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quote:
Op vrijdag 9 oktober 2009 12:32 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
The message of this 'communication' should be clear

Tunguska is a warning

Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space

we must not mess with nuclear power
Spijtig genoeg zal de mens pas leren als hij met zijn gezicht tegen een muur knalt ...
I understand how you feel. You see, it's all very clear to me now. The whole thing. It's wonderful.
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After I had written my previous post and crossposted it at several forums, I wanted the check the news about this moon impact so I want to space daily and guess what:

I wrote:
quote:
I suddenly had this thought while at work and decided to check.

I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar landing on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

June 30, 1908 - October 9, 2009 = 36.992 days

Phi point is at 36.992 / 1.61803399 = 22.862 days

we talk about the timeframe around February 2, 1971

a timeframe that showed another 'impact' on the moon:

On January 31, 1971 Apollo 14 (carrying astronauts Alan Shepard, Stuart Roosa, and Edgar Mitchell) lifts off on the third successful lunar landing mission. The Apollo 14 landed on the Moon on February 5, 1971.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_14
unbeleivable: there has been an actual impact too!!!!!

LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site

Oct 09, 2009
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon. The energy of the impact created small tremors that were measured by the seismometer placed on the Moon by Apollo 12 astronauts in 1969.



The crater in the center of this image was formed by Apollo 14's Saturn IVB booster. The booster was intentionally impacted into the lunar surface on Feb. 4, 1971. The impact caused a minor "moonquake" that scientists used to learn about the moon's interior structure. Seismometers placed on the surface by Apollo astronauts returned data on the tremor.
http://www.moondaily.com/(...)Impact_Site_999.html

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean

unbelievable

fundamental truth

next in line of thought would be that the Tunguska event and the Apollo 11 first humans on the moon would show a related event in this 'communication' that is taking place, with the first humans on the moon at Phi point.

We talk about April 13-14, 2007:

A NASA Review Board finds that the Mars Global Surveyor stopped working in November 2006 due to computer programming errors.

The Mars Global Surveyor (MGS) was a US spacecraft developed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and launched November 1996. It began the United States's return to Mars after a 10-year absence. It completed its primary mission in January 2001 and was in its third extended mission phase when, on November 2, 2006, the spacecraft failed to respond to messages and commands. A faint signal was detected three days later which indicated that the craft had gone into safe mode. All attempts to recontact the Mars Global Surveyor and resolve the problem failed. In January 2007 NASA officially ended the mission.

Mars Global Surveyor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Global_Surveyor

Panel Says Computer Error Felled Mars Orbiter

Published: April 14, 2007

Although it circled Mars longer than any other spacecraft, the Mars Global Surveyor did not die a death of old age last November, a review board assembled by NASA announced yesterday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/14/science/space/14mars.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

The Mars Global Surveyor was taken out by Design with Earth around the same orbital position as during the launch, 10 years apart. Launched on November 7, 1996, last received message November 5, 2006.

Tunguska - humans on moon - loss of Mars Global Surveyor

the message should be clear: we must NOT go to Mars
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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quote:
Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean
Besides the given correlations, I expected some 'Tunguska conditioning' around this moon impact too, around October 9

and here it is:

BBC mainstream:

Asteroid collision 'less likely'

8 October 2009

Refined calculations of the asteroid Apophis's path show it is far less likely smash into Earth in 2036 than was previously thought.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8296796.stm

linked to this article at the same page:

Dr Richard Crowther is head of the United Nations Near Earth Object (Neo) programme. He told the BBC News website: "Tunguska reminds us that these impact events have occurred in the relatively recent past.

"The surveys suggest that objects of this size are numerous enough to anticipate similar events in the relatively near future."

Many observers are concerned by what they regard as a lack of action to counter the threat posed by near-Earth asteroids.

California-based space advocacy group the Planetary Society recently awarded an Atlanta-based aerospace company $50,000 (£25,000) to design a spacecraft which could rendezvous with and track the path of the asteroid 99942 Apophis.

In 2029, this 270m-wide chunk of cosmic debris will closely approach the Earth - so close, in fact, it will be visible with the naked eye.

from:
Fire in the sky: Tunguska at 100
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7470283.stm
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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There's something with this moon impact that needs further explanation.

I think you better read the previous posts again before you continue to read this posts, but of course you can do that later.

I have written about the Pi expression with the Deep Impact/Epoxi spacemission with this Moon - Earth transit as marker, the signifigance of this Moon -Earth transit, wich was in fact 'artificial' as it was caught on camera by the Deep Impact/ Epoxi spaceship.

I wrote about the October 9 Moon Impact:
quote:
First thought in relation to this Impact on the moon is of course the Deep Impact on comet Templ I on July 4, 2005.

July 4, 2005 - October 9, 2009 = 1.558 days

Phi point at 1.558 / 1,61803399 = 963 days

is February 21, 2008

with an impact in space:

U.S. Satellite Shootdown
http://www.spectrum.ieee.(...)own-the-inside-story
Sources: Navy to shoot down failed satellite Thursday February 21
http://www.cnn.com/2008/T(...)intercept/index.html
So we have 3 impacts in space, all manmade: Temple I, satellite and Moon.

expressing the Golden Mean Phi

So now we have both Pi and Phi expressed in space in relation to the Deep Impact mission.

It should make you think why The Golden Mean is expressed this way. These 3 events are manmade so the communication is 'outgoing'.

This lunar impact is intelligently determined

the question is, is NASA doing this consciously and if so: to who are they talking than?
if NASA is doing this without intent, just 'by coincidence' expressing both Pi and Phi in space with this Deep Impact mission, than its an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Design in our reality.

If the first is true than we have to understand that there has been an 'incoming' communication too expressing the Golden
Mean Phi in relation to Deep Impact: with these markers:
The use of nuclear weapons ( hirhoshima- Nagasaki) and the Tunguska event.

NASA's 'communication' with this lunar impact is either a rather 'violent'
message with these impacts in space or even 'hostile' if the 'communication' is consciously planned.
Remember that this Tunguska - the decision to use the atomic bomb - Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 was identified after the impact on comet Temple I, so that Tunguska was in fact marking the 2 biggest mistakes of mankind of these times. 'Tunguska' is the warning for these 2 mistakes, materialized 'in the past' of our limited 3D perception of time, beautifully expressed by the Golden Mean.

a few day later I added:
quote:
I suddenly had this thought while at work and decided to check.

I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar landing on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

June 30, 1908 - October 9, 2009 = 36.992 days

Phi point is at 36.992 / 1.61803399 = 22.862 days

we talk about the timeframe around February 2, 1971

a timeframe that showed another 'impact' on the moon:

On January 31, 1971 Apollo 14 (carrying astronauts Alan Shepard, Stuart Roosa, and Edgar Mitchell) lifts off on the third successful lunar landing mission. The Apollo 14 landed on the Moon on February 5, 1971.
later I found out that there has been an actual Impact on the moon too
during that timeframe, on February 4, 1971!
quote:
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon.
so we have these 2 Golden Mean Phi expressions marked by the Tunguska event:

Tunguska - nuclear bomb Hirhoshima/Nagasaki - Deep Impact on comet Temple I

and

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

I had to think about this because the first one seems to imply that the Tunguska event has happened on an intelligently designed moment in our perception of time in order to mark these other 2 events ( nuclear bomb and deep impact on comet Temple I) by the Golden Mean Phi.

I consider this to be an 'incoming communication'.

However, the second one also seems to imply that 'Tunguska' has happened in order to mark the 2 lunar impacts and this has been bothering me.

If you look at it than you will notice that only the lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has happened after the impact on comet Temple I.

Its either all intelligently Designed and predetermined or the lunar impact on October 9, 2009 has been deliberately planned in order to express the given intelligent correlation via the Golden mean Phi, as an outgoing communication.

Its like NASA saying 'oke we made a mistake with the Deep Impact on comet Temple I and we understand the 'intelligent inter-dimensional communication' that is taking place." With this 'useless' moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Nasa is ´confirming´ that the Tunguska warning has been understood.

Wit this in mind I started to investigate a bit more, if the timing of the Lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has been consciously planned by NASA, than this first identified Intelligent correlation between Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and this lunar impact must also have been manipulated in order to express this very same Golden Mean correlation.
quote:
July 4, 2005 - October 9, 2009 = 1.558 days

Phi point at 1.558 / 1,61803399 = 963 days

is February 21, 2008

with an impact in space:

U.S. Satellite Shootdown
At this point I became very curious about this satellite shootdown again and I decided to check the enterprisemission of Richard Hoagland because he´s into this Hyper Dimensional Physics research aswell.
Unlike Hoaglands work, HDDesign is about applied HD ´elements´on our perception of time while Richard Hoagland has a completely diffrent approach.

Anyway, I checked his said yesterday and found what I was looking for:

Richard writes in his article `The Baffling NRO Satellite Shoot-Down … an In-Depth Enterprise Analysis`:

In this new article, however, we present additional technical and political information, crucial now for understanding why the preceding “official satellite story” may, in fact, have been nothing more than an elaborate, government charade all along -- designed to cover the real reasons for the “sudden, urgent shoot-down.”

°°snip°°

This involved the critical modification, again on an unprecedented crash basis, of three standard “SM-3 missiles” – converting them from their intended “anti-ballistic missile interception capability” to a very different “satellite interception mode.” Also created in record time was a tactical “shoot-down plan” (below) – forced by events to intercept and “kill” USA 193 within the most difficult technical “window” imaginable -- just before reentry (so the resulting impact debris and hydrazine would quickly burn up in the Earth’s upper atmosphere …).

~~snip~~

All in all, a pretty complete picture of “what” was coming back to Earth … and “why.”

But, nothing to shed light on the increasingly puzzling, ever more urgent mystery: “why was everyone in the US military establishment suddenly so worried about this satellite … and now?”

Knowing that “what goes up into low Earth orbit … must eventually come down,” why had the NRO, the Pentagon and White House WAITED over a year … before they suddenly became “all hot and bothered” by the imminent reentry of USA-193, now projected for “sometime in late February/early March, 2008?”

And—

Why hadn’t anyone informed them of the “~1000 pounds of hydrazine on board” -- inevitably coming (uncontrollably!) back to Earth -- when they first lost their satellite control, back in 2006?!

Even with all this supporting technical detail, “something” about this entire "falling satellite story" just didn’t … ring right.

~~snip~~

And all of which still didn’t begin to address the “sudden, almost panicked urgency” for shooting down this satellite … and in the face of serious, quantifiable risks to known humans (the ISS crew …) -- after over a year of everyone previously simply ignoring 193’s inevitable return … along with its “~1000 pounds of hydrazine.”

~~snip~~

“The Lie is Different … at Every Level.”

From the full spectrum of the mainstream analysis presented here, it should be clear at this point that the baffling “shoot-down” of NRO 193 has fully lived up to this revealing intel motto: because, in the final analysis, no one seems to have a clue as to the real reason for the inexplicable, contradictory White House/Pentagon/NASA actions or pronouncements over this extraordinary incident.

But, there is a reason for this ... a startling, ritual reason!

And, as we shall see in Part II, there is far more lurking behind this “inexplicable satellite emergency” than has been admitted by anyone so far -- by either the White House ... the Pentagon—

Or NASA.

And … surprise, surprise … it involves the Moon.

~~
I recommend to read thw whole article here:
http://www.enterprisemission.com/satellite-shoot-analysis.htm

Richard goes on:
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What caught our eye was not so much the real-world political implications of this technological muscle flexing, but rather the strange and ritualistic pattern under which it was being carried out.


The satellite shootdown was carried out during a total lunar eclipse
read article here:
http://www.enterprisemission.com/hdtest.htm

Part II of his artcle has yet to be published.

So with this ´disappointing´ lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 and this satellite shootdown NASA is Intelligently interdimensionally communicating!
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  woensdag 21 oktober 2009 @ 23:45:25 #106
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Wat is dit voor topic? Niet eens een normale Nederlandse OP en alleen maar nietszeggende gekopieerde lappen Engelse tekst? Doe een een voorspelling dan dan controleren wij of het uitkomt. (ofzoiets blijkbaar kun je voorspellen)
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  donderdag 22 oktober 2009 @ 09:07:34 #107
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quote:
Op woensdag 21 oktober 2009 23:45 schreef -jos- het volgende:
Wat is dit voor topic? Niet eens een normale Nederlandse OP en alleen maar nietszeggende gekopieerde lappen Engelse tekst? Doe een een voorspelling dan dan controleren wij of het uitkomt. (ofzoiets blijkbaar kun je voorspellen)
Is je blow verkeerd gevallen?
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"Computer says: no.."
"Laat hen gaan, blinden zijn zij, die blinden leiden. Indien een blinde een blinde leidt, zullen zij beiden in een put vallen". (Matteüs 15:14)
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Hyper Dimensional Design at Hyves.

I am going to use this Hyve to post messages with expectations for specific future dates

http://dutch-hddesign.hyves.nl/
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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I wrote:

"Remember that this Tunguska - the decision to use the atomic bomb - Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 was identified after the impact on comet Temple I, so that Tunguska was in fact marking the 2 biggest mistakes of mankind of these times. 'Tunguska' is the warning for these 2 mistakes, materialized 'in the past' of our limited 3D perception of time, beautifully expressed by the Golden Mean."

"
so we have these 2 Golden Mean Phi expressions marked by the Tunguska event:

Tunguska - nuclear bomb Hirhoshima/Nagasaki - Deep Impact on comet Temple I

and

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

I had to think about this because the first one seems to imply that the Tunguska event has happened on an intelligently designed moment in our perception of time in order to mark these other 2 events ( nuclear bomb and deep impact on comet Temple I) by the Golden Mean Phi.

I consider this to be an 'incoming communication'.

However, the second one also seems to imply that 'Tunguska' has happened in order to mark the 2 lunar impacts and this has been bothering me.

If you look at it than you will notice that only the lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has happened after the impact on comet Temple I.

Its either all intelligently Designed and predetermined or the lunar impact on October 9, 2009 has been deliberately planned in order to express the given intelligent correlation via the Golden mean Phi, as an outgoing communication.

Its like NASA saying 'oke we made a mistake with the Deep Impact on comet Temple I and we understand the 'intelligent inter-dimensional communication' that is taking place." With this 'useless' moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Nasa is ´confirming´ that the Tunguska warning has been understood.

Wit this in mind I started to investigate a bit more, if the timing of the Lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 has been consciously planned by NASA, than this first identified Intelligent correlation between Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and this lunar impact must also have been manipulated in order to express this very same Golden Mean correlation. "

and on October 10 I wrote:
quote:
[quote]Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean
Besides the given correlations, I expected some 'Tunguska conditioning' around this moon impact too, around October 9

and here it is:

BBC mainstream:

Asteroid collision 'less likely'

8 October 2009

Refined calculations of the asteroid Apophis's path show it is far less likely smash into Earth in 2036 than was previously thought.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8296796.stm

linked to this article at the same page:

Dr Richard Crowther is head of the United Nations Near Earth Object (Neo) programme. He told the BBC News website: "Tunguska reminds us that these impact events have occurred in the relatively recent past.

"The surveys suggest that objects of this size are numerous enough to anticipate similar events in the relatively near future."

Many observers are concerned by what they regard as a lack of action to counter the threat posed by near-Earth asteroids.

California-based space advocacy group the Planetary Society recently awarded an Atlanta-based aerospace company $50,000 (£25,000) to design a spacecraft which could rendezvous with and track the path of the asteroid 99942 Apophis.

In 2029, this 270m-wide chunk of cosmic debris will closely approach the Earth - so close, in fact, it will be visible with the naked eye.

from:
Fire in the sky: Tunguska at 100
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7470283.stm[/quote]]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7470283.stm[/quote][/url]

So I have been expecting such a confirmation around October 9, but look what actually has happened on October 8, 2009, I just came to know about today october27:

It has been posted today by member 'Dreemz' on HDDesign forum:

Asteroid explosion over Indonesia raises fears about Earth's defences

An asteroid that exploded in the Earth’s atmosphere with the energy of three Hiroshima bombs this month has reignited fears about our planet’s defences against space impacts.

On 8 October, the rock crashed into the atmosphere above South Sulawesi, Indonesia. The blast was heard by monitoring stations 10,000 miles away, according to a report by scientists at the University of Western Ontario.

Scientists are concerned that it was not spotted by any telescopes, and that had it been larger it could have caused a disaster.

The asteroid, estimated to have been around 10 metres (30ft) across, hit the atmosphere at an estimated 45,000mph. The sudden deceleration caused it to heat up rapidly and explode with the force of 50,000 tons of TNT.

Luckily, due to the height of the explosion – estimated at between 15 and 20 km (nine to 12 miles) above sea level – no damage was caused on the ground.

However, if the object had been slightly larger – 20 to 30 metres (60 to 90ft) across – it could easily have caused extensive damage and loss of life, say researchers.

=snip=

An asteroid or comet fragment around 60 meters across is believed to have been behind the Tunguska Event, a powerful explosion that took place over Russia in 1908. The blast has been estimated at equivalent to 10-15 million tons of TNT – enough to destroy a large city.

The White House is to develop a policy on the space object impact threat by October next year.
http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)Earths-defences.html

I cannot emphasize enough that this is confirmative to what I have been expecting to happen around October 9!!!!!
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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from the timeline:
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October 29, 2009 - ongoing 911 based 'control' pattern assassination Pim Fortuyn - Theo van Gogh - Barack Obama placed under very early protection of the secret service. Peter R. de Vries and Geert wilders beware
I wrote on October 22, 2008:

"When Pim fortuyn was assassinated, it was a high profile event. He could have been the next Prime Minister of the Netherlands if he wasn't assassinated just prior to the elections in The Netherlands back in 2002.

I was not aware of any underlying patterns at that time. That changed when Theo van Gogh was killed 911 days later on November 2, 2004.

These two people had alot in common, representatives of 'ultimate freedom', Theo with his freedom of speech and Pim with his remarkable political point of view. However, both were also much 'involved' in ethic and even racial 'issues' , bringing the differences and problem between the native Dutch people and foreigners/muslims to the attention.

I started to monitor the Phi based spiral of which these 2 assassinations could be considered to be 'expressions', unaware of the deeper meaning in the beginning.

Seperate from this Phi based spiral I have been monitoring a timecoded pattern that came to be known as the 'Balkan karma Venus Based' pattern, originally linked to the Srebrenica Massacre back in July 1995.

Continued monitoring of these initially seperated patterns ingreased my understanding of the hidden underlying themes that were expressed on these patterns and it became clear , at least to me, that both these pattern were 'karmic' related to the Srebrenica massacre and all its implications.

The people in Srebrenica were protected by Dutch soldiers in an UN safe haven. We prommissed these people to protect them. We told these people to come to Srebrenica because it would be safe. The United Nations would make sure that these people would be safe.

When the Sebs started to attack the enclave, it was decided that the Dutch soldiers would not protect these people at all costs, in a sense when it became clear that it would take Dutch casualties, the Ducth soldiers surrended to Mladic.

The Dutch military stated that it became impossible to protect Srebrenica after air support was refused. Several request for air support in order to take out Serbian tanks were declined.

As a result, the man and boys in Srebrenica were seperated from their wives and daughters and were shot to death with a few in a row at the time, until more than 8000 muslim boys and men were slaughtered.

This all happened under the formal protection of the United Nations.

It was the worst crime against humanity and the biggest massacre in Europe since WW II and it was allowed to happen despite the fact that we free people as representatives of the UN should have done everything to protect these people.

We all have a responsibility in relations to this, although most will deny it.

I began to understand that this responsibilty was finding expression on these determined timeframes on this Phi based spiral in Dutch society, of which the asassinations of Pim and Theo were part of.

It must be clear that it was not The Netherlands that refused the air support, the patterns unveiled, at least to me, that the US government was in fact responsible.

During the predetermined timeframes on these patterns several events materialized that are in fact unveiling the hidden underlying truth about the responsibilities for the Srebrenica massacre.

Milosevic was taken out by Design, Tolimir arrested, The Dutch gouvernment fell and sued, Obama security issues and lots of more, logged 'realtime' in the 2 thread specifically dedicated to these 2 patterns.

You cannot understand this if you don't try to see the bigger picture of the events that took place during the predetermined dates of these patterns.

The next dates are given, I expect expressions that will make clear the we trully are responsible for what has happened in Srebrenica in July 1995."
quote:
As said numerous times before:

This 911 Golden Mean based timecoded spiral in Dutch society is in fact linked to 'Srebrenica Karma'

I have been identifying and monitoring it here, during the last couple of years:

911 based Phi spiral in Dutch society
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about87-hddesign.html
Balkan Karma Venus based
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about4-hddesign.html

First identified event on this timecoded spiral was the assassination of Pim Fortuyn and this HDDesign 'research' shows that this was in fact a karmic expression related to the Srebrenica massacre.

Venus based indeed:

Srebrenica July 11, 1995 - September 1, 2009 = timeframe of 5.167 days

or Venus at the same orbital position

5.167 / 224.68 ( Venus year in Earth days ) = 23

This development emerges, true or not, its hitting the timecoded pattern:

Pim Fortuyn was killed by a second shooter!

Actrice Ine Veen has written a book based on a scret report ( that's what she claims ) in which she stated that indeed Volkert van de Graaf did shoot 3 bullets at Pim Fortuyn ( 2 in his back, one in his neck), but that Pim Fortuyn was already killed by 2 bullets in his head fired by a second shooter from on top a nearby building.

The Dutch secret service AIVD would know about these 2 kinds of ammunition. The book is called "killed by the Crown".
[url=http://www.crimesite.nl/liquidaties/moord/pim-fortuyn-werd-door-tweede-schutter-vermoord-volkert-van-der-graaf.html
]http://www.crimesite.nl/liquidaties/moord/pim-fortuyn-werd-door-tweede-schutter-vermoord-volkert-van-der-graaf.html[/quote][/url]

I have written about the correlation between the assassination of Pim Fortuyn and the JSF striker fighter.
Prior to the elections in The Netherlands back in 2002, in became clear that Pim Fortuyn would probably win these elections so he could even become the next Prime Minister of The Netherlands.

During the weeks prior to the assassination Pim changed his mind about the JSF. First he supported the JSF but a few weeks prior to the election he said that Netherlands shouldn't buy the JSF. He became an opponent of the JSF.

If he had lived during the elections, he would have won and we wouldn't go on with the JSF.

Pim was assassinated just prior to the elections and his part won indeed.

His successor Mat Herben didn't became PM but he was involved forming the next gouvernment of the Netherlands. Mat Herrben's first political action was to give his approval to the JSF, exactly the opposite of how Pim would have wanted it.

Its amazing that this has happened while nobody seems to care less.

As this HDDesign 'research' has shown repeatedly, the JSF issue regularly shows up on the patterns related to Pim Fortuyn.

So today we are again in a timeframe related to the assassination of Pim Fortuyn and the JSF is getting momentum.....again!

'JSF mogelijk nog duurder'
JSF more expensive because the GB wants to ordr less JSF's
http://www.nu.nl/algemeen/2110629/jsf-mogelijk-nog-duurder.html
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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<============>[size=18]Communication[/size]<============>


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Deep Impact is an ongoing NASA space probe which was launched on January 12, 2005. It was designed to study the composition of the comet interior of 9P/Tempel ( Temple 1 ), by colliding a section of the spacecraft into the comet. On July 4, 2005, the impactor of the Deep Impact probe successfully collided with the comet's nucleus. The impact excavated debris from the interior of the nucleus, allowing photographs of the impact crater. The photographs showed the comet to be more dusty and less icy than had been expected. The impact generated a large and bright dust cloud, which unexpectedly obscured the view of the impact crater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_(space_mission)

During the last couple of years this Hyper Dimensional Design 'research' has provided numerous indications of Intelligent Design in our reality.
The elements of HDDesign are based on Hyper Dimensional Physics, HD Platonic Solids geometry, mathematically determined timecoded patterns and orbital positions of the elements of our solarsystem.
The subconscious mind seems to be able to 'tune in' on this hidden underlying Design of our reality and this hidden Design is first unveiled by 'coincidences' and synchronicities that occur.
The conscious human mind is able to rationally understand these intelligent correlations by applying the described elements of HDDesign, but unfortunately most people will dismiss the initial indication and ignore it. Although these people seem to accept that they exist in THIS dimensional realm, they do not want to accept that other dimensional realms even exist.

While the indications are overwhelming

What I have learned from this HDDesign 'research' is that we can get rid of our rigid 3-dimensional ( or 4, time ) perspective of reality, we only have to take these initial indications serious and listen to our intuition first.
While working with this HDdesign material, the 'coincidences' constantly show up, all the time. Not once or twice, or only in the beginning, these coincidences are showing up all the time and its my experience that they are becomming more profound when time proceeds.
As if the ability is increasing, for human consciousness to unlock the real nature of the reality we live in.

This HDDesign research implies that consciousness also resides in other dimensions and that our reality is intelligently connected to other dimensions and that the indications of this connection can be understood with the rational mind.
The solarsystem we live in is also 'reflecting' the hidden undelying Deisgn of our reality, what we are consciously experincing here in our reality, is also reflected by specific orbital positions of the planets in our solarsystem.
If this is understood, one could imagine that a Deep Impact on a comet, just like we did with Comet Temple 1 on July 4, 2005, seems not a good idea. What do we know what kind of effects such an Impact would have for other dimensional realms, for consciousness itself? at all levels? Do we know what comet really represents?

Another underlying theme that shows up regularly in this HDDesign material is the (mis)use of nuclear power. What do we know what kind of effects a nuclear detonation has on other dimensional realms or consciousness itself, at all levels?

<==========> <=========>

With these two biggest mistakes of mankind we have crossed a red line: the use of nuclear weapons ( Hirhoshima / Nagasaki ) and the Impact on comet Temple 1.

And because we've crossed this red line we have been 'warned'.

The 'warning' comes from 'outside' our limited 3D perspective of reality and has been materialized in the past in our limited 3D perspective of time. We have to get rid of our linear perspective of time, these 3D limitations on linear time are only valid in the way we are consciously experiencing our reality, but its a limited perspective.

So this 'warning' has happened in the past of our perspective of time , but it is 'caused' by these 2 big mistakes of mankind.



I talk about the Tunguska event on June 30, 1908
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

The connectedness is fundamental and Intelligently determined by the Golden Mean Phi.

Tunguska -- 1 --> decission to use nuclear weapons -- 1,618034-> Deep Impact.

Deep Impact on Comet Temple 1 showed unexpected results and it seems to me that NASA has come to the conclusion that this Impact on comet temple I wasn't a good idea indeed.

There's evidence to support this, a while after the Deep Impact mission NASA started to 'Intelligently Communicate' with their initiated events in space, as if NASA wanted to say "sorry, we made a mistake, we didn't knew but we do understand now".
The 'communication' seems to be directed at other levels of consciousness, so it seems to me for reasons I will explain here.

We go back to May 29, 2008.

The Deep Impact mission was extended with the Epoxi Space mission and on May 29, 2008:

NASA's Deep Impact Films Earth as an Alien World
http://www.nasa.gov/topic(...)s/epoxi_transit.html

"NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft has created a video of the moon transiting (passing in front of) Earth as seen from the spacecraft's point of view 31 million miles away. Scientists are using the video to develop techniques to study alien worlds."



With this Earth-Moon transit captured by Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft on May 29, 2008, NASA is deliberately marking a Pi expression in space:

I wrote on January 2 this year:

"This Epoxi ( Deep Impact extended mission) - Earth - moon Transit as captured from Epoxi is awsom, and the awakeningstimeframe + Pi are confirming the hidden underlying Intelligent Design:

3 awakeningstimeframes = ascension timeframe, or 3333 Earth days
3333 / Pi = 1060 days on Earth ( in full days)

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

The Deep Impact - Moon Earth transit as seen on the picture above happened on May 29, 2008

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 = 1060 days on Earth!

Wake Up!

So this Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

The awakenings timeframe of 1111 days was the first identified element of hidden Intelligent Design that became a key element of these HDDesign theories, followed by the 911 based control timeframe and the ascension timeframe of 3333 days, the latter emphasized in the HDDesign theories as more profound."

and followed by this:

"this is so profound....when intuition speaks:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

next scheduled Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft flyby of comet Hartley 2: October 11, 2010.

As we have seen in previous posts and on the timeline, this May 29, 2008 timeframe of the Transit had a big emphasis on Pi, unveiling the correlations between Pi, ascension timframe, orbital positions, Deep Impact and the end of the Mayan Calendar

Wouldn't it be an unmistaken confirmation to find Pi expressed by these three events in space: Deep Impact on Temple I, the Epoxi - moon - Earth transit and the comet Hartley 2 flyby?

Wouldn't you think that if a Pi connection is there, it would be an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Intelligent Design?

fasten year seatbelt: Pi IS expressed by these Deep Impact events:

Timeframe Deep Impact on comet Temple I - comet Hartley flyby / Pi

is the same as:

Pi * difference between:

Deep Impact on Temple I - Epoxi / Moon / Eart Transit

and

Epoxii / Moom / Earth Transit - comet Hartly flyby

or in numbers:

July 4, 2005 ( Deep Impact Temple I) - October 11, 2010 ( comet hartley flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi) = 1925 days rounded

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 Epoxi - Moon transit = 1060 days rounded

May 29, 2008 Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit - October 11, 2010 comet Hartly flyby = 865 days rounded

The difference between 1060 and 865 is 195 days

1925 / Pi = 195 * Pi

or

1925 / Pi / Pi is the difference between the timeframes from the Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit and the 2 Deep Ipact spacecraft events!!

This is so beautiful and fundamental."

This is ONLY meant as a mean to communicate as it became clear that there will never be an encounter with comet Hartley on October 11, 2010.

This was a deliberate communication expressing Pi, initiated by NASA after the Impact on comet Temple 1. NASA is 'communicating' that they understand they shouldn't have impacted comet Temple I.
With this doing so, NASA understands that these kind of 'intelligent' communcations are somehow possible.

The 'confirmation' materialized on the ground that very same timeframe:

The 2008 Barbury Castle Pattern is Pi to 3.14159265358



“The fact that the Pi decimal point is included (in the 2008 Barbury Castle
barley pattern) and there is rounding up to 10 decimal places is to me a little mind boggling!”
– Michael Reed, Astrophysicist

At this stage NASA has only intelligently expressed that it is understood that they made a mistake.

But the communication goes on

October 9, 2009 - Centaur impact on Moon

On June 18, 2009, NASA launched this new "double mission" -- a SUV-sized spacecraft called "Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter" (LRO), designed to map the entire lunar surface in unprecedented detail over the next five years (and, several times); and, a "piggy-back" spacecraft, called the "Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite" (LCROSS), designed to direct the spent upper stage of the Atlas 5 LRO launch vehicle (the "Centaur" second stage) into a carefully targeted impact with the lunar surface on October 9, 2009.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Reconnaissance_Orbiter

This LCROSS mission with the moon impact was added to the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) mission after Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and agian this LCROSS missions is more a mean of 'communication' rather than a search for waterice on the moon, as we will see.

After Deep Impact, these 2 events in space followed, expressing the Golden Mean Phi in the same way as the Tunguska 'warning':

3 manmade impacts in space: connected by Golden Mean Phi:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I --- at Phi point U.S. satellite shootdown --- lunar impact

As soon as I understood this connection, the deliberately planned satellite shoot down and Moon Impact on a predetermined timeframe as a mean for 'communication', I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

At Phi point between Tunguska and the Moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Apollo 14 mission to the moon is on its way!

With an actual Impact on the moon too!!!!!!

I wrote:

"So the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission around February 2, 1971 and the October 9, 2009 double impact on the moon are connected with the Tunguska event, with the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission at Phi point.

The Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact is July 21, 1945, marking one of the biggest mistakes of mankind: the use of nuclear weapons. Its Earth's orbital position again that is marking the 'communication' that is taking place.

unbeleivable: there has been an actual impact too!!!!!

LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site

Oct 09, 2009
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon. The energy of the impact created small tremors that were measured by the seismometer placed on the Moon by Apollo 12 astronauts in 1969.
http://www.moondaily.com/(...)Impact_Site_999.html

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean

unbelievable

fundamental truth

The message of this 'communication' should be clear

Tunguska is a warning

Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space

we must not mess with nuclear power

With the predetermined satellite shootdown en Moon Impact on October 9 NASA is 'communicating'.
And again, just like the Pi cropcircle 'confirming' NASA's Pi expression with Deep Impact/Epoxi space missions ( May 29, 2008) , this NASA 'communication' that the Tunguska 'warning' has been understood, is confirmed during the same timeframe of the lunar Impact around October 9, 2009:

Asteroid explosion over Indonesia raises fears about Earth's defences

An asteroid that exploded in the Earth’s atmosphere with the energy of three Hiroshima bombs this month has reignited fears about our planet’s defences against space impacts.

On 8 October, the rock crashed into the atmosphere above South Sulawesi, Indonesia. The blast was heard by monitoring stations 10,000 miles away, according to a report by scientists at the University of Western Ontario.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space...s-defences.html

For more details I refer to the timeline Q4 2009 here:
Q4 2009 Timeline, October, November and December 2009
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about386-hddesign.html
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"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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Nou ben ik een near native speaker als het om Engels gaat, maar hier kan ik echt geen kaas van maken.
Kan iemand dit nader verklaren/toelichten?
quote:
The 'warning' comes from 'outside' our limited 3D perspective of reality and has been materialized in the past in our limited 3D perspective of time. We have to get rid of our linear perspective of time, these 3D limitations on linear time are only valid in the way we are consciously experiencing our reality, but its a limited perspective.
The Rated-R Era ... A Decade of Decadence
Mr. Prolapse 2009
  maandag 9 november 2009 @ 17:04:45 #113
1872 Jumparound
bedankt voor de vis
pi_74546017
quote:
Op vrijdag 6 november 2009 14:12 schreef Dragorius het volgende:
Nou ben ik een near native speaker als het om Engels gaat, maar hier kan ik echt geen kaas van maken.
Kan iemand dit nader verklaren/toelichten?
[..]
Dat is toch niet zo moelijk? Tijd is 3d, (in tegenstelling tot wat het gros van de mensheid denkt (nl 1d) (ik denk dat dutch denkt dat tijd ook diepte heeft, mogelijk zodat er meerdere tijdstromen tegelijkertijd naast elkaar bewegen) maar tijd is niet 3d, tijd is 4d, dus niet alleen met diepte, hoogte en lengte, maar ook een 4de demensie, nl.... tijd!
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
pi_74556312
Dutch, wat is 'tijd' voor jou? Geloof je dat 'tijd' bestaat?
Have fun...
pi_74556560
quote:
Op vrijdag 6 november 2009 13:23 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
<============>[size=18]Communication[/size]<============>


<============>[ afbeelding ]<============>


Deep Impact is an ongoing NASA space probe which was launched on January 12, 2005. It was designed to study the composition of the comet interior of 9P/Tempel ( Temple 1 ), by colliding a section of the spacecraft into the comet. On July 4, 2005, the impactor of the Deep Impact probe successfully collided with the comet's nucleus. The impact excavated debris from the interior of the nucleus, allowing photographs of the impact crater. The photographs showed the comet to be more dusty and less icy than had been expected. The impact generated a large and bright dust cloud, which unexpectedly obscured the view of the impact crater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_(space_mission)

During the last couple of years this Hyper Dimensional Design 'research' has provided numerous indications of Intelligent Design in our reality.
The elements of HDDesign are based on Hyper Dimensional Physics, HD Platonic Solids geometry, mathematically determined timecoded patterns and orbital positions of the elements of our solarsystem.
The subconscious mind seems to be able to 'tune in' on this hidden underlying Design of our reality and this hidden Design is first unveiled by 'coincidences' and synchronicities that occur.
The conscious human mind is able to rationally understand these intelligent correlations by applying the described elements of HDDesign, but unfortunately most people will dismiss the initial indication and ignore it. Although these people seem to accept that they exist in THIS dimensional realm, they do not want to accept that other dimensional realms even exist.

While the indications are overwhelming

What I have learned from this HDDesign 'research' is that we can get rid of our rigid 3-dimensional ( or 4, time ) perspective of reality, we only have to take these initial indications serious and listen to our intuition first.
While working with this HDdesign material, the 'coincidences' constantly show up, all the time. Not once or twice, or only in the beginning, these coincidences are showing up all the time and its my experience that they are becomming more profound when time proceeds.
As if the ability is increasing, for human consciousness to unlock the real nature of the reality we live in.

This HDDesign research implies that consciousness also resides in other dimensions and that our reality is intelligently connected to other dimensions and that the indications of this connection can be understood with the rational mind.
The solarsystem we live in is also 'reflecting' the hidden undelying Deisgn of our reality, what we are consciously experincing here in our reality, is also reflected by specific orbital positions of the planets in our solarsystem.
If this is understood, one could imagine that a Deep Impact on a comet, just like we did with Comet Temple 1 on July 4, 2005, seems not a good idea. What do we know what kind of effects such an Impact would have for other dimensional realms, for consciousness itself? at all levels? Do we know what comet really represents?

Another underlying theme that shows up regularly in this HDDesign material is the (mis)use of nuclear power. What do we know what kind of effects a nuclear detonation has on other dimensional realms or consciousness itself, at all levels?
*knip*
Eindelijk een keer een uitleg waar ik wat aan heb . Nu begrijp ik een stuk beter wat je bedoelt
Have fun...
  dinsdag 10 november 2009 @ 15:41:58 #116
1872 Jumparound
bedankt voor de vis
pi_74575414
Dutch, weet je zeker dat 6/11 geen triggerdate was?
lijkt mij toch dat DIT toch wel een waarschuwing van formaat is....
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
pi_74586396
Was er niet ook iets neergekomen in Indonesië de laatste dagen??
Have fun...
  dinsdag 10 november 2009 @ 22:31:31 #118
34573 Neutrino
Dead cat bounce
pi_74588474
Wanneer is de echo van het uitsterven van de Dinosauriërs te verwachten. En wat te denken van de echo van het Tungaska incident.

De vraag is echter of oorzaak en gevolg überhaupt wel de juiste volgorde hebben. Soms kan er immers een gevolg zijn waarna de oorzaak zich zal manifesteren.
Sell in may and go away. Forget it, we are here to stay.
pi_74597400
quote:
Op dinsdag 10 november 2009 21:39 schreef Handschoen het volgende:
Was er niet ook iets neergekomen in Indonesië de laatste dagen??
Ja dat was op 8 october ( zie mijn vorige post ) en recentelijk was er weer een incident.
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_74598130
quote:
Op dinsdag 10 november 2009 15:41 schreef Jumparound het volgende:
Dutch, weet je zeker dat 6/11 geen triggerdate was?
lijkt mij toch dat DIT toch wel een waarschuwing van formaat is....
Waar ik alert op ben is 'communicatie' in deze post-maan impact periode in relatie tot Tunguska.

Er is een theorie dat de Tunguska impact was in feite een inslag was van een fragment van komeet Encke .

Ik ben even snel wat gedachten aan het loggen hier want ik heb het druk op het werk, dus verontschuldiging als de verbanden niet duidelijk zijn, maar de 'communicatie' rond tunguska lijkt sterk geassocieerd met Enki symboliek ( Sumerie/ oude kennis) Tunguska IS Enki symboliek en deze 'near miss' komt tot ons bewustzijn op 10 November. Ik ben dan alert op Enki symboliek rond dit soort gebeurtenissen en nu blijkt dat de keeper van het Duitse nationale team gisteren zelfmoord heeft gepleegd: Robert Enke.
quote:
Germany and Hannover 96 goalkeeper Robert Enke has died after being hit by a train in an apparent suicide on Tuesday, police have confirmed.
Jaren terug heeft ooit een lezer eens gezegd over dit HDDesign materiaal: "What Dutch is doing, is like Enki talking to a wall".

Voor mij persoonlijk lijken deze gebeurtenissen in combinatie met het HDDesign materiaal van deze periode aan te geven dat het negeren van de 'waarschuwingen' uiteindelijk neer komt op anihilatie, wij zijn in staat om onszelf te vernietigen, dat is in potentie aanwezig.
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  woensdag 11 november 2009 @ 12:17:18 #121
1872 Jumparound
bedankt voor de vis
pi_74600510
Je weet dat ik "nogal" sceptisch ben... maar dit geeft me wel rillingen... (tot op zekere hoogte dan he ;-) )
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
pi_74601548
Ik was in het begin ook erg sceptisch, maar nu ik meer begrijp van hoe dutch het doet en ik nu zijn posts kan lezen zodat ik ook begrijp wat hij zegt zijn er wel een hoop 'toevalligheden' .

Dutch, hoe onderscheid je communicatie van niet-communicatie?
Have fun...
pi_74617448
Onbekende planetoïde scheerde langs de aarde
Uitgegeven: 10 november 2009 09:45
Laatst gewijzigd: 10 november 2009 09:44

AMSTERDAM - Vrijdag 6 november is onverwachts een kleine planetoïde langs de aarde gescheerd. Het naar schatting slechts zeven meter grote brok ruimtesteen, dat de aanduiding 2009 VA heeft gekregen, miste het aardoppervlak op ongeveer 14.000 kilometer.

Daarmee was het, voor zover bekend, de op twee na dichtste nadering van een planetoïde die niet op aarde is neergestort. Alleen in 2004 en 2008 vonden niptere missers plaats.

Gemiddeld komen er ongeveer twee van zulke kleine planetoïden dicht langs de aarde, en eens in de vijf jaar ploffen de restanten van zo'n object op het aardoppervlak.

http://www.nu.nl/wetensch(...)rde-langs-aarde.html

10 november
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quote:
Op maandag 9 november 2009 22:02 schreef Handschoen het volgende:
Dutch, wat is 'tijd' voor jou? Geloof je dat 'tijd' bestaat?
Ons normale begrip van tijd is gekoppeld aan de 3 dimensies ( of 4 = tijd) waarin we ons bewustzijn ervaren. Buiten deze dimensies is het begrip tijd irrelevant en ons lineaire tijdsbegrip beperkt ons vermogen om causaliteit te begrijpen. Wij zijn waarschijnlijk niet in staat om 'onze tijd' te manipuleren ( daarom laat er altijd wel een vogeltje een stukje brood in de LHC vallen ) maar ik denk dat het van buitenaf wel mogelijk is, vanuit andere dimensies. ( even los van wat dat allemaal impliceert.)

De Tungaska gebeurtenis is zo'n voorbeeld
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_74618644
quote:
Dutch, hoe onderscheid je communicatie van niet-communicatie?
Als het onderliggende Intelligente ontwerp in tegenspraak is met ons lineaire tijdsbegrip beschouw ik dit als inkomende communicatie, voornamelijk uitgedrukt door gebeurtenissen in ons zonnestelsel en de rest van het universum in interactie met de aarde. Ook 'out of the blue' gebeurtenissen en synchroniteiten kunnen een vorm van communicatie zijn, vooral als deze gebeurtenissen tot 'onthulling' leiden, zoals bv 9/11.
Het meeste wat in onze realiteit gebeurd is echter gewone 'karmische' expressie van ons ( collectieve) bewustzijn.
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_74657712
As you can verify with the next two reposts, I expected related info to crime reporter Peter R. de Vries and criminal / Heineken kidnapper Cor van Hout for the current timeframe and around October 29.

first the 2 reposts:

1:
quote:
reposted on other forums with hddesign threads:

Psychic Peter van der Hurk expects assaults on Peter R. de Vries and Geert Wilders, as published in a Dutch newspaper the other day:

zo 28 dec 2008, 19:23 'In 2009 aanslag op Peter R. de Vries!'
http://www.telegraaf.nl/p(...)ries____.html?p=27,2

I posted after I read this:

[quote]had to think of 911 and Fortuyn - Van Gogh....

Assassination of Fortuyn +911 days = assassination of Van Gogh

+ 911 days gives May 2, 2007

from the timeline first half 2007:

May 2, 2007 - Golden Mean Phi based 'Srebrenica karma'. Washington.link.
3 Mars years in Earth days since 9/11, 3 Mars years in earth days prior to the end of the Mayan Calender
from Goro: Mayan Contact Midpoint, see update below.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali threathened in the US, heavy security/protection needed
Press review: 'Fall of the sun king'
http://www.cnn.com/2007/BUSINESS/05/02/browne.press/index.html
Obama placed under Secret Service protection
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)rotection/index.html
Melkert, Volkert, Wolfowitz, analysis will follow
note that this 'Srebrenica' karma was linked to the monitored 911 based Phi spiral in 'Dutch society', which expired in November 2008.

the 911 based 'control' pattern is still ongoing, coinciding with the spiral on May 2, 2007 and giving a new key date around October 29, 2009

also note that Geert Wilders was also linked to this spiral

I expected a 'confirmation' in relation to Peter R. de Vries and Cor van Hout. I have posted related issues about this back in 2005 already and I thought this stuf wasn't online anymore. Just recently I found it again on a forum and I reposted it on HDDesign forum.

the 'confirmation':
quote:
around October 29, 2009 Venus will be at the same orbital position again as during the assassination of Cor van Hout!

11 Venus Years in Earth days

assassination of Cor van Hout: January 24, 2003
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cor_van_Hout

11 * 224.68 = 2.471 days later:

October 30, 2009
related thread, with info from 2005, triggerdates and backgrounds:
Natalee Holloway - Peter R. de Vries
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about327-hddesign.html

Today I have posted this:

Peter R. de Vries has been molested today ( saturday 24 januari 2009) by ( ex) criminal Steve Brown:

Peter R. de Vries aangevallen in auto

AMSTERDAM - Tv-programmamaker Peter R. de Vries is zaterdag gewond geraakt toen hij in zijn auto werd aangevallen door Steve Brown, een voormalig drugshandelaar met wie hij al jaren overhoop ligt. De Vries heeft dat zaterdag laten weten.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)in_auto__.html?p=1,1

This was the second time Steve Brown and Peter de Vries had a fight.
On June 21, 2007 Brown kicked Peter at the melkweg in Amsterdam, there's a video available online

June 21 +/- 1 day has been mentioned here in this thread:
quote:
On or around 22 June 2005 it is 911 days ago since the assassination attack on XXXXX. With this information in your mind it can be that if indeed something would happen the impact would be low because of the fact that you are informed and aware of the underlying patterns and symbolism"
Earth at same orbital position

also:

Mercury 'The Messenger' is at the same orbital position on January 24, 2009 ( second attack) as during the 911 based starttriggerdate of June 21, 2007, the day of the first attack.

June 21, 2007

here:



OMG!

this whole thread (at HDDesign forum) is initially based on the assassination of Heineken kidnapper Cor van Hout and the correlations with Peter R de Vries

Peter was assaulted by Steve Brown last Saturday on January 24, 2009


COR VAN HOUT WAS ASSASSINATED ON JANUARY 24, 2003 !!!!!!
quote:
it can be that if indeed something would happen the impact would be low because of the fact that you are informed and aware of the underlying patterns and symbolism
That's the difference between an assassination or a kick on your ass...

Cor van Hout was assassinated on January 24, 2003 in Amstelveen after a visit to a chinese restaurant. A friend of him who stood next to him was shot too and died a few days later. Prior to his death there have been 2 other assassination attempts:

On March 27, 1996 Cor was shot in his car. When he arrived at his house, his son wanted to listen to a song on the radio so they didn't get out of the car. The killer hestitated but decided to shoot Cor while he was still in the car. Cor was hit several times but he survived.

The second attempt was on December 21, 2000. Somebody tried to shoot Cor and his body guard with a longdistance riffle, but he missed.

During the second attempt Mercury 'The Messenger' was at the same orbital position as during the awakenings starttriggerdate of the first attempt, while Mercury 'The Messenger' was during the final assassination at the same orbital position as during the 911 based control endtriggerdate of the first attempt

So all 3 events are connected by Mercury based on the HDdesign triggerdate system.[/quote]

Its around october 29:

Zestien jaar geëist voor liquidatie kroegbaas AMSTERDAM - Advocaat-generaal Cynthia de Jong heeft maandag voor het gerechtshof in Amsterdam zestien jaar cel geëist tegen de 28-jarige Dwight S. en de 23-jarige Remy H., wegens de liquidatie van de Amsterdamse kroegbaas Thomas van der Bijl. Deze werd op 20 april 2006 in zijn café in Amsterdam-West doodgeschoten.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)egbaas__.html?p=19,2

The timing implies that those behind the assaassination of van der Bijl, are the same people who are responsible for the killing of Cor van Hout!!!!!

and repost 2:
quote:
« on: May 19, 2005, 02:07:25 PM »

I have chosen to post this on Cloud Cover because I don't feel at ease with this information completely out in the open.

The following has been on my mind for a while and I didn't know what to do with it ( besides contacting the related person ).

I think I have to 'put' this in some peoples mind in order to avoid undesired things to happen or to downgrade the effects if the anticipated event would take place.

During my research on underlying patterns I have found out something very disturbing.

I expect a 911 related assault could take place in The Netherlands on July 25, 2005. On that day a Dutch celebrety is in danger and he could be killed. It's related to the high impact killings of Pim Fortuyn ( our would have been prime minister) and Theo van Gogh. It's 911 related on the patterns.

My wife actually showed me the way to the pattern when she said something out of he blue while looking at a Pope JP II's death related program early April. On that moment 911 was 'in the air' so to speak as the exit of JP I and JP II are 911 related as I posted elsewhere.
Sometimes my wife 'receives' precognitive info or dreams. The females in her family line are all 'sensitives'.

A few months ealier she already mentioned the importance of the date July 25, 2005 to me but she didn't knew why and I couldn't put my finger on it. While looking at the Pope she clearly received the person's name in question and he really is in danger.

I decided to determine triggerdates in the persons' life ( as he's a celebrety, there's enough info about him online). There has been an important high impact killing in the past and he is significant related to that victim. The 911 related pattern to that killing showed the date July 25, 2005! Symbolically it would be a top level 'Good against Evil' theme in our society.

My wife also warned me to be very carefull with this information because she sensed danger for me too if I wouldn't be cautious. It's the first time ever she said something like that to me.

It's a very famous person in The Netherlands and I decided to contact him. I explained how I came to my conclusions and he decided NOT to disregard my warnings. He will be very cautious on the dates I mentioned ( besides July 25, 2005 there are more dates on the patterns but I have reason to believe July 25 is the day).

I really felt the need to do something with the information and that's why I contacted the person. The man probably gets hundreds of emails a week from lunatics like me, but he will keep it in mind.

Keep this info in mind around July 25, 2005.

If someone feels the need to know the persons name and info about the underlying pattern, you can pm me.
Around November 14, 2009 Venus is at same orbital position again and this timeframe is already mentioned on the timeline Q4 2009:

November 15, 2009 - Hyper Dimensional Cube at macrolevel orientation
Earth's orbital position during end of 911 based timecoded Phi spiral Fortuyn - van Gogh in The Netherlands, 'Srebrenica karma' / de Vries
===============

end of the 2 reposts.

So we talk about the timeframe around November 14, 2009

Yesterday November 12, 2009 it was announced that a suspect was arrested for the assassination attempt on Cor van Hout on March 27, 1996!!!!!!!!!!! It was initially announced by Peter R. de Vries himself and confirmed by the authorities ( article in Dutch ):

do 12 nov 2009

ROTTERDAM - De Nationale Recherche heeft op 12 oktober een verdachte aangehouden van de mislukte liquidatiepoging in maart 1996 op Heinekenontvoerder Cor van Hout. Dat heeft een woordvoerder van het landelijk parket van het Openbaar Ministerie (OM) donderdag gezegd naar aanleiding van berichtgeving van Peter R. de Vries.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)n_Hout__.html?p=26,2

This development in relation the assassination ( attempt ) on Cor van Hout during this timeframe may be coming out of the blue for everyone, but it is confirmative to the pre-determined expectations for this timeframe as posted in the HDDesign material!!

but there's another confirmation, today November 13 2009:

The Heineken kidnappers earned hundreds of thousands on royalties of the book Peter R. de Vries has written about the Heineken kidnap!!!

Its a kind of 'assassination' of Peter de Vries' reputation as independant crimereporter!!!!


vr 13 nov 2009

Peter R. de Vries sloot contract voor 75 procentMisdaadboek loont door John van den Heuvel en Bert Huisjes
AMSTERDAM - De ontvoerders van Freddy Heineken hebben jarenlang het overgrote deel van de royalty's ontvangen voor een bestseller over hun misdrijf.
Het gaat naar schatting om tonnen. Het boek 'De ontvoering van Alfred Heineken' is het best verkochte misdaadboek van de afgelopen decennia. Er zijn bijna 300.000 exemplaren van verkocht.

De verdeling van royalty's blijkt uit een contract dat misdaadjournalist Peter R. de Vries met ontvoerder Cor van Hout sloot toen die samen met Willem Holleeder probeerde te ontkomen aan vervolging. Hij volgde als verslaggever voor De Telegraaf de ontvoerders op hun vlucht voor justitie, maar vertrok bij de krant na het verschijnen van het boek. Hij raakte destijds bevriend met ontvoerder Cor van Hout.

Het contract was al die jaren in bezit van de in 2006 geliquideerde kroegbaas Thomas van der Bijl. Zijn weduwe Carolien Rijke heeft het nu in de openbaarheid gebracht. Zij heeft een geschil met De Vries over de royalty's.

Toestemming

Zij vertelt morgen in De Telegraaf exclusief hoe zij de periode voor en na de liquidatie van haar man heeft meegemaakt. De Vries erkent het bestaan van het contract maar wijst elke claim van haar af.

De Vries kreeg toestemming een boek te schrijven over de ontvoering, mits Van Hout 75 procent van de opbrengsten zou ontvangen. Dat gold ook voor rechten op films, video's en interviews. Dat Van der Bijl deze gelden ontving was een constructie om te voorkomen dat Heineken beslag kon leggen op het boek of de opbrengst.

Volgens De Vries heeft Van der Bijl in 2003 vrijwillig de rechten overgedragen aan de weduwe van de geliquideerde Cor van Hout, Sonja Holleeder, zus van Willem Holleeder. De weduwe van Van der Bijl bestrijdt dat. Zij stelt dat haar partner de rechten in 2001 aan haar verkocht.

De Vries noemt dit opmerkelijk en onwaar: "Uit alles blijkt dat de rechten door Van der Bijl geheel vrijwillig en correct zijn overgedragen."
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)gelukt___.html?p=1,1

Note that Peter R. de Vries has a dispute about these royalties with the widow of the assassinated Thomas vd Bijl!!!!!!!

I wrote above:
quote:
The timing implies that those behind the assaassination of van der Bijl, are the same people who are responsible for the killing of Cor van Hout!!!!!
When I posted my expectations back in January 2009 for these timeframes in October and November I didn't knew ofcourse WHAT would happen, I only identified the underlying themes for these timeframes.

The actual events during these timeframes are a confirmation of these pre determined underlying themes!!!

You can think about HDDesign what you want, but if you fail to see that these event are more than just coincidences, than you have to reconsider it again.

Because it should be obvious.

Again HDDesign shows the unmistaken indications of hidden underlying Design.

THESE ARE NO 'COINCIDENCES' !!!!!!!!!!
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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This is at least the 7th time in a row that this specific orbital position of Venus around November 18, 2009 is showing a 'Srebrenica karma' event, as expected and posted prior to the determined dates on the timelines.

updated on the timeline: the expected and predicted 'Srebrenica karma' expression for November 18, 2009:

New Srebrenica mass grave discovered
The grave is located near the hamlet of Vidikovac, in Srebrenica's surroundings.


November 18, 2009

Remains believed to be those of victims of the Srebrenica massacre were found on Wednesday in a new mass grave located near the eastern Bosnian town, an official quoted by the FENA news agency said.

The grave, measuring 25 by three metres (82 by 10 feet), is "secondary", meaning that the victims' remains were moved there from other sites in a bid to cover up the crime, local prosecutor Fatima Hadzibeganovic said.

Due to the grave's size it is expected to hold a large number of victims, she said, without providing further details.

The grave is located near the hamlet of Vidikovac, in Srebrenica's surroundings.

Bosnian Serb forces killed some 8,000 Muslim men and boys after they overran the then UN-protected enclave on July 11, 1995, perpetrating the worst atrocity in Europe since World War II.

The massacre has been ruled as genocide by the International Court of Justice (ICJ) and the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY), both based in The Hague.

The remains of thousands of Srebrenica massacre victims have been exhumed over the past years from about 70 mass graves around the ill-fated town, with more than 5,600 people identified by DNA analysis.

The trial before the ICTY of the massacre's alleged mastermind, Bosnian Serb wartime leader Radovan Karadzic, has been adjourned until March next year.

Karadzic was arrested in Belgrade in July 2008 after 13 years on the run.

His military commander Ratko Mladic, also indicted by the ICTY in connection with Srebrenica, remains on the run and is believed to be hiding in Serbia.
http://www.javno.com/en-w(...)ve-discovered_282263

read related info on the timeline of Q4 2009 here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about386-hddesign.html
if you're not registered you can login with 'reader' password 'reader'
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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I have put it on the timeline for Q4 on August 14, 2009:
quote:
Posted: 14 Aug 2009 02:52 pm Post subject:

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new date added:

November 18, 2009 - 'Srebrenica karma', security issue obama

read related info here in this post:
[url=http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=7879&mforum=hddesign#7879
]http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=7879&mforum=hddesign#7879[/quote][/url]


We have seen this new mass grave discovered as 'Srebrenica karma'expression and here is the expected and predicted 'security issue' for Obama:

Judge frees ex-airport guard accused of Obama threats
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/19/obama.threat/index.html
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  maandag 7 december 2009 @ 11:56:11 #129
1872 Jumparound
bedankt voor de vis
pi_75365506
oh-oh, is Dutch in een hyerdemensie kwijt geraakt?
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
pi_75366665
Misschien zijn er geen observaties op dit moment die corresponderen met een eerdere timeline die bijzonder genoeg zijn om te vermelden...

ben wel weer benieuwd naar een update
Have fun...
  dinsdag 8 december 2009 @ 11:40:44 #131
132191 -jos-
Money=Power
pi_75403243
Nou vertel wanneer heb je dit voorspelt:

http://www.nu.nl/buitenla(...)anslagen-bagdad.html
WEB / [HaxBall #64] Jos is God
Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics.
pi_75405809
Tis geen Nostradamus dacht ik toch?
Ware Wijsheid Liefdevolle Vrede
Peaceful Warrior "What are you?" "This Moment"
pi_75507749
quote:
Op dinsdag 8 december 2009 11:40 schreef -jos- het volgende:
Nou vertel wanneer heb je dit voorspelt:

http://www.nu.nl/buitenla(...)anslagen-bagdad.html
We zitten momenteel nog in de periode van de start van het laatste 1111 dagen 'awakenings timeframe', waarvan de piek rond 8 december ligt: 8 december 2009 - 23 december 2012 = 1111 dagen.

Ik ben nog aan het monitoren en post pas een update als dit tijdsframe voorbij is.

Wel interessant dat je deze aanslag als voorbeeld geeft, ik zie dat altijd als een synchroniteit die wellicht bevestiging geeft van de onderliggende thema's.

In dit geval is 8 december 2009 starttrigger van het awakenings tinmeframe met 23 december 2012 als eindtrigger.

I dacht: 8 december 2009 is op zijn beurd ook eindtrigger met een 1111 dagen awakenings tijdsframe terug in de tijd: met 23 november 2006 als starttrigger.

23 november 2006 - 8 december 2009 = 1111

op die dag 23 november 2006:

A series of car bombs and mortar attacks in Sadr City, Baghdad, kill at least 215 people and injure 257 other people

23 November 2006 Sadr City bombings

The 2006 Sadr City bombings were a series of car bombs and mortar attacks in Iraq that began on 23 November at 15:10 Baghdad time (12:10 Greenwich Mean Time) and ended at 15:55 (12:55 GMT). Six car bombs and two mortar rounds were used in the attack on the Shi'ite Muslim slum in Sadr City.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_November_2006_Sadr_City_bombings

Niet dat aanslagen in Iraq het hoofdthema is, ik zie het meer als additionele bevestiging.

We zitten momenteel in het tijdvak vlak na het Phi punt tussen de sumatra quake/tsunami en het einde van de long count van de Mayan Calender. Er zijn 2 van die Phi punten,'naar binnen' en 'naar buiten' . Deze huidige periode is na het Phi punt 'naar binnen' en laat volgens mij een echo zien van de periode vlak na het Phi punt 'naar binnen', wat plaats vond in januari 2008.

Net als toen, zitten we nu denk ik aan het begin van een economische 'tsunami'.

Ook het hele klimaat gebeuren deze week moet als een wake up call gezien worden ( 1111 ) als starttrigger in relatie tot het eind van de Mayan Calender

updates volgen wellicht volgende week, eerst monitoren. Het 'ruwe' materiaal is altijd 'live' beschikbaar op de tijdslijnen op het HDDesign forum
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  vrijdag 11 december 2009 @ 09:25:05 #134
75447 sir_Tachyon
46 and 2 Just Ahead of Me
pi_75507893
Tenzij dit dagelijkse korst is in Bagdad, sta ik achter Dutch. Het is waar dat daar wel veel gebeurt in dat land maar voor mij is het meer een patroon. Keep em coming Dutch
"The boy blesses whispers into words,
in the painted valleys they await rain"
pi_75514274
het is ook niet het hoofdthema voor dit tijdsframe, ik zie het als een aanvullende bevestiging die dmv een synchroniteit plaats vind. Iemand plaats een opmerking over een zware aanslag in Irak en als ik hetzelfde onderliggende design toepas als waar ik op dat moment mee bezig ben voor dezelfde datum, dan volgt er gelijk 'bevestiging' met een vergelijkbare zware aanslag in Irak. Het is bevestiging van de onderliggende patronen dmv synchroniteiten.


een update:

Waves of Change

So around December 5, 2009 is Phi point between the December 26, 2004 Sumatra Quake / Tsunami and the end of the Mayan Long Count Calender.

Venus is at the same orbital position during the Sumatra quake / tsunami and the end of the Mayan long count:

December 26, 2004 - December 23, 2012 = 2.920 days or

13 Venus Years in Earth days: 13 * 224.68 = 2.920 days

which is also the timeframe between the 2 Venus Transits of our times:

June 8, 2004 - June 6, 2012 = 2.920 days or 13 Venus Years in Earth days or 8 Earth years.

Around December 8, 2009 is starttriggerdate of the last 1111 days awakenings timeframe with the end of the Mayan calendar:

December 8, 2009 - December 23, 2012 = 1111 days

I am currently monitoring this timeframe around December 8, 2009, which I think will show and echo of the timeframe just after the other Phi point between the Sumatra quake / tsunami and the end of the Mayan long count around January 16, 2008. This is realted to a financial or economic 'tsunami' and the climate issues as wake up call in elation to the end of the Mayan long count. More on this after the timeframe.

There's something else I want to talk about

we have seen these orbital positions of Venus marking the hidden underlying Design.

Could there be a Venus connection with December 8 too?

With 1111, Phi and Venus, 3 of the most profound elements of HDDesign, I thought that the Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron would also show the connectedness, and it does:

December 8, 2009 creates a Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron with the last Venus Transit of our times on June 6, 2012:

December 8, 2009 - June 6, 2012 = 911 days!

Next in line of thought is to consider December 8, 2009 to be the eventsday in the middle of the 2 times 911 'controll' timeframe as applied in this HDDesign material

June 11, 2007 ---- 911 days----December 8, 2009 ----- 911 days ---Venus Transit June 6, 2012

June 11, 2007 was already on the timeline of the first half 2007, I wrote:
quote:
b]June 10, 2007[/b] - EXACTLY 20 Mercury Years in Earth days after the 911 based starttrigger of the Hariri killing!
UN to vote on Hariri murder court
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6703587.stm
the court will come into force on 10 June.
UN approves Hariri murder court
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6703587.stm
ongoing 911 based pattern with next Venus Passage June 6, 2012
Mercury 'The Messenger' and Venus in same position as at end of Mayan calender
Second Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon, Ain Hilwa in the south, explodes in violence:
[quote]military sources report Syria has lined up an anti-Lebanese government front of Palestinian and Islamic radicals for an orchestrated campaign of violence to derail the UN Security Council resolution establishing an international tribunal for prosecuting the suspected murderers of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq Hariri.
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=headline&hid=4271
Israel 'tests' Syria peace aims
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6737065.stm
Controversial Hariri court comes into force
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070610/1/494we.html
Syrian and Iranian Generals in Intensive War Consultations
http://www.debka.com/send.php?type=article&aid=1279
UN concerned at arms crossing Lebanon-Syria border
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070612/1/4967h.html
quote:
The Security Council on Monday ( June 11 - Dutch) reiterated "deep concern" at mounting reports of "illegal movements of arms" across the Lebanese Syrian-border, amid fears of escalating strife
quote:
"a steady flow of weapons and armed elements across the border from Syria."
quote:
"The information from the government of Lebanon on trafficking of arms and militants across the Syrian-Lebanese border is disturbing"
Assassination of Abu Nidal and fresh clashes between Hamas and Fatah:
quote:
Just like 9/11 (September 11, 2001) and Madrid ( March 11, 2004) were connected by a hyper Dimensional tetrahedron: 911 days + events day, the Hariri killing on Hyper Dimensional Cube date February 14, 2005 was connected with another HD Cube date at macrolevel via an Hyper Dimensional Tetrahedron: 911 days + events day is HD Cube date August 17, 2002 . On August 17, 2002 Mercury was on the same geometrical position of its orbit as on June 10, 2007 (+/- 1 day).

August 17, 2002 - June 11, 2007 = 1759 days

20 Mercury years in Earth days: 20 times 87.969 = 1759.3 days

The timeframe around August 17, 2002 is to be considered the 911 based 'control' starttriggerdate related to the Hariri killing

The related triggerevent during that timeframe would be the assassination of Abu Nidal on August 16, 2002 in Bagdad, opponent of Arafat's Fatah.
Abu Nidal:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Nidal

The Palestinean conflict is part of the evolving war scenario. As a 'coincidence' fresh clashes between Hamas and Fatah emerged on the same anticipated timeframe around June 10, 2007

Fatah boycott after Gaza fighting
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6747207.stm
]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6747207.stm[/quote][/url]
Palestinian fighting 'will burn all of us,' official says
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...).violence/index.html
Gaza gun battles rage on unabated
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6747841.stm
Mercury 'The Messenger' at same position as during awakenings starttrigger date related to Arafat's death

Disturbing developments:

Lebanese lawmaker killed in Beirut blast
POSTED: 0621 GMT (1421 HKT), June 14, 2007

BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) -- A member of the Lebanese parliament died in a Beirut bomb blast Wednesday -- the latest anti-Syrian politician to be killed in the country.
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)rut.blast/index.html

Bush links Syria to killing of Lebanese MP
Thursday June 14
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/070614/1/497t8.html

Abbas warns of 'collapse'
POSTED: 0256 GMT (1056 HKT), June 13, 2007
[url=http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/13/gaza.fighting/index.html[/quote]]http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/06/13/gaza.fighting/index.html[/quote][/url]

The underlying theme is an evolving war-scenario

Lett's see what the 'Hariri thread' in the HDDesign material has to offer for this monitored timeframe around December 8, 2009:

US to focus on uranium findings in Syria - evidence of Iranian proliferation
December 6, 2009

A senior official in the Obama administration described the UN nuclear watchdog inspectors' discovery of traces of highly processed plutonium at the bombed Syrian-North Korean facility at Dir a-Zur as a "smoking gun" - evidence of Iran's covert nuclear activities and proliferation
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6405

and

If attacked, Iran wants Syria to hit back at Israel. Damascus hedges

December 10, 2009

military sources report that this message Iran's defense minister Ahmad Vahidi brought to Damascus where he is attending a session of the high Iranian-Syrian defense committee which went into its second day Thursday, Dec. 10. The Iranian visitor indicated that Tehran expects an Israeli attack within a month
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=6413

Looks like an evolving war-scenario too.

During this monitored timeframe Barack Obama picked up the Nobel Peace Price in Oslo

What has he to say about war?

Obama defends war as he picks up Nobel Peace Prize

President Barack Obama has said the US must uphold moral standards when waging wars that are necessary and justified, as he accepted his Nobel Peace Prize.

In his speech in Oslo, he defended the US role in Afghanistan, arguing the use of force could bring lasting peace.

http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=9222&mforum=hddesign#9222

which makes the circle full for me:

its the war in Afghanistan that drew my attention to this timeframe and the start of the 'decoding' of the current timeframes:

I wrote on the timeline for December 3, 2009:
quote:
December 3, 2009 - Phi point (inwards) Sumatra quake/Tsunami December 26, 2004 - end of Mayan Calendar

because of the +/- 1 day correction and depending on the end of the Long count , december 21 or 23, 2012, this Phipoint should be considered a timeframe: at least 2 days +/- around December 3 ( peak date)

Barack Obama orders 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8389778.stm

Phi point outwards Sumatra quake/Tsunami December 26, 2004 - end of Mayan Calendar was January 15, 2008:

The Pentagon announces plans to send 3,200 additional Marines to Afghanistan, Tuesday, 15 January 2008:
More US marines for Afghanistan
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7189934.stm

back to Phipoint inwards:

Obama: Security of world at stake in Afghanistan
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)ghanistan/index.html
Afghan troop surge similar to Iraq plan?
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)raq.surge/index.html
Rep. Hinchey: Bush Administration 'Intentionally Let bin Laden Get Away' In Order To Justify Iraq War
http://www.huffingtonpost(...)minini_n_374640.html
Afghan victory key to defeating Al-Qaeda: Gates
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/(...)ry-nato-7e07afd.html
Bin Laden 'seen in Afghanistan'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8394470.stm

Samoan Tsunami wave was 46 feet high
The tsunami that killed more than 180 people in the Samoan islands and Tonga earlier this year towered up to 46 feet (14 meters) high _ more then twice as tall as most of the buildings it slammed into, scientists said Friday December 3, 2009.
http://blogs.lasvegassun.(...)ve-was-46-feet-high/

hitting mainstream at macrolevel: BBC top story:

Samoa tsunami 'twice height of buildings'
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8394892.stm
]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8394892.stm[/quote][/url]

get ready for the Waves of Change
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_76072785
exact vijf jaar na de verwoestende tsunami is Indonesië vandaag getroffen door een aardbeving
pi_76073163
Exact vijf jaar na de verwoestende Tsunami is Indonesië vandaag getroffen door een aardbeving.
pi_76176435
quote:
September 21, 2006 - 12:19PM

The man who shot Pope John Paul II in 1981 has warned Pope Benedict XVI, whose remarks enraged Muslims last week, not to visit the predominantly Muslim Turkey in November, saying the pontiff's life could be in danger, the gunman's lawyer said.

"As a man who knows these things, I am saying that your life is in danger, don't come to Turkey. I can't welcome you because I'm in prison," lawyer Mustafa Demirbag quoted Mehmet Ali Agca as saying.

The lawyer said Agca made his statement during a meeting at the high-security Kartal prison in Istanbul on Monday ( September 18, 2006/Dutch).

Demirbag said he would visit the gunman again tomorrow and was expecting his client to make further statements.

Benedict XVI said that he has "deep respect" for Islam but did not offer an apology as demanded by some Muslim leaders offended by the pontiff's remarks in Germany last week.

During his speech, the pontiff cited a Medieval text that characterised some of the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad as "evil and inhuman," particularly "his command to spread by the sword the faith."

Secular Turkey's ruling Islamic-rooted government accused him of trying to revive the spirit of the Crusades and called on the pontiff to offer a sincere and personal apology.

"Either apologise, or do not come," read a banner carried by dozens of protesters from a religious workers' union in Ankara yesterday - a sign many Muslims feel Benedict's expression of regret on Sunday was insufficient.

Agca speculated in a hand-written letter faxed to the Associated Press by his lawyer that the Pope was pressured by secret services to make such a statement.
Agca called on Benedict to step down as pope and return to Germany for a peaceful life.

There have long been questions about Agca's mental health. He fired on John Paul as the pontiff rode in an open car in St Peter's Square on May 13, 1981.

John Paul died last year and was replaced by Benedict XVI.

When asked by Turkish police earlier this year where he obtained the gun he used in his assassination attempt, Agca said: "These are minor details. It was written in my destiny 1,000 years ago. I fulfilled a mission that was written 1,000 years ago. I would shoot the Pope even if he was on the moon," Turkey's Hurriyet and Zaman newspapers quoted him as saying at the time.

John Paul was wounded but recovered. The Pope visited his attacker and forgave him in his Rome prison cell in 1983.

In January, Agca was released by mistake and was sent back to prison on January 20, eight days after being freed.

An appeals court ruled he had to serve more time for killing a prominent Turkish journalist, Abdi Ipekci, in 1979, and reversed a lower court ruling that had allowed him to be freed.

AP

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/09/21/1158431822277.html
It has been on my mind the whole day yesterday......

There's someting with this warning but I couldn't put my finger on it....

Yesterday evening it fell on its place....

Ali Agca made his statement on Monday September 18, 2006

The Pope is in danger......

On April 24, 2005 Pope Benedict XVI is formally installed as Pope of the Catholic Church in an inaugural mass.

Just like Pope JP II, Benedict XVI has been attached twice with Earth at the same orbital position:

Woman Who Toppled Pope Tried It Last Year
Vatican Identifies Attacker as Susanna Maiolo, Says She Was Involved in Similar Security Breach in '08

==
She was the same woman involved in a similar incident at last year's Midnight Mass, Vatican officials said. In that case, Maiolo jumped the barricade but never managed to reach the pope and was quietly tackled to the ground by security.

In both cases, she wore a red sweatshirt.

During Thursday night's service, Maiolo jumped the barricade and lunged for the pope as he processed down the aisle toward the altar. As security guards brought her down, she grabbed Benedict's vestments and pulled him down with her, according to witness video obtained by The Associated Press.

http://www.cbsnews.com/st(...)sContent;cbsCarousel

1982 Secret Pope Stabber:

The late Pope John Paul II was wounded by a knife-wielding priest in 1982, a year after he was shot in St. Peter’s Square, but the injury was kept secret, his former top aide says in a documentary film. Cardinal Stanislaw Dziwisz also disclosed that when John Paul was unable to pronounce words several days before his death in 2005, he told his aides that if he could not speak any more the time had come for him to die.

Dziwisz, who is now cardinal of Krakow, Poland, was John Paul’s private secretary and closest aide for nearly 40 years, including all of his 27 years as pontiff. On May 12, 1982, the pope was visiting the shrine city of Fatima in Portugal to give thanks for surviving a first assassination attempt a year earlier on May 13, 1981, when he was shot in St. Peter’s Square by Turkish gunman Mehmet Ali Agca.
http://xenophilius.wordpr(...)secret-pope-stabber/

Its the Golden Mean that unveils the hidden underlying Design

Maiolo's first attack on the Pope happended on December 25, 2008 during the christmass mass, which is Earth at orbital position of the Grand Gross.

Phipoint between inauguration Benedict XVI and first attack by Maiolo

April 24, 2005 ( inauguration) - December 25, 2008 ( Maiolo Pope attack) = 1.341 days

1.341 / Phi Golden Mean 2.61803399 = Phi point at 512 days =

September 18, 2006 , when Ali Agca made his statement

Be aware of the fact that we talk about orbital positions of the Grand Cross. The astrological Grand Cross alignment of August 18, 1999 ( 'as above' ) was the first 'marker' on Earth's orbit in order to determine a Grand Cross as created with Earth's orbital positions ( 'so below' )

The second 'marker' was the planetary alignment of May 5, 2000 so the last 2 orbital positions of the Grand Cross on Earth's orbit could be calculated: December 26 ( Sumatra quake /Tsunami ) and June 26
All dates are 'peak' dates .
More on the Grand Cross here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about413-hddesign.html


So Around Christmas 2009 its Grand Cross orbital position again....

at the bottow of the crucifix so to speak....


On top is around June 26....

Identified underlying themes for around June 25 are determined, of which 'exit of Sun King' is one.....


On christmas eve, Grand Cross:

Cardinal suffers broken leg as woman grabs pope
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)tmas.pope/index.html

Remember Micheal Jackson passed away last 'on top' Grand Cross...

On December 25, 2009 this article was published in Dutch mainstream, its about an insane man who wanted kill Michael Jackson on stage ( article in Dutch):

vr 25 dec 2009, 09:39 Michael Jackson doelwit aanslag van onze redactie
AMSTERDAM - Een gestoorde man wilde Michael Jackson op het podium om het leven brengen. http://www.telegraaf.nl/p(...)anslag__.html?p=8,2n

Remember these orbital positions of the Grand Cross seem somehow related to the exit of the Pope, as I already wrote on the timeline Q2 2010 here: http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about401-hddesign.html

Let's go back to Ali Agca....
quote:
When I read today that Antonov had died, I had to think about Ali Agca's odd release from prison early 2006 and his rearrest a few days later.

Accused Pope assassin Sergei Antonov dies

From correspondents in Sofia, Bulgaria

August 02, 2007 01:21am

SERGEI Antonov, the Bulgarian man accused of trying to kill Pope John Paul II in 1981 but later released for lack of evidence, was found dead in his home today, an official said.

“Antonov died a natural death. The hospital confirmed it to us,” an interior ministry official told Agence France-Presse.

Doctors said Antonov, 58, had died several days ago.

He was found after a neighbour noticed she had not seen him for a couple of days, the BGNES news agency reported.

Antonov, a former manager in the Rome office of Balkan Air, was arrested in 1982 for complicity in the 1981 attack against Pope John Paul II in Saint Peter's Square.

Mehmet Ali Agca, the man arrested on the spot and sentenced for the attack, told police that Antonov had given him the pistol he fired against the Pope and that the Bulgarian secret services were implicated.

Antonov was held for almost four years in Italy, only to be acquitted for lack of evidence in 1986.

He returned to Sofia and lived alone on a Government pension.

http://www.news.com.au/pe(...)5575-5005361,00.html

Antonov had died several days ago.

I think he probably died on July 29, 2007

[quote]Friday, 20 January 2006

Turkey ends Pope gunman freedom

The Turkish gunman who shot Pope John Paul II in 1981 has been rearrested after a court ruled he should return to prison, eight days after being freed.
Turkey's highest appeals court overturned the decision which allowed Mehmet Ali Agca to be released early.


555 awakenings starttriggerdate for July 29, 2007:

January 20, 2006

First thought indicates the connection, the triggerdates unveil the hidden underlying Design[/quote]

So the exact date Antonov died is unknown, but it is around July 29, 2007.

This Bulgarian connection seems indeed related to this assassination attempt on Pope JP II:

HDDesign is stronger than the lie......

Fact is that Antonov died at Phi point between Ali Agca being a FREE man...

Ali Agca was just the shooter, not the organizer....

Ali Agca will be free on January 18, 2010

Antonov died around July 29, 2007

July 29, 2007 - January 18, 2010 = 904 days

904 / Phi Golden mean = 904 / 1.61803399 = 558 days prior to July 29, 2007:

gives around January 17, 2006: Ali Agca was a free man from January 12-20, 2006!!!

Antonov died at Phipoint between Ali Agca being a free man!

When Ali made his statement in order to warn the Pope on September 18, 2006, he also talks about this: "the Pope was pressured by secret services to make such a statement".

The Bulgarian connection seem to confirm the hidden underlying forces at play: we all know who's behind the Bulgarian secret services in those days.

Moscow’s Assault on the Vatican
The KGB made corrupting the Church a priority.

By Ion Mihai Pacepa
The Soviet Union was never comfortable living in the same world with the Vatican. The most recent disclosures document that the Kremlin was prepared to go to any lengths to counter the Catholic Church’s strong anti-Communism.
http://article.nationalre(...)NWUwODJiOTEzYjY4NzI=
Mihai Pacapa:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Mihai_Pacepa

With Ali's warning as a fact and the June 26, 2010 events yet to materialize, I expected to find confirmation back in time with Ali's warning at Phipoint.

So let's see what the Golden Mean has to say when we give this future 'on top' Grand Cross date June 26, 2010 as closer look

June 26, 2010 is the expected timeframe with the underlying 'exit of the pope theme' ( not meaning the pope will die that day, the expressions could become more subtle ). Ali made his statement on September 18, 2006. From June 26, 2010 through Ali's warning at Phi point gives August 12, 2000

On that day an event that should be considered a 'warning' too:

Russian submarine K-141 Kursk was an Oscar-II class nuclear cruise missile submarine of the Russian Navy, lost with all hands when it sank in the Barents Sea on August 12, 2000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_submarine_K-141_Kursk

We have to wait until the orbital position of the Grand Cross for (ex-KGB) President Putin to show his face:

While the tragedy of the Kursk played out in the Far North, Russia's then President Vladimir Putin, though immediately informed of the tragedy, waited for five days ( Grand Cross Orbital Position ) before he broke a holiday at a presidential resort house in subtropical Sochi on the Black Sea before commenting publicly on the loss of the pride of the Northern Fleet. A year later he said: "I probably should have returned to Moscow, but nothing would have changed. I had the same level of communication both in Sochi and in Moscow, but from a PR point of view I could have demonstrated some special eagerness to return

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_submarine_K-141_Kursk

These are the kind of warnings back in our perspective of time that we we should use to the benefit of the destiny of mankind. Its similar as with the Tunguska event and as a coincidence its Deep Impact Earth flyby today.

These are profound 'revelations' that show up suddenly by synchronicity:

As readers can read in this HDDesign material, the Tunguska event is directly linked to Deep Impact on comet Temple I

Today December 29 is the last of the 3 Earth flyby's of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi

July 4, 2005 Impact on Comet Temple I is Phi point between the December 29, 2009 last Earth flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi and

September 25, 2002


September 25, 2002 - December 29, 2009 = 2.652

2.652 / 2.61803399 = 1.013 days

September 25, 2002 - July 4, 2005 Deep Impact ( phi point) = 1.013 days

Wouldn't it be an 'in the face' confirmation if some kind of a 'Tunguska confirmation' has happened on that day September 25, 2002?

Vitim event

The Vitim event or Bodaybo event is believed to be an impact by a bolide or comet nucleus in the Vitim River basin. It occurred near the town of Bodaybo in the Mamsko-Chuisky district of Irkutsk Oblast, Siberia, Russia on September 25, 2002 at approximately 10:00 p.m. (local time). The event was also detected by a U.S. military missile-defense satellite.

Some attempts were made to define the magnitude of the explosion. U.S. military analysts calculated it was between 0.2–0.5 kilotons, while Russian physicist Andrey Olkhovatov estimates it at 4–5 kilotons.

Information about the event appeared in the mass media and among scientists after only a week. Initially no one was able to understand the magnitude of the explosion. A small expedition, sent by the Institute of Sun–Earth Physics (Irkutsk), tried to find a meteorite within about 10 km from Bodaybo town (people told them– "it has fallen beyond the nearest mountain!").

Some people suggest that this phenomenon is similar to the Tunguska event of 1908.

As reported by Kosmopoisk, in May 2003 an expedition, performed by Kosmopoisk (leader — V. Chernobrov) reached the presumed impact point (about 50 km from Vitimsky settle point). The situation there looked similar to that of the Tunguska river after the Tunguska event in 1908. Snow and water samples were analyzed and found to contain an abnormal amount of tritium, as well as radioactive isotopes of cobalt and caesium.

Summing up all the information V.A. Chernobrov suggested, that the Vitim event could be caused by a falling of a comet nucleus with a diameter about 50–100 meters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitim_event
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_76214429
quote:
<============>[size=18]Communication[/size]<============>


<============><============>


Deep Impact is an ongoing NASA space probe which was launched on January 12, 2005. It was designed to study the composition of the comet interior of 9P/Tempel ( Temple 1 ), by colliding a section of the spacecraft into the comet. On July 4, 2005, the impactor of the Deep Impact probe successfully collided with the comet's nucleus. The impact excavated debris from the interior of the nucleus, allowing photographs of the impact crater. The photographs showed the comet to be more dusty and less icy than had been expected. The impact generated a large and bright dust cloud, which unexpectedly obscured the view of the impact crater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_(space_mission)

During the last couple of years this Hyper Dimensional Design 'research' has provided numerous indications of Intelligent Design in our reality.
The elements of HDDesign are based on Hyper Dimensional Physics, HD Platonic Solids geometry, mathematically determined timecoded patterns and orbital positions of the elements of our solarsystem.
The subconscious mind seems to be able to 'tune in' on this hidden underlying Design of our reality and this hidden Design is first unveiled by 'coincidences' and synchronicities that occur.
The conscious human mind is able to rationally understand these intelligent correlations by applying the described elements of HDDesign, but unfortunately most people will dismiss the initial indication and ignore it. Although these people seem to accept that they exist in THIS dimensional realm, they do not want to accept that other dimensional realms even exist.

While the indications are overwhelming

What I have learned from this HDDesign 'research' is that we can get rid of our rigid 3-dimensional ( or 4, time ) perspective of reality, we only have to take these initial indications serious and listen to our intuition first.
While working with this HDdesign material, the 'coincidences' constantly show up, all the time. Not once or twice, or only in the beginning, these coincidences are showing up all the time and its my experience that they are becomming more profound when time proceeds.
As if the ability is increasing, for human consciousness to unlock the real nature of the reality we live in.

This HDDesign research implies that consciousness also resides in other dimensions and that our reality is intelligently connected to other dimensions and that the indications of this connection can be understood with the rational mind.
The solarsystem we live in is also 'reflecting' the hidden undelying Deisgn of our reality, what we are consciously experincing here in our reality, is also reflected by specific orbital positions of the planets in our solarsystem.
If this is understood, one could imagine that a Deep Impact on a comet, just like we did with Comet Temple 1 on July 4, 2005, seems not a good idea. What do we know what kind of effects such an Impact would have for other dimensional realms, for consciousness itself? at all levels? Do we know what comet really represents?

Another underlying theme that shows up regularly in this HDDesign material is the (mis)use of nuclear power. What do we know what kind of effects a nuclear detonation has on other dimensional realms or consciousness itself, at all levels?

<==========> <=========>

With these two biggest mistakes of mankind we have crossed a red line: the use of nuclear weapons ( Hirhoshima / Nagasaki ) and the Impact on comet Temple 1.

And because we've crossed this red line we have been 'warned'.

The 'warning' comes from 'outside' our limited 3D perspective of reality and has been materialized in the past in our limited 3D perspective of time. We have to get rid of our linear perspective of time, these 3D limitations on linear time are only valid in the way we are consciously experiencing our reality, but its a limited perspective.

So this 'warning' has happened in the past of our perspective of time , but it is 'caused' by these 2 big mistakes of mankind.



I talk about the Tunguska event on June 30, 1908
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

The connectedness is fundamental and Intelligently determined by the Golden Mean Phi.

Tunguska -- 1 --> decission to use nuclear weapons -- 1,618034-> Deep Impact.

Deep Impact on Comet Temple 1 showed unexpected results and it seems to me that NASA has come to the conclusion that this Impact on comet temple I wasn't a good idea indeed.

There's evidence to support this, a while after the Deep Impact mission NASA started to 'Intelligently Communicate' with their initiated events in space, as if NASA wanted to say "sorry, we made a mistake, we didn't knew but we do understand now".
The 'communication' seems to be directed at other levels of consciousness, so it seems to me for reasons I will explain here.

We go back to May 29, 2008.

The Deep Impact mission was extended with the Epoxi Space mission and on May 29, 2008:

NASA's Deep Impact Films Earth as an Alien World
http://www.nasa.gov/topic(...)s/epoxi_transit.html

"NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft has created a video of the moon transiting (passing in front of) Earth as seen from the spacecraft's point of view 31 million miles away. Scientists are using the video to develop techniques to study alien worlds."



With this Earth-Moon transit captured by Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft on May 29, 2008, NASA is deliberately marking a Pi expression in space:

I wrote on January 2 this year:

"This Epoxi ( Deep Impact extended mission) - Earth - moon Transit as captured from Epoxi is awsom, and the awakeningstimeframe + Pi are confirming the hidden underlying Intelligent Design:

3 awakeningstimeframes = ascension timeframe, or 3333 Earth days
3333 / Pi = 1060 days on Earth ( in full days)

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

The Deep Impact - Moon Earth transit as seen on the picture above happened on May 29, 2008

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 = 1060 days on Earth!

Wake Up!

So this Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

The awakenings timeframe of 1111 days was the first identified element of hidden Intelligent Design that became a key element of these HDDesign theories, followed by the 911 based control timeframe and the ascension timeframe of 3333 days, the latter emphasized in the HDDesign theories as more profound."

and followed by this:

"this is so profound....when intuition speaks:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

next scheduled Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft flyby of comet Hartley 2: October 11, 2010.

As we have seen in previous posts and on the timeline, this May 29, 2008 timeframe of the Transit had a big emphasis on Pi, unveiling the correlations between Pi, ascension timframe, orbital positions, Deep Impact and the end of the Mayan Calendar

Wouldn't it be an unmistaken confirmation to find Pi expressed by these three events in space: Deep Impact on Temple I, the Epoxi - moon - Earth transit and the comet Hartley 2 flyby?

Wouldn't you think that if a Pi connection is there, it would be an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Intelligent Design?

fasten year seatbelt: Pi IS expressed by these Deep Impact events:

Timeframe Deep Impact on comet Temple I - comet Hartley flyby / Pi

is the same as:

Pi * difference between:

Deep Impact on Temple I - Epoxi / Moon / Eart Transit

and

Epoxii / Moom / Earth Transit - comet Hartly flyby

or in numbers:

July 4, 2005 ( Deep Impact Temple I) - October 11, 2010 ( comet hartley flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi) = 1925 days rounded

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 Epoxi - Moon transit = 1060 days rounded

May 29, 2008 Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit - October 11, 2010 comet Hartly flyby = 865 days rounded

The difference between 1060 and 865 is 195 days

1925 / Pi = 195 * Pi

or

1925 / Pi / Pi is the difference between the timeframes from the Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit and the 2 Deep Ipact spacecraft events!!

This is so beautiful and fundamental."

This is ONLY meant as a mean to communicate as it became clear that there will never be an encounter with comet Hartley on October 11, 2010.

This was a deliberate communication expressing Pi, initiated by NASA after the Impact on comet Temple 1. NASA is 'communicating' that they understand they shouldn't have impacted comet Temple I.
With this doing so, NASA understands that these kind of 'intelligent' communcations are somehow possible.

The 'confirmation' materialized on the ground that very same timeframe:

The 2008 Barbury Castle Pattern is Pi to 3.14159265358



“The fact that the Pi decimal point is included (in the 2008 Barbury Castle
barley pattern) and there is rounding up to 10 decimal places is to me a little mind boggling!”
– Michael Reed, Astrophysicist

At this stage NASA has only intelligently expressed that it is understood that they made a mistake.

But the communication goes on

October 9, 2009 - Centaur impact on Moon

On June 18, 2009, NASA launched this new "double mission" -- a SUV-sized spacecraft called "Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter" (LRO), designed to map the entire lunar surface in unprecedented detail over the next five years (and, several times); and, a "piggy-back" spacecraft, called the "Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite" (LCROSS), designed to direct the spent upper stage of the Atlas 5 LRO launch vehicle (the "Centaur" second stage) into a carefully targeted impact with the lunar surface on October 9, 2009.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Reconnaissance_Orbiter

This LCROSS mission with the moon impact was added to the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) mission after Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and agian this LCROSS missions is more a mean of 'communication' rather than a search for waterice on the moon, as we will see.

After Deep Impact, these 2 events in space followed, expressing the Golden Mean Phi in the same way as the Tunguska 'warning':

3 manmade impacts in space: connected by Golden Mean Phi:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I --- at Phi point U.S. satellite shootdown --- lunar impact

As soon as I understood this connection, the deliberately planned satellite shoot down and Moon Impact on a predetermined timeframe as a mean for 'communication', I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

At Phi point between Tunguska and the Moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Apollo 14 mission to the moon is on its way!

With an actual Impact on the moon too!!!!!!

I wrote:

"So the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission around February 2, 1971 and the October 9, 2009 double impact on the moon are connected with the Tunguska event, with the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission at Phi point.

The Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact is July 21, 1945, marking one of the biggest mistakes of mankind: the use of nuclear weapons. Its Earth's orbital position again that is marking the 'communication' that is taking place.

unbeleivable: there has been an actual impact too!!!!!

LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site

Oct 09, 2009
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon. The energy of the impact created small tremors that were measured by the seismometer placed on the Moon by Apollo 12 astronauts in 1969.
http://www.moondaily.com/(...)Impact_Site_999.html

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean

unbelievable

fundamental truth

The message of this 'communication' should be clear

Tunguska is a warning

Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space

we must not mess with nuclear power

With the predetermined satellite shootdown en Moon Impact on October 9 NASA is 'communicating'.
And again, just like the Pi cropcircle 'confirming' NASA's Pi expression with Deep Impact/Epoxi space missions ( May 29, 2008) , this NASA 'communication' that the Tunguska 'warning' has been understood, is confirmed during the same timeframe of the lunar Impact around October 9, 2009:

Asteroid explosion over Indonesia raises fears about Earth's defences

An asteroid that exploded in the Earth’s atmosphere with the energy of three Hiroshima bombs this month has reignited fears about our planet’s defences against space impacts.

On 8 October, the rock crashed into the atmosphere above South Sulawesi, Indonesia. The blast was heard by monitoring stations 10,000 miles away, according to a report by scientists at the University of Western Ontario.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space...s-defences.html

For more details I refer to the timeline Q4 2009 here:
Q4 2009 Timeline, October, November and December 2009
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about386-hddesign.html
you can login with user reader password reader
So December 29, 2009 was the scheduled date of the third Earth flyby of space craft Deep Impact/Epoxi, on its way to its encounter with comet Hartley 2:



As we have seen in the above quoted post, the mission milestones of this Epoxi mission seem to be key elements in the 'communication' that is taking place, rather than actual scheduled events on this Epoxi mission. The first date NASA communicated as encounter with comet Hartley2 , October 11, 2010, was only a mean of 'communication' in order to 'meet' the Intelligent correlations as described in the above quote.

NASA is COMMUNICATING


The question that arises is:

WHERE IS SPACECRAFT DEEP IMPACT/EPOXI?

"Mission controllers at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory began directing EPOXI towards Hartley 2 on November 1, 2007. They commanded the spacecraft to perform a three-minute rocket burn that changed the spacecraft's velocity. EPOXI’s new trajectory sets the stage for three Earth flybys, the first on December 31, 2007 ( again on December 30, 2007 and again on December 29, 2009/Dutch). This places the spacecraft into an orbital "holding pattern" until it’s time for the optimal encounter of comet Hartley 2 in 2010."

NASA has removed the above picture from the official epoxi mission site, but I have saved it in my own photobucket file.

There's no current info available about the current mission status and I also can't find anything about the scheduled December 29, 2009 Earth flyby. Did it actually happen or was it part of the 'communication'?

Was it this second 'Tunguska' warning that made NASA understand their mistake to impact comet Temple I, so NASA started to 'communicate' in order to express that 'we got the message'. ( we are sorry that we impacted comet Temple I, we won't do it again):

about this 'second Tunguska warning':

As readers can read in this HDDesign material, the Tunguska event is directly linked to Deep Impact on comet Temple I

December 29 is the last of the 3 scheduled Earth flyby's of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi

July 4, 2005 Impact on Comet Temple I is Phi point between the December 29, 2009 last Earth flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi and

September 25, 2002


September 25, 2002 - December 29, 2009 = 2.652

2.652 / 2.61803399 = 1.013 days

September 25, 2002 - July 4, 2005 Deep Impact ( phi point) = 1.013 days

Wouldn't it be an 'in the face' confirmation if some kind of a 'Tunguska confirmation' has happened on that day September 25, 2002?

Vitim event

The Vitim event or Bodaybo event is believed to be an impact by a bolide or comet nucleus in the Vitim River basin. It occurred near the town of Bodaybo in the Mamsko-Chuisky district of Irkutsk Oblast, Siberia, Russia on September 25, 2002 at approximately 10:00 p.m. (local time). The event was also detected by a U.S. military missile-defense satellite.

Some attempts were made to define the magnitude of the explosion. U.S. military analysts calculated it was between 0.2–0.5 kilotons, while Russian physicist Andrey Olkhovatov estimates it at 4–5 kilotons.

Information about the event appeared in the mass media and among scientists after only a week. Initially no one was able to understand the magnitude of the explosion. A small expedition, sent by the Institute of Sun–Earth Physics (Irkutsk), tried to find a meteorite within about 10 km from Bodaybo town (people told them– "it has fallen beyond the nearest mountain!").

Some people suggest that this phenomenon is similar to the Tunguska event of 1908.

As reported by Kosmopoisk, in May 2003 an expedition, performed by Kosmopoisk (leader — V. Chernobrov) reached the presumed impact point (about 50 km from Vitimsky settle point). The situation there looked similar to that of the Tunguska river after the Tunguska event in 1908. Snow and water samples were analyzed and found to contain an abnormal amount of tritium, as well as radioactive isotopes of cobalt and caesium.

Summing up all the information V.A. Chernobrov suggested, that the Vitim event could be caused by a falling of a comet nucleus with a diameter about 50–100 meters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitim_event

So what's up with NASA's Deep Impact/ Epoxi mission?

Did the Epoxi spacecraft fly by Earth Yesterday?

Did NASA abort the mission?

Will the comet encounter with comet Hartley 2 ever take place?
(Last scheduled date of this encounter announced by NASA is November 4, 2010.)

Has the Epoxi mission been changed, without announcements?

Why is related info deleted from the official NASA Epoxi mission site?

Has the Epoxi spacecraft perhaps been taken out?

calling sleuths, help me with looking for answers to these questions.
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  woensdag 30 december 2009 @ 12:13:10 #140
134009 Killaht
Words of Wisdom
pi_76215640
Ff serieus?! Zijn er mensen die dit serieus nemen?

Er gebeuren 1000en ongelukken of gebeurtenissen op de aarde elke dag, zo kan ik ook voorspellingen doen. En "worldevents" zien als peter r de vries... kom op. En dan pim fortuyn en theo van gogh met obama in verband brengen....

Zo kan ik ook voorspellen met mn phi.

Als je echt een nastradamus bent, geef je een datum die globaal iets betekent en dat je weet wat er dan gebeurt.

"Strange times are these in which we live
when old and young are taught in falsehoods school.
And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool"
pi_76239195
After the above post with all the 'Deep Impact' related issues, I decided to give this possible terrorist attack attempt on Northwest Airlines Flight 253 from Amsterdam to Detroit a look, which has happened on December 25, 2009.

I didn't had the time yet because I'm still working and I had other things on my mind when I could do the 'HDDesign research'.

First thought was Richard Reid, who failed to destroy a Boeing 767 on American Airlines Flight 63, a flight from Paris, Charles De Gaulle International Airport to Miami International Airport, USA, by igniting explosives hidden in his shoes. This has happened on December 22, 2001

I decided to calculate the Phi point in between and guess what?

The synchronicity is 'in the face':

Phi point is January 12, 2005

on that day spaceship Deep Impact/ Epoxi was launched from Earth into space!!!!!!!

Which in turn should be connected to 9/11, at least that's what I thought

From Deep Impact launch date January 12, 2005 through 9/11 at Phipoint gives August 18, 1999: the Grand Cross planetary alignment!! ( see previous post about the Pope)
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_76538898
January 10 + a few days could be interesting. keep an eye on the timeline, updates will follow here later
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about409-hddesign.html
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  maandag 11 januari 2010 @ 00:16:04 #143
271500 Captain_Zappa
Coffee and Cigarettes
pi_76663818
quote:
Op woensdag 30 december 2009 12:13 schreef Killaht het volgende:
Ff serieus?! Zijn er mensen die dit serieus nemen?

Er gebeuren 1000en ongelukken of gebeurtenissen op de aarde elke dag, zo kan ik ook voorspellingen doen. En "worldevents" zien als peter r de vries... kom op. En dan pim fortuyn en theo van gogh met obama in verband brengen....

Zo kan ik ook voorspellen met mn phi.

Als je echt een nastradamus bent, geef je een datum die globaal iets betekent en dat je weet wat er dan gebeurt.

Eens, ik kan voorspellen dat er volgedne week iets gebeurt met het openbaar vervoer.
En er rijd toevallig een bus tegen een paal.
Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over.
  maandag 11 januari 2010 @ 00:29:48 #144
256363 ZoKanIkHetOok
Also twitterte Zarathustra.
pi_76664254
Ja hallo, ik kom hier op TRU om bang gemaakt te worden voordat ik ga slapen, niet om in de lach te schieten van een hilarisch slechte OP in een dito slecht topic.
pi_76666036
pi_76785731
even tussendoor:

Goro posted this article at Etemenanki:
Wednesday, January 06, 2010
THE GENERAL'S WIDOW: A ROSWELL TELL-ALL
http://ufocon.blogspot.co(...)ell-tell-all-by.html

Today I decided to calculate midpoint between the epi centers of the Haiti and Eureka Earthquakes which appeared to be the city of San Antonio, Texas USA.
With this exact mid point I could determine the Phi point between the 2 quakes:

ROSWELL, NEW MEXICO USA
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  zaterdag 16 januari 2010 @ 20:06:01 #147
176420 Dibble
Neqschot...?
pi_76900158
Wat een BS

Wel respect voor Dutch dat ie dit al een aantal topics weet vol te houden
*Hosselcopter*
pi_76906073
heb je de timeline gevolgt of moet er een update komen?
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  zondag 17 januari 2010 @ 00:10:20 #149
176420 Dibble
Neqschot...?
pi_76908846
nee hoor, is prima zo
*Hosselcopter*
pi_77135443
The timelines for 2010:

Q1 2010 timeline
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about409-hddesign.html

Q2 2010 april. may and June
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about401-hddesign.html

Q3 2010 timeline, July - August - September 2010
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about408-hddesign.html

Q4 2010 timeline October, November and December 2010
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about425-hddesign.html

you can login with 'reader' password 'reader'.
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_77312880
first a reminder of what has already been posted followed by a 'confirmation' that showed up today:

<============>[size=18]Communication[/size]<============>


<============><============>


Deep Impact is an ongoing NASA space probe which was launched on January 12, 2005. It was designed to study the composition of the comet interior of 9P/Tempel ( Temple 1 ), by colliding a section of the spacecraft into the comet. On July 4, 2005, the impactor of the Deep Impact probe successfully collided with the comet's nucleus. The impact excavated debris from the interior of the nucleus, allowing photographs of the impact crater. The photographs showed the comet to be more dusty and less icy than had been expected. The impact generated a large and bright dust cloud, which unexpectedly obscured the view of the impact crater.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_(space_mission)

During the last couple of years this Hyper Dimensional Design 'research' has provided numerous indications of Intelligent Design in our reality.
The elements of HDDesign are based on Hyper Dimensional Physics, HD Platonic Solids geometry, mathematically determined timecoded patterns and orbital positions of the elements of our solarsystem.
The subconscious mind seems to be able to 'tune in' on this hidden underlying Design of our reality and this hidden Design is first unveiled by 'coincidences' and synchronicities that occur.
The conscious human mind is able to rationally understand these intelligent correlations by applying the described elements of HDDesign, but unfortunately most people will dismiss the initial indication and ignore it. Although these people seem to accept that they exist in THIS dimensional realm, they do not want to accept that other dimensional realms even exist.

While the indications are overwhelming

What I have learned from this HDDesign 'research' is that we can get rid of our rigid 3-dimensional ( or 4, time ) perspective of reality, we only have to take these initial indications serious and listen to our intuition first.
While working with this HDdesign material, the 'coincidences' constantly show up, all the time. Not once or twice, or only in the beginning, these coincidences are showing up all the time and its my experience that they are becomming more profound when time proceeds.
As if the ability is increasing, for human consciousness to unlock the real nature of the reality we live in.

This HDDesign research implies that consciousness also resides in other dimensions and that our reality is intelligently connected to other dimensions and that the indications of this connection can be understood with the rational mind.
The solarsystem we live in is also 'reflecting' the hidden undelying Deisgn of our reality, what we are consciously experincing here in our reality, is also reflected by specific orbital positions of the planets in our solarsystem.
If this is understood, one could imagine that a Deep Impact on a comet, just like we did with Comet Temple 1 on July 4, 2005, seems not a good idea. What do we know what kind of effects such an Impact would have for other dimensional realms, for consciousness itself? at all levels? Do we know what comet really represents?

Another underlying theme that shows up regularly in this HDDesign material is the (mis)use of nuclear power. What do we know what kind of effects a nuclear detonation has on other dimensional realms or consciousness itself, at all levels?

<==========> <=========>

With these two biggest mistakes of mankind we have crossed a red line: the use of nuclear weapons ( Hirhoshima / Nagasaki ) and the Impact on comet Temple 1.

And because we've crossed this red line we have been 'warned'.

The 'warning' comes from 'outside' our limited 3D perspective of reality and has been materialized in the past in our limited 3D perspective of time. We have to get rid of our linear perspective of time, these 3D limitations on linear time are only valid in the way we are consciously experiencing our reality, but its a limited perspective.

So this 'warning' has happened in the past of our perspective of time , but it is 'caused' by these 2 big mistakes of mankind.



I talk about the Tunguska event on June 30, 1908
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

The connectedness is fundamental and Intelligently determined by the Golden Mean Phi.

Tunguska -- 1 --> decission to use nuclear weapons -- 1,618034-> Deep Impact.

Deep Impact on Comet Temple 1 showed unexpected results and it seems to me that NASA has come to the conclusion that this Impact on comet temple I wasn't a good idea indeed.

There's evidence to support this, a while after the Deep Impact mission NASA started to 'Intelligently Communicate' with their initiated events in space, as if NASA wanted to say "sorry, we made a mistake, we didn't knew but we do understand now".
The 'communication' seems to be directed at other levels of consciousness, so it seems to me for reasons I will explain here.

We go back to May 29, 2008.

The Deep Impact mission was extended with the Epoxi Space mission and on May 29, 2008:

NASA's Deep Impact Films Earth as an Alien World
http://www.nasa.gov/topic(...)s/epoxi_transit.html

"NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft has created a video of the moon transiting (passing in front of) Earth as seen from the spacecraft's point of view 31 million miles away. Scientists are using the video to develop techniques to study alien worlds."



With this Earth-Moon transit captured by Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft on May 29, 2008, NASA is deliberately marking a Pi expression in space:

I wrote on January 2 this year:

"This Epoxi ( Deep Impact extended mission) - Earth - moon Transit as captured from Epoxi is awsom, and the awakeningstimeframe + Pi are confirming the hidden underlying Intelligent Design:

3 awakeningstimeframes = ascension timeframe, or 3333 Earth days
3333 / Pi = 1060 days on Earth ( in full days)

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

The Deep Impact - Moon Earth transit as seen on the picture above happened on May 29, 2008

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 = 1060 days on Earth!

Wake Up!

So this Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

The awakenings timeframe of 1111 days was the first identified element of hidden Intelligent Design that became a key element of these HDDesign theories, followed by the 911 based control timeframe and the ascension timeframe of 3333 days, the latter emphasized in the HDDesign theories as more profound."

and followed by this:

"this is so profound....when intuition speaks:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I happened on July 4, 2005

Deep Impact/Epoxi - Moon - Earth Transit happened at ascension starttriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar, on May 29, 2008.

next scheduled Deep Impact/Epoxi spacecraft flyby of comet Hartley 2: October 11, 2010.

As we have seen in previous posts and on the timeline, this May 29, 2008 timeframe of the Transit had a big emphasis on Pi, unveiling the correlations between Pi, ascension timframe, orbital positions, Deep Impact and the end of the Mayan Calendar

Wouldn't it be an unmistaken confirmation to find Pi expressed by these three events in space: Deep Impact on Temple I, the Epoxi - moon - Earth transit and the comet Hartley 2 flyby?

Wouldn't you think that if a Pi connection is there, it would be an unmistaken indication of hidden underlying Intelligent Design?

fasten year seatbelt: Pi IS expressed by these Deep Impact events:

Timeframe Deep Impact on comet Temple I - comet Hartley flyby / Pi

is the same as:

Pi * difference between:

Deep Impact on Temple I - Epoxi / Moon / Eart Transit

and

Epoxii / Moom / Earth Transit - comet Hartly flyby

or in numbers:

July 4, 2005 ( Deep Impact Temple I) - October 11, 2010 ( comet hartley flyby of spacecraft Deep Impact/Epoxi) = 1925 days rounded

July 4, 2005 - May 29, 2008 Epoxi - Moon transit = 1060 days rounded

May 29, 2008 Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit - October 11, 2010 comet Hartly flyby = 865 days rounded

The difference between 1060 and 865 is 195 days

1925 / Pi = 195 * Pi

or

1925 / Pi / Pi is the difference between the timeframes from the Epoxi/moon/Earth Transit and the 2 Deep Ipact spacecraft events!!

This is so beautiful and fundamental."

This is ONLY meant as a mean to communicate as it became clear that there will never be an encounter with comet Hartley on October 11, 2010.

This was a deliberate communication expressing Pi, initiated by NASA after the Impact on comet Temple 1. NASA is 'communicating' that they understand they shouldn't have impacted comet Temple I.
With this doing so, NASA understands that these kind of 'intelligent' communcations are somehow possible.

The 'confirmation' materialized on the ground that very same timeframe:

The 2008 Barbury Castle Pattern is Pi to 3.14159265358



“The fact that the Pi decimal point is included (in the 2008 Barbury Castle
barley pattern) and there is rounding up to 10 decimal places is to me a little mind boggling!”
– Michael Reed, Astrophysicist

At this stage NASA has only intelligently expressed that it is understood that they made a mistake.

But the communication goes on

October 9, 2009 - Centaur impact on Moon

On June 18, 2009, NASA launched this new "double mission" -- a SUV-sized spacecraft called "Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter" (LRO), designed to map the entire lunar surface in unprecedented detail over the next five years (and, several times); and, a "piggy-back" spacecraft, called the "Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite" (LCROSS), designed to direct the spent upper stage of the Atlas 5 LRO launch vehicle (the "Centaur" second stage) into a carefully targeted impact with the lunar surface on October 9, 2009.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Reconnaissance_Orbiter

This LCROSS mission with the moon impact was added to the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) mission after Deep Impact on comet Temple 1 and agian this LCROSS missions is more a mean of 'communication' rather than a search for waterice on the moon, as we will see.

After Deep Impact, these 2 events in space followed, expressing the Golden Mean Phi in the same way as the Tunguska 'warning':

3 manmade impacts in space: connected by Golden Mean Phi:

Deep Impact on comet Temple I --- at Phi point U.S. satellite shootdown --- lunar impact

As soon as I understood this connection, the deliberately planned satellite shoot down and Moon Impact on a predetermined timeframe as a mean for 'communication', I wanted to see if the Phi point between the 'incoming communication' Tunguska event on june 30, 1908 and this lunar Impact on October 9, 2009 would give confirmation of the underlying Design.

At Phi point between Tunguska and the Moon Impact on October 9, 2009 Apollo 14 mission to the moon is on its way!

With an actual Impact on the moon too!!!!!!

I wrote:

"So the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission around February 2, 1971 and the October 9, 2009 double impact on the moon are connected with the Tunguska event, with the Apollo 14 moonlanding mission at Phi point.

The Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact is July 21, 1945, marking one of the biggest mistakes of mankind: the use of nuclear weapons. Its Earth's orbital position again that is marking the 'communication' that is taking place.

unbeleivable: there has been an actual impact too!!!!!

LRO Sees Apollo 14's Rocket Booster Impact Site

Oct 09, 2009
A distinctive crater about 35 meters (115 feet) in diameter was formed when the Apollo 14 Saturn IVB (upper stage) was intentionally impacted into the moon. The energy of the impact created small tremors that were measured by the seismometer placed on the Moon by Apollo 12 astronauts in 1969.
http://www.moondaily.com/(...)Impact_Site_999.html

Tunguska - Moon Impact - Moon Impact

connected by Phi point Golden Mean

unbelievable

fundamental truth

The message of this 'communication' should be clear

Tunguska is a warning

Human consciousness must remain Earthbound and we should not interfere with objects in space

we must not mess with nuclear power

With the predetermined satellite shootdown en Moon Impact on October 9 NASA is 'communicating'.
And again, just like the Pi cropcircle 'confirming' NASA's Pi expression with Deep Impact/Epoxi space missions ( May 29, 2008) , this NASA 'communication' that the Tunguska 'warning' has been understood, is confirmed during the same timeframe of the lunar Impact around October 9, 2009:

Asteroid explosion over Indonesia raises fears about Earth's defences

An asteroid that exploded in the Earth’s atmosphere with the energy of three Hiroshima bombs this month has reignited fears about our planet’s defences against space impacts.

On 8 October, the rock crashed into the atmosphere above South Sulawesi, Indonesia. The blast was heard by monitoring stations 10,000 miles away, according to a report by scientists at the University of Western Ontario.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space...s-defences.html

For more details I refer to the timeline Q4 2009 here:
Q4 2009 Timeline, October, November and December 2009
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about386-hddesign.html
you can login with user reader password reader

I have posted much more in relation to what I have to rell today but its to much to repost. I do want to remind you of what I poated on June 5 last year:

"The destiny of mankind is in our hands, we will keep on running towards nuclear devastation or we will crash land safe, the probability of the latter goes hand in hand to what extend we will be able to listen to ‘Tunguska’s warning’.
“Don’t mess with nuclear power ( Hirhoshima/Nagasaki) and stay out of space ( Deep impact on Tempe I )”


So Tunguska happened at THE moment in order to mark the Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact. This phipoint marks the moment that it was decided to uses nuclear arms on Japan.

This 'Hirshosima crash' ( reread previous posts about the identification ) happened on August 6 2005, THE moment with at Phi point in between Tunguska the moment the military order to use nuclear weapons was given

So both Tunguska and the Hirhoshima crash on August 6, 2005 happened on an intelligently Designed moment in our perception of time, marking Deep Impact and the political decision and mission orders to use nuclear arms on Hirhoshima-Nagasaki.

And now the signifigance of flight 522 ‘running on autopilot towards nuclear event’ crash in Marathon, Greece, becomes clear in full force:

Tunguska and flight 522 crash are marking at Phi point:

August 6, 1945 – detonation of an atomic bomb on Hirhoshima !!!!!!

Now lets see what has happened during this Easter weekend because I expected a related event. Flight 522 was flying on autopilot with the pilots and passengers frozen to death.

Besides this emerging nuclear conflict with Korea with it space launch I noticed this on the same CNN main page when I was monitoring this timeframe ( for more related events see timeline Q2 2009 ):

From the timeline:

updated april 14-15

Report: North Korea to quit nuclear talks
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)rea.talks/index.html
Passenger helps land plane after pilot dies
Controllers help him turn off autopilot, land plane: "The turn looks good, very good sir"
"an Easter miracle"
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)emergency/index.html

So the warnings given by Tunguska and the August 6 and 14 2005 crashes should be understood, but the Design is also indicating that we can land this plane safe so to speak. Just like this praying pilot on August 6, 2005 or Yamaguchi becoming a double Hibakusha, the Hudson crash landing or these people experiencing this Easter miracle.

Much will depend on how we will deal with the related karmic issues that are coming up. "

So now we are back to today's developments.
I was at work and had to think about the jet crash in Lebanon that happened on January 25.

As you can see on the timeline I have pre-determined this date as related to 'Deep Impact':

January 25, 2010 - deep Impact on comet Temple I is ascencion start triggerevent

This Ethiopia plane 'flew wrong way' when it left from Rafik Hariri - airport in Beirut.

With Flight 522 'running on autopilot towards nuclear event' crash on August 14, 2005 as such an important marker in the communication that is taking place, I had to think of the correlations between these 2 crashes as part of the 'communication'.
While I was at work it suddenly popped up in mind to determine the two Pi points similar as with the 'Deep Impact' communication as explained above in this post.

In order to 'express' Pi between 2 events you have to devide the timeframe in between twice with Pi. Than you have to deduct that result from the timeframe and devide the remaining by 2. Add the result to one of this halfs and you get 2 points in between that express Pi together.

That's how it is determined with this Deep Impact - Moon - earth transit and comet encounters as described above.

Anyway, in this case it means:

Flight 522 crash August 14, 2005 - January 25, 2010 Lebanon crash is
1625 days

Devide 1625 twice by Pi: 1625 / 3.14159265 / 3.14159265 = 164.6 days rounded

deduct 164.6 from the timeframe in between:

1625 minus 164.6 = 1460,4

devide by 2 = 730 rounded

So 730 is the first point and 730 +164,6 is the second point that expres pi together on a 'line'

I already sensed something signifigant was coming up when I determined the first Pi date in relation to the August 14, 2005 and January 25, 2010 crashes:

I almost fell off my chair when I noticed that the first Pi point was at Earths same orbital position as during the Flight 522 'running on autopilot towards a nuclear event' crash: August 14, 2007
exactly 2 Earth orbits after the first crash

I was flabbergasted when I noticed that the second Pi point gave January 25, 2008
exactly 2 Earth orbits prior to the last crash

THIS IS COMMUNICATION THAT IS TAKING PLACE!!!!!!

despite of the guidance from the traffic tower in Beirut, this plane took the wrong way towards it devastation.

It seems we are still running on autopilot towards a nuclear event
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  woensdag 27 januari 2010 @ 13:19:29 #152
75447 sir_Tachyon
46 and 2 Just Ahead of Me
pi_77331597
@Dutch

Heb je ook visuele weergaves van je bovenstaande berekeningen. En misschien wat standaard regels over waarom en wanneer je iets door Pi deelt of vermenigvuldigd???
"The boy blesses whispers into words,
in the painted valleys they await rain"
pi_77431168
Ik heb helaas geen mooie software voor de visuele aspecten, of de tijd om daar mee bezig te zijn.

Het onderliggende element van Intelligent ontwerp wordt 'gedetecteerd' door het onderbewuste in eerste instantie. Vaak zijn dat trigger events, orbital posities, Phi punten maar ook Pi. Ik weet te weining waarom het de ene keer Phi ( golden Mean) is en de andere keer Pi, wat mij wel opvalt is dat veel wat met de "deep Impact' materie te maken heeft op Pi gebaseerd is.
Het is zelfs met flight 522 crash in 2005 die 'Deep Impact'gerelateerd is dat Pi voor het eerst in het HDDesign naar voren kwam. En Pi komt iedrekeer in dit 'Deep Impact' verband terug

read the follow up post here:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=9562&mforum=hddesign#9562

I expect that the number of updates on the timelines will increase signifigantly and I'm not sure if I will be able to cross post in time. I will focus on the HDDesign material first and I will try to cross post updates as much as possible

updates are logged at Hyper Dimensional Design main forum:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/forum-1-hddesign.html
you can login with 'reader' password 'reader'.
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  maandag 1 februari 2010 @ 12:07:25 #154
75447 sir_Tachyon
46 and 2 Just Ahead of Me
pi_77507782
quote:
Op vrijdag 29 januari 2010 21:34 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
Ik heb helaas geen mooie software voor de visuele aspecten, of de tijd om daar mee bezig te zijn.

Het onderliggende element van Intelligent ontwerp wordt 'gedetecteerd' door het onderbewuste in eerste instantie. Vaak zijn dat trigger events, orbital posities, Phi punten maar ook Pi. Ik weet te weining waarom het de ene keer Phi ( golden Mean) is en de andere keer Pi, wat mij wel opvalt is dat veel wat met de "deep Impact' materie te maken heeft op Pi gebaseerd is.
Het is zelfs met flight 522 crash in 2005 die 'Deep Impact'gerelateerd is dat Pi voor het eerst in het HDDesign naar voren kwam. En Pi komt iedrekeer in dit 'Deep Impact' verband terug

Software hoeft van mij ook niet. Maar een diagram of een grafiek, want ik krijg wel het idee dat je die berekeningen op die manier kan weergeven. Ik ben niet echt een expert in grafieken maken e.d. maar ik denk dat je er wat meer aanhangers door krijgt.
Ik zag ook heel vluchtig dat posities van planeten van bepaalde gebeurtenissen op punten uitkomen waar je dan bijvoorbeeld een Tetrahedron uit op te maken is. Zijn er nog meer geometrische figuren op te maken uit een reeks van data?
"The boy blesses whispers into words,
in the painted valleys they await rain"
pi_77649184
Ik kan gewoon niet te lang stil staan om bevindingen duidelijker te presenteren. Ik ben me ervan bewust dat het erg veel vergt van iemand die probeert het te begrijpen, maar het is niet anders.

Eeen hyper dimensional tetrahedron krijgt zijn geometrische oorsprong mee van 'buiten' onze 3 ( of 4) dimensies. In onze realiteit hebben ze geen vorm maar je kan het het beste visualiseren door 2 tegenovergestelde Tetrahedrons the plaatsen op de omloopbaan van de aarde rond de zon. 1 naar boven ( noord ) en 1 naar zuid gericht. De zon staat in het midden ahw.

Nu moet je je voorstellen dat deze HD tetrahedrons gekanteld worden en in elkaar geperst, zodat er eigenlijk alleen nog maar geometrisch bepaalde punten op de omloopbaan overblijven die de geometrische correlaties van de HD Tetrahedron weergeven. Als de aarde op dat punt van de omloop aankomt worden de onderliggende thema's in onze 3D realiteit gemanifesteerd.

Zo gaat het ook met de andere Platonic Solids, in iedere mogelijke orientering
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_77650380
quote:
Op donderdag 4 februari 2010 22:36 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
Ik kan gewoon niet te lang stil staan om bevindingen duidelijker te presenteren. Ik ben me ervan bewust dat het erg veel vergt van iemand die probeert het te begrijpen, maar het is niet anders.
Dan vraag ik me toch af... Als je je bewust van bent dat mensen het niet begrijpen zonder er gigantisch in te verdiepen, in materie waar bijna geen doorkomen aan is... Waarom post je het dan ? Doe je het vooral voor jezelf??

Als je er iets meer energie in zou steken om het voor meer mensen begrijpelijk te maken zal je niet alleen meer medestanders krijgen n.a.v. je postings, maar wellicht mensen die met je mee doen om dit onderliggende design te ontcijferen en je zelf ook verder komt...
Have fun...
  vrijdag 5 februari 2010 @ 09:00:11 #157
75447 sir_Tachyon
46 and 2 Just Ahead of Me
pi_77658370
Vind ik wel een goed punt van Handschoen. Maar volgens mij is Dutch geen kluizenaar zonder baan enzo dus ik kan mij wel voorstellen dat hij alleen tijd heeft voor de recente ontwikkelingen.

@Dutch, zijn er aanhangers op je forum die het eventueel kunnen verduidelijken? Want ik wil het eigenlijk toch wel een keer gaan snappen.
"The boy blesses whispers into words,
in the painted valleys they await rain"
pi_77671685
Kijk,

Ik ben inderdaad geen kluizenaar. Ik heb een drukke baan en ook thuis heb ik weining tijd omdat ik een gezin heb met kleine kinderen. Ik ben hier al een jaar of 6 a 7 mee bezig en zeker in de begin tijd had ik weining kennis en moest ik alles intuitief uitzoeken en dmv synchroniteiten gaan begrijpen. In het begin had ik ook meer tijd en ook een baan ver onder mijn niveau waardoor ik onder werktijd een heleboel tussendoor kon doen.

Ik ben dit materiaal gaan delen omdat het naar mijn overtuiging boodschappen bevat die ons allen aan gaan als we het hebben over de bestemming van de mensheid.

Het is niet mijn eerste doel om iemand individueel tot begrip te brengen maar meer om dmv de tijdslijnen te gaan begrijpen in wat voor diepere context de gebeurtenissen in onze realiteit plaats vinden.

Ik denk dat iemenad die het wil begrijpen niet bij het begin moet beginnen, maar beter aan de hand van de tijsdslijnen steeds wat meer materiaal te lezen.

Dit is niet zomaar een verhaal dat verteld kan worden. Het zal verworpen worden.
Persoonlijk ervaar ik iedere dag van die 'toevalligheden' en synchroniteiten die bevestiging geven, maar een lezer moet ook zelf investeren in het materiaal en er mee aan de slag gaan.
Kennis komt niet zo maar aanwaaien. Ik ben altijd bereid om specifieke vragen te beantwoorden maar er moet echt ook geinvesteerd worden om het te proberen te begrijpen.

In het verleden heb ik op meerdere forums uitleg gegeven en die staan ook allemaal vermeld op het HDDesign forum. Wellicht is het handig om ook die uitleg door te lopen, maar alles kost tijd: je moet er echt in investeren. In de tussentijd kunnen de onrtwikkelingen rond de tijdslijnen in de gaten gehouden worden en zo beetje bij beetje meer kennis te verkrijgen.

Dit is geen commercieel verhaal om meer aanhangers te krijgen, ik wil het in eerste instantie gewoon begrijpen. Daarvoor moet ik 'reseach'doen, toevalligheden en synchronicities serieus nemen en opvolgen, het materiaal loggen, toekomstige tijdsgecodeerde patronen identificeren en lopende patronen monitoren, het nieuws bij houden en ook nog eens mijn bevindingen naar de mensen brengen dmv cross-postings. En dat gedurende jaren achtereen, want dat is nodig om het rigide werkelijkheidsbeeld van de meeste mensen uiteindelijk te doorbreken. Dat kan alleen als mensen zelf die 'toevalligheden'gaan (h)erkennen waarop dit HDDesign gebaseerd is.
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  vrijdag 5 februari 2010 @ 15:34:36 #159
75447 sir_Tachyon
46 and 2 Just Ahead of Me
pi_77672014
Fair enough. Ik ben wel bereid om een keer in het diepe te duiken maar dat zal nog wel een tijdje duren. Tot dan, keep them coming, Dutch.
"The boy blesses whispers into words,
in the painted valleys they await rain"
pi_78571834
Chili is with Mercury The messenger at same orbital position as during the expected 'contact' around August 23, 2010.

read Goro's update about Enki:
Contact via Earthquakes
Pentagonal Stargate Activation 2010
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/contact-penta-quakes.htm

Eureka on January 10, 2010 was at VENUS at same orbital postion as during August 23, 2010


see also the Roswell correlations in HDDesign and Goro's work

AUGUST 23, 2010 IS HDDESIGN ONLY!

I'm currently filtering 'Enki' from the HDDesign material

May 27, 2010 is the last orbital position of an inner planet prior to 'contact'

updates are posted on the timelines and the 'Enki' thread

http://hddesign.forumup.nl/index.php?mforum=hddesign
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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Heeft het design deze aardbeving niet door laten schemeren Dutch?
Have fun...
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23 augustus 2010 is al in juni 2009 bepaald en op de tijdslijn gezet voor Q3 2010

Deze aardbevingen ( Eureka en Chili ) markeren 'contact' via de omloop posities van de binnen planeten

Ik heb hier meer over gepost en je moet ook Goro's update lezen
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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quote:
Op maandag 1 maart 2010 21:52 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
23 augustus 2010 is al in juni 2009 bepaald en op de tijdslijn gezet voor Q3 2010

Deze aardbevingen ( Eureka en Chili ) markeren 'contact' via de omloop posities van de binnen planeten

Ik heb hier meer over gepost en je moet ook Goro's update lezen
Goro is niet geschikt voor Fok ... daarom laat ik zijn naam/site ook zo weinig mogelijk vallen in topics hier. Alles wordt hier toch maar belachelijk gemaakt.
quote:
Op zondag 28 februari 2010 22:31 schreef Dutch. het volgende:

AUGUST 23, 2010 IS HDDESIGN ONLY!
Wat mogen we hier onder verstaan/verwachten Dutch ?
I understand how you feel. You see, it's all very clear to me now. The whole thing. It's wonderful.
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Wat is een Goro
Have fun...
  dinsdag 2 maart 2010 @ 12:33:35 #165
75447 sir_Tachyon
46 and 2 Just Ahead of Me
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quote:
read Goro's update about Enki:
Contact via Earthquakes
Pentagonal Stargate Activation 2010
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/contact-penta-quakes.htm
Goed lezen.
"The boy blesses whispers into words,
in the painted valleys they await rain"
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In hoeverre is STRUG de moeite waard? Dutch of Unclescorp ervaring daarmee? Vraag het me toch telkens weer af, als ik weer op de site van Goro kom..

Ook maar weer eens verder lezen op HDD forum!
Ware Wijsheid Liefdevolle Vrede
Peaceful Warrior "What are you?" "This Moment"
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Ik lees STRUG niet

I want to talk about the Tunguska Event and the Roswell crash again.

I already showed to you that if the Roswell crash is at Phipoint on a timeline marked by the Tunguska Event, than the other marker would be August 23, 2010. I will monitor that date very closely and it will be added to the timeline of Q3 2010.

That's with the Roswell crash at Phi point 'outwards':

Tunguska June 30, 1908 - Roswell crash July 7, 1947 = 14.251 days

14.251 * Phi 1.61803399 = 23.058

Roswell crash July 7, 1947 - August 23, 2010 = 23.058 days


There's ofcourse also a marker with the Roswell crash at Phi point 'inwards'.

That marker is determined as August 17, 1971 ( +/- 1 day as usual):

Tunguska June 30, 1908 - Roswell crash July 7, 1947 = 14.251 days

14.251 / 1.6180339 = 8.807 days

Roswell crash July 7, 1947 - August 17, 1971 = 8.807 days

The 'communication' in relation to Tunguska and Roswell in our reality is Intelligently marked by Mercury 'The Messenger':

Tunguska - Rowell = 14.251 days
August 17, 1971 - August 23, 2010 = 14.251 days

162 Mercury Years of 87.9691 Earth days is 14.251 days

Mercury 'The Messenger' at same orbital position.

In line with Tunguska and Roswell I expected to find somekind of extra-terrestrial 'confirmation around August 17, 1971 (+/-1 day)
The Black Manta Ray U.F.O.
(Incident at Crow Creek August, 1971)
Abductee; John R. Renz Ex-Airman U.S.A.F. 1971.
http://www.iwasabducted.c(...)ve1/messages/84.html
with more details:
http://www.iwasabducted.com/vidimagic/part1.htm
and part 2
http://www.iwasabducted.com/vidimagic/part2.htm

With these 'Nagca lines communication' themes as mentioned on the timeline Q1 2010 I have to say that the 'contact' theme is on my mind in relation the the current developments. Couldn't put my finger on it though.
Goro seems to be able:

Contact via Earthquakes
Pentagonal Stargate Activation 2010
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/contact-penta-quakes.htm

last evening I had this 'experience' while playing on my daughters nintendo. I was playing soccer and in the game the German keeper Encki ( who committed suicide last year ) made an OWN GOAL.

I had to think about that, Enki making an own goal....

Than I just read Goro's update:
quote:
Enki works in mysterious ways. He sees the angles. He sees the alignments. He understands space. He understands time. It's '2010' and he comes in peace. Contact via earthquakes... This is it. This is how it begins...
Earth is Enki's own goal

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/contact-penta-quakes.htm

Note that I identified the Roswell crash site as calculated phi point between the Eureka and Haiti Earth quakes.....

Goro is mentioning the Roswell crash site too in his update.

'Nagza' and Mars should be considered part of the communication aswell

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October 1, 2007 - February 27, 2010

Mercury 'The Messenger' at same orbital position again

10 Mercury Years in Earth days is 880 days

repost:

The Hyper Dimensional Octahedron timeframe around October 1, 2007 showed alot of 'Enki symbolism' in the actual events that happened during that timeframe, as mentioned on the timeline

In response to my posts about this HD Octahedron timeframe, someone at another forum asked me about the Tunguska 1908 event, because she thought it must figure in somehow. I considered this to be a synchronicity and look what popped up instantly, I replied to her:

I must say that I nearly fell out of my chair. I had to think of Deep Impact on Independance Day July 4, 2005.

at Phi point:

July 20, 1945

US President Harry S. Truman approves order for atomic bombs to be used.

related events:

The Tunguska event, sometimes called the Tunguska explosion, was a massive explosion that occurred near the Podkamennaya (Under Rock) Tunguska River in what is now Krasnoyarsk Krai of Russia, at 7:40 AM on June 30, 1908.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

Deep Impact is an ongoing NASA space probe launched on January 12, 2005 that was designed to study the composition of the interior of the comet 9P/Tempel (old-style name "P/Tempel 1") by colliding a section of the spacecraft into the comet. At 5:52 UTC on July 4, 2005, the impactor of the Deep Impact probe successfully impacted the comet's nucleus, excavating debris from the interior of the nucleus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Impact_%28space_mission%29

The 'Enki Symbolism' becomes apparent again:

The composition of the Tunguska body remains a matter of controversy. In 1930, the British astronomer F.J.W. Whipple suggested that the Tunguska body was a small comet. A cometary meteorite, being composed primarily of ice and dust, could have been completely vaporized by the impact with the Earth's atmosphere, leaving no obvious traces. The comet hypothesis was further supported by the glowing skies (or "skyglows" or "bright nights") observed across Europe for several evenings after the impact, apparently caused by dust that had been dispersed across the upper atmosphere.

In 1978, Slovak astronomer Ľubor Kresák suggested that the body was a piece of the short-period Comet Encke, which is responsible for the Beta Taurid meteor shower; the Tunguska event coincided with a peak in that shower.[11] It is now known that bodies of this kind explode at frequent intervals tens to hundreds of kilometres above the ground. Military satellites have been observing these explosions for decades.

Tunguska event
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

Just like there's a difference between nuclear technology and the actual decission to use this technolgy in order to detonate nuclear bombs, there's
also a difference between going on a little space trip and impacting a comet's nucleus ( given the possibility that we indeed live in an solar system that is part of a multidimensional reality, at least that's what this HDDesign 'research' seems to indicate):

we are probably crossing a red line

We didn't decide to use nuclear bombs because of Tunguska

We didn't decide to impact the Temple I because of Tunguska

I wrote in my online diary:

"This HD Octahedron timeframe has been very interesting. The publication during the timeframe about the solar CME which ripped off comet Enki's tail is indeed very interesting, but the fact that the events actually took place during the HD Tetrahedron timeframe around April 21 is very profound and 'in the face', at least to me. I posted about Enki in relation to this HD Tetrahedron timeframe around April 21 and at the very same moment this event related to comet Enki actually took place in space, simultaneously!
The HD Tetrahedron timeframe in April was already loaded with symbolism as i have posted on the timeline and in the 'breaking the Code' thread, especially in relation to Marathon and the ancient myths.
I think it is about time we seriously ask ourselves these question:

Where did the ancients get their inspiration from when they created their myths?

Could it be possible that events in our times are somekind of an echo of these ancient myths, or are they expressions of the same underlying themes?

Is it perhaps possible that the visionairs and profets of ancient times 'saw' our current times and translated them into understandable language of the ancient times, so that we in fact are creating the myths of our past?

I really think we have to get rid of our linear perceptive of time, the hyper Dimensioanl Design has always been there and will always be there, we are just travelling on a 3D planet from interaction to interaction."

With that said, I want to emphasize the possibility of Tunguska being a warning because of our decission to use nuclear weapons and our interference with objects that belong to our solarsystem.

a few days later I wrote in my diary:
"Last week when somebody asked me about The Tunguska event I had to think about Deep Impact on Temple I instantly. When I calculated the Phi point I saw that it should be somewhere during WWII but not Hirhoshima-Nagasaki, because I didn't recognize the Hirhoshima/Nagasaki - Deep impact timeframe as such. As this has everything to do with consciousness, I expected that the nuclear theme would pop up somehow, probably with nuclear testing or decission making. That's what I thought just before I came to know about the exact date of the Phi point between Tunguska and Deep Impact.
I have to emphasize that I almost fell out of my chair when I noticed that this Phi point coincided with the approval by the US President to use nuclear bombs!!! ( which actually happened some days later).

I think we really have to let go our linear perspective of time and our rigid perception of causality.

We have to deal with these carmic issues indeed, but it would be a very bad idea for someone to decide to misuse nuclear power again. very bad for our destiny."

You might think that it is just not possible and even delusional to even think about this possibility, but look what popped up by synchronicity when I gave it a second look:

There has been another event similar as Tunguska. When Mercury 'The Messenger God' saw Tunguska happen, Mercury was at a specific geometrical position and Mercury was at exactly that same position again when this other event happened:

Eastern Mediterranean Event

The Eastern Mediterranean Event was a high-energy aerial explosion over the Mediterranean Sea, around 34ºN 21ºE (between Libya and Crete, Greece) on June 6th, 2002[1]. This explosion, similar to a small atomic bomb, has been related to an asteroid undetected while approaching the Earth. The object disintegrated and no part was recovered. Since it didn't reach the surface and it exploded over the sea, no crater was formed.

Similar to the Tunguska event, the asteroid —about 30ft in diameter— exploded as a consequence of the energetic alteration of atmospheric entries. It was detected by satellites and seismographic stations, with a calculated yield of about 26 kt (doubling Hiroshima, approximately Nagasaki, a small modern nuclear bomb). Had it detonated on a populated area, the consequences would have been catastrophic.

Additionally, India and Pakistan —nations with nuclear weapons— were in a high alert. It has been said that had the explosion happened in this area (quite probable, since the position of the Eastern Mediterranean Event and the disputed Kashmir territory are in the same latitude, thus being a matter of only a few hours by cause of Earth rotation), it could have been possibly taken for an attack, potentially triggering a nuclear war between these countries.[1][2][3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Mediterranean_Event

June 29, 1908 - June 6, 2002 is 34.310 days is 390 Mercury years in Earth days: Mercury 'The Messenger' at same geometrical position.

I think our destiny will depend on how we deal with these warnings.

I think the Hariri killing still is the initial trigger that could cause a war scenario to evolve. If a major war will breakout, than it is very likely that nuclear weapons are going to be used.

It must not happen

It doesn't have to happen

Its potentially there but we are able to express the underlying themes at a more subtle level in our reality.

now back to the current events.

THE 8.8 CHILI QUAKE HAPPENED 2 MERCURY YEARS IN EARTH DAYS UNTIL "CONTACT" AROUND AUGUST 23, 2010. SEE TIMELINE Q3 2010
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August 6, 2010 - next perihelion Comet Enke ( ENKI ), during last perihlion the Sun ripped off comet Encke's tail with a CME
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Encke

August 23, 2010 - Contact



August 29, 2010 - next on the Phi based timecoded spiral Venus Transit 2004 - flight 522 'running on autopilot towards nuclear event' crash.
May 27, 2010 - 1 Mercury Year in Earth days prior to ENKI CONTACT

Eureka quake January 10, 2010 - August 23, 2010 'contact':


exactly 1 Venus Year in Earth days
quote:
Next perihelion: 6 August 2010 , Earth's orbital position of Hiroshima

Near Earth object 2004 TG10 may be a fragment of Encke.

Epoch: June 18, 2009

Earth's orbital position of awakenings endtriggertimeframe related to flight 447 crash ( around June 16, 2010 )
June 1, 2009 – Air France Flight 447, en route from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to Paris, crashes into the Atlantic Ocean, killing all 228 on board.

2 VENUS YEARS IN EARTH DAYS PRIOR TO 'CONTACT'

flight 447 was taken down by Design

So what about Mars.......

Around October 6, 2008 - 1 Mars year in Earth days prior to 'contact'

2 deadly Earthquakes:

An earthquake of magnitude 6.6 hits near the border between Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, killing 60 people.
Another earthquake of magnitude 6.4, with two magnitude-5 aftershocks, hits Damxung, Tibet, People's Republic of China, with conflicting casualty reports anywhere from 9 to 30 deaths.

As above, so below. At the same time WE were passing Mercury 'The Messenger'

but most important:

Be aware of the fact that August 23, 2010 is determined directly from the Tunguska event, with the Roswell crash at Phipoint

from the timeline Q3 2008

Asteroid Exploded in Earth's Atmosphere
By SPACE.com Staff

posted: 08 October 2008
01:26 pm ET


A small asteroid exploded over Africa this week following what astronomers said was the first firm prediction of an incoming space rock.

It did not strike Earth.

The asteroid was about the size of kitchen table, astronomers estimated, and they think the explosion (caused by the pressures of slamming into the atmosphere) left nothing but perhaps a few small bits to fall to the surface.

No photographs of the explosion have been reported, owing to the remote location of the object's path over Sudan. But the explosion was recorded by an infrasound array in Kenya. Peter Brown at the University of Western Ontario estimated, based on the infrasound data, that the asteroid exploded at 0243 UT with an energy of somewhere between 1.1 and 2.1 kilotons of TNT.

On Monday, NASA researchers and other scientists announced that the space rock, named 8TA9D69, would enter the air at 10:46 p.m. ET (0246 UT) on Oct. 7 over northern Sudan. Such events occur a few times every year, but never before had one been predicted. The object was expected to create a very bright fireball that, for anyone who might have seen it, would have been far more dramatic than the typical shooting star resulting when small debris streaks through Earth's atmosphere.

"A typical meteor comes from an object the size of a grain of sand," Gareth Williams of the Minor Planet Center explained just before the highly anticipated event. "This meteor will be a real humdinger in comparison!"

There has been one visual confirmation of the exploding fireball, according to Spaceweather.com. Jacob Kuiper, a general aviation meteorologist at the National Weather Service in The Netherlands, told pilots to keep an eye out.

"I have received confirmation that a KLM airliner, roughly 750 nautical miles southwest of the predicted atmospheric impact position, has observed a short flash just before the expected impact time 0246 UTC," Kuiper said. "Because of the distance it was not a very large phenomenon, but still a confirmation that some bright meteor has been seen in the predicted direction."

The rock was discovered by an ongoing survey at Mt. Lemmon run by the University of Arizona as part of the NASA-funded Catalina Sky Survey for near-Earth objects.

http://www.space.com/spacewatch/081008-asteroid-exploded.html

The MESSENGER spacecraft makes its second pass of the planet Mercury.

With these big Earth quakes at Mercury ( Chili) and Venus ( Eureka)orbittal positions marking this timeframe around August 23, it is Mars to unveil what this truly is about 'Tunguska':
quote:
A small asteroid exploded over Africa this week following what astronomers said was the first firm prediction of an incoming space rock.

It did not strike Earth.
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=9996&mforum=hddesign#9996

according to my understanding this means that:

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE WIL BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT'S POTENTIALLY OUT THERE AND WHEN , GIVING POSSIBILITY TO LESSEN ITS IMPACT BY TAKING OUR RESPONSIBILITIES.
STAY OUT OF SPACE, KEEP HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS EARTHBOUND AND DON'T FUCK WITH NUCLEAR POWER

At 3 Venus Years in earth days: October 18, 2008:

Meteorite crash suspected near Alice

Sat Oct 18, 2008

Police believe a meteorite crashed near Alice Springs on Friday night.

Residents at the remote Wallare Rock Hole Community report hearing a loud bang and feeling the ground shake at around 7:00pm local time.

Alice Springs Police have ruled out an aviation accident, saying authorities have accounted for all aircraft.

Watch Commander Senior Sergeant Malcolm Passmore says officers went to the community to investigate but did not find anything.

He says police will now talk to the US Seismic Activity Centre to see if it can provide any clues as to the meteorite's location.

"Some other follow-ups were done with the tower here at the Alice Springs airport and some further enquires are going to made here today with the seismic monitoring station here in Alice Springs," he said.

Mick Tickner from the Apatula Community Store describes seeing a spectacular light.

"[It] started off just a light trail as it passed across the sky and flared into a super brilliant gold and white light, and then looked like it was heading towards the Alice Springs area," he said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/10/18/2394700.htm

I think the next possibility for the Big One in the USA ( San Andreas ) is around Grandcross orbital position June 25, 2010, especially June 23

Venus at same orbital position as during Robert Enke committed suicide

repost from the 'Bautforum thread' in 'ongoing HDDesign threads area of HDDEsign forum:

[quote="Dutch"]Back to OJ

Suit Simpson wore to '95 acquittal will be offered to Smithsonian
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/03/02/simpson.suit/index.html

I decided to give it a look again and saw at wiki that OJ was born during the Roswell Crash timeframe: July 9, 1947

I dunno yet what to think...........but I gonna keep an eye on this especially in relation to the 'contact' timeframe around August 23, 2010 which is directly determined from the Roswell crah and the Tunguska Event[/quote]

As regular readers might recall, or those who were involved in the discussion on Baut forum back than: Its Mercury the Messenger unveiling the timecoded patterns in relation to this OJ case.

Now with this connection to 'Enki contact' communication I was curious what Mercury has to unveil in relatuion to this OJ - Nicole Brown drama.

Nicole was killed on June 12, 1994

I had to think of the German goal keeper Robert Encke ( ENKI ) who committed suicide last year on November 10, 2009

June 12, 1994 - November 10, 2009 = 5.630 days

Mercury The Messenger at same orbital position!

64 Mercury years in earth days is 64 * 87.9691 = 5.630 days

Its kind of creepy, these synchronicities that show up everywhere now in relation to this 'Enki communication'.

I thought to check the ascension triggerdate related to Robert Encke's suicide

It appears to be the start of the annually recurring 13 days Satanic period in 2005:

April 19, 2005

Papal conclave, 2005: Ringing bells and white smoke at the Vatican indicate that, after four ballots, a new Pope, German Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, has been elected. He has taken the regnal name Pope Benedict XVI.

[quote="Dreemz"]hmm, how "eerily" close his DOB April 16th and so close to 19th
start of the "13" Satanic Days...

Pope Benedict
Josef Ratzinger

www.wikipedia

Date of Birth: April 16, 1927, in Germany
Ordained priest: June 29, 1951
Consecrated Abp of Munich and Freising: March 25, 1977
Episcopal Ordination: May 28, 1977
Created Cardinal: June 27, 1977
Elected Pope: April 19, 2005[/quote]

This really gives me the chills....

first thought when I just read this is OJ's birthsday in relation to this 'Enki communication'

As I said earlier today.....Mercury The Messenger is unveiling

It shows up instantly, within a few seconds I logged in and read this post

April 16, 1927 - July 9, 1947 = 7.389 days

I Checked Mercury:

84 Mercury years in Earth days = 84 * 87.9691 days = 7.389 days

Mercury The Messenger at same orbittal position.

The 'Enki communication' in ongoing, keep an eye on the timelines

It wouldn't amaze me if a >7 EQ would happen around the last orbital position of Mercury marking 'contact': May 27, 2010

followed by a big EQ in the San Andreas area around Earth's orbital position of the Grand Cross: around June 26, 2010, with a possibility on June 23 too ( Venus at same orbital position as during Robert Ecke committed suicide )

I expect 'Contact' is around August 23, 2010, not by means of EQ, but more like somekind of 'Tunguska' 'conditioning'

Mount St. Helens/Yellowstone is expected for around HD Cube timeframe in November this year. That means EQ or volcanic activity, high impact or subtle.
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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quote:
Op dinsdag 2 maart 2010 20:16 schreef Boswachtertje het volgende:
In hoeverre is STRUG de moeite waard? Dutch of Unclescorp ervaring daarmee? Vraag het me toch telkens weer af, als ik weer op de site van Goro kom..

Ook maar weer eens verder lezen op HDD forum!
STRUG geeft volgens mij meer dagelijkse follow-up. "Gewone" lezers moeten nu maanden wachten op een nieuw artikel. En dat allemaal door ene Jake Kotze die met Goro's standpunten en werk ging lopen en op een eigen site presenteerde
Soit, ik twijfel ook al lang om me lid te maken van STRUG maar het is er nog steeds niet van gekomen. Maybe the time is right now

2010 belooft weer een bewogen jaar te worden
I understand how you feel. You see, it's all very clear to me now. The whole thing. It's wonderful.
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Het is 'Srebrenica karma' dat opnieuw zijn weg vind en het is inderdaad Venus-based en gekoppeld aan de 911 gebaseerde Phi spiraal in onze samenleving ( Fortuyn -van Gogh). Hans van Mierlo is overleden, ten tijde van het Srebrenica drama minister van Buitenlandse zaken. Hans van Mierlo heeft gezegd dat 'Srebrenica' hem altijd is blijven achtervolgen.

Het is 8 jaar en 13 venus jaren geleden dat het NIOD rapport inzake Srebrenica in vertrouwen overhandigd werd aan Minister President Wim kok. Het is een vergelijkbaar tijdsbestek als tussen de 2 Venus Transits van onze tijd.

Op het midden punt, vergelijkbaar met het Venus Transit midpoint, stierf Milosevic in zijn gevangenis in Scheveningen

Net als in 2002 hebben we weer een gevallen regering, een nieuwe Pim Fortuyn in de persoon van Geert Wilders, die net als Pim het goed deed bij de gemeente raad...

Pim werd vermoord op 6 mei

We beleven een karmische echo die door het overlijden van Hans van Mierlo benadrukt wordt.

Er gebeurd veel momenteel, op veel gebieden die voor het HDDesign 'onderzoek' van belangzijn voor de 'ontcijfering' van de 'communicatie' die plaats vind.

Ik heb geen tijd om alles the vertalen en/of cross-posten

hou de ontwikkelingen hier bij:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/index.php?mforum=hddesign

Updates volgen later weer
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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Hans van Mierlo, Dutch foreign minister at time of fall of Srebrenica, dies at age 78

Van Mierlo, who died late Thursday, was foreign minister in 1995 when outnumbered and outgunned Dutch peacekeepers looked on helplessly as Bosnian Serb forces overran the Srebrenica enclave in Bosnia and went on to massacre some 8,000 Muslim men.

May I remind you that Earth is at same orbital position as during Milosevic was taken out

That would be 'Milosevic' at midpoint on a similar timeframe as the timeframe between the 2 Venus Transits, with the exit of van Mierlo during the current timeframe we see the NIOD report handed over to PM Kok in mid March 2002 ( confidential):
quote:
half maart 2002 conclusies NIOD-rapport vertrouwelijk bekend bij Kok
see timeline here:
http://m.europa-nu.nl/9353000/1/j9vviaekvp0oeyh/vh8lnhrp8wsg


In April 2002, the Dutch government resigned after the publication of research into the events around the fall of the Bosnian enclave of Srebrenica, which was under the protection of Dutch peacekeepers, in 1995. Trade unions representing military personnel have called for the resignation of the army leadership at the time and for a parliamentary inquiry, which has now been launched.

In mid-April 2002, the government led by Prime Minister Wim Kok resigned following publication of the findings of research by the Dutch Institute for War Documentation (Nederland Instituut voor Oorlogsdocumentatie, NIOD) into the events surrounding the fall in 1995 of the Bosnian Muslim enclave of Srebrenica, which was being protected by Dutch peacekeeping troops, and the subsequent massacre of inhabitants. The government was a coalition of the social democratic Labour Party (Partij van de Arbeid, PvdA), the liberal Party for Freedom and Democracy (Vereniging voor Vrijheid en Democratie, VVD) and the social liberal Democraten 66 (D66).

Mr Kok had been Prime Minister at the time of the events in Srebrenica and, accepting responsibility for the consequences, resigned along with the rest of the cabinet, several of whom had also been in government at the time. A general election was already due to be held in May 2002, and until then the current government will remain in place in a caretaker capacity.

Although the cabinet's resignation stems from a will to accept political accountability, the report into the Srebrenica affair found that, while the ministers and secretaries of state were indeed responsible at a political level, the leadership of the army withheld relevant information from them with respect to Srebrenica. Consequently, the General Federation of Military Staff (Algemene Federatie van Militair Personeel, AFMP), the trade union for military personnel affiliated to the Dutch Trade Union Federation (Federatie Nederlandse Vakbeweging, FNV), is demanding that the army leadership responsible at the time should resign. The AFMP chair, Ton Heerts, is calling for the public prosecutor to investigate if the former commanding officer, Hans Couzy and the rest of the army leadership can be held liable under criminal law for the events that unfolded in Srebrenica in 1995.

According to the NIOD report, the truth about the Srebrenica situation was knowingly withheld by army officers. A deliberate attempt was made to restrict the amount of information disclosed and, where possible, to sweep aside disagreeable subjects. Commanding officer Couzy, the report states, destroyed his personal archives, despite knowing how important the information was at the time and would be later. According to the AFMP union, the deliberate actions of the former army leadership have tarnished the image of Dutchbat, the Dutch military contingent in Bosnia.

ACOM, the military services union affiliated to the Christian Trade Union Federation (Christelijk Nationaal Vakverbond, CNV), also believes that the conclusions of the NIOD report should have consequences for the military leadership. Their actions, ACOM claims, have left Dutchbat saddled with the blame, even though the lower-level military personnel cannot be accused of any wrongdoing. Dutchbat must be cleared of all blame.

The parliamentary inquiry demanded by the unions and deemed desirable by politicians has now been initiated by the latter, and a number of high-ranking military officers involved at the time have either resigned or been dismissed.
http://www.eurofound.euro(...)brief/nl0204105n.htm


A Mandate Yet to be Faithfully Executed

The Hague Tribunal was established to deliver justice and the historical record related to the crimes, (grave violations of international humanitarian law), committed during the conflict(s) in the lands of the former Yugoslavia. This United Nations Security Council, (UNSC), mandate shaped and adopted during my tenure as BiH’s Ambassador and Permanent Representative to the UN on behalf of the Republic of BiH, was not limited by either time or the nationality of those who might be investigated or prosecuted. Certainly there is no limiting of scope to the actions of the leaders or citizens of the former Yugoslav states alone. Nonetheless, it appears to many that the Tribunal has been steered clear of investigations that might expose culpability that is reflective on the big powers or potentially embarrassing, perhaps inconvenient.

And we should here remind of another mandate adopted by both the UNSC and NATO: to make Srebrenica, Zepa, Gorazde and three other BiH population centers into “safe areas” protected by UN peacekeepers on the ground and ultimately shielded by NATO air power from above, “protected zones”. While such mandate may have been made moot in the eyes of some when Srebrenica and Zepa were overrun, the basic legal responsibility cannot be extinguished until the UN and NATO complete an objective investigation as to whether these “safe areas” were undermined by premeditated and/or reckless action.

Netherlands’ Peacekeepers in Enclave Also Abandoned by Allies?

From almost the date of Srebrenica and Zepa’s fall, I have questioned and asked for answers. Then Dutch Defense Minister Jorvis Voorhoeve has now also put his suspicions clearly on the record, on the side of those demanding answers, (from October 22, 2009 BBC interview of Mr. Voorhoeve linked below):
“I know from intelligence sources that there were already Serb decisions to take the three Eastern enclaves among which was Srebrenica. Those decisions were taken probably in May and June – two months before.”

Joris Voorhoeve further alleges that the international community knew the attack was coming.

“Two security council members had knowledge that the attack was coming. I’m not saying they had knowledge the attack would be followed by mass murder. In any case they did not do anything with this knowledge.”

—–

On the eve before Srebrenica was to fall, I met with then Defense Minister Voorhoeve as well as then Foreign Minister Hans van Mierlo to urge them to confront the oncoming Serbian onslaught, (intelligence of which Voorhoeve had shared with me some weeks before). The Dutch UN peacekeeping troops in Srebrenica had to rely upon NATO air power to fend off any attack by Serbian military vastly superior in ground troops and weapons. (The local defense forces were largely disarmed with their heavy weapons placed under UN control). Of course, both the Srebrenica residents and Dutch peacekeepers were dependent upon a reliable response by UN and NATO commanders to turn the “dual key” launching the nearby NATO planes.

Staying in almost hourly communication, the night before the fall Voorhoeve called to inform me that he had in fact formally demanded NATO air support. He also announced the same decision to his Dutch citizens over live TV broadcast. The NATO air strikes never came, and the most critical question as to why not has never been answered for the benefit of the UN’s and NATO’s credibility as well as justice and the rights of the victims. Voorhoeve also claims that no credible answer has been provided:

“Why were his calls for air strikes the night before ignored? And why was there no action taken more than a month previously, when – according to Mr. Voorhoeve – the Serbs’ intentions to attack were known? (Same BBC interview linked below).

from: The implications of the Butcher’s trial
http://europeancourier.or(...)her%E2%80%99s-trial/

I think I have said it dozens of times, but to remind you:

eventually HDDesign will unveil who's responsible for this drama, besides the Dutch gouvernment. Air support was refused and that decission has been taken on authority.

The truth will come out...it HAS to come out

it IS Venus based!!! 8 years or 13 Venus years in earth days, the timeframe between the 2 Venus Transits of our times

To make it clear:

NIOD report about Srebrenica given to Prime Minister Wim Kok, mid March 2002

8 years later or 13 Venus years in Earth days or the timeframe between the 2 Venus transits of our times:

Hans van Mierlo dies, Minister of Foreighn Affairs at the time of the Srebrenica massacre. ( March 11, 2010 )

At midpoint or similar as on Venus Transit Midpoint:

Milosevic died in his prison in The Hague, The Netherlands ( March 11, 2006 )

This Srebrenica karma is 'expressing' again

Again we have a fallen gouvernment in The Netherlands. Pim Fortuyn was killed on May 6, 2002. Elections are coming up...
Geert Wilders could be considwered the new Pim Fortuyn.

We have to acknowledge our responsibily for the Srebrenica massacre or we will have to learn it the hard way.

Also: Who's responsible for the decission to refuse air support asked by the Dutch soldiers on the ground?

Hans van Mierlo in this interview:
http://www.binnenlandsbes(...)eest-aan.99481.lynkx
quote:
Tot op de dag van vandaag is nog steeds niet de diepste reden opgehelderd waarom die luchtsteun niet kwam - met sterke vermoedens dat er wellicht toch afspraken waren waarvan alleen Mladic en Janvier en misschien president Chirac afwisten.
This is about the air support that was refused so Dutch-bat was unable to defend Srebrenica. Hans van Mierlo expresses his ideas here that he thought there were indeed secret agreements between Mladic and Janvier and perhaps Jacques Chirac, French President during the Srebrenica Massacre.
quote:
'Ik heb die dag met iedereen gebeld: met Kofi Annan, met Akashi, de speciale VN-vertegenwoordiger in voormalig Joegoslavië, met mijn Europese collega's. Op een gegeven moment kwam er het wilde voorstel van Chirac om Srebrenica terug te veroveren. Dat heb ik namens het kabinet afgeschoten. Ik dacht: ben je nou helemaal gek. Niemand was daar trouwens voor, alleen Chirac. Het was zó onrealistisch dat ik me later afvroeg: is het ter compensatie van iets anders, heeft Chirac een soort schuldgevoel? Maar het is moeilijk om daarover te praten, want voor je het weet verval je in een beschuldiging die je niet kunt waarmaken.
Here he says that Chirac proposed to kick the serbs out of Srebrenica again. Everybody thought Chirac was nuts and Hans thought Chirac proposed this because of he felt guilty to what has happened in Srebrenica

This is a very interesting development.
quote:
To make it clear:

NIOD report about Srebrenica given to Prime Minister Wim Kok, mid March 2002

8 years later or 13 Venus years in Earth days or the timeframe between the 2 Venus transits of our times:

Hans van Mierlo dies, Minister of Foreighn Affairs at the time of the Srebrenica massacre. ( March 11, 2010 )

At midpoint or similar as on Venus Transit Midpoint:

Milosevic died in his prison in The Hague, The Netherlands ( March 11, 2006 )

This Srebrenica karma is 'expressing' again

Again we have a fallen gouvernment in The Netherlands. Pim Fortuyn was killed on May 6, 2002. Elections are coming up...
Geert Wilders could be considwered the new Pim Fortuyn.

We have to acknowledge our responsibily for the Srebrenica massacre or we will have to learn it the hard way.

Also: Who's responsible for the decission to refuse air support asked by the Dutch soldiers on the ground?
Jacques Chirac....Who's responsible?

I have said numerous times that these patterns will eventually unveil who's responsible for the Srebrenica Massacre.........

I thought that the 'echo' timeframe back in 2002 could give a hint....

The Srebrenica massacre started on July 11, 1995 with the fall of Srebrenica and lasted for several days of mass executions of Muslim man and boys.

During the Srebrenica Karma 'echo' of 2002, with Earth at the same orbital position as during the Srebrenica massacre, this has happened that indicates the answer to who else is responsible for the Srebrenica Massacre:

On 14 July 2002, during Bastille Day celebrations, Chirac survived an assassination attempt by a lone gunman with a rifle hidden in a guitar case. The would-be assassin fired a shot toward the presidential motorcade, before being overpowered by bystanders. The gunman, Maxime Brunerie, underwent psychiatric testing; the violent far-right group with which he was associated, Unité Radicale, was then administratively dissolved.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Chirac

HDDesign is stronger than any lie

Hans van Mierlo was right but he couldn't prove it.....HDDesign confirms though.

Synchronicity:

So we talk about the Srebrenica Karma 'echo' in 2002......

With Earth at the same orbital poition in 2002 of the start of this Srebrenica drama:

On July 10, 2002:

At a Sotheby's auction, Peter Paul Rubens' painting "The Massacre of the Innocents" (first version) is sold for £49.5million (US$76.2 million) to Kenneth Thomson, 2nd Baron Thomson of Fleet.

Massacre of the Innocents
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Massacre_of_the_Innocents

Srebrenica Karma:

May 5, 2002 – In the second round of the French presidential election, Jacques Chirac is reelected.
May 6, 2002 – In the Netherlands, politician Pim Fortuyn is assassinated.

Mladic is still out there because there are responsible people who don't want him to testify.....
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_79201307
Rosetta Flies By "Something" Very Strange ....
from the enterprisemission:
http://www.enterprisemiss(...)ta-analysis-test.htm
quote:
Based on the results of our completely independent research, I would say Alford's "exploded planet cult ... " is quite alive and well ... and, among other places, living "high off the taxpayers" both in NASA and in ESA ....

Looking at this remarkable Rosetta comparison (above), one is definitely struck by the eerie resemblance between "the inanimate architecture of an ancient, massive platform ... flying through space ..." and the features of a living symbol ... "a falcon metaphor for a far more ancient inanimate form ... known formally as 'the distant one' ... flying through the skies of Ancient Egypt ...."

That such a mythological overlay is more than "coincidental," is the thesis of much of Alford's work: which is, that the ancient mythological images and "textual codes" underlying all Egyptian Civilization (such as those attached to "Horus"... ) and the Sumerian's equally striking "sky imagery," are actually metaphorical "explanations" of potentially real, incredibly ancient personages and events ... from that long-lost period of pre and post cataclysm solar-system history ...."

And Horus was, of course, the son of OSIRIS.

What better that "an OSIRIS camera" ... to take "his" close-up imagery now ...?

If Ancient Egypt was the "metaphorical map" of people and events from an even more "unimaginable time ..." -- endlessly relived and replayed in the mythology of much more "recent" ancient civilizations here on Earth -- this could well answer our key question:

How did ESA KNOW before they sent the mission ... that Steins was, in actuality, an artificial platform!?

Answer:

Because of the current existence of Alford's "exploded planet cult ..." which (again, somehow ...) provided ESA with access to far more ancient (and far less "ambiguous" ...) solar system information ...

Perhaps in the form of carefully preserved texts ... even actual images (!) ....

Whatever form this information took, it apparently (judging by the results) faithfully recorded snippets of real "ancient solar system events ..." and even incredibly useful navigation data, such as possibly ... exact ephemerides (locations ...) of some surviving ancient spacecraft orbiting the Sun ... masquerading as "mere asteroids" even now ....
If any of this speculation is true ... it could finally, neatly, explain the otherwise "almost impossible-to-understand" overall Rosetta Mission Plan ... the "extended, tortuous course" that ESA (claimed it) was forced to send Rosetta on ... just to reach "its" back-up comet, Comet 67P/Churyumov- Gerasimenko.

In truth, because Steins currently orbits "ten degrees above the solar system plane ...", any clandestine mission would HAVE HAD to involve such a critical set of complex maneuvers after leaving Earth ... all to effect THAT crucial, unavoidable "plane change" to reach Steins' orbit.

And, "plane changes" in interplanetary travel are EXTREMELY expensive -- in terms of fuel.

So, if Steins was the Primary Mission all along, then the selection of a second comet, ALSO orbiting well above the solar system plane, was ESSENTIAL to the cover story ... with one big loophole--

If an "alternate comet" was needed as a target (after "Comet Wirtanen" had been originally selected and then scrapped, forced by the delay) ... why did ESA choose another comet ALSO in "a highly inclined orbit?" Every extra day spent on the ground, after being fabricated, was an extra day on which some onboard random electronic system could literally break down (fail ...) -- resulting potentially in a later mission loss!

So--

Why add EXTRA, "risky" time (~11 years ...) -- hundreds of millions of extra miles traveling through space, looping past planets ... once ... twice ... three times! -- all, just to rendezvous with another "highly-inclined comet" (Wirtanen has an inclination of almost 12 degrees ...)?

When--

Much more accessible comets orbit much closer to the central solar system plane ...?!

Instead of eleven years ... such an alternative "in plane" comet rendezvous could have been achieved in just a couple years ....

So, why add the highly risky "extra time" ...?

Unless you HAD to--

In order, in a MOST undercover way ... to fly-by Steins!
As I have explained earlier with the 'communication' post, Pi seems to be expressed with these 'events' in space:

In order to 'express' Pi between 2 events you have to devide the timeframe in between twice with Pi. Than you have to deduct that result from the timeframe and devide the remaining by 2. Add the result to one of this halfs and you get 2 points in between that express Pi together.

read this post here first:
'Communication'
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=9548&mforum=hddesign#9548

As it was Pi day last Sunday I thought to check the awakenings trigger date that appears to be around September 5, 2008 and I posted it here on Monday at HDDesign forum:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=10233&mforum=hddesign#10233

Whit this I was reminded about the Rosetta flyby again and I decided to read the Enterprise article about this very strange object in space

Richard Hoagland said:
quote:
such as possibly ... exact ephemerides (locations ...) of some surviving ancient spacecraft orbiting the Sun ... masquerading as "mere asteroids" even now ...
At this point I thought to give Asteroid Steins a closer look and because it was Pi day that made me check the triggerdates, i decided to apply the Pi-correlation as first unveiled with the spacecraft 'Deep Impact' related events in space as explained in the 'communication' post.

Steins orbit is 1326,736 Earth days

1326,7 / Pi / Pi = 134.4 Earth days

1327,7 - 134,4 = 1192,3 Earth days

The 2 Pi points are

1192,3 / 2 = 596,2 Days

and

596,1 +134, 4 = 730,5 Earth days

THAT'S EXACTLY 2 EARTH YEARS OR THE SAME ORBITAL POSTION OF EARTH.

EXACTLY IN THE SAME WAY AS WITH THIS 'DEEP IMPACT COMMUNICATION' AS SHOWN HERE IN THE HDDESIGN MATERIAL

In other words:

[size=18]Earth's orbit is encoded in Steins orbit by Pi[/size]

Whatever Steins really is, or what has happened to it, fact is that Steins is now orbitting our Sun with an orbit that marks our own Earth's orbit in an Intelligent way.


So now that the 2 Pi points are determined as a timeframe of 596 and 730 days, we shoulg keep an eye on these timeframes in relation to Rosetta's fly by of 'asteroid' Steins.

That means 596 and 730 days after the flyby is April 24, 2010 and September 5, 2010 and I will put these 2 dates on the timelines of Q2 and Q3 2010

With 1 of the Pi points marking Earth's orbit, I decided to give the otherone a closer look : This timeframe of 596 days prior to Rosetta's fly by gives around January 18, 2007

That timeframe was mentioned on the timeline first half 2007:

quote:
January 18, 2007 - Deep Impact on a 911 based inspiralling (563 days)
Dwarf planet 'becoming a comet'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6268799.stm
Deep Impact Galactica, posted on January 18: http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/deepimpact-galactica.htm
another Deep Impact event in space:
China Tests Anti-Satellite Weapon
http://quickstart.clari.net/voa/art/fj/2007-01-18-voa73.html
China test sparks space arms fears
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6278867.stm
Concern over China's missile test
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6276543.stm
US demands answers on China test
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6281247.stm
The Pi dates are mentioned on the timelines here:

Q2 2010: http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about401-hddesign.html

Q3 2010: http://hddesign.forumup.nl/about408-hddesign.html

note that aother 'strange object' shows up around January 18, 2007:

Dwarf planet 'becoming a comet'

An unusual dwarf planet discovered in the outer Solar System could be en route to becoming the brightest comet ever known.


Artist's impression: 2003 EL61 is a strange object
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6268799.stm
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_79244349
quote:
An unusual dwarf planet discovered in the outer Solar System could be en route to becoming the brightest comet ever known.

2003 EL61 is a large, dense, rugby-ball-shaped hunk of rock with a fast rotation rate.

--snip--

But it is extremely unusual: spinning on its axis every four hours, it has developed an elongated shape.
from the link in the previous post:
Dwarf planet 'becoming a comet'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6268799.stm

extremely unusual?

I thought to give Rosetta's final destination a look:

Comet 67/C-G

Sixty-one images of comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko were taken with the Wide Field Planetary Camera 2 on board the Hubble Space Telescope on 11-12 March 2003. The HST's sharp vision enabled astronomers to isolate the comet's nucleus from the coma. The images showed that the nucleus measures five by three kilometres and has an ellipsoidal (rugby ball) shape. It rotates once in approximately 12 hours.
"Although 67P/C-G is roughly three times larger than the original Rosetta target, its elongated shape should make landing on its nucleus feasible, now that measures are in place to adapt the lander package to the new configuration before next year's launch," said Dr. Philippe Lamy of the Laboratoire d'Astronomie Spatiale in France.

http://doublestar.esa.int(...).cfm?fobjectid=14615
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  woensdag 17 maart 2010 @ 10:55:41 #173
1872 Jumparound
bedankt voor de vis
pi_79245991
Waarom is het "extremely unusual"?
Er zijn miljoenen, zoniet miljarden planeetachtigen in de oortwolk en dichter bij huis.
Uiteraard zal er eens 1 richitng het centrum van het zonnestelsel worden geslingerd.

Daarnaast duurt het nog heeeeeeeeeeeel lang voordat boven genoemde planetoide "hier" aankomt. Een miljoen jaar als ik het goed gelezen heb.
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
pi_79250485
het is de vorm en rotatie die door BBC / science als extreem ongewoon wordt betiteld zoals je kan lezen in het BBC artikel. Het gaat om de timing van dit soort info die die zomaar uit het niets ineens opduikt in het HDDesign materiaal. En 67P/C-G heeft precies zo'n vorm en rotatie.
Ik merk aan jouw reactie dat er geen snars van begrijpt. Het is ook moeilijk maar concentreer je dan op zijn minst op de 'toevalligheden' en de onderliggende samenhang
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_79250511
quote:
At this point I thought to give Asteroid Steins a closer look and because it was Pi day that made me check the triggerdates, i decided to apply the Pi-correlation as first unveiled with the spacecraft 'Deep Impact' related events in space as explained in the 'communication' post.

Steins orbit is 1326,736 Earth days

1326,7 / Pi / Pi = 134.4 Earth days

1327,7 - 134,4 = 1192,3 Earth days

The 2 Pi points are

1192,3 / 2 = 596,2 Days

and

596,1 +134, 4 = 730,5 Earth days

THAT'S EXACTLY 2 EARTH YEARS OR THE SAME ORBITAL POSTION OF EARTH.

EXACTLY IN THE SAME WAY AS WITH THIS 'DEEP IMPACT COMMUNICATION' AS SHOWN HERE IN THE HDDESIGN MATERIAL

In other words:

[size=18]Earth's orbit is encoded in Steins orbit by Pi[/size]

Whatever Steins really is, or what has happened to it, fact is that Steins is now orbitting our Sun with an orbit that marks our own Earth's orbit in an Intelligent way.
So the Pi point of Steins' orbit is determined as 730.5 Earth days or exactly 2 Earth years of 365.25 days

After the flyby of 'asteroid' Steins the Rosetta spacecraft continued its mission and next event on its mission was an Earth flyby on its way towards asteroid Lutetia.

This Earth flyby happened on November 13, 2009 and was the last of 4 planet flyby's of rosetta spacecraft.

The previous flyby ( the third) happened on November 13, 2007!!!!

exactly 2 Earth years!!!!


Rosetta is confirming this Intelligent Pi based correlation between Earth and Stein's orbits right after its encounter with Steins by an Earth Flyby exactly 2 years later than the previous one, exactly the same timeframe as based on the Pi point of Steins' orbit.

This is the same Pi based Design as with the Deep Impact/Epoxi mission and the lunar impact mission, as identified and explained in the HDDesign material with previous posts.

With these 'manmade' events in space as expressed with rosetta spacecraft, we are 'communicating' that the Intelligent correlations with Earth in relation to Steins are understood.

Its so obvious and clear....and its shows up in the HDDesign material just like that, instantly after an initial synchronicity....again showing that 'we' are 'communicating' with our current missions in space based on the same identified Geometry as with the Deep Impact and Lunar Impact missions.....its so profound......

To think that this is just a coincidense is insane

This is '2010 the year that we make contact'......

and we are 'talking', whether we are aware of it or not
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  woensdag 17 maart 2010 @ 13:48:22 #176
1872 Jumparound
bedankt voor de vis
pi_79252578
quote:
Op woensdag 17 maart 2010 12:50 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
het is de vorm en rotatie die door BBC / science als extreem ongewoon wordt betiteld zoals je kan lezen in het BBC artikel.
quote:
But it is extremely unusual: spinning on its axis every four hours, it has developed an elongated shape.
Jaja, extremely unusual indeed. In mijn ogen raar maar als je kijkt naaar de enorme hoeveelheid planetoiden die er zijn niet meer dan logisch.
quote:
Het gaat om de timing van dit soort info die die zomaar uit het niets ineens opduikt in het HDDesign materiaal.
Vind je het erg als ik je connectie omzeep help door te zeggen dat de meeste hits op 17 januarie zijn!
quote:
The 2007 Chinese anti-satellite missile test was conducted by China on January 11
om er nog maar 1 aan te halen.
dat is 1 tot 6 dagen naast jou datum van 18 januari. Wat je Pi geen goed doet.
quote:
En 67P/C-G heeft precies zo'n vorm en rotatie.
Als ze beter onderzoek konden doen naar cometen zouden ze er misschien nog wel meer vinden.
quote:
Ik merk aan jouw reactie dat er geen snars van begrijpt.
Ik merk aan je topic dat je een beetje wereldvreemd beeld hebt van de wereld buiten je pc
quote:
Het is ook moeilijk maar concentreer je dan op zijn minst op de 'toevalligheden' en de onderliggende samenhang
Poging gedaan tot. Helaas kom ik met mijn beperkt wereldbeeld niet verder dan dit. Helaas, sorry dutch
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
  woensdag 17 maart 2010 @ 13:54:26 #177
1872 Jumparound
bedankt voor de vis
pi_79252863
quote:
Op woensdag 17 maart 2010 12:51 schreef Dutch. het volgende:


and we are 'talking', whether we are aware of it or not
Dit in het bijzonder vind ik een rare opmerking.
quote:
With these 'manmade' events in space as expressed with rosetta spacecraft, we are 'communicating' that the Intelligent correlations with Earth in relation to Steins are understood.
?
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
pi_79275704
quote:
Poging gedaan tot. Helaas kom ik met mijn beperkt wereldbeeld niet verder dan dit. Helaas, sorry dutch
geeft niet
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  donderdag 18 maart 2010 @ 09:14:38 #179
1872 Jumparound
bedankt voor de vis
pi_79284171
quote:
Op woensdag 17 maart 2010 22:29 schreef Dutch. het volgende:

[..]

geeft niet
gelukkig maar
Inorbit: zeg dat dan typluie triangeljosti
Beauregard: Een beetje FOK!ker laat het brood door z'n moeder smeren.
Ecosia
ek's 'n flash drive, jy's 'n floppy
pi_79298166
Ik snap wat je aan het doen bent en probeert te bereiken. Keep up the good work
Have fun...
pi_79301848
Iik begrijp dat het concept achter HDD bestaat uit het leggen van verbanden tussen zaken die ogenschijnlijk geen verband met elkaar hebben en voor de leek bestaand uit "toeval", gebaseerd op specifieke tijdsintervallen (Venus transits en aarde transits heb ik voorbij zien komen) met daarbij Pi-bepalingen.

Vraagje daarbij: in deze hele verhandeling zie ik meerdere "tijdspaden" behandeld worden, die echter verder qua tijd geen invloed op elkaar hebben (dus "los van elkaar staan", als je me begrijpt). Hoe zit dat met "paden" (als ik ze zo even mag noemen) die wel op dezelfde tijd plaatsvinden, maar feitelijk los staan van elkaar? Hoe hou je die uit elkaar? En hoe weet je welke gebeurtenis bij welk tijdpad hoort?
True strength is not a measure of the body,
It's a measure of the soul.
pi_79314496
Door te observeren, niet heel even maar continue

het kostte mij meer dan een jaar om te beseffen dat 2 ogenschijnlijk aparte tijdsgecodeerde patronen in feite uiting gaven aan dezelfde onderliggende thema's en grepen uiteindelijk ook in elkaar ( "Balkan karma Venus based' en '911 Phi- based timecoded spiral in Dutch society.
Ook tussen Hariri en Sharon besef ik pas dit jaar de connectie, terwijl ik er al jaren mee bezig ben

Het is belangrijk om goed te observeren. Dat betekend niet eindeloos informatie tot je nemen, gewoon de synchroniteiten volgen als deze zich voor doen dat volgt het vanzelf
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_79392075
The HDdesign forum was down for 2 days and I need some info from it in order to explain the next 'development' that I am about to share next week.

It has everything to do with 1111 and confirmative to HDdesign in relation to the deepest essence of our existence
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
pi_79447123
In order to understand the underlying Design you have to make sure that you have read what has already been posted. I won't repost it now because it will make the post too big
You can start here with this post in the 'breaking The Code' thread ( login 'reader' password 'reader'):
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/viewtopic.php?p=8969&mforum=hddesign#8969
or you can even go further back in time by clicking on the link on top of that post, it will bring you to the first related info.

What we have seen is, that NASA was 'communicating' by expressing Pi with its Deep Impact/Epoxi mission, when the mission continued after Deep Impact on comet Temple I.

This very same Pi expression showed up again with the flight 522 crash correlations as explained in previous posts and its clear to me that this Pi expresion is the major element in the 'Deep Impact' related Design of our times.

This very same Pi expression showed up again with the Rosetta spacecraft flyby of 'Steins', unveiling that Earth's orbit is encoded in Steins' orbit by this very same Pi expression.

Rosetta is confirming this Intelligent Pi based correlation between Earth and Stein's orbits right after its encounter with Steins by an Earth Flyby exactly 2 years later than the previous one, exactly the same timeframe as based on the Pi point of Steins' orbit.

As explained in previous posts, NASA started to 'communicate' this very same Pi expression with the continued Deep Impact/Epoxi mission after the impact on comet Temple I.

But was it a deliberate 'communication' or a sub-conscious one?

It could very well be that NASA found out that the Impact on comet Temple I wasn't a good idea and additional review of the Rosetta mission unveiled the hidden Design with Steins as explained here in the HDDesign material.

If that's the case, NASA copied this Pi- based Design encoded in Earth and Steins orbit into the continued Deep Impact/Epoxi spacemission, scheduling and communicating a comet encounter with Hartley II that expresses this very same Pi corralation, but that will never actually take place.

but......

Rosetta was already launched prior to Deep Impact on comet Temple I !!

and its mission was already determined, including the Earth flyby's marking this Earth-Steins Pi correlation.

So NASA already new, or NASA isn't consciously aware of this hidden Underlying Deisgn.

Deep Impact on comet Temple I is one of the major themes in HDdesign

When I first started to do this 'research' back in 2004, the first identified element of Intelligent Hyper Dimensional Design was the 1111 days awakenings timeframe.
This 1111 days awakeningstimeframe on Earth is Golden Mean Phi connected to Mars ( spiralling inwards ) and Venus ( spiralling outwards), with Mercury marking the start- and end triggerdates of an 1111 days timeframe. This way the 1111 days timeframe connects all the innerplanets in an Intelligent way.

The HDDesign material has since unveiled that the 'Tunguska' event should be considered to be a warning in relation to what we did to comet Temple I and the use of nuclear weapons, as explained in previous posts.

When I decided to give the orbit of Steins a closer look last week, it was the first time I ever did so. The hidden Intelligent correlation instantly showed up: as we have seen the orbit of Steins was linked to Earth's orbit by the very same Pi based Design as expressed with the continued Deep Impact/Epoxi spacemission.

I thought if Steins is 'Intelligent', than Temple I might be 'Intelligent' too as the impact on comet Temple I ( first temple for the esotherica) is playing such an important role in the awakenings process as unveiled in this HDDesign material

I decided to apply the very same Pi connection on the orbit of comet Temple I and the confirmation is overwhelming:

The Pi point of comet Temple I is at 1111 Earth days

We must take the 'communication' around the impact on comet Temple I very serious.

and we all have a shared responsibility in this
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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Dutch, heb je een idee waar Steins nog meer aan gelinkd is? Wellicht laat het design het nog niet volledig zien, maar heb je door je ervaring een vermoeden welke kant dit op gaat?
Have fun...
  maandag 22 maart 2010 @ 17:45:07 #186
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Dutch., waarom schrijf jij soms in het Engels en soms in het Nederlands en soms zelfs die 2 talen door elkaar
Op dinsdag 11 januari 2011 13:20 schreef Bastard het volgende:
Je lijkt af en toe wel een kind dat alles maar roept wat in je hoofd opkomt!
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quote:
Op maandag 22 maart 2010 17:45 schreef JoepiePoepie het volgende:
Dutch., waarom schrijf jij soms in het Engels en soms in het Nederlands en soms zelfs die 2 talen door elkaar
Omdat hij normaal op zijn Engels forum post en die hierheen kopieert met NL commentaar
Have fun...
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Is it perhaps possible that the visionairs and profets of ancient times 'saw' our current times and translated them into understandable language of the ancient times, so that we in fact are creating the myths of our past?

After I had discovered the 1111 days awakenings timeframe encoded with the Pi based Design in the orbit of comet Tempel 1, and its esoteric/religious implications as the First Tempel, I wanted to give it a closer look. As usual, I just followed the synchronicities when they occured and I logged it realtime on HDDesign forum in between my normal daily activities.

I took a look again at Comet Temple 1 ( First Temple).

Freed from the 3 ( or 4) dimensional boundaries of time and tuned in on our collective consciousness, this visionair of our ancient past would understand this to be a snake in the heavens.



Serpent (symbolism)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_(symbolism)

As above, so below

Where there's a First Tempel, there must be a Second Tempel.....and here it is:

The Second Temple was discovered with Earth at the very same orbital position as the 'destruction' of the First Temple

July 4

10P/Tempel, also known as Tempel 2, is a periodic comet in our solar system

Discovery date: July 4, 1873

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10P/Tempel

Last perihelion of comet Tempel 2 : February 15, 2005

ASSASSINATION OF RAFIK HARIRI

Next perihelion: July 4, 2010

EARTH'S ORBITAL POSITION OF 'DESTRUCTION' OF THE FIRST TEMPEL AND DISCOVERY OF THE SECOND TEMPEL

ofcourse July 4, 2010 has been added to the timeline of Q3 2010 for the S4econd Temple but also this date on the timeline for Q1 2011 for the First Tempel:

January 11, 2011 - Next Perihelion comet Temple 1 ( first Tempel), exactly 1 Temple 1- year in Earth days after Deep Impact.
Indeed: Deep Impact was on the last Perihelion ( closest point to the sun on the orbit of comet Tempel 1 ) on July 4, 2005

comet Tempel 1:
Last perihelion: July 5, 2005
Next perihelion: January 11, 2011

The Temple in Jerusalem or Holy Temple ( "House of the Holy"), refers to one of a series of structures located on the Temple Mount in the old city of Jerusalem. Historically, two temples stood at this location and functioned as the centre of ancient Jewish worship. According to classical Jewish belief, the Temple acted as the figurative "footstool" of God's presence and a Third Temple will be built there in the future.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w(...)t_and_Second_Temples
As above - so below.....

Take the synchronicities serious.......

Let's place the second Tempel upon the first one.....

Let's do it

As above, so below

The Second Tempel is 'build/placed upon the First Tempel'

The very same Pi based Design as shown in the previous posts is applied and the Deep Impact on July 4, 2005 is on the first Pi point.

The orbit of this 'rebuild Second Tempel' unveils the encoded 'communication'.

Start: around February 1, 2003
First Pi Point: around July 4, 2005 Deep Impact on comet Tempel I
Second Pi point: around January 17, 2006
End: around June 20, 2008

As above, so Below....

On February 1, 2003 manmade Space Shuttle Columbia disintegrates during reentry

Around January 17, 2006: NASA's Stardust mission successfully ends, the first to return dust from a comet. The sample material capsule from Stardust returned to Earth on January 15, 2006 in Utah's Great Salt Lake desert, near the U.S. Army Dugway Proving Ground. ( Dugway Proving Ground is called "Area 52" ).

The importance of this system of timelines in the HDDesign material becomes more and more clear:

June 20, 2008 was on the timeline of Q2 2008 and it was already identified as a 'Deep Impact' timeframe.

Take a look at that timeframe again:
quote:
June 20, 2008 - Mercury 'the Messenger' at same 'geometrical' position as during the awakenings endtriggerdate of 'Deep Impact'.
possibly 'exit of Sun King' theme related
Also
Mercury 'The Messenger' at same position as during the awakenings endtriggerdate of the end of the Mayan Calendar.

Meteorite could hold solar clues
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7464583.stm

Surprisingly Rapid Changes In Earth’s Core Discovered
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080619102553.htm

Mars lander finds bits of ice, scientists say
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)x.mars.ap/index.html

Proof! Water Ice Found on Mars
http://www.space.com/scie(...)enix-ice-update.html

Pentagon says its on trail of missing nuclear components
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/(...)nuclear-7e07afd.html
US taps Lithuania as alternative to Poland for missile shield plan
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/(...)ilitary-7e07afd.html
U.S. says exercise by Israel seemed directed at Iran
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/20/america/20iran.php

The mystery story of the Maya slowly reveals new twists
http://www.usatoday.com/t(...)-22-maya-kiuic_N.htm

Life in Earth's toughest places; how about Mars?
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)xtreme.ap/index.html

Ice on Mars an important breakthrough
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/earth/2008/06/22/scinasa222.xml

since we are talking about Mars here apparently: Nagasaki & Deep Impact, uts all here:
Mars' two-faced riddle 'solved' http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7473128.stm

Mars lander finds soil 'friendly' to life
http://edition.cnn.com/20(...)x.mars.ap/index.html

Martian soil appears able to support life
http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSN2634952620080626
Will religion end on Mars?
http://economictimes.indi(...)icleshow/3169948.cms
Will NASA Ever Find Life on Mars?
[url=http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080627-mars-life-question.html
]http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080627-mars-life-question.html[/quote][/url]

Cosmic dust brought to Earth artificially......life on Mars.....Deep Impact on Comet tempel I ......deintegration of Space Shuttle Columbia....

There's a story being told here

Stardust in relation to the First and Second Tempel.....

As Above, so below......

After Stardust released its capsule with cosmic dust to Earth, its mission officially ended.

But Stardust was still in space and with Earth at the same orbital position again as during Deep Impact on the First tempel, another mission was approved for Stardust:

On July 3, 2007 a second mission for Stardust was approved to revisit the comet Tempel 1!!!!!!!!

In July 3, 2007 this extended mission was approved, under the designation of New Exploration of Tempel 1 (NExT). This investigation will provide the first look at the changes to a comet nucleus produced after its close approach to the sun. NExT also will extend the mapping of Tempel 1, making it the most mapped comet nucleus to date. This mapping will help address the major questions of comet nucleus "geology" raised by images of areas where it appears material might have flowed like a liquid or powder. NExT is scheduled to fly by Tempel 1 on February 14, 2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stardust_(spacecraft)

Stardus visiting the First Tempel ona February 14??

And here we see the 'confirmation' with the Second Tempel showing up.

February 14 is Earth's very same orbital position as during the Last perihelion of comet Tempel 2 : February 15, 2005 ( Hariri )

And as we've already seen: Tempel 2 with its next perihelion on July 4, 2010, on Earth's very same orbital position as during Deep Impact on Tempel 1

The hidden underlying Design should be evident to everyone
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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The 'Contact' theme is monitored on HDDesign forum and the related future dates are already mentioned on the timelines

updated April 14:

The concurrence of all three of these independent Mars Express experiments -- "imaging" ... "internal mass distribution" (tracking) ... and "internal radar imaging" -- ALL now agreed that "the interior of Phobos is 'partially hollow ... with internal, repeating, MAJOR geometric "voids" inside it ....'"

Meaning that--

Phobos IS "artificial!"


From the 'enterprisemission':
For the World is Hollow ... and I Have Touched the Sky!
http://www.enterprisemission.com/Phobos.html

HDDesign forum:
http://hddesign.forumup.nl/index.php?mforum=hddesign
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
  woensdag 14 april 2010 @ 14:53:55 #190
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Dutch., ik heb nou al meerdere van die posts van jou gelezen en ik wil graag weten of er ooit al zo'n 'voorspelling' uitgekomen is? En zo ja, hoe weet je dat dan? Want die teksten die je schrijft zijn zo vaag, er is niks concreets in te lezen .

Verzin je die 'voorspellingen' eigenlijk zelf of heb je ze van iemand anders?
Op dinsdag 11 januari 2011 13:20 schreef Bastard het volgende:
Je lijkt af en toe wel een kind dat alles maar roept wat in je hoofd opkomt!
pi_80307274
Uit een bericht van hem op 2 maart:
quote:
It wouldn't amaze me if a >7 EQ would happen around the last orbital position of Mercury marking 'contact': May 27, 2010

followed by a big EQ in the San Andreas area around Earth's orbital position of the Grand Cross: around June 26, 2010, with a possibility on June 23 too ( Venus at same orbital position as during Robert Ecke committed suicide )
Dat zijn nogal harde voorspellingen, dus ik ben benieuwd ...
True strength is not a measure of the body,
It's a measure of the soul.
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quote:
Op woensdag 14 april 2010 11:48 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
From the 'enterprisemission':
For the World is Hollow ... and I Have Touched the Sky!
http://www.enterprisemission.com/Phobos.html
Ik heb dat artikel gelezen, maar wat schrijft die man irritant zeg! De . -toets op zijn keyboard slijt denk ik het hardst.

Maar inhoudelijk wel interessant. Was er ook niet een voorspelling van Nostradamus dat we ergens rond deze tijd kunstmatige waterbekkens zouden ontdekken op Mars?
True strength is not a measure of the body,
It's a measure of the soul.
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"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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Lol, ik denk het nog even niet. Als ik die link klik, krijg ik dit:
quote:
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True strength is not a measure of the body,
It's a measure of the soul.
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Vaag.. een uurtje of wat geleden had ik em nog open..
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Het is niet allen dat artikel van Richard Hoagland, het is de hele site van de Enterprisemission.com die eruit ligt. Vanmorgen was de site gewoon in de lucht, nog niet de tijd voor 'disclosure' zeker
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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quote:
Op woensdag 14 april 2010 14:53 schreef JoepiePoepie het volgende:
Dutch., ik heb nou al meerdere van die posts van jou gelezen en ik wil graag weten of er ooit al zo'n 'voorspelling' uitgekomen is? En zo ja, hoe weet je dat dan? Want die teksten die je schrijft zijn zo vaag, er is niks concreets in te lezen .

Verzin je die 'voorspellingen' eigenlijk zelf of heb je ze van iemand anders?
In principe gaat het niet over exacte voorspellingen maar meer over onderliggende thema's die op bepaalde tijdsgecodeerde momenten tot uitdrukking kunnen komen. Intuitie en synchroniteiten zijn leidend in de ontcijfering van de verborgen onderliggende patronen. Een aantal posts is niet voldoende om enig inzicht te verkrijgen
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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quote:
Op donderdag 15 april 2010 21:12 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
Het is niet allen dat artikel van Richard Hoagland, het is de hele site van de Enterprisemission.com die eruit ligt. Vanmorgen was de site gewoon in de lucht, nog niet de tijd voor 'disclosure' zeker
De site is weer online.. ff Phobos lezen...
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hou in je achterhoofd dat Richard een vergelijking maakt met Steins, waarvan de orbit intelligent gerelateerd is met de aarde middels Pi zoals beschreven in voorgaande berichten hier in het HDDesign materiaal.

edit: ik ga daar nog een update over schrijven, ook in relatie tot het einde van de Mayan Long Count.
"There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance."
Albert Einstein
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quote:
Op donderdag 15 april 2010 23:16 schreef Dutch. het volgende:
hou in je achterhoofd dat Richard een vergelijking maakt met Steins, waarvan de orbit intelligent gerelateerd is met de aarde middels Pi zoals beschreven in voorgaande berichten hier in het HDDesign materiaal.

edit: ik ga daar nog een update over schrijven, ook in relatie tot het einde van de Mayan Long Count.
Oke, klinkt goed. Waar kan ik wat meer vinden over het werk van Steins? Wellicht dat ik er al bekend mee ben, maar het komt me momenteel niet bekend voor..

Thnx in advance.. keep it coming

Phobos verhaal is zeker interessant! Eens kijken wat er in WFL over gezegd wordt ter vergelijking!
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