De Beursvloer #8: 5e grootste dagwinst ooit voor AEX

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Op woensdag 29 oktober 2008 16:16 schreef star_gazer het volgende:

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De dow staat voorlopig nog in de min en de US is niet op nieuw oorlogspad. Compleet andere situatie dus.

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Op woensdag 29 oktober 2008 16:16 schreef star_gazer het volgende:

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De dow staat voorlopig nog in de min en de US is niet op nieuw oorlogspad. Compleet andere situatie dus.

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Op woensdag 29 oktober 2008 16:24 schreef star_gazer het volgende:
AEX TS 259. Wie durft met een stand van 257

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Op woensdag 29 oktober 2008 16:25 schreef ItaloDancer het volgende:

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ik wacht af richting het slot denk ik

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Op woensdag 29 oktober 2008 15:56 schreef PietjePuk007 het volgende:
Groenink wil commissaris worden bij Fortis / ABN .

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Op woensdag 29 oktober 2008 16:27 schreef star_gazer het volgende:

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En dan instappen in de hoop op tegenvallend nieuws uit de VS. Mits hij nog loopt op het slot. Een positieve opening betekent alleen wel vrijwel zeker dat je alles kwijt bent

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Op woensdag 29 oktober 2008 16:45 schreef star_gazer het volgende:
Hmm... Ben je dan niet bang voor een short squeeze aan het einde van de dag?

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Op woensdag 29 oktober 2008 16:56 schreef star_gazer het volgende:
TS 259 nu op 0,90. We zitten echt bijna op de SL

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Op woensdag 29 oktober 2008 17:36 schreef ItaloDancer het volgende:
Is die TS er nu eigenlijk aan met een 259+ slot, maar wel in de veiling, en als we morgen zakken? ze kunnen het hoogstens morgenochtend 9:00 verkopen. Wordt je turbo dan uitgestopt met dikke winst?

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at any time on any Trading Day, from (and including) the Launch Date, and other than at a time at
which there is, in the determination of the Calculation Agent, a Market Disruption Event, greater than
or equal to the Stop Loss Level. If no such level is available the level will be determined by the
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Porsche says will settle hedged VW shares
By GEORGE FREY – 1 hour ago
FRANKFURT, Germany (AP) — Porsche moved Wednesday to put a brake on volatility in Volkswagen shares by selling some options and Germany's financial regulator announced a formal investigation into Volkswagen's recent stratospheric stock gains.
Porsche said it would be selling up to 5 percent of its options for common shares in the automaker — causing Volkswagen's stock to slump drastically Wednesday after several days of eye-popping gains.
The shares plunged 39.5 percent to 572 euros ($737.88) in late afternoon Frankfurt trading.
The options move comes after a weekend announcement that Porsche had bought options to increase its ownership in Volkswagen to 75 percent, building upon its previous ownership of 42.6 percent in common stock.
"We're only willing to reduce our options position as little as possible," and Porsche won't sell "one single share" of the 42.6 percent it holds in common shares, Porsche spokesman Frank Gaube said.
Gaube said if the company sells a full 5 percent of its Volkswagen options, Porsche would still hold options on another 26.5 percent of VW common shares, giving it effective control of 69.1 percent of the company.
He said Porsche will keep increasing its stake until it reaches 75 percent of Volkswagen — Europe's biggest automaker by sales — sometime in 2009.
German financial regulator BaFin launched a formal investigation into the breathtaking price swings in VW's shares — which jumped 82 percent on Tuesday after a similar surge Monday.
BaFin spokeswoman Anja Engelland said the investigation aimed to see if anyone had manipulated the market or taken part in insider trading. She would not say whether it was focused on Porsche.
"I can't estimate how long it will take; it could be days or weeks," she added.
Speculation on the reason for the gains centered on the fact that the number of available shares to trade after Porsche's deal had been dramatically reduced. The shares were propelled higher by reports that hedge funds and big investors were forced to scramble to buy the few remaining shares to get out of mistaken bets that the stock value would fall.
That, in part, was to blame for Volkswagen shares rising in value to as much as 1,005 euros ($1,256) on Tuesday — briefly giving VW a market cap bigger than ExxonMobil Corp's — the world's biggest company. They later settled back to close at 945 euros ($1,183.70).
Porsche shares were up 24 percent at 57.03 euros ($73) in Frankfurt afternoon trading Wednesday.
"Some commentators are now wondering whether Porsche's principal activity is as a carmaker or as a hedge fund itself," said Tim Urquhart, an analyst at IHS Global Insight in London.
He noted Porsche's 2007 results revealed it made some 3.6 billion euros in options trading compared with about 1 billion euros from building 911s and Cayennes for well-heeled car buyers.
Late Tuesday, Deutsche Boerse AG, which operates the Frankfurt exchange, said it would "adjust the weighting of DAX constituents" but did not plan to halt trading in VW shares.
It planned to adjust the DAX weight of VW shares from 27 percent Tuesday to 10 percent on Nov. 3, heeding calls by critics who said that VW's massive gains had driven the DAX index higher even though Volkswagen is just one of 30 companies making up the measure.

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Op woensdag 29 oktober 2008 18:17 schreef ItaloDancer het volgende:
Ah, kijk, November 3.

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Op woensdag 29 oktober 2008 17:40 schreef ItaloDancer het volgende:
AEX Index (sinds 1983)
1. 11 november 1987 +11,8%
2. 13 oktober 2008 +10,6%
3. 13 maart 2003 +10,0%
4. 21 oktober 1987 +9,2%
5. 29 oktober 2008 +9,1%
6. 12 november 1987 +8,7%
7. 19 september 2008 +8,6%
8. 15 oktober 2002 +7,7%
9. 29 juli 2002 +7,7%
10. 14 maart 2003 +7,1%

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Op woensdag 29 oktober 2008 18:37 schreef star_gazer het volgende:
Ik blij dat ik die order er net niet doorheen kreeg

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Op woensdag 29 oktober 2008 18:46 schreef ItaloDancer het volgende:

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had je ingezet op de short 259?

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Op woensdag 29 oktober 2008 19:27 schreef ItaloDancer het volgende:
min een half procent atm
maar alles kan nog gebeuren
dat kennen we van de rentewijzigingen

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Op woensdag 29 oktober 2008 19:37 schreef ItaloDancer het volgende:
jawel hoor het denkproces duurt altijd even

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Op woensdag 29 oktober 2008 20:23 schreef Tweeke het volgende:
Goed dat ik met mn tengels van de puts en shorts ben afgebleven.