[F1] Nieuwtjes topic deel 51; met een 4 cilinder motor :')

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Op dinsdag 28 juli 2009 10:12 schreef Atreidez het volgende:
Al getest in 2001, de nieuwe toekomst in F1 ?
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http://f1.gpupdate.net/en(...)e-driver-protection/

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BOEDAPEST - Felipe Massa maakt volgens zijn artsen grote vorderingen bij zijn herstel.

Medicus Dino Altmann denkt zelfs dat de 28-jarige Braziliaanse autocoureur, die zaterdag tijdens de kwalificatie voor de Grote Prijs van Hongarije zwaar crashte, mogelijk al over tien dagen weer naar huis kan.

Massa, die maandag ontwaakte uit een kunstmatige coma, verlaat als alles meezit over twee dagen de intensivecare-afdeling. Dat heeft zijn vader gezegd.

Linkeroog

Wel heeft Massa problemen met zijn linkeroog, dat hij nog altijd niet kan openen.

Het is volgens artsen te vroeg om te zeggen of Massa blijvende schade aan zijn oog heeft opgelopen. ''We kunnen daarop nog geen positief en geen negatief antwoord geven'', zo klinkt het.

Massa weet zich volgens Gazzetta delle Sport niets van het ongeluk te herinneren. ''Wat is er gebeurd, wat doe ik hier'', zou de coureur volgens de Italiaanse krant aan de dienstdoende arts hebben gevraagd toen hij ontwaakte.

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Op dinsdag 28 juli 2009 13:18 schreef Giem het volgende:
Lees ook bij de telegraaf dat ze misschien Schumager in de auto willen zetten, lijkt me wel leuk om het verschil tussen kimi en schumager te zien.

Echter verwacht ik gewoon een van de twee testrijders, waarschijnlijk Gene.

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'Massa mag ziekenhuis volgende week verlaten'

Het herstel van Ferrari-coureur Felipe Massa blijft zeer voorspoedig verlopen. De doktoren hebben dinsdag laten weten dat de Braziliaan mogelijk volgende week al het ziekenhuis in de Hongaarse hoofdstad Boedapest kan verlaten.

"Onze verwachting is dat Felipe straks op eigen kracht het ziekenhuis uit kan wandelen", zo heeft Peter Baszo, de medisch directeur van het AEK-ziekenhuis, laten weten op de Hongaarse televisie. "Als zijn herstel in dit tempo door blijft gaan, dan sluit ik niet uit dat hij binnen tien dagen het ziekenhuis kan verlaten. Hij is steeds meer wakker en praat met familie en vrienden."

Massa werd tijdens de kwalificatie voor de Grand Prix van Hongarije op zijn helm geraakt door een veer die van de auto van Rubens Barrichello was losgekomen. De Braziliaan, die vervolgens rechtdoor de bandenstapels inschoot, liep bij dit incident een schedelbreuk, een hersenschudding en een snee in zijn voorhoofd op. Baszo waarschuwt dat de toestand ondanks het voorspoedige herstel nog wel zorgwekkend blijft: "Het verhaal is hiermee nog niet afgelopen. Massa verkeert nog steeds in een levensbedreigende situatie. Natuurlijk neemt het gevaar elke dag wel af."

Het linkeroog van Felipe Massa is ook beschadigd geraakt bij het incident. Het is nog onduidelijk hoe groot die schade is en of die schade blijvend is. Vandaag (dinsdag) zal Ferrari-teambaas Stefano Domenicali Massa bezoeken.

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Op dinsdag 28 juli 2009 12:51 schreef LeXX het volgende:
Ik lees net op Telegraf.nl dat massa zeker niet meer in actie komt dit seizoen. Mogelijk einde loopbaan.
Is op andere bronnen al bevestigd dat zijn arts dat inderdaad heeft gezegd?

Btw, zijn de conspiracy-aanhangers al met het idee gekomen dat de FIA Renault heeft geschorst om Alonso de kans te geven om voor Massa in te vallen?

_{Edit: Net op Newsnow zie ik de eerste berichten al}

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Op dinsdag 28 juli 2009 13:34 schreef leroytje het volgende:

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Gene heeft toch ook al 4 jaar geen wedstrijd meer gereden of zo?
En Badoer al 10 jaar niet meer volgens mij... Beter iemand die pas nog een race gereden heeft.
mijn voorkeur: Schumacher

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Op dinsdag 28 juli 2009 15:05 schreef Swindler het volgende:
http://www.dumpert.nl/med(...)helmcrash_in_3d.html

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Op dinsdag 28 juli 2009 15:26 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Heel grappig maar zo is het dus niet gebeurd. Dit is een kwestie van wie er het eerste met 3DMax een filmpje in elkaar schroeft waar de media dan van kan snoepen.

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Schumacher may consider F1 return

By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, July 28th 2009, 12:07 GMT

Michael Schumacher would consider becoming a temporary replacement for the injured Ferrari driver Felipe Massa, his spokeswoman has revealed.

With Massa almost certain to miss a number of races as he recovers from the injuries he suffered in his Hungarian Grand Prix accident, Schumacher's name has emerged as a potential candidate.

The seven-time world champion remains an advisor for the team and, since quitting F1, has confined his racing activities to motorbikes.

And although Schumacher has stated many times that he has no interest in making a comeback, his spokeswoman Sabine Kehm said on Tuesday that he would not automatically reject the idea of stepping into Massa's car if Ferrari asked him.

"The whole thing will be considered by Ferrari. If they approach Michael, then he will consider it," Kehm told the BBC. "But there is no reason for him to step into their discussion.

"Usually, I would say he's not interested because he's fine with his life and he doesn't miss anything but now the situation is so different - it's very hypothetical - and Michael doesn't want to step into that [discussion]."

Schumacher has kept fit since he turned his back on F1 at the end of 2006, but is probably nowhere near the fitness levels he had when racing - especially following a sizeable motorbike crash earlier this year.

"Michael had a motorcycle accident in February when he had a neck problem - and I really can't tell you if his neck would be fine to drive an F1 race," Kehm added.

"If Ferrari asked him whether he would consider driving, he would have it checked - and remember he is a 40-year-old man, too."

Schumacher last tested a Formula 1 car in April 2008, when he tested an F2008 at Barcelona.
autosport.com

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Doctor says Massa's eyesight is okay
^{Jul.28 (GMM)} Felipe Massa's personal doctor Dino Altman has countered reports the injured Ferrari driver's left eye was damaged in his crash during Hungarian GP qualifying.

The 28-year-old Brazilian is now out of coma and expected to walk out of hospital sometime next week with no long-term effects from his serious head injuries.

But the damage done to his left eye remains largely unknown, amid reports the optic nerve was damaged when his helmet and visor was struck by a 800 gram steel damper spring at 275kmh last Saturday afternoon.

An official of the AEK hospital on Tuesday is quoted by Italy's ANSA news agency as saying checks on the injured eye will only be able to be conducted "in a week to ten days, not before".

But Massa's personal doctor, also attending to Massa at the AEK military hospital in central Budapest, insists: "His left eye has no problem, his eyesight is okay."

Massa's father Luiz Antonio said: "Felipe is better and better, I would not say from day to day but rather from hour to hour."

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Schu could return at Spa, Monza - manager
Racing series F1
Date 2009-07-28
By Motorsport.com/GMM

News about a possible comeback for Michael Schumacher is speeding as quickly as Ferrari's Formula One car down a long Monza straight.

Having said already on Tuesday that the prospect of seeing the seven time world champion in injured Felipe Massa's car at Valencia next month can be ruled out definitively, Schumacher's manager Willi Weber has admitted a return later in 2009 remains a possibility.

"I have excluded a comeback in Valencia. With regards to Spa and Monza, I would not like to express myself," Weber is quoted as saying by Auto Bild Motorsport.

It is also reported that 40-year-old German's reported neck injuries, sustained in a motorcycle testing crash earlier this year, would not be an obstacle to a Schumacher return.

It is believed Schumacher was considering contesting the IDM (German superbike) race in Holland late in August.

As for the longer-term future of the F60 raced until Hungary by Brazilian 28-year-old Massa, team boss Stefano Domenicali on Tuesday left no doubt when he said "that's his (Felipe's) car."

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With regards to Spa and Monza, I would not like to express myself," Weber is quoted as saying by Auto Bild Motorsport.

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Op dinsdag 28 juli 2009 18:48 schreef vosss het volgende:

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Lijkt mij erop duiden dat ze wel zeker al aan het praten zijn erover. Schumi en Ferrari.

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Schumacher won't return to Formula One, manager says

Retired seven-time Formula One world champion Michael Schumacher will not substitute for injured driver Felipe Massa, despite Schumacher's spokeswoman telling the BBC on Tuesday that he would consider a return if Ferrari asked him to. Schumacher has not driven an F1 car since April 2008, though he remains a consultant to the team.

"The whole thing will be considered by Ferrari. If they approach Michael, then he will consider it," Sabine Kehm said. "But there is no reason for him to step into their discussion.

"Usually, I would say he's not interested because he's fine with his life, and he doesn't miss anything but now the situation is so different--it's very hypothetical--and Michael doesn't want to step into that [discussion]."

Kehm also reminded that Schumacher suffered slight injuries in a motorcycle racing crash during the winter, perhaps calling his fitness into question.

"Michael had a motorcycle accident in February when he had a neck problem--and I really can't tell you if his neck would be fine to drive an F1 race," she said.

"If Ferrari asked him whether he would consider driving, he would have it checked--and remember he is a 40-year-old man, too."

However, all such considerations are moot, according to Schumacher's manager Willi Weber.

"Whoever sits in the car at the next race in Valencia, it will not be Michael Schumacher. I am not 100 per cent sure; I am 200 per cent sure," he told The Daily Mail after reportedly meeting with Schumacher at the former champion's home in Geneva.

"The pressure on him would be huge. He would be expected to win, but he has not driven this car. When Michael was racing he would get as close to perfection as possible. In this case, it would not be perfection; it would be a gamble--and that's not Michael's style."

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Op dinsdag 28 juli 2009 19:03 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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I spoke to Dudu Massa in the morning.Felipe is doing really well.He speaks and recognizes people...very good news

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How hard was Massa hit?
^{28 July 2009 by Keith Collantine}

The spring hit Massa's helmet with a force that can only de described as terrifying

The stories of Massa’s accident three days have been everywhere. But how much do we really understand about how hard a blow Massa suffered when he was struck by that spring?

F1 Fanatic guest writer Kareem Shaya tries to put the crash into perspective.

In all the discussion of Felipe Massa’s qualifying accident at the Hungarian Grand Prix, there have been few real efforts to quantify what happened. Massa was hit hard enough to be knocked out and suffer a fractured skull, and that’s essentially all we know. So let’s figure it out. How bad is it, exactly, if an 800-gram coil spring hits you in the head at 160 mph?

The punch it packs is worse than being shot. Bullets are deadly because they penetrate the body, but in terms of kinetic energy, most don’t hold a candle to what hit Massa.

Below is a list of kinetic energies of common projectiles. The bullet energies assume point-blank range (and are calculated using numbers from Alpine Armoring). All the energies are calculated using the old kinetic energy = 1/2 * mass * velocity^2 formula you learned in school.

- 100 mph fastball from Nolan Ryan: 145 joules
- Barry Bonds’ swing (33 oz. bat at 70 mph): 458 joules
- 9mm handgun: 513 joules
- .44 Magnum handgun: 1,510 joules
- The spring that hit Massa (800 grams at 160 mph): 2,046 joules
- AK-47 (7.62mm round): 2,599 joules
- 12 gauge shotgun slug: 3,580 joules
- The wheel that killed Henry Surtees (an estimated 12 kg at 120 mph): 17,267 joules

Before we talk about those figures, it’s worth remembering that the Massa and Surtees accidents were real-world situations, and as such, the numbers above may be imprecise. Massa was moving at 160 mph, but if the spring was traveling at high speed in the same direction as his Ferrari, or if it ricocheted off of his car before striking him, the estimate of 2,046 joules will be too high. If, for instance, we change the spring’s collision speed to 120 mph, its kinetic energy drops about 44% to a still-frightening 1,151 joules. The same caveats apply to the figures on Henry Surtees’ accident. Please suggest any adjustments in the comments.

With that in mind, let’s consider the baseball examples. Bullets focus their energy on a tiny area, which is why they would penetrate something like a driver’s helmet. The contact patch of a baseball or a bat, by contrast, would be close to that of a coil spring, and that makes for some shocking comparisons.

By the numbers above, Massa would have been 14 times better off being hit by Nolan Ryan fastball. He would have been four times better off letting Barry Bonds take a full-force swing at his head. For that matter, in terms of sheer energy, he’d have been better off letting Barry Bonds hit him in the head at the same instant that someone shot him point-blank with Dirty Harry’s gun.

It’s simply incredible that a helmet can turn that into a survivable injury, but the massive energy of Henry Surtees’ accident — nearly five times that of a 12 gauge shotgun slug and more than eight times worse than the blow to Massa’s head — reminds us that there’s a limit to the protection that one or two inches of padding can provide. Being hit in the head with a wheel moving at race speeds is easily deadly, helmet or no helmet.

If the same thing causes a death in F1’s future, the result may well be a rush to implement closed cockpits. And if that day should come, let’s not pretend to have learned something we didn’t already know today. Cockpit covers may or may not make sense, but if we are against them now, we shouldn’t be waiting for a death to change our minds.

Update from Keith: We have had further good news about Massa’s condition today, including a quote from one doctor who confirmed the driver has now opened his left eye and can see. The doctor described it as “morphologically healthy”, indicating the eye is healthy and has integrity, with no tissue damage. This raises hopes that he may be able to return to the cockpit in the future.

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Op dinsdag 28 juli 2009 19:41 schreef Trystar het volgende:

I spoke to Dudu Massa in the morning.Felipe is doing really well.He speaks and recognizes people...very good news
Barrichello twitter

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Op dinsdag 28 juli 2009 21:07 schreef Xaobotnik het volgende:

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Noemt ie Massa gewoon een drol/stuk stront terwijl hij zwaar gewond in het ziekenhuis ligt. Ik ben AL het respect dat ik OOIT voor Barichello had, KWIJT!!!