USA falliet?

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Op zaterdag 20 september 2008 02:17 schreef StefanP het volgende:
Met als verschil dat Europa ook nog een absurde verzorgingsstaat heeft die gebaseerd is op oneindige bevolkingsgroei, maar dat er vrijwel geen kinderen meer geboren worden. Moet je eens opletten hoe dat in een generatie in elkaar gaat storten.

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Op zaterdag 20 september 2008 02:17 schreef StefanP het volgende:

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Als we dat begrotingstekort of de staatsschuld weg willen werken, is dat zo gebeurd. De Amerikaanse economie is zo groot en sterk dat dat geen probleem is. Het is een kwestie van willen.

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Op zaterdag 20 september 2008 23:05 schreef henkway het volgende:

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kunnen we niet Kennedy de schuld geven van de credietcrisis 2008??

Of Roosevelt?

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Op vrijdag 19 september 2008 01:06 schreef Richie_Rich het volgende:
Quote van Warren Buffett over goud
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Op dinsdag 23 september 2008 08:15 schreef Fokski het volgende:

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Klopt helemaal. De waarde ligt enkel in de mate dat er gevonden wordt en in omloop is en de traditionele interesse voor goud als sieraad. Als dat zou verdwijnen of wanneer er heel veel gevonden wordt is het ook einde oefening met de "waarde" van goud. Dat snappen veel goudstandaard fan boys niet.

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Op dinsdag 23 september 2008 01:59 schreef StefanP het volgende:

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Hah. Probeer het maar gauw weg te moffelen, maar socialistisch Amerika is grotendeels schuldig aan de crisis die er nu heerst. Natuurlijk zijn een aantal banken ook schuldig, maar alle banken zijn gedwongen om leningen te verstrekken in inner cities; aan gepeupel dat in de verste verte geen lening terug zou kunnen betalen. De druk om zulke leningen te verstrekken kwamen van enge linkse organisaties als ACORN en NACA, die hele communities banken plat zou doen leggen wanneer ze niet meededen. Communities? Ja, georganiseerd door.... community organizers. Je weet wel, Barack Obamas...

Hier, een artikel uit '92 waarin haarfijntjes uit de doeken gedaan wordt hoe fantastisch het is dat dat soort communities (je vraagt je af wat voor trieste sukkels een organizer nodig hebben...) ook leningen af kunnen gaan sluiten:

En een opiniestuk waarin nog wat meer staat.

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Op dinsdag 23 september 2008 08:23 schreef Rock_de_Braziliaan het volgende:

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Daar staat tegenover dat goud over de duizenden jaren heen een stabiel ruilmiddel is gebleken. De ervaring leert dat goud nooit niet populair is geweest. Dat kan je van gedrukt geld niet zeggen.

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Op dinsdag 23 september 2008 09:22 schreef Fokski het volgende:

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Wat er over duizenden jaren is gebeurd is niet echt relevant met wat er nu en in de toekomst kan gebeuren. We hebben duizenden jaren nauwelijks economische groei gekend. Iemand uit het jaar 0 was ongeveer even welvarend als iemand in het jaar 1000. Tegenwoordig maakt een generatie een wereld van verschil.

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Op dinsdag 23 september 2008 01:59 schreef StefanP het volgende:

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Hah. Probeer het maar gauw weg te moffelen, maar socialistisch Amerika is grotendeels schuldig aan de crisis die er nu heerst. Natuurlijk zijn een aantal banken ook schuldig, maar alle banken zijn gedwongen om leningen te verstrekken in inner cities; aan gepeupel dat in de verste verte geen lening terug zou kunnen betalen. De druk om zulke leningen te verstrekken kwamen van enge linkse organisaties als ACORN en NACA, die hele communities banken plat zou doen leggen wanneer ze niet meededen. Communities? Ja, georganiseerd door.... community organizers. Je weet wel, Barack Obamas...

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Op dinsdag 23 september 2008 01:59 schreef StefanP het volgende:

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Hah. Probeer het maar gauw weg te moffelen, maar socialistisch Amerika is grotendeels schuldig aan de crisis die er nu heerst. Natuurlijk zijn een aantal banken ook schuldig, maar alle banken zijn gedwongen om leningen te verstrekken in inner cities; aan gepeupel dat in de verste verte geen lening terug zou kunnen betalen. De druk om zulke leningen te verstrekken kwamen van enge linkse organisaties als ACORN en NACA, die hele communities banken plat zou doen leggen wanneer ze niet meededen. Communities? Ja, georganiseerd door.... community organizers. Je weet wel, Barack Obamas...

Hier, een artikel uit '92 waarin haarfijntjes uit de doeken gedaan wordt hoe fantastisch het is dat dat soort communities (je vraagt je af wat voor trieste sukkels een organizer nodig hebben...) ook leningen af kunnen gaan sluiten:

En een opiniestuk waarin nog wat meer staat.

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Op dinsdag 23 september 2008 09:29 schreef Rock_de_Braziliaan het volgende:

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En wat heeft dit te maken met het ruilmiddel goud/geld?

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Op dinsdag 23 september 2008 01:59 schreef StefanP het volgende:

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Hah. Probeer het maar gauw weg te moffelen, maar socialistisch Amerika is grotendeels schuldig aan de crisis die er nu heerst. Natuurlijk zijn een aantal banken ook schuldig, maar alle banken zijn gedwongen om leningen te verstrekken in inner cities; aan gepeupel dat in de verste verte geen lening terug zou kunnen betalen. De druk om zulke leningen te verstrekken kwamen van enge linkse organisaties als ACORN en NACA, die hele communities banken plat zou doen leggen wanneer ze niet meededen. Communities? Ja, georganiseerd door.... community organizers. Je weet wel, Barack Obamas...

Hier, een artikel uit '92 waarin haarfijntjes uit de doeken gedaan wordt hoe fantastisch het is dat dat soort communities (je vraagt je af wat voor trieste sukkels een organizer nodig hebben...) ook leningen af kunnen gaan sluiten:

En een opiniestuk waarin nog wat meer staat.

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'Geld in VS is scheef verdeeld'
De manier waarop nu in Amerika het geld wordt verdeeld, is scheef, zegt Colin Christensen uit Wagoner, Oklahoma. ,,Het is eenzijdig om alleen de mensen te helpen die al alles bezitten wat ze nodig hebben.''

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'Rijk wordt rijker, arm armer'
Bron: JACQUELIEN NIENHUIS en PASCAL THEUNISSEN
Theresa Victor in Las Vegas, New Mexico, weet zeker dat ze op Barack Obama gaat stemmen. ,,Met een Republikeinse regering worden de rijken rijker en de armen armer".

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Op dinsdag 23 september 2008 14:47 schreef Getsie het volgende:

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Banken hebben aan iedereen risicovolle hypotheken weggegeven, ook aan rijke mensen. Daarnaast is er op grote schaal geïnvesteerd in waardeloze projecten. Er zijn bonussen van miljarden euro's uitgedeeld aan maar enkele mensen. De Irak-oorlog is gefinancierd met geleend geld van Wallstreet.

En nu mogen Amerikaanse belastingbetalers 500 miljard euro gaan betalen en waarschijnlijk nog triljoenen meer.

Maar draai jij maar mee met vadertje Stalin, eh ik bedoel Jezus, eh ik bedoel de Republikeinen.

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JPMorgan buys WaMu
In the biggest bank failure in history, JPMorgan Chase will acquire massive branch network and troubled assets from Washington Mutual for $1.9 billion.

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By the early 20th century the US have already implemented and removed a few central banking systems, which were swindled into place by the ruthless banking interests. At this time, the dominate families in the banking and business world were: J.D. Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, Paul Warburg, Baron Rothschild. And in they early 1900's the sought to push once again legislation to create another central bank. However, they knew the Government and public were very wary of such an institution. So they needed to create an incident to affect the public opinion. So J.P.Morgan, publicly considered a financial luminary at the time, exploited his mass influence by publishing rumours about a prominent bank in New York wasn't solvent or bankrupt. Morgan new this would cause mass hysteria which would affect other banks as well. And it did. The public in fear of losing their deposits immediately began mass withdrawals. Consequently, the banks were forced to call in their loans causing their recipients to sell their property and thus the spiral of bankruptcies, repossessions and turmoil emerged. Putting the pieces together a few years later, Fredrik Allen of Life Magazine wrote:

“The Morgan interests took advantage… to participate the panic [of 1907] guiding it shrewdly as it progressed” –Frederik Allen, Life Magazine

Unaware of the fraud, the panic of 1907 led to the Congressional investigation headed by Senator Nelson Aldrich, who had intimate ties to the banking cartels and later became part of the Rockefeller family through marriage. The commission led by Aldrich recommended a central bank should be implemented so a panic like 1907 could never happen again. This was the spark that international bankers needed to initiate their plan. In 1910 a secret meeting was held at the J.P.Morgan's estate on Jekyll Island off the coast of Georgia. It was there that the central banking bill called the Federal Reserve Act was written. This legislation was written by bankers, not law makers. This meeting was so secretive, so concealed from Government and public knowledge that a 10 or so figures who intended disguised their names when on route to the island. After this bill was constructed, it was then handed over to their political front man, Senator Nelson Aldrich, to push through Congress. And in 1913, with heavy political sponsorship by the bankers, Woodrow Wilson became president, having already agreed to sign the Federal Reserve Act in exchange for campaign support.
And two days before Christmas, when most of Congress was at home with their families, the Federal Reserve Act was voted in and Wilson in turn made it law. Years later Woodrow Wilson wrote, in regret:

“[Our] Great Industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men.. who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom.”
“We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world –no government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.”
-Woodrow Wilson

Now, the public was told that the Federal Reserve System was economic stabilizer and inflation and economic crises were thing of the past. Well, as history has shown, nothing was further from the truth. The fact is, the international bankers now had a streamline machine to expand their personal ambitions,
For example, from 1914 to 1919 the Fed increased the money supply by nearly 100% resulting in extensive loans to small banks and the public. Then, in 1920 the Fed called in mass percentages of the outstanding money supply. Thus resulting in the supporting banks having to call in huge numbers of loans and just like 1907, bank runs, bankruptcy and collapse occurred. Over 5.400 competitive banks outside of the Federal Reserve System collapsed further consolidating the monopoly of the small group of international bankers. Privy to this crime, Congressman Lindbergh stepped up and said in 1921:

“Under the Federal Reserve Act, panics are scientifically created. The present panic is the first scientifically created one, worked out as we figure a mathematical equation.” –Charles Lindbergh

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However, the panic of 1920 was just a warm-up. From 1921 to 1929 the Fed again increased the money supply resulting once again in extensive loans to the public and banks. There was also a fairly new type of loan called the margin loan in the stock market. Very simply, the margin loan allowed an investor to put down only 10% of the stock's price with the other 90% being loaned from the broker. In other words, a person could own a $1000 worth of stock, with only a $100 down. This method was very popular in the roaring 1920's as everyone seemed to be making money in the market. However, there was a catch to this loan. It could be called in at any time and had to be paid within 24 hours. This is termed "a margin call", and a typical result of a margin call was the selling of the stock purchased with the loan. So, a few months before October in 1929, J.D.Rockefeller, Bernard Baruch and other insiders quietly exited the market. And on October 24th, 1929 the New York financiers who furnished the margin loans started calling them in, in mass. This sparked an instantaneous massive sell off in the market for everyone who had to cover the margin loans. It then triggered a mass bank runs for the same reason, in turn collapsing over 16.000 banks enabling the conspiring international bankers to not only buy up rival banks at the discount but to also buy up whole corporations at pennies on the dollar. It was the greatest robbery in American history. But that didn't stop there. Rather then expanding the money supply which were recovered from this economic collapse the Fed actually contracted it, fuelling one of the largest depressions in history. Once again outraged, Congressman Louis McFadden, a long time opponent of the banking cartels began bringing impeachment proceedings against the Federal Reserve Board. Saying of the crash and depression:

“It was a carefully contrived occurrence, international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair, so that they might emerge the rulers of us all.” - Louis McFadden
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Not surprisingly, and after two previous assassination attempts, McFadden was poisoned at a banquet before he could push for the impeachment.

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World War I
In 1914 European war broke out centered around England and Germany. The American public wanted nothing to do with the war. In turn President Woodrow Wilson publicly declared neutrality. However, under the surface the US administration was looking for any excuse it could find to enter. In another observation by the Secretary of State, William Jennings:

“The large banking interests were deeply interested in the world war because of the wide opportunities for large profits.” –William Jennings Bryan

It's important to understand that the most lucrative thing that can happen for the international bankers is war. For, it forces the country to borrow even more money from the Federal Reserve Bank at interest. Woodrow Wilson's top adviser and mentor was Colonel Edward House, the man with the intimate connections with the international bankers who wanted in the war. In the documented conversation between Colonel House, Wilson's adviser and Sir Edward Grey, the Foreign Secretary of England regarding how to get America into the war, Grey inquired:

“What will American do if germans sink an ocean liner with American passengers on board?”

House responded:

“I believe that a flame of indignation would sweep the United States and that by itself would be sufficient to carry us into war.”

So, on May 7th 1915 on essentially the suggestion of Sir Edward Grey, the ship called the Lusitania was deliberately sent into German controlled waters where German military vessels were known to be. And as expected, German U-boats torpedoed the ship, exploding stored ammunition, killing 1.200 people.

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World War II
On December 7th, 1941 Japan attacked the American fleet at Pearl Harbor triggering our entry into that war. President Franklin D. Roosevelt declared the attack was "a day that will live in infamy". A day of infamy indeed, but not because of the alleged surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. After 60 years of surfacing information it is clear that not only was the attack on Pearl Harbor known weeks in advance, it was outright wanted and provoked. Roosevelt, whose family had been New York bankers since the 18th century, whose uncle Frederick was on the original Federal Reserve Board was very sympathetic to the interest of the international bankers, and the interest was to enter the war because as we've seen - nothing is more profitable for the international bankers than war. In a journal entry by Roosevelt's Secretary of War Henry Stimson dated November 25, 1941 he documented a conversation he had with Roosevelt.

“The question was how should we maneuver them into firing the first shot… It was desirable to make sure the Japanese be the ones to do this so that there should remain no doubt as to who were the aggressors.” –Henry Stimson, Secretary of War

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Op woensdag 24 september 2008 12:20 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:
In Debt We Trust

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Op maandag 29 september 2008 20:24 schreef HenriOsewoudt het volgende:
Er is nog hoop:

Huis van afgevaardigden keurt reddingsplan af

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Op maandag 29 september 2008 20:24 schreef HenriOsewoudt het volgende:
Er is nog hoop:

Huis van afgevaardigden keurt reddingsplan af