leuk online

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Op dinsdag 17 augustus 2010 07:12 schreef amersfoort22 het volgende:
Nou, als ik Insidegamer moet geloven is het niet veel volgend bepaalde mensen…

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Op dinsdag 17 augustus 2010 13:19 schreef Roflpantoffel het volgende:

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Gaat toch niet gebeuren fanboy

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Op dinsdag 17 augustus 2010 15:51 schreef Nick-GizMo het volgende:
http://forums.pesfan.com/showthread.php?t=232473

Hou dat topic maar in de gaten

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Op dinsdag 17 augustus 2010 22:45 schreef Nick-GizMo het volgende:

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had 2010 dat ook niet dan?

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Oh, it's the packaging of 2011. European release dates are Sept 30 for PS3, PC, Xbox 360 and then October for PS2, PSP and Wii.

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Op woensdag 18 augustus 2010 12:34 schreef Roflpantoffel het volgende:

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En maar blijven hopen hé

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Op woensdag 18 augustus 2010 12:50 schreef Roflpantoffel het volgende:

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Nou in PES2011 is het anders nog steeds hetzelfde
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En jij beweert van niet.. aan alle video's kan je het zien.

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Alan_CurdieWENB@JonMurphy_PES Would you say there is another jump in quality from GC code to the complete one Jon? Excellent showing today btw.

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JonMurphy_PES @Alan_CurdieWENB Yes, without question

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@JonMurphy_PES Also,wanted to ask you whether the English Premier Ligue liscenses will or wont be in the game..?As PES 2010 didnt have those

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@Juanma042 EA once again got the exclusive. Did everything we could but ties run too deep. The have a very 'established' relationship.

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Op woensdag 18 augustus 2010 23:52 schreef Doublepain het volgende:
Maar hoe bedoelen ze? Gewoon een nep clubnaam, maar wel echte spelers toch?

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Op donderdag 19 augustus 2010 00:18 schreef Nick-GizMo het volgende:

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Komt wel weer een option file voor de xbox360, en dan heb je van elk team de echte namen en waarschijnlijk ook shirts

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Op donderdag 19 augustus 2010 00:23 schreef Doublepain het volgende:
Lekker voor de Engelsen dat ze hun eigen cluppie niet kunnen kiezen (MLO)

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*Adam, is it true that KONAMI put NEW additional controls for precision dribbling and ball control in newest code, namely if left analog move just a little to anyplace(not to the end), player will technically lead the ball that it is much closer to him, so change of direction is quicker.

This was written by a journalist from here, allegedly he was on gamescon and played almost final version of the game behind closed doors, he says that.

*That is correct. Yeah, Jon said something along those lines before myself and Ben (chaos) started playing. Granted, we didn't have a huge amount of time with the final code but was definitely more noticeable and felt more precise too.

I was playing as Spurs (who are now licensed, of course) and was trying it out with Lennon.....helped me get into a couple of nice shooting positions from long range. Shame the goalkeeper saved them all though! >

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I have been pestering the kind folk at Konami in the hope to play some sort of build of the game, when I arrived this morning I was informed by Steve it was final build!

Now if you want to know anything you don’t already about the menu’s then feel free to ask but I didn’t spend much time with them, instead choosing to goto an exhibition match, picking my beloved (but at this time beloathed) Merseyside Blue against Fat Sam’s team Lancashire.

First thing was the camera panning back and you will be pleased to know I wasn’t having any of the tracking issues I found during fast exchanges, the reason, it was on Wide cam, fear not, it is there!

Another thing that struck me immediately was the true 360 movement, it may have just been me not used to the PS3 pad for this game fully as I spend most of my gaming time with the Xbox pad, it was very difficult to stay in a straight line, I pointed this out straight away to Steve.

Secondly after passing the ball about there does not seem to be that remote control ball to foot curl I noticed at times in the beta, an almost artificial assistance that ensured short passes would find their man, short passes appear just like old with the added control of the power and angle should you wish to play the ball in space, passing seems less powered than the beta, you can easily underhit the pass and also what some considered to be an exploit which was to free the striker with one full powered pass down the centre never happened once, you can hit him but it was far less powerful on full power and the defenders were positioned correctly anyway.

The worrying issue was I won my first game very easily, breezing past players, AI standing off and could easily shoot from outside the box, I even scored a soft goal from outside the box with Cahill as my first goal, but I wasn’t impressed, the good thing though was that the difficulty was on Regular, so changed that right away, was going to show off and go straight to Top Player but decided against it as Professional (4 stars of old) always eased me in without letting me exploit it, the change was immediate the following game as long shots were charged down easily when I was not making space and they have a new urgency when attacking your goal, but I was still doing well enough to scrape by one goal advantages.

Decided to start a new Master League with Merseyside Blue, had a look at the default tactics, said I was a “Long Ball” team, I agreed and set to play with the default formation, was held to a scrappy 0-0 draw by Middlebrook, second game was away to Man United, took the lead with a Saha header from a corner and held my own, but they always score and they did again, then in the final minute Cahill headed in a cross from close range to get me the win, I know it sounds a little far fetched but bear in mind my new found optimism that I was awesome was chopped down when I failed to win any of the 3 following games, ah just like old times!

Now let me talk a little of what I think is the best part of the game, the animations, I could not see one recycled movement from 2010, every replay up close helps you understand as well, the sense of weight to the players and the way every touch is context sensitive, whether reaching because they know the defender may get there first, ensuring the ball does not go out of play (which was a massive problem in the beta), even the shooting which I criticized earlier in the beta is so realistic in the way they will run onto a loose ball to hit with venom or planting a foot to gain more accuracy in a tight space, I cannot think of any time when I thought a real life player could have taken that differently, the replays just highlight how smooth this all moves, I was looking for faults but could not see any, it just moved so smooth, the unneccessary backheel when a simple side foot pass would have been more effective was toned down as well.

An issue that was in the beta was when a player was tackled he was stunned and could not move out of the stumbling animation, this has been totally fixed and I confirmed it in the replay where my player was tackled from behind but regained his composure before the ball ran out of to play to cross for a headed goal by Cahill, to add to this players are more aware too when the ball is close to going out of play and will make more of an effort to do keep in play.

Goalkeepers are terrific now, commanding their area and not allowing soft near post goals, I only scored one long range goal and one moment when I thought the goalie was at error I checked the replay and he was wrong footed and could not adjust in time, just like real life, and they also come off their line when the situation demands it, due to the feedback from the beta I wonder if they may have been made too good, but time will tell.

I was critical of the new defending system but more time with this and I found it useful, gave away quite a few fouls by sticking a leg in too early but did manage to block and intercept a few times, it will be something to master over four weeks not four hours though.

Trick wise I did not have the rainbow flick in my preset tricks so honestly could not try this to see if it has been remedied in time, hopefully if it has not then it will be something that can be patched up in time for release, the demo next week you will be able to see this anyway so I am not holding any information back about this.

There are two actual types of tricks too, one set where you are running with the ball and another where you have the ball standing still, the running kind is quite effective if timed correctly, using Cahill I was able to flick the ball with my trailing leg into space to move past two defenders, with the tricks being simple to pull off time will tell if it is too effective, I must say though you can’t just hold L2 and lightly flick the right stick, it needs to be pushed in that direction quite purposefully to register, me being old fashioned does miss the double tap bumper to do feints, square and x pressed in conjunction still does the shot feint but is it used in conjunction with the stick and is less exaggerated too but still does the job when timed right.

One thing I should also point out I never actually messed with any tactics apart from changing formations for a game when I was going through a slump but when I was 1-0 down in a match in the last 10 minutes of the match and my team made a very visible move up the pitch to squeeze the play and push for the equalizer, this was done on its own so I am not sure if it assigned to that team tactically by default or this genuinely happens no matter what but I thought it was an excellent touch and really increased the urgency.

Sound wise the commentary was in there and it is pretty much the same as it has always been but Jim Beglin was more understated than Mark Lawresnson, it was hard to grasp the sound as I was playing this in Steve’s office where he was busy on the phone but one moment which made me laugh out loud was when I had Leighton Baines out wide ready to cross the ball and Jon Champion shouted “ITS HIM!” like he was pointing out a murder suspect to the police!

For my last two games before leaving I tried the Copa Libertadores mode, whereas the main menu’s in the normal game modes are dark backgrounds with pictures of Messi and your team in ML mode the Copa Libertadores is bright and warm, a white background with an orange/red swirl through the middle of the screen and of course some south american music to accompany this.

I had to try my idol’s team from PES’ past Roberto Carlos and Corinthians and you are greeted with a nice cut scene before going into the draw.

Before kick off the change in atmosphere is apparent, it is bright with confetti streaming down, flares in the stands, different advertisement boards and the crows chanting natively.

Once you kick off I felt as if I was in a carnival so proceeded to play it that way using tricks, one-two passing and generally just treating it like an exhibition, my loving moment came however when I was awarded a free kick, I said to Steve I hope it defaults to Carlos…and it did, standing in his own familiar pose took his massive run up and I hit in the corner but the keeper managed to palm it away, whether it was the lower stats of the players it just felt a joy to play and a nice light hearted alternative to the scrap of the Master League where I went 5 games without a win!

I never tried online because there wouldn’t have been anyone to play against so I never ventured onto any menu’s on that side, I did look at the PES shop and looked at some serious and also rather amusing additions to the stadiums from Konami days of old.

There was a couple of small niggles I pointed out, which happened twice was when crossing the ball the cursor selected my man at the back post, but the man that was AI controlled at the front post headed the ball on its own accord, also another slight niggle which happened twice in 17 or so games was an underpowered slightly floaty shot which felt as if the keeper would have had more than enough time to reach actually travelled in the goal, these were not in any way game breaking but I thought I should mention amid all the positivity as you may be thinking I have taken a bung!

Summary

To be honest I wasn’t as excited going into the playtest as I could have been, partly due to the MLO beta which I thought provided me with a sufficient overview of what this years game was about and I could have easily waited for the demo which I knew wouldn’t be far away.

What did literally shock me though was how far advanced the final code was compared to the beta, I did not expect them to have the time to achieve what they did, fixing literally every issue I had, I was even happy with the responsiveness of the player dribbling once I mastered this in the beta so I thought that was the way it was going to be but they totally improved that too, now if you press to turn you don’t need to plan it one step ahead, it is instant.

I can honestly say if PES was the game you loved four years ago and walked away (understandably) then this is the game to bring you back, it will demand your patience as always, you will know the amount of dedication to be become good at the game.

The acid test will be in two months time on the forums, are we all still enjoying it, is it too easy once mastered, is there any obvious exploits etc.

If you left the game after losing faith in the series this is the one to bring you back in, give it a chance.

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Summary

To be honest I wasn’t as excited going into the playtest as I could have been, partly due to the MLO beta which I thought provided me with a sufficient overview of what this years game was about and I could have easily waited for the demo which I knew wouldn’t be far away.

What did literally shock me though was how far advanced the final code was compared to the beta, I did not expect them to have the time to achieve what they did, fixing literally every issue I had, I was even happy with the responsiveness of the player dribbling once I mastered this in the beta so I thought that was the way it was going to be but they totally improved that too, now if you press to turn you don’t need to plan it one step ahead, it is instant.

I can honestly say if PES was the game you loved four years ago and walked away (understandably) then this is the game to bring you back, it will demand your patience as always, you will know the amount of dedication to be become good at the game.

The acid test will be in two months time on the forums, are we all still enjoying it, is it too easy once mastered, is there any obvious exploits etc.

If you left the game after losing faith in the series this is the one to bring you back in, give it a chance.