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Als de dokter de enige was die bij MJ was at the time en hij was niet de beller, dan klopt daar iets heel erg niet aan het verhaal natuurlijk.
Want als de dokter de beller was, dan klopt dit niet:
Want als de dokter de beller was, dan klopt dit niet:
quote:The person who makes the call says Jackson was not breathing and unconscious. Jackson was not responding to CPR. The caller says the doctor on scene -- Dr. Conrad Murray -- was only witness -- "The doctor has been the only one here."
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In het ziekenhuis zijn ze nog een uur doorgegaan. Wellicht hadden ze daar toch nog het idee dat er nog opties waren. Ik heb nul komma nul medische kennis, dus vergeef me als ik iets doms zeg. Maar misschien had de dokter bij MJ thuis geen defibrilator en de artsen in het ziekenhuis uiteraard wel. Ik weet het ook nietquote:Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:28 schreef Harajuku. het volgende:
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Maar dat is nog geen reden om nog een uur door te gaan?
Misschien zijn ze niet echt een uur doorgegaan, maar hebben ze dat tegen de familie gezegd om die niet het idee te geven dat ze het snel opgegeven hebben o.i.d.
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quote:We have just learned Dr. Conrad Robert Murray -- the guy who was with Jackson when he collapsed -- is now in Los Angeles.
He is preparing to speak with law enforcement officials regarding Michael Jackson's death.
En die dokter is hem gesmeerd, toch? Want die konden ze in eerste instantie toch helemaal niet meer vinden?quote:
Da's toch een leipo eerste klas dan? Je gaat toch met je patiënt mee naar het ziekenhuis?
Ben wel benieuwd wie de beller nou was dan.
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Als iemand een hartstilstand krijgt bel je altijd!!!!! als eerste instantie de 112/911 Daarna ga je beginnen met reanimeren
Dus als de dokter hem heeft gevonden heeft hij niet 911 gebeld
Dus als de dokter hem heeft gevonden heeft hij niet 911 gebeld
Het vorige millenium, mag ik hopen?quote:Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 19:43 schreef DancingPhoebe het volgende:
Ik ben wel heel blij voor hem dat hij voor zijn dood tot artist of the millenium is uitgeroepen!
Dan nog....
Who the fuck can sleep with all this shit going on?
nee, maargoed, als je als dokter iemand vindt. begin je toch cpr, en ga je niet eerst 112 bellenquote:Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:37 schreef N.icka het volgende:
Als iemand een hartstilstand krijgt bel je altijd!!!!! als eerste instantie de 112/911 Daarna ga je beginnen met reanimeren
Dus als de dokter hem heeft gevonden heeft hij niet 911 gebeld
dat doe je dan later (tussendoor) ff, of laat je doen
Nee je belt altijd als eerste en daarna ga je pas aan de slagquote:
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nee, maargoed, als je als dokter iemand vindt. begin je toch cpr, en ga je niet eerst 112 bellen
dat doe je dan later (tussendoor) ff, of laat je doen
* de dokter was alleen bij hem
*de dokter belt niet als eerste de hulptroepen
* de dokter reanimeert op bed , ipv op harde ondergrond
*de dokter gaat niet mee naar het zh maar vedwijnt een hele dag
hmz
Jawel hoor, dan bel je toch echt eerst 911 en begin je ondertussen met de telefoon tussen je hoofd en je schouder vast met CPR ofzo. Of je gooit hem op de speaker. Dat kan je echt wel, als privé arts, lijkt me.quote:
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nee, maargoed, als je als dokter iemand vindt. begin je toch cpr, en ga je niet eerst 112 bellen
dat doe je dan later (tussendoor) ff, of laat je doen
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Lisa Marie Presley krijgt Elvis flashbacks
He Knew.
Years ago Michael and I were having a deep conversation about life in general.
I can't recall the exact subject matter but he may have been questioning me about the circumstances of my Fathers Death.
At some point he paused, he stared at me very intensely and he stated with an almost calm certainty, "I am afraid that I am going to end up like him, the way he did."
I promptly tried to deter him from the idea, at which point he just shrugged his shoulders and nodded almost matter of fact as if to let me know, he knew what he knew and that was kind of that.
14 years later I am sitting here watching on the news an ambulance leaves the driveway of his home, the big gates, the crowds outside the gates, the coverage, the crowds outside the hospital, the Cause of death and what may have led up to it and the memory of this conversation hit me, as did the unstoppable tears.
A predicted ending by him, by loved ones and by me, but what I didn't predict was how much it was going to hurt when it finally happened.
The person I failed to help is being transferred right now to the LA County Coroners office for his Autopsy.
All of my indifference and detachment that I worked so hard to achieve over the years has just gone into the bowels of hell and right now I am gutted.
I am going to say now what I have never said before because I want the truth out there for once.
Our relationship was not "a sham" as is being reported in the press. It was an unusual relationship yes, where two unusual people who did not live or know a "Normal life" found a connection, perhaps with some suspect timing on his part. Nonetheless, I do believe he loved me as much as he could love anyone and I loved him very much.
I wanted to "save him" I wanted to save him from the inevitable which is what has just happened.
His family and his loved ones also wanted to save him from this as well but didn't know how and this was 14 years ago. We all worried that this would be the outcome then.
At that time, In trying to save him, I almost lost myself.
He was an incredibly dynamic force and power that was not to be underestimated.
When he used it for something good, It was the best and when he used it for something bad, It was really, REALLY bad.
Mediocrity was not a concept that would even for a second enter Michael Jackson's being or actions.
I became very ill and emotionally/ spiritually exhausted in my quest to save him from certain self-destructive behavior and from the awful vampires and leeches he would always manage to magnetize around him.
I was in over my head while trying.
I had my children to care for, I had to make a decision.
The hardest decision I have ever had to make, which was to walk away and let his fate have him, even though I desperately loved him and tried to stop or reverse it somehow.
After the Divorce, I spent a few years obsessing about him and what I could have done different, in regret.
Then I spent some angry years at the whole situation.
At some point, I truly became Indifferent, until now.
As I sit here overwhelmed with sadness, reflection and confusion at what was my biggest failure to date, watching on the news almost play by play The exact Scenario I saw happen on August 16th, 1977 happening again right now with Michael (A sight I never wanted to see again) just as he predicted, I am truly, truly gutted.
Any ill experience or words I have felt towards him in the past has just died inside of me along with him.
He was an amazing person and I am lucky to have gotten as close to him as I did and to have had the many experiences and years that we had together.
I desperately hope that he can be relieved from his pain, pressure and turmoil now.
He deserves to be free from all of that and I hope he is in a better place or will be.
I also hope that anyone else who feels they have failed to help him can be set free because he hopefully finally is.
The World is in shock but somehow he knew exactly how his fate would be played out some day more than anyone else knew, and he was right.
I really needed to say this right now, thanks for listening.
~LMP
He Knew.
Years ago Michael and I were having a deep conversation about life in general.
I can't recall the exact subject matter but he may have been questioning me about the circumstances of my Fathers Death.
At some point he paused, he stared at me very intensely and he stated with an almost calm certainty, "I am afraid that I am going to end up like him, the way he did."
I promptly tried to deter him from the idea, at which point he just shrugged his shoulders and nodded almost matter of fact as if to let me know, he knew what he knew and that was kind of that.
14 years later I am sitting here watching on the news an ambulance leaves the driveway of his home, the big gates, the crowds outside the gates, the coverage, the crowds outside the hospital, the Cause of death and what may have led up to it and the memory of this conversation hit me, as did the unstoppable tears.
A predicted ending by him, by loved ones and by me, but what I didn't predict was how much it was going to hurt when it finally happened.
The person I failed to help is being transferred right now to the LA County Coroners office for his Autopsy.
All of my indifference and detachment that I worked so hard to achieve over the years has just gone into the bowels of hell and right now I am gutted.
I am going to say now what I have never said before because I want the truth out there for once.
Our relationship was not "a sham" as is being reported in the press. It was an unusual relationship yes, where two unusual people who did not live or know a "Normal life" found a connection, perhaps with some suspect timing on his part. Nonetheless, I do believe he loved me as much as he could love anyone and I loved him very much.
I wanted to "save him" I wanted to save him from the inevitable which is what has just happened.
His family and his loved ones also wanted to save him from this as well but didn't know how and this was 14 years ago. We all worried that this would be the outcome then.
At that time, In trying to save him, I almost lost myself.
He was an incredibly dynamic force and power that was not to be underestimated.
When he used it for something good, It was the best and when he used it for something bad, It was really, REALLY bad.
Mediocrity was not a concept that would even for a second enter Michael Jackson's being or actions.
I became very ill and emotionally/ spiritually exhausted in my quest to save him from certain self-destructive behavior and from the awful vampires and leeches he would always manage to magnetize around him.
I was in over my head while trying.
I had my children to care for, I had to make a decision.
The hardest decision I have ever had to make, which was to walk away and let his fate have him, even though I desperately loved him and tried to stop or reverse it somehow.
After the Divorce, I spent a few years obsessing about him and what I could have done different, in regret.
Then I spent some angry years at the whole situation.
At some point, I truly became Indifferent, until now.
As I sit here overwhelmed with sadness, reflection and confusion at what was my biggest failure to date, watching on the news almost play by play The exact Scenario I saw happen on August 16th, 1977 happening again right now with Michael (A sight I never wanted to see again) just as he predicted, I am truly, truly gutted.
Any ill experience or words I have felt towards him in the past has just died inside of me along with him.
He was an amazing person and I am lucky to have gotten as close to him as I did and to have had the many experiences and years that we had together.
I desperately hope that he can be relieved from his pain, pressure and turmoil now.
He deserves to be free from all of that and I hope he is in a better place or will be.
I also hope that anyone else who feels they have failed to help him can be set free because he hopefully finally is.
The World is in shock but somehow he knew exactly how his fate would be played out some day more than anyone else knew, and he was right.
I really needed to say this right now, thanks for listening.
~LMP
Ik las hem ook net ja, die vind ik wel ontroerend..
I'll be walking home after drinking all my pennies. I'll keep passing the open windows. I'll dance, even if I have nowhere to do it but in my own living room.
~ How do I feel this good, sober?
~ For the night is dark and full of terrors
~ How do I feel this good, sober?
~ For the night is dark and full of terrors
'Michael Jackson overleden'.... om de een of andere reden komt het niet over. Zijn sterstatus was te groot, zo ongrijpbaar. De mens Jackson kon wel dood, de artiest niet. En voor die laatste is het misschien wel goed dat-ie dood is. Alle onzinverhalen verdwijnen naar de achtergrond en wat overblijft is een geniale muzikant en entertainer.
Ja, de mens Michael Jackson had nog lang mogen leven, maar de artiest Michael Jackson had al lang dood moeten zijn. Daarom komt het misschien ook niet over.
De man was een icoon, een superster als geen ander. En hij maakte prachtige muziek.
Of, zoals iemand zei: "He was a genre".
Michael Jackson
Ja, de mens Michael Jackson had nog lang mogen leven, maar de artiest Michael Jackson had al lang dood moeten zijn. Daarom komt het misschien ook niet over.
De man was een icoon, een superster als geen ander. En hij maakte prachtige muziek.
Of, zoals iemand zei: "He was a genre".
Michael Jackson
Never in the entire history of calming down did anyone ever calm down after being told to calm down.
http://news.sawf.org/Gossip/58627.aspxquote:June 26, 2009, (Sawf News) - Michael Jackson collapsed after being administered a Demerol injection at home, an aide to the pop star told medics, according to a UCLA source via The Sun.
A source close to Michael Jackson confirmed the Demerol injection.
"Shortly after taking the Demerol he started to experience slow shallow breathing," the source told The Sun.
"His breathing gradually got slower and slower until it stopped.
"His staff started mouth-to-mouth and an ambulance was called which got there in eight minutes.
"But paramedics found he was in full respiratory arrest, no breathing and no pulse. They started full CPR and rushed him to hospital.
"When he arrived they started resuscitation, giving him heart shocks and inserted a breathing tube and other supportive measures to try and save his life.
"He never regained consciousness. The family was told that he had passed."
Demerol is a powerful painkiller similar to morphine. Jackson was reportedly addicted to the drug and took a fatal over dose of it.
Michael's lawyer, Brian Oxman, told CNN yesterday that the pop star resorted to medication in the run up to the O2 gigs to tide over pain from past injuries sustained, which included a burnt scalp and a broken vertebrae and leg.
Michael was treated for addiction to painkillers, including Demerol, at the Betty Ford Clinic.
According to TMZ, cops seized syringes and drugs, including Demerol, during a raid at his Neverland Ranch during the child molestation trial.
Ik ook.quote:
Ik las hem ook net ja, die vind ik wel ontroerend..
Maar stiekem vind ik die brief ook vol enigszins misplaatste zelfverheerlijking zitten.
Het gaat wel héél erg over haarzelf en hoe zij hem heeft geprobeerd te redden.
Verder vind ik het jammer dat ze dit zegt...
... maar het dan toch nodig vindt om in dezelfde brief/statement dit te zeggen:quote:Any ill experience or words I have felt towards him in the past has just died inside of me along with him.
quote:When he used it for something good, It was the best and when he used it for something bad, It was really, REALLY bad.
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Ja inderdaad!quote:Op vrijdag 26 juni 2009 20:58 schreef Arcee het volgende:
'Michael Jackson overleden'.... om de een of andere reden komt het niet over. Zijn sterstatus was te groot, zo ongrijpbaar. De mens Jackson kon wel dood, de artiest niet. En voor die laatste is het misschien wel goed dat-ie dood is. Alle onzinverhalen verdwijnen naar de achtergrond en wat overblijft is een geniale muzikant en entertainer.
Ja, de mens Michael Jackson had nog lang mogen leven, maar de artiest Michael Jackson had al lang dood moeten zijn. Daarom komt het misschien ook niet over.
De man was een icoon, een superster als geen ander. En hij maakte prachtige muziek.
Of, zoals iemand zei: "He was a genre".
Nja misschien als hij nog langer had geleefd, wie weet kreeg hij wel nog meer ellende over zich heen..
Maar hij is ook zo'n iemand waarvan je niet verwacht dat hij zomaar dood kan gaan... heel apart..
tenminste dat gevoel had ik altijd
Mooie woorden van Lisa Marie!
Ik vind het verhaal nu wat schimmig worden, met die arts. Wanneer het om een natuurlijke hartstilstand zou gaan, heeft hij raar gereageerd. Ik zou nu denken aan hulp bij zelfdoding? Ik weet alleen niet of dat illegaal is in de VS.
Ik vind het verhaal nu wat schimmig worden, met die arts. Wanneer het om een natuurlijke hartstilstand zou gaan, heeft hij raar gereageerd. Ik zou nu denken aan hulp bij zelfdoding? Ik weet alleen niet of dat illegaal is in de VS.
...maar weI in de aap gelogeerd :P
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Ik stuur al sinds oktober 2006 PM's, word ik dan nu PM-woman?
Laat maar: PMS-girl it is.....
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Ik stuur al sinds oktober 2006 PM's, word ik dan nu PM-woman?
Laat maar: PMS-girl it is.....
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Yvonne riep ergens: Static is gewoon Static, je leeft met hem of niet.
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.
Op dinsdag 26 oktober 2021 16:46 schreef Elan het volgende:
Hier sta ik dan weer niet van te kijken Zelfs het virus is bang voor jou.
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.
Op dinsdag 26 oktober 2021 16:46 schreef Elan het volgende:
Hier sta ik dan weer niet van te kijken Zelfs het virus is bang voor jou.
