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  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 19:08:00 #1
182666 Harajuku.
C'est magnifique.
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Laatste nieuws
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Debbie Rowe is poised to take full custody of the two children she bore for Michael Jackson.

It has been widely reported Debbie Rowe gave up her parental rights to Paris and Michael Jr. That is not true.

During the custody fight that Rowe had with Jackson in 2005, she attempted to give up her parental rights, saying Michael was the greatest father ever. Retired Judge Stephen Lachs, who presided over the hearing, initially ruled her rights were terminated ... but then Lachs reversed his decision.

Here's what happened. We spoke with Lance Spiegel, the lawyer who repped Jackson at the time. Spiegel says under the law, the Department of Children and Family Services must conduct a parental fitness investigation before parental rights are terminated and that didn't happen with Rowe.

So Rowe has never given up any of her parental rights. As a result, under California law, Rowe is now presumed to be the person who will get custody. The only way Rowe can be denied custody is if a court determines it would be "detrimental to the children."

As for whether Rowe will ask for custody .... our sources say you can bet on it. We're told if Rowe gets custody she will get "a huge amount of child support from Jackson's estate."


[ Bericht 4% gewijzigd door Harajuku. op 26-06-2009 19:13:12 ]
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 19:10:01 #3
79166 Qwea
#teampindakaas #viesdik
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Ah, hier waren we
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  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 19:10:15 #4
78654 Viking84
Going, going, gone
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Nu baal ik dat ik m'n MJ-collectersitems jaren geleden al de deur uit heb gedaan . Had nu nog wat kunnen opleveren .

Ik moet zeggen dat ik toch wel aangeslagen ben, nu het doordringt dat 'ie echt dood is. Zonet even wat nrtjes van hem gedraaid (Wanna be startin' something, Stranger in Moscow en Smooth Criminal) en een beetje over hem gepraat met m'n huisgenoot. Ik ben tot m'n 14e, maar vooral in m'n basisschooltijd, een groot fan van hem geweest, dus zijn verscheiden laat toch wel een diepe indruk achter als ik er even bij stilsta...
Niet meer actief op Fok!
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 19:10:49 #5
78654 Viking84
Going, going, gone
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O en als Rowe niet wil dat die kids haar 'mum' noemen, dan hoop ik dat zij de voogdij iig níet krijgt. Wat die kinderen nodig hebben is een normale jeugd.
Niet meer actief op Fok!
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"Celebrity paedophile dies"

Ai.
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 19:12:20 #7
79166 Qwea
#teampindakaas #viesdik
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LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Police are looking for Michael Jackson's personal physician but have been unable to contact him, they said Friday.

The doctor's car was towed from Jackson's home Thursday and impounded, authorities said.

The car may contain "medications pertinent to the investigation" into Jackson's death, said detective Agustin Villanueva of the Los Angeles Police Department.

Police did not release the doctors name.

Authorities said Friday the cause of Michael Jackson's death will not be determined officially for weeks.

The superstar's sudden death Thursday at age 50 left a family devastated, an industry stunned and legions of fans lost. It also left a glaring question: What happened?

"The likelihood is very slim that we will have any results to release today because of the extensive level of the tests that we're going to be performing," said Ed Winter, assistant chief of the Los Angeles coroners office.

The results of toxicology tests are expected in six to eight weeks, he said, adding that the cause of death will be determined when all results come in.

Initial autopsy results could show whether Jackson had an underlying heart condition, medical experts say. Video Watch coroner's office discuss Jackson's death. »

There are questions over whether Jackson's death may have involved medication.

Brian Oxman, a former attorney for the Jackson family who was with the family in the hospital emergency room on Thursday, told CNN he had been concerned about medications the pop star was taking.

"I talked to this family about it, I warned them. I said that Michael is overmedicating and that I did not want to see this kind of a case develop," Oxman told CNN's "American Morning" on Friday.

He referred to Anna Nicole Smith, the former model and reality TV show star who died of an overdose in 2007.

"I said, 'If that's what's going to happen to Michael, it's all going to break our hearts.' And my worst fears are here." Video Watch CNN's Sanjay Gupta discuss Jackson's death »

Oxman emphasized that he does not know what killed Jackson, and was not making accusations against any individual.

CNN is seeking response from the family.

Jackson was in apparent cardiac arrest when paramedics rushed him Thursday from his home to Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center, where a team of physicians tried to resuscitate him for more than an hour, according to Jackson's brother Jermaine. He said the music idol was pronounced dead at 2:26 p.m. Video Watch crowds gather at the hospital. »

The night before he had complained of not feeling well, brother Marlon Jackson said.

He told CNN on Thursday about his conversation with Jackson's manager Frank Dileo. On Wednesday night, Jackson said he was not feeling well, so his doctor went to see him. "Frank said, 'Marlon, from last night to this morning, I don't know what happened.' When they got to him this morning, he wasn't breathing."

The troubled icon had been preparing for a comeback tour, aimed at extending his legendary career and helping to pay off hundreds of millions of dollars in debt.

Michael Jackson began his professional work at age 5, singing with his brothers before shooting to superstardom as a solo artist. He had numerous No. 1 hits, the best known being "Thriller."

"Thriller" was the best-selling album of all time, at an estimated 50 million copies worldwide.

After dominating the popular music scene for years, Jackson became reclusive and mired in scandals that included child molestation charges. He was acquitted after a highly publicized trial in Santa Maria, California, in March 2006.

Last year, Jackson announced a comeback tour that was to start in July. When some of the shows were postponed till next year, rumors spread that the entertainer was weak and suffering from skin cancer.

But Marlon Jackson said he last saw his younger brother at a May 14 family gathering and he "looked great."

"He was looking well. He was getting ready to go into rehearsals for his tour. I don't know what happened," Marlon Jackson said.

The most famous of Michael Jackson's eight siblings, Janet, issued a statement through her manager.

"Janet Jackson is grief-stricken and devastated at the sudden loss of her brother," said Kenneth Crear. "She is ... flying immediately to California to be with her family."

A large crowd gathered outside the hospital, while in New York a huge crowd gathered outside the Apollo Theater.

Around the world, fans reacted with sadness. iReport.com: Share your Michael Jackson memories

Some, including actress Elizabeth Taylor and musician Stevie Wonder, were too distraught to issue statements.

Producer Quincy Jones, who helped Jackson craft his hit albums "Off the Wall" and "Thriller," said, "I am absolutely devastated at this tragic and unexpected news.

"For Michael to be taken away from us so suddenly at such a young age, I just don't have the words," Jones added in a statement.

Jackson's music continues to be heard throughout the world "because he had it all -- talent, grace, professionalism and dedication," Jones said. He called Jackson a consummate entertainer, whose legacy will be felt around the world.

"I've lost my little brother today and part of my soul has gone with him," Jones said.

Berry Gordy, producer and founder of Motown Records, said Jackson's death was "like a bad dream."

"As a kid, Michael was always beyond his years. He was an innovator. He was a genius at what he did," Gordy said. "He had a knowingness about him. At 9 years old, when I first started working with him, he seemed to me like he had been here before. He was just so knowledgeable about life."

Jackson's former wife, Lisa Marie Presley, said she was "shocked and saddened" by his death.

"My heart goes out to his children and his family," she said.

Jackson is survived by his three children, Prince Michael I, Paris and Prince Michael II.
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Jammer jammer. Dat hij dood is, dat het zo met hem afgelopen is, dat al die schijnheilige nu op TV te zien..
All those moments will be lost, like tears in rain... Time to die.
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 19:14:29 #9
182666 Harajuku.
C'est magnifique.
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 19:10 schreef Viking84 het volgende:
Nu baal ik dat ik m'n MJ-collectersitems jaren geleden al de deur uit heb gedaan . Had nu nog wat kunnen opleveren .

Ik moet zeggen dat ik toch wel aangeslagen ben, nu het doordringt dat 'ie echt dood is. Zonet even wat nrtjes van hem gedraaid (Wanna be startin' something, Stranger in Moscow en Smooth Criminal) en een beetje over hem gepraat met m'n huisgenoot. Ik ben tot m'n 14e, maar vooral in m'n basisschooltijd, een groot fan van hem geweest, dus zijn verscheiden laat toch wel een diepe indruk achter als ik er even bij stilsta...
Ja, ik was er ook redelijk normaal onder, maar vanmiddag leek het toch ineens iets meer door te dringen, hmm.
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 19:14:51 #10
67379 Mirjam
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 19:09 schreef Disorder het volgende:
[ afbeelding ]
'Met een banaan door het water, later'
Franky boy | fanmail, hatemail, lovemail, sexmail | Tom
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Weet niet of het ergens al gepost is, maar dit is de reactie van Deepak Chopra, de bekende filosoof en goeie vriend van MJ:
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Michael Jackson will be remembered, most likely, as a shattered icon, a pop genius who wound up a mutant of fame. That's not who I will remember, however. His mixture of mystery, isolation, indulgence, overwhelming global fame, and personal loneliness was intimately known to me. For twenty years I observed every aspect, and as easy as it was to love Michael -- and to want to protect him -- his sudden death yesterday seemed almost fated.

Two days previously he had called me in an upbeat, excited mood. The voice message said, "I've got some really good news to share with you." He was writing a song about the environment, and he wanted me to help informally with the lyrics, as we had done several times before. When I tried to return his call, however, the number was disconnected. (Terminally spooked by his treatment in the press, he changed his phone number often.) So I never got to talk to him, and the music demo he sent me lies on my bedside table as a poignant symbol of an unfinished life.

When we first met, around 1988, I was struck by the combination of charisma and woundedness that surrounded Michael. He would be swarmed by crowds at an airport, perform an exhausting show for three hours, and then sit backstage afterward, as we did one night in Bucharest, drinking bottled water, glancing over some Sufi poetry as I walked into the room, and wanting to meditate.

That person, whom I considered (at the risk of ridicule) very pure, still survived -- he was reading the poems of Rabindranath Tagore when we talked the last time, two weeks ago. Michael exemplified the paradox of many famous performers, being essentially shy, an introvert who would come to my house and spend most of the evening sitting by himself in a corner with his small children. I never saw less than a loving father when they were together (and wonder now, as anyone close to him would, what will happen to them in the aftermath).

Michael's reluctance to grow up was another part of the paradox. My children adored him, and in return he responded in a childlike way. He declared often, as former child stars do, that he was robbed of his childhood. Considering the monstrously exaggerated value our society places on celebrity, which was showered on Michael without stint, the public was callous to his very real personal pain. It became another tawdry piece of the tabloid Jacko, pictured as a weird changeling and as something far more sinister.

It's not my place to comment on the troubles Michael fell heir to from the past and then amplified by his misguided choices in life. He was surrounded by enablers, including a shameful plethora of M.D.s in Los Angeles and elsewhere who supplied him with prescription drugs. As many times as he would candidly confess that he had a problem, the conversation always ended with a deflection and denial. As I write this paragraph, the reports of drug abuse are spreading across the cable news channels. The instant I heard of his death this afternoon, I had a sinking feeling that prescription drugs would play a key part.

The closest we ever became, perhaps, was when Michael needed a book to sell primarily as a concert souvenir. It would contain pictures for his fans but there would also be a text consisting of short fables. I sat with him for hours while he dreamily wove Aesop-like tales about animals, mixed with words about music and his love of all things musical. This project became "Dancing the Dream" after I pulled the text together for him, acting strictly as a friend. It was this time together that convinced me of the modus vivendi Michael had devised for himself: to counter the tidal wave of stress that accompanies mega-stardom, he built a private retreat in a fantasy world where pink clouds veiled inner anguish and Peter Pan was a hero, not a pathology.

This compromise with reality gradually became unsustainable. He went to strange lengths to preserve it. Unbounded privilege became another toxic force in his undoing. What began as idiosyncrasy, shyness, and vulnerability was ravaged by obsessions over health, paranoia over security, and an isolation that grew more and more unhealthy. When Michael passed me the music for that last song, the one sitting by my bedside waiting for the right words, the procedure for getting the CD to me rivaled a CIA covert operation in its secrecy.

My memory of Michael Jackson will be as complex and confused as anyone's. His closest friends will close ranks and try to do everything in their power to insure that the good lives after him. Will we be successful in rescuing him after so many years of media distortion? No one can say. I only wanted to put some details on the record in his behalf. My son Gotham traveled with Michael as a roadie on his "Dangerous" tour when he was thirteen. Will it matter that Michael behaved with discipline and impeccable manners around my son? (It sends a shiver to recall something he told Gotham: "I don't want to go out like Marlon Brando. I want to go out like Elvis." Both icons were obsessions of this icon.)

His children's nanny and surrogate mother, Grace Rwamba, is like another daughter to me. I introduced her to Michael when she was eighteen, a beautiful, heartwarming girl from Rwanda who is now grown up. She kept an eye on him for me and would call me whenever he was down or running too close to the edge. How heartbreaking for Grace that no one's protective instincts and genuine love could avert this tragic day. An hour ago she was sobbing on the telephone from London. As a result, I couldn't help but write this brief remembrance in sadness. But when the shock subsides and a thousand public voices recount Michael's brilliant, joyous, embattled, enigmatic, bizarre trajectory, I hope the word "joyous" is the one that will rise from the ashes and shine as he once did
Mooi en openhartig geschreven. .
I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 19:28:56 #12
182666 Harajuku.
C'est magnifique.
  Eurovisie Songfestival Queen vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 19:36:25 #13
163650 Greys
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 19:28 schreef Harajuku. het volgende:
En deze nog een keer

Would you like to be burried in one of these?
No.
Why not?
I don't want to be burried. I want to live forever.
IT'S GREYSIE IT'S PARTY
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 19:37:34 #14
182666 Harajuku.
C'est magnifique.
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 19:36 schreef Greys het volgende:

[..]

Would you like to be burried in one of these?
No.
Why not?
I don't want to be burried. I want to live forever.
Doet ie in a way ook
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 19:10 schreef Viking84 het volgende:
Ik moet zeggen dat ik toch wel aangeslagen ben, nu het doordringt dat 'ie echt dood is. Zonet even wat nrtjes van hem gedraaid (Wanna be startin' something, Stranger in Moscow en Smooth Criminal) en een beetje over hem gepraat met m'n huisgenoot. Ik ben tot m'n 14e, maar vooral in m'n basisschooltijd, een groot fan van hem geweest, dus zijn verscheiden laat toch wel een diepe indruk achter als ik er even bij stilsta...
Vooral vrouwen hebben daar last van lijkt het.
Bv vrouwen die verliefd zijn en/of flauw vallen / hun idool (tijdens een concert). Opzich wel een apart iets? Mij doet het persoonlijk niets, en word altijd gek van die media gekte, die hem dus ook gek (althans voor een groot gedeelte) heeft gemaakt? Ok jij niet zo erg als dat, maar toch..

Vind het zelf een soort van ''schapengedrag'', ook bv laatst met die aanslag ten tijde van koninginnedag, alsof we een soort van media junkies zijn?

[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Billary op 26-06-2009 19:52:42 ]
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Ik ben wel heel blij voor hem dat hij voor zijn dood tot artist of the millenium is uitgeroepen!
I'll be walking home after drinking all my pennies. I'll keep passing the open windows. I'll dance, even if I have nowhere to do it but in my own living room.
~ How do I feel this good, sober?
~ For the night is dark and full of terrors
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 19:45:41 #17
12734 amaranta
Alles Dasty!
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Heeft Macaulay Culkin eigenlijk al gereageerd?

Zit net RTL nieuws te kijken. Vind het ergens wel triest dat mensen naar de Dam in Amsterdam gaan om hem te herdenken. LIjkt mij niet de juiste plaats..
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 19:48:16 #18
79166 Qwea
#teampindakaas #viesdik
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It is on his album "Blood on the Dance Floor"...

Michael Jackson writes about the drug Demerol:

Demerol
Demerol
Oh God he's taking demerol
Demerol
Demerol
Oh God he's taking demerol

He's tried
Hard to convince her
To be over what he had
Today he wants it twice as bad
Don't cry
I won't resent you
Yesterday you had his trust
Today he's taking twice as much

Demerol
Demerol
Oh God he's taking demerol
Hee-hee-hee
Demerol
Demerol
Oh my Oh God it's Demerol
Hee
Oooh
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 19:43 schreef DancingPhoebe het volgende:
Ik ben wel heel blij voor hem dat hij voor zijn dood tot artist of the millenium is uitgeroepen!
All those moments will be lost, like tears in rain... Time to die.
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:00:17 #20
262 Re
Kiss & Swallow
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 19:14 schreef Mirjam het volgende:

[..]


kickuh huh
04-08-11, 02-02-12, 20-06-14, 13-08-15
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:01:10 #21
127809 SuperrrTuxxx
Zwerver met een wekker
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 19:09 schreef Disorder het volgende:
[ afbeelding ]
Heddegijdagezeedgehadjamindedawerkelukwoarhoedoedegijdahoedoedegijdahoeheddegijdagedoan.
Don't you ever get stuck in the sky when you're high?
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Patty Brard als MJ-expert op SBS6. Minachting voor de kijker, nodig een echte kenner uit.
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:02:30 #23
182666 Harajuku.
C'est magnifique.
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When EMTs arrived at Michael Jackson's home yesterday, the medics wanted to pronounce him dead on the scene -- but Michael's personal doctor refused to let them "call it" -- this according to sources close to the situation.

When EMTs arrived there was evidence someone had been performing CPR on Michael for "quite some time." There was evidence of Lidocaine -- an old-school drug that can be used to treat disturbances in the heart's rhythm. Medics took over performing CPR but determined Jackson was lifeless -- and wanted to call the coroner to pick up the body.

We're told Jackson was flat-lined when EMTs arrived.

But our sources say M.J.'s doc demanded EMTs continue performing CPR anyway, and demanded that they take Michael to the hospital.

Once they arrived at UCLA, we're told Jackson's doc continued to personally administer CPR -- even though it was clear Jackson was already gone.
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:02:55 #24
182666 Harajuku.
C'est magnifique.
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I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 19:43 schreef DancingPhoebe het volgende:
Ik ben wel heel blij voor hem dat hij voor zijn dood tot artist of the millenium is uitgeroepen!


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Ik kan gewoon nog het plaatsvervangend schaamrood op de kaken krijgen bij dat fragment!
I'll be walking home after drinking all my pennies. I'll keep passing the open windows. I'll dance, even if I have nowhere to do it but in my own living room.
~ How do I feel this good, sober?
~ For the night is dark and full of terrors
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Met opzet voor lul gezet door MTV. Ze beloofden hem de Artist of the Millennium award, anders zou hij niet komen opdraven.
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:05:04 #28
68576 eleusis
fokked op kidz
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Ik in een aantal worden omschreven: Ondernemend | Moedig | Stout | Lief | Positief | Intuïtief | Communicatief | Humor | Creatief | Spontaan | Open | Sociaal | Vrolijk | Organisator | Pro-actief | Meedenkend | Levensgenieter | Spiritueel
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Ja is dat zo joh?

Maar waarom dan ook niet gewoon zo'n award in het leven roepen?

Ik bedoel als je hem IEMAND had kunnen geven...
I'll be walking home after drinking all my pennies. I'll keep passing the open windows. I'll dance, even if I have nowhere to do it but in my own living room.
~ How do I feel this good, sober?
~ For the night is dark and full of terrors
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:11:47 #30
182666 Harajuku.
C'est magnifique.
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:04 schreef DrDentz het volgende:
Met opzet voor lul gezet door MTV. Ze beloofden hem de Artist of the Millennium award, anders zou hij niet komen opdraven.
Ik dacht dat Brit Brit hem wilde introduceren als maar er per ongeluk een award van maakte?
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:12:33 #31
115814 Drumpie
Zie Signature.
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'Michael Jackson was al dood verklaard'

AMSTERDAM - Het ambulancepersoneel dat Michael Jackson's hielp, stelde vast dat de zanger al dood was, maar zijn eigen arts wilde daar niets van weten...

Michael's arts weigerde toestemming te geven om de zanger offcieel dood te verklaren, meldt TMZ.

Het ambulancepersoneel vond op de locatie sporen van lidocaïne, een middel dat soms gebruikt wordt om hartritmestoornissen te behandelen. Ook zou er al geruime tijd hartmassage zijn uitgevoerd. Men ging echter door met hartmassage, ondanks het feit dat de zanger al lang dood was... Eigenlijk had het ambulancepersoneel de lijkschouwer willen bellen.

Waarom de arts van Michael eiste dat de zanger toch naar het ziekenhuis werd gereden, is onduidelijk, meldt TMZ. De arts in kwestie wordt door de politie gezocht, maar is nog niet gevonden.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/p(...)od_verklaard___.html

rare vent die arts..
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:15:06 #32
127809 SuperrrTuxxx
Zwerver met een wekker
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:12 schreef Drumpie het volgende:

[..]

http://www.telegraaf.nl/p(...)od_verklaard___.html

rare vent die arts..
Idd.
Heddegijdagezeedgehadjamindedawerkelukwoarhoedoedegijdahoedoedegijdahoeheddegijdagedoan.
Don't you ever get stuck in the sky when you're high?
  Eurovisie Songfestival Queen vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:16:12 #33
163650 Greys
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:00 schreef Re het volgende:

[..]

kickuh huh
Sarcasme FTW.

Hoop ik?
IT'S GREYSIE IT'S PARTY
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Doet me toch wel wat, dit...was vooral als kind een fan (in de 80's dus)...helemaal idolaat, posters aan de muur, alles verzamelen etc. (ik zeg altijd "toen ie nog bruin was").

Vond laatst nog een cassettebandje van Thriller...helemaal grijsgedraaid. Maar wat wil je na 25 jaar. Moet ook nog ergens de LP van Bad hebben

Heb nu de History CD aan staan...
  Eurovisie Songfestival Queen vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:18:03 #35
163650 Greys
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:12 schreef Drumpie het volgende:

[..]

http://www.telegraaf.nl/p(...)od_verklaard___.html

rare vent die arts..
Die wilde niet de boeken ingaan als zijnde 'de arts onder wiens handen MJ stierf' denk ik.
Stond vast slecht op zijn CV.
IT'S GREYSIE IT'S PARTY
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:18:45 #36
182666 Harajuku.
C'est magnifique.
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Waarom zijn ze dan nog een uur met hem bezig geweest
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:19:47 #37
262 Re
Kiss & Swallow
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:16 schreef Greys het volgende:

[..]

Sarcasme FTW.

Hoop ik?
ja
04-08-11, 02-02-12, 20-06-14, 13-08-15
  Moderator vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:20:10 #38
18653 crew  D.
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Ik weet nog niet zo goed wat ik ermee moet
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Eerst wachten tot z'n moeder er is denk ik. Anders hoort die vrouw van het overlijden van haar zoon via CNN. :/
  Eurovisie Songfestival Queen vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:21:46 #40
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:18 schreef Harajuku. het volgende:
Waarom zijn ze dan nog een uur met hem bezig geweest
Ja dat zei Jermaine he?
Dat lijkt me dan ook nogal veel/lang, als iemand eigenlijk al dood is.
Misschien dat ze toch nog alles wilden proberen om het hart weer aan de gang te krijgen (al is het maar om de familie het gevoel te geven dat echt alles geprobeerd is misschien ).
IT'S GREYSIE IT'S PARTY
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:23:36 #41
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als hij al dood was verklaard on-site dan had dat natuurlijk niet zo tof geweest voor de arts, hij had dan immers veels te laat 911 gebeld...
04-08-11, 02-02-12, 20-06-14, 13-08-15
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Hier heb je de tape trouwens.

http://www.tmz.com/
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:25:31 #43
182666 Harajuku.
C'est magnifique.
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:21 schreef Greys het volgende:

[..]

Ja dat zei Jermaine he?
Dat lijkt me dan ook nogal veel/lang, als iemand eigenlijk al dood is.
Misschien dat ze toch nog alles wilden proberen om het hart weer aan de gang te krijgen (al is het maar om de familie het gevoel te geven dat echt alles geprobeerd is misschien ).
Ja, dat bedoel ik ook. Lijkt een beetje zinloos dan
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:25:46 #44
182666 Harajuku.
C'est magnifique.
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:23 schreef DrDentz het volgende:
Hier heb je de tape trouwens.

http://www.tmz.com/
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I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
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911 Tape Michael Jackson

http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/062609_michael_2.mp3
quote:
The person who makes the call says Jackson was not breathing and unconscious. Jackson was not responding to CPR. The caller says the doctor on scene -- Dr. Conrad Murray -- was only witness -- "The doctor has been the only one here."
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:27:01 #46
182666 Harajuku.
C'est magnifique.
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quote:
We have just learned Dr. Conrad Robert Murray -- the guy who was with Jackson when he collapsed -- is now in Los Angeles.

He is preparing to speak with law enforcement officials regarding Michael Jackson's death.
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:27:08 #47
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Wie is de beller eigenlijk ?
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Wat een rare dokter man.
  Eurovisie Songfestival Queen vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:27:28 #49
163650 Greys
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:23 schreef Re het volgende:
als hij al dood was verklaard on-site dan had dat natuurlijk niet zo tof geweest voor de arts, hij had dan immers veels te laat 911 gebeld...
Ja precies! Die heeft waarschijnlijk eerst in paniek zelf zitten rommelen en pas toen het al veel te laat was toch maar 911 gebeld. Fijn, zo'n eigen privé arts...
IT'S GREYSIE IT'S PARTY
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:28:04 #50
182666 Harajuku.
C'est magnifique.
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:27 schreef Greys het volgende:

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Ja precies! Die heeft waarschijnlijk eerst in paniek zelf zitten rommelen en pas toen het al veel te laat was toch maar 911 gebeld. Fijn, zo'n eigen privé arts...
Maar dat is nog geen reden om nog een uur door te gaan?
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:30:12 #51
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Zie Signature.
  Eurovisie Songfestival Queen vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:30:40 #52
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Als de dokter de enige was die bij MJ was at the time en hij was niet de beller, dan klopt daar iets heel erg niet aan het verhaal natuurlijk.

Want als de dokter de beller was, dan klopt dit niet:
quote:
The person who makes the call says Jackson was not breathing and unconscious. Jackson was not responding to CPR. The caller says the doctor on scene -- Dr. Conrad Murray -- was only witness -- "The doctor has been the only one here."
IT'S GREYSIE IT'S PARTY
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:32:46 #53
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De dokter is niet de beller
  Eurovisie Songfestival Queen vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:33:43 #54
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:28 schreef Harajuku. het volgende:

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Maar dat is nog geen reden om nog een uur door te gaan?
In het ziekenhuis zijn ze nog een uur doorgegaan. Wellicht hadden ze daar toch nog het idee dat er nog opties waren. Ik heb nul komma nul medische kennis, dus vergeef me als ik iets doms zeg. Maar misschien had de dokter bij MJ thuis geen defibrilator en de artsen in het ziekenhuis uiteraard wel. Ik weet het ook niet
Misschien zijn ze niet echt een uur doorgegaan, maar hebben ze dat tegen de familie gezegd om die niet het idee te geven dat ze het snel opgegeven hebben o.i.d.
IT'S GREYSIE IT'S PARTY
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quote:
We have just learned Dr. Conrad Robert Murray -- the guy who was with Jackson when he collapsed -- is now in Los Angeles.

He is preparing to speak with law enforcement officials regarding Michael Jackson's death.
  Eurovisie Songfestival Queen vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:35:00 #56
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:32 schreef N.icka het volgende:
De dokter is niet de beller
En die dokter is hem gesmeerd, toch? Want die konden ze in eerste instantie toch helemaal niet meer vinden?
Da's toch een leipo eerste klas dan? Je gaat toch met je patiënt mee naar het ziekenhuis?

Ben wel benieuwd wie de beller nou was dan.
IT'S GREYSIE IT'S PARTY
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:35:37 #57
182666 Harajuku.
C'est magnifique.
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Inderdaad, wie is de beller
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
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Zijn kok ofzo?
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:37:46 #59
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Als iemand een hartstilstand krijgt bel je altijd!!!!! als eerste instantie de 112/911 Daarna ga je beginnen met reanimeren

Dus als de dokter hem heeft gevonden heeft hij niet 911 gebeld
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:40:14 #60
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Factual, I think.
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 19:43 schreef DancingPhoebe het volgende:

Ik ben wel heel blij voor hem dat hij voor zijn dood tot artist of the millenium is uitgeroepen!
Het vorige millenium, mag ik hopen?
Dan nog....
Who the fuck can sleep with all this shit going on?
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:42:10 #61
67379 Mirjam
ermahgerd
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:37 schreef N.icka het volgende:
Als iemand een hartstilstand krijgt bel je altijd!!!!! als eerste instantie de 112/911 Daarna ga je beginnen met reanimeren

Dus als de dokter hem heeft gevonden heeft hij niet 911 gebeld
nee, maargoed, als je als dokter iemand vindt. begin je toch cpr, en ga je niet eerst 112 bellen
dat doe je dan later (tussendoor) ff, of laat je doen
'Met een banaan door het water, later'
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  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:44:33 #62
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quote:
Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:42 schreef Mirjam het volgende:

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nee, maargoed, als je als dokter iemand vindt. begin je toch cpr, en ga je niet eerst 112 bellen
dat doe je dan later (tussendoor) ff, of laat je doen
Nee je belt altijd als eerste en daarna ga je pas aan de slag

* de dokter was alleen bij hem
*de dokter belt niet als eerste de hulptroepen
* de dokter reanimeert op bed , ipv op harde ondergrond
*de dokter gaat niet mee naar het zh maar vedwijnt een hele dag

hmz
  Eurovisie Songfestival Queen vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:45:08 #63
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quote:
Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:42 schreef Mirjam het volgende:

[..]

nee, maargoed, als je als dokter iemand vindt. begin je toch cpr, en ga je niet eerst 112 bellen
dat doe je dan later (tussendoor) ff, of laat je doen
Jawel hoor, dan bel je toch echt eerst 911 en begin je ondertussen met de telefoon tussen je hoofd en je schouder vast met CPR ofzo. Of je gooit hem op de speaker. Dat kan je echt wel, als privé arts, lijkt me.
IT'S GREYSIE IT'S PARTY
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Lisa Marie Presley krijgt Elvis flashbacks

He Knew.


Years ago Michael and I were having a deep conversation about life in general.

I can't recall the exact subject matter but he may have been questioning me about the circumstances of my Fathers Death.

At some point he paused, he stared at me very intensely and he stated with an almost calm certainty, "I am afraid that I am going to end up like him, the way he did."

I promptly tried to deter him from the idea, at which point he just shrugged his shoulders and nodded almost matter of fact as if to let me know, he knew what he knew and that was kind of that.

14 years later I am sitting here watching on the news an ambulance leaves the driveway of his home, the big gates, the crowds outside the gates, the coverage, the crowds outside the hospital, the Cause of death and what may have led up to it and the memory of this conversation hit me, as did the unstoppable tears.

A predicted ending by him, by loved ones and by me, but what I didn't predict was how much it was going to hurt when it finally happened.

The person I failed to help is being transferred right now to the LA County Coroners office for his Autopsy.

All of my indifference and detachment that I worked so hard to achieve over the years has just gone into the bowels of hell and right now I am gutted.

I am going to say now what I have never said before because I want the truth out there for once.

Our relationship was not "a sham" as is being reported in the press. It was an unusual relationship yes, where two unusual people who did not live or know a "Normal life" found a connection, perhaps with some suspect timing on his part. Nonetheless, I do believe he loved me as much as he could love anyone and I loved him very much.

I wanted to "save him" I wanted to save him from the inevitable which is what has just happened.

His family and his loved ones also wanted to save him from this as well but didn't know how and this was 14 years ago. We all worried that this would be the outcome then.

At that time, In trying to save him, I almost lost myself.

He was an incredibly dynamic force and power that was not to be underestimated.

When he used it for something good, It was the best and when he used it for something bad, It was really, REALLY bad.

Mediocrity was not a concept that would even for a second enter Michael Jackson's being or actions.

I became very ill and emotionally/ spiritually exhausted in my quest to save him from certain self-destructive behavior and from the awful vampires and leeches he would always manage to magnetize around him.

I was in over my head while trying.

I had my children to care for, I had to make a decision.

The hardest decision I have ever had to make, which was to walk away and let his fate have him, even though I desperately loved him and tried to stop or reverse it somehow.

After the Divorce, I spent a few years obsessing about him and what I could have done different, in regret.

Then I spent some angry years at the whole situation.

At some point, I truly became Indifferent, until now.

As I sit here overwhelmed with sadness, reflection and confusion at what was my biggest failure to date, watching on the news almost play by play The exact Scenario I saw happen on August 16th, 1977 happening again right now with Michael (A sight I never wanted to see again) just as he predicted, I am truly, truly gutted.

Any ill experience or words I have felt towards him in the past has just died inside of me along with him.

He was an amazing person and I am lucky to have gotten as close to him as I did and to have had the many experiences and years that we had together.

I desperately hope that he can be relieved from his pain, pressure and turmoil now.

He deserves to be free from all of that and I hope he is in a better place or will be.

I also hope that anyone else who feels they have failed to help him can be set free because he hopefully finally is.

The World is in shock but somehow he knew exactly how his fate would be played out some day more than anyone else knew, and he was right.


I really needed to say this right now, thanks for listening.


~LMP
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Ik las hem ook net ja, die vind ik wel ontroerend..
I'll be walking home after drinking all my pennies. I'll keep passing the open windows. I'll dance, even if I have nowhere to do it but in my own living room.
~ How do I feel this good, sober?
~ For the night is dark and full of terrors
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begin nu flink te balen, had tickets voor zijn show in london, al die toffe muziek pestzooiiii
  FOK!-Schrikkelbaas vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 20:58:17 #67
862 Arcee
Look closer
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'Michael Jackson overleden'.... om de een of andere reden komt het niet over. Zijn sterstatus was te groot, zo ongrijpbaar. De mens Jackson kon wel dood, de artiest niet. En voor die laatste is het misschien wel goed dat-ie dood is. Alle onzinverhalen verdwijnen naar de achtergrond en wat overblijft is een geniale muzikant en entertainer.

Ja, de mens Michael Jackson had nog lang mogen leven, maar de artiest Michael Jackson had al lang dood moeten zijn. Daarom komt het misschien ook niet over.

De man was een icoon, een superster als geen ander. En hij maakte prachtige muziek.

Of, zoals iemand zei: "He was a genre".

Michael Jackson
Never in the entire history of calming down did anyone ever calm down after being told to calm down.
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June 26, 2009, (Sawf News) - Michael Jackson collapsed after being administered a Demerol injection at home, an aide to the pop star told medics, according to a UCLA source via The Sun.

A source close to Michael Jackson confirmed the Demerol injection.

"Shortly after taking the Demerol he started to experience slow shallow breathing," the source told The Sun.

"His breathing gradually got slower and slower until it stopped.

"His staff started mouth-to-mouth and an ambulance was called which got there in eight minutes.

"But paramedics found he was in full respiratory arrest, no breathing and no pulse. They started full CPR and rushed him to hospital.

"When he arrived they started resuscitation, giving him heart shocks and inserted a breathing tube and other supportive measures to try and save his life.

"He never regained consciousness. The family was told that he had passed."

Demerol is a powerful painkiller similar to morphine. Jackson was reportedly addicted to the drug and took a fatal over dose of it.

Michael's lawyer, Brian Oxman, told CNN yesterday that the pop star resorted to medication in the run up to the O2 gigs to tide over pain from past injuries sustained, which included a burnt scalp and a broken vertebrae and leg.

Michael was treated for addiction to painkillers, including Demerol, at the Betty Ford Clinic.

According to TMZ, cops seized syringes and drugs, including Demerol, during a raid at his Neverland Ranch during the child molestation trial.
http://news.sawf.org/Gossip/58627.aspx
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Die dokter heeft nog aan lopen kloten na die injectie en is 'm toen gesmeerd. Wtf.
  Eurovisie Songfestival Queen vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 21:02:03 #70
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:49 schreef DancingPhoebe het volgende:
Ik las hem ook net ja, die vind ik wel ontroerend..
Ik ook.
Maar stiekem vind ik die brief ook vol enigszins misplaatste zelfverheerlijking zitten.
Het gaat wel héél erg over haarzelf en hoe zij hem heeft geprobeerd te redden.

Verder vind ik het jammer dat ze dit zegt...
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Any ill experience or words I have felt towards him in the past has just died inside of me along with him.
... maar het dan toch nodig vindt om in dezelfde brief/statement dit te zeggen:
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When he used it for something good, It was the best and when he used it for something bad, It was really, REALLY bad.
IT'S GREYSIE IT'S PARTY
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Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:58 schreef Arcee het volgende:
'Michael Jackson overleden'.... om de een of andere reden komt het niet over. Zijn sterstatus was te groot, zo ongrijpbaar. De mens Jackson kon wel dood, de artiest niet. En voor die laatste is het misschien wel goed dat-ie dood is. Alle onzinverhalen verdwijnen naar de achtergrond en wat overblijft is een geniale muzikant en entertainer.

Ja, de mens Michael Jackson had nog lang mogen leven, maar de artiest Michael Jackson had al lang dood moeten zijn. Daarom komt het misschien ook niet over.

De man was een icoon, een superster als geen ander. En hij maakte prachtige muziek.

Of, zoals iemand zei: "He was a genre".

Michael Jackson
Ja inderdaad!

Nja misschien als hij nog langer had geleefd, wie weet kreeg hij wel nog meer ellende over zich heen..
Maar hij is ook zo'n iemand waarvan je niet verwacht dat hij zomaar dood kan gaan... heel apart..
tenminste dat gevoel had ik altijd
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 21:07:38 #72
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De dokter heeft dus waarschijnlijk een overdosis gegeven , jeumig
  vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 21:09:15 #73
94046 PM-girl
Is geen haartje betoeterd...
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Mooie woorden van Lisa Marie!

Ik vind het verhaal nu wat schimmig worden, met die arts. Wanneer het om een natuurlijke hartstilstand zou gaan, heeft hij raar gereageerd. Ik zou nu denken aan hulp bij zelfdoding? Ik weet alleen niet of dat illegaal is in de VS.
...maar weI in de aap gelogeerd :P
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Ik stuur al sinds oktober 2006 PM's, word ik dan nu PM-woman?
Laat maar: PMS-girl it is.....
  Admin vrijdag 26 juni 2009 @ 21:12:13 #74
2589 crew  yvonne
On(t)deugend
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Yvonne riep ergens: Static is gewoon Static, je leeft met hem of niet.
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.


Op dinsdag 26 oktober 2021 16:46 schreef Elan het volgende:
Hier sta ik dan weer niet van te kijken Zelfs het virus is bang voor jou.
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Minder dan 24 uur geleden leefde hij gewoon nog, voelt vreemd.
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