Hopelijk het laatste Maddy McCann topic, maandag is d-day.

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Op zondag 7 september 2008 21:20 schreef Suko het volgende:
Nieuws wat men niet 'mag' lezen in de UK...Een interview met Amaral in de Spaanse krant El Mundo:

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Q - What do you think could have happened that night?
A - Both the British and Portuguese police, and even the prosecutor, who has already changed his mind, thought the same. We talked about death by others, not murder. In the room, blood and cadaver odour was found just below a window where a sofa was. The father was talking to a friend just outside that window for a while. The girl was not a heavy sleeper, that's what the parents said. Perhaps she heard her father and climbed to the sofa below the window. But the parents, for the girl not to go out, moved it away from the wall. Madeleine could have fallen.
Q - The girl falls from the sofa, dies with the blow and the parents find her.
A - The mother. It is the mother who finds the girl dead.
Q - But I am trying to think out an idea. How can a mother who has just found her daughter dead on the floor decide to hide the corpse? And how do you hide the corpse of a girl of nearly four years old so that no one can find it?
A – This is what we were investigating when I was dismissed from the case. I want to recall that there is an Irish man who claimed to have seen Gerry McCann with a girl in his arms, on his way towards the beach that same night. That testimony has been hidden. The dogs specialised in finding traces of blood and odour of cadaver, found both on the wall of the apartment and in the boot of the car that the McCanns rented 23 days later.
Q - Did Gerry McCann bury his dead daughter on the beach and then unearth her and put her in the boot 23 days later?
A - We do not know. The Irish [witness] that I have told you about saw Gerry on television with a child in his arms arriving in the UK and stated that it was the same image they had seen back in May in Portugal. That man spent two days without sleeping when he realised what he had discovered, but nobody has talked about them. And what one of the Irish has said is logical, a man with a child in his arms toward the beach.
Q - But this implies that the whole group, the nine people who ate dinner that night, had agreed to lie.
A - All of them. Because, if you do not know, the British law regarding negligence and child welfare is very strict. They left their children alone in the apartments. In the UK, if you leave a child alone for half an hour, you lose custody. After Madeleine's death, if it had been made public that it was an accident, everyone could have lost custody.
Q - So you consider that one of the reasons for the parents and friends to have lied is because they feared losing their children's custody.
A - Yes, yes. Nobody has opened legal proceedings for what happened, for the negligence, and we have asked the British authorities why. Have they answered? Of course not.
Q – Let's go to the day of the disappearance. 17h30 is the last time that neutral witnesses saw Maddie alive. At 20h30, her parents sit down, composed, at the table for dinner with friends. In the middle, Gerry even plays tennis. Is there enough time for the girl to fall from the sofa, killing herself, for the parents to realise, to decide to conceal her, for the siblings to be sleeping, and for them to arrive undisturbed and sit at the table as if nothing had happened? Even more, for them to sit down at the table after having convinced the rest of the group that they mustn't report the death of the girl?
A - In those three hours there are inconsistencies between witnesses. Some said that the checks lasted half an hour, others said 30 seconds...
Q – It is obvious that they contradict each other, but did they have time to do everything you say they did?
A - Yes, of course they had time. Some say that Gerry had a strange behaviour at the table.
Q – Did they?
A – They said that he spoke too much, gesticulated a lot, quite the opposite from the previous days. For me this is a very real hypothesis.
Q - You have a long career as an investigator, years in which you have faced criminals and innocents. What do you see when facing the McCanns?
A - They are two persons with much fear. I do not know if they fear to be discovered or fear the police of an unknown country.
Q – It was said that Kate was very cold. But I've seen her cry.
A - So did I. She is not cold. There was a moment, in a meeting with them, when we set out the sofa theory. Kate put her head down, looking distant, and, after a few seconds, she looked up again as if nothing had happened. She looked like she was escaping from the role that she was interpreting.
Q - When you raised the hypothesis that the girl might have died after falling off the sofa, did Kate McCann answer?
A - She did not answer, she just dropped her head for a moment, as if she was about to faint. She had an emotional collapse that lasted just a moment.
Q - And Gerry McCann?
A – He is a very strong person, dominant. He's a surgeon, a man capable of making decisions very quickly. That was good for him to be able to decide over Madeleine. If you have to hide the body, you must decide quickly. And it could only be hidden on the beach, and you have to take her on foot. This is where the statements from the Irish witness is important, the one that no one has taken into account.
Q - What is your opinion?
A - To me, Gerry hid Madeleine's body on the beach. And after a few days he moved her with his car. We work following this lead. Trying to find out the date of the switch, some details, but we were on the way. The Irish [witness] was about to arrive in Portugal, but everything was delayed too much, he even received external pressures. In the end, he didn't testify for the Police.
Q – They [McCanns] have appeared in all the media to announce the disappearance of their daughter and if it ends up that they have done it, what are they, psychopaths?
A – No, they are human. If the McCanns admit that their daughter is dead, they can no longer collect money from the Maddie fund, and that's a lot of money, over one million pounds. That's why they say that the girl was abducted.
Q - What if they do not want to lose hope? It all seems very morbid.
A - It is. If they admit that she is dead they will lose their style of life. They are human, not psychopaths.
Q - You said that the girl was frozen.
A - For there to be vestiges in the boot of the car rented 23 days later, they must have preserved the corpse in some way. I believe that when they put it in the boot, with the heat of those days in the Algarve, a similar situation happened with that of shopping bags, which melt, and then the water is transferred to the car.
Q – Couldn't the traces be transferred from the room to the parents clothes and after to the car?
A - But if you have blood on your clothes it is because you've seen it [sic]. And the blood that the dogs found was washed blood, it was remains not clear spots.
Q - Neither you nor Alípio Ribeiro (former director of the Judicial Police), nor Olegário Souza (former police spokesman), are still on their posts. You have even pre-retired.
A - There were too many pressures. The McCanns have many contacts and nobody was interested in knowing the truth.
Q - Is it the British Empire against Portugal?
A - Yes, it seems so.

TRACES OF DNA IN THE CAR'S BOOT

The Scotland Yard dogs detected, in the boot of the car rented by the McCanns 23 days after the disappearance of the girl, traces of DNA which could belong to the girl; for the Portuguese Police more evidence, that Maddie was not abducted but that she died in the Ocean Club apartment.

Note: Mr Amaral does NOT actually describe Calpol as a 'sleeping pill'. It is El Mundo who describe it as such: Firstly, in the headline teaser and secondly, in brackets to describe to Spanish readers what Calpol is, after Mr Amaral has simply mentioned it by name.

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Op maandag 8 september 2008 12:12 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
Goedemiddag!

Die honden en het andere bewijs (DNA, getuigen, gebrek aan bewijs voor ontvoering.) gaan niet weg, de geldstroom van de McCanns zal wel ooit opdrogen, als de zaak wat meer in de luwte komt dan verwacht ik een verrassing. Afwachten maar.... Het is heel makkelijk om vanachter je PC kritiek te hebben op de PJ, we hebben allemaal gezien dat de Britten met man en macht op kwamen draven, inclusief Brown nota bene. Om dan te zeggen dat hij dingen anders had moeten doen vind ik een beetje Calimero vragen om een leeuw te ondervragen, volgens zou dat hetzelfde effect hebben.....
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Witnesses Heard by The PJ in the Maddie Case Were Sounded Out by the McCanns
McCanns searched for Witnesses
^{by Luís Maneta}
The mediatic process was still under the secrecy of justice, Kate and Gerry had already been constituted as arguidos, but nonetheless Madeleine's parents did not stop having contacts with witnesses. Three of them told everything to the authorities.

During the period in which the process Maddie was kept under the secrecy of justice, the McCann family had knowledge of what several witnesses knew. Persons who were sounded out and questioned by detectives hired to discover the whereabouts of the English girl, or even by a millionaire friend of the couple, reported subsequently the fact to the authorities, as stated in the process made public last month.

Between the witnesses "searched" on the McCanns request is Charlotte Pennington, one of the Ocean Club nannies, and Martin Smith, an Irish tourist who swore to be convinced of having seen Gerry carrying a child on his arms, in the fateful night of the 3rd of May in which the English girl disappeared of the apartment rented by the family in Praia da Luz.

Another witness, Catriona Baker, an Ocean Club nanny who knew personally Madeleine McCann, was received at the home of Kate and Gerry in November of 2007; months before her giving a statement to the Leicester police, in the scope of the rogatory letters sent by the Portuguese authorities for the United Kingdom.

When cross-examined by the English police, in April of 2008, Catriona Baker revealed the existence of this meeting: “I visited the family at their home in the sequence of an invitation to see how everyone was”.

Millionaire spoke with witness

In the questioning, besides describing the routine of the children in the crèche where they spent a great part of the day, Catriona shows that, when she knew of Maddie's disappearance, she searched for her everywhere, following on foot all the routes that were familiar to her, from the area around the Tapas Bar to the beach. “I did not see Kate or Gerry on that night”, she guarantees.

In his turn, the Irish tourist Martin Smith said to the British authorities that he had been contacted by Brian Kennedy - one of the biggest financiers of the Madeleine McCann Fund - in a date that he did not specify. Brian Kennedy justified the initiative with the purpose of elaborating a visual rendering of the man that Martin Smith said to have seen, a little after 22h00, carrying a child near the Ocean Club.

Initially, Smith did not identify the person. But after returning England and having seen Gerry McCann with one of the twins on his arms he was “60-80 % sure” that it was the same person. Having suspicions, Smith, did not only help to do any sketches he also refused to give informations.

Charlotte Pennington also said to have been approached by initiative of the McCanns. In this case, the contact was done through a private investigator, Noel Hagan, who works for Metodo 3, one of the detectives' agencies hired by Maddie's parents. “Charlotte assured to me that she only told him the same informations that she had already given to the PJ and to me”, wrote the English police officer who spoke with the former Ocean Club nanny. Source: 24 Horas

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Op dinsdag 9 september 2008 11:27 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
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http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)-detective-says.html

Lees deze link eens en probeer er op te klikken....

Reminder:

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"Ook veelzeggend, het Telegraph-artikel welke ik gisteravond heb gepost (hierboven) is van de site verwijderd....Een 3arguido-poster schrijft Ultimately, the Telegraph and associated outlets will have journos monitoring forums but what about the governments Media Monitoring Unit - who are the powers behind the pulling of this article and why? Perhaps they are one and the same? Of maakt Clarence Mitchell gelijk z'n woorden waar in het teruggetrokken Telegraph-artikel: "Mr Amaral needs to be very careful in repeating those allegations. Kate and Gerry's lawyers are watching his words very carefully." En dan gehoorzaamt de Telegraph heel braaf.... The UK is becoming a Stasi-nation....imo.

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Op dinsdag 9 september 2008 13:24 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Tja, dat kan ik allemaal niet bijhouden hoor!
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Ne, joh, je teut echt niet te veel, we moeten het maar gewoon allemaal hier neerzetten want voor je het weet is het weg, dat blijkt wel weer.... Zulke artikelen maar gewoon meteen helemaal knippen en plakken want als het naar kritiek of bewijs neigt is het maar zo weg....
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ja, net alsof het zo afgesproken is, of wilde de 1 niet voor de ander onderdoen en is Maddy daar nu de dupe van, een moeilijk kindje en Kate heeft daarna een tweeling gekregen....

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Op woensdag 10 september 2008 18:53 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
Hey Suko, dat zal best wel eens zo kunnen zijn met die medical records, verhaspelen van eitjes of de ene dame heeft die van de ander gekregen vanwege onvruchtbaarheid, misschien is 1 van de mannen wel steriel, we'll never zo zo het nu lijkt.
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http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/189660.html

Nou, het moet toch niet gekker worden, laat die mannen nu gewoon van hun pensioen genieten zeg.....

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"New videos of Eddie and Keela, 10 September 2008

New videos of the dogs

Images of the McCanns villa in Praia da Luz, Algarve, Portugal.

The Portuguese police search the McCanns villa and find several sleeping medicines, confidential CEOP manuals, books about murder, and cadaver odour on 'Cuddle Cat', which belonged to Madeleine.

Video released by Spanish Antena 3 TV. 10 September 2008

The journalist from the first video essentially says what is covered in the article translated below. The second video explains what we have heard from Mr Grime previously and talks about the conclusions of the dogs findings, which can be read in the PJ's Final Report.

Exclusive New Video: Madeleine McCann Case

New Cadaver Dogs Video

Antena3 Report: The McCanns kept numerous medicines which provoked sleepiness Antena3 (Spanish)

New exclusive images from the report

^{Espejo Público [an Antena3 TV Show]
Madrid, 10.09.2008 | 11:03 h.
Thanks to Joana Morais for translation}

Given the repeated refusal of the British police to send different reports about the marriage, the Portuguese police drew up a profile searching throughout the McCanns second house, in Praia da Luz.

Thus, officers, accompanied by two police psychologists, conducted a meticulous search in the main bedroom.

In a case of abduction, the family circle is always investigated. The police were surprised on having seen the bedroom. Kate seems to be mourning. In her small bedside table are many photos of Maddy surrounded with rosaries and a Bible, which had bookmarked, with a picture a fragment of the Old Testament in which it could be read: "However, because by this deed you have given occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born to you shall surely die". [2 Samuel 12:14]".

At the other side of the bed, on Gerry's bedside table the attention is given to, between other books, "The interpretation of Murder". In the study where Gerry writes his blog and where he works at the campaign to find his daughter, another surprise: CEOP manuals, books with access restricted to police and governmental entities.

Faced with this discovery, Mark Harrison, the British police officer brought from the United Kingdom to coordinate the case, finds it difficult to believe. He wonders how this married couple had access to these manuals, which are exclusively reserved for police officers.

The Portuguese Officers confirm, in this way, their suspicions about the contacts which have been provided to the McCanns, which, for them, is translated into huge political pressure that, in their judgment, limits the investigation.

Also, the police find numerous medicines, which they examine in search of the sedatives that they fear were given to the children by the McCanns on the night of the 3rd of May. They also register the side effects caused by the medicines that they find, and verify that the majority of them provoke sleepiness. They examine as well the drawers, closets, as well as the twins' room and that no longer sleep in cots but in beds.

The final report of the process, in contrast to the images included in the same report, state that independently of the curious and morbid conclusions, the only fact that one can determine, as such, is the disparate behaviour of the couple at the time of facing Madeleine's disappearance.

Ook Joana Morais komt met verhaal: Exclusive New Videos: Madeleine McCann Case met een aantal interessante links zoals deze: Related: Madeleine McCann the Facts in the Beginning (SOL article)

3. In the Vista Mar villa (rented by the McCanns)

a) cadaver odour, detected by the dogs on clothes that belong to Kate, and on the pink soft toy

b) an English book, normally used by police, that focuses on the different types of crimes, as well as on what clues should be looked for to identify its perpetrators

c) a bible, on Kate’s bedside table, open at the Old Testament, at the passage that tells the death of King David’s son (God punished David with the death of his son, in order to force him away from sin and to return onto the path of good)

d) Kate’s diary, in which she writes about daily difficulties, in dealing with her children.
by Joana Morais

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Maddie Case: The former head of the investigation accuses Maddie's parents of hiding her body and simulating an abduction LaVanguardia.es

Amaral presents his book "Maddie: The Truth of the Lie" and maintains that the girl was killed by a "tragic accident" on the same day of her disappearance
^{10/09/2008 Updated at 14:12 pm}
Madrid. (EFE) .- The Portuguese inspector, who ceased when he was leading the investigation into the disappearance of British child Madeleine McCann in the Algarve, Gonçalo Amaral, has argued that the McCann couple simulated abduction of the girl and hid her body.

At a press conference in which he presented his book "Maddie: The Truth of the Lie," Amaral explained that the conclusion of the investigation which he coordinated during the five months following the disappearance of the girl, on 3 May 2007, is that Madeleine died from a "tragic accident" that day.

"The girl is dead, where she is buried I do not know," said the former Portuguese chief inspector, and highlighted the testimony of an Irish family that on the night of the disappearance passed by a man who was carrying a girl in his arms and that later, when they saw his picture on television, identified him as Gerry McCann.

The former policeman criticised the archival of the "Maddie case" last July, when Kate and Gerry McCann were acquitted of their status as suspects by the Portuguese District Attorney's Office, but has warned that the discovery of "new evidence" could motivate the reopening of the investigation.

"There are many signs of her death," Amaral asserted, who has stressed that the Police dogs detected the smell of human blood and body "with a genetic profile consistent with that of Madeleine" behind a sofa in the apartment that the parents had rented in the Portuguese town of Praia da Luz.

Amaral also stressed that the McCann couple had acknowledged supplying a drug to their children, which they said was paracetamol, but this was identified as a sedative in the course of the investigations.

The night of the disappearance of her daughter, Kate McCann "put her hand in front of the noses of her other children, still asleep, to see if they were breathing," said the former policeman, who considered that "it is not normal that a mother should act like this after losing a daughter."

Amaral described the McCanns as "parents who have felt pain and anguish" and he has taken the view that it is "very difficult" for the couple - who have always maintained the hypothesis of an abduction - to "reverse" this, and adds: "Millions have been involved in looking for the child alive, how are you going to say that she is dead?".

The former inspector from the Judicial Police (Portuguese police investigation) has affirmed that he does not fear a lawsuit from the McCanns and, indeed, he considers that a lawsuit would be "an interesting way to reopen the case". In addition, Amaral pointed to political and diplomatic pressures that -in his judgment - led to his removal from command of the investigation in October 2007 and has ruled that "the British government intervened in some way".

The former policeman has assured that with his book, which has recognised as "controversial", he intended to restore his "good name" and contribute to the discovery of the true facts.

Exclusive New Video: Madeleine McCann Case

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Tapas restaurant staff interviews on 04 May 2007
Jeremy Wilkins (short statement) and Tapas restaurant staff interviews on 04 May 2007

We are still on the day after Madeleine's disappearance, May 4th 2007. The next folder in the case file contains the statements of members of the "TAPAS" restaurant staff and statements volunteered by....

JEREMY WILKINS

Following various informal conversations related to the area of research, we were contacted by a British citizen named Jeremy Michael Wilkins, holder of passport no. 205...., owner of mobile phone no. +44788...., living in ....London. He spends his holidays at, "WATERSIDE GARDENS," block G, about 50 metres from the apartment where the small child was. He told us that yesterday, between 20h30 and 21h00, while he was in the "TAPAS" restaurant, he noted that a person of around 1.70m, with long blonde hair, apparently of the "Rasta," style and dressed in green military-style clothes, entered the restaurant. This person did not stay very long. His behaviour was somewhat strange and he seemed to be rather nervous. He was alone, he did not speak to anyone and left soon afterwards. The informant maintains that he has never seen this person in the village.

Note: The "TAPAS" bar is annexed to the restaurant where Madeleine's parents were dining during her alleged disappearance.

TAPAS

Today we went to the "TAPAS" restaurant, owned by the OCEAN CLUB in Praia da Luz, where we collected statements from several employees. The subject of the statements was focused on little Madeleine McCann's disappearance as well as the behaviour of people in the group who dined in the same restaurant and who come from the same country as the missing child and on a suspicious person with blonde, "Rasta," locks.

JERONIMO TOMAS RODRIGUES S.

Bar employee:

He saw the missing child, Madeleine McCann, for the last time, yesterday at around 16h45 at the restaurant. He didn't notice whether anyone from the group of British citizens - 8 or 9 in number - who dined at the restaurant yesterday (of which the child's parents were members) was absent during dinner.

He saw a, "walkie-talkie," placed on the group's table, which was being used to monitor children at a distance. He did not see anyone at all with blonde "Rasta," locks on the night he was working.

SVETLANA S. V.

Russian citizen - kitchen assistant:

She reports that yesterday, someone whom she believes to be the father of the missing child, left the table where he was dining with a group of friends (8 or 9 in number) for around 30 minutes. On his return, a woman, whom she believes to be the wife of the latter, left the table in her turn, and after a very short time, all the guests left the table with the exception of an older lady who told the informant's colleagues that the child had disappeared. During the whole time she was working, between 14h30 and 23h00, she didn't see anyone with blonde, "Rasta," locks.

MIGUEL S.C.

Cook:

He does not know the small child or her parents. All he knows is that they are part of a group of British citizens who usually dine at the "TAPAS". As he works in the kitchen, he rarely goes into the dining room. He saw nothing in particular. He didn't see anyone with blonde "Rasta" locks while he was working (14h30 - 23h00).

JOACQUIM JOSE M.B.

Dining room waiter:

Of the group of 8/9 British citizens who dined in the restaurant yesterday, as they usually do, a group which the missing child's parents are part of, he noticed that only two people, men, left the table.

The first to be away was around 40 to 45 years old (tall, slim, white, hair greying) and he left the table for around 15 minutes. He remembers this because he had to reheat his meal, which had gone cold. The second (around 40 to 45 years old, with similar characteristics to the first, but with less hair and thinner hair) was away for around 30 minutes.

Shortly after he returned, the whole group left the table, with the exception of an older person who told him that a child had disappeared. It was a daughter of a member of the group, and that's why he thought that the second person to be absent would have been the child's father. Sometimes when the group came to eat at the restaurant, someone from the group left to go to the apartments to check on the sleeping children. He didn't see anyone with blonde, "Rasta," locks during his hours of work. (16h00 - midnight).

JOELSON FABIO S. S. L.

Was contacted at another of the group's restaurants in the same area.

As he works in the office, he did not have a view of the dining room where the tables are, which is why he saw nothing.

He does not know the missing child or her parents.

He saw no one with blonde "Rasta" locks during his hours of work. (15h30 - 23h30).

RICARDO ALEXANDRE D. L. O.

On his day off today, he was contacted by telephone.

Dining room staff:

Of the group of 8/9 British citizens who dined yesterday, as they regularly do, which the parents of the missing child are part of, he noticed that one man was absent for around 15 minutes (Tall, average build, white, light brown hair). The informant states that it was usual for someone in the group to leave to go to check the apartments where the children were sleeping. At the table, he noted the presence of an intercom. He saw no one with blonde "Rasta" locks during his working hours. (16h00 -00h30)

MARIA MANUELA A. J.

Kitchen staff:

Seen as the latter was not at work during dinner yesterday, as well as at the of the child's disappearance, we have not recorded her statement.

SUSPECT WITH RASTA LOCKS

At the OCEAN CLUB reception, which is open 24 hours a day, the signatory to the present deed, may have observed a person with long, curly, blonde Rasta locks, in a green sweat shirt, corresponding to the description of the man with Rasta locks. The receptionist states that this person and his wife were guests of the hotel group and that he was untiring, since yesterday, in the search for the missing child. The signatory attaches, to the appendix of the present deed, a photocopy of their passports as well as the registration records of the complex.

Editor's note: the suspect with the "Rasta" locks and his wife are of British nationality. They are respectively 37 and 40 years old.

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According to you, what happened on May 3, 2007?

Madeleine McCann died from accidentally falling behind the sofa in the living room of the apartment. That couch had been moved during the alleged disappearance. I think that someone discovered the body, concealed it, cleaned everything and pushed the sofa to the window.

Who?

The parents of Madeleine.

On what basis can you say that?

The dogs brought in by the British police discovered cadaver odour behind the sofa and in the bedroom of the parents of the girl. Also on the small child's toy, the clothes of Kate and in the trunk and the keys to the car that was rented later.

And how did they conceal the body without anyone seeing?

Yes they were seen! An Irish family saw a man pass by them with a child in his arms at 22.05, on the way to the beach. Later, the girl was identified as Maddie. But they did not realise that the man who they had seen was Gerry until they were following television and saw how the McCanns landed in the UK.

What happened?

The position in which Gerry held one of the twins and his way of walking were identical to those of the individual who they had seen that night.

But, 22.05 was when Kate said that the girl had disappeared and Gerry was with her…

The hours are unclear. The only thing certain is that the McCanns told the National Republican Guard at 22.40. So, before that, Gerry had had time to bury the body of the girl on the beach.

And nobody saw him there? During the night when they were already looking for the girl.

Yes, but they were looking for a girl alive, not a girl dead. In addition, I am not saying that the body remained on the beach all the time. Clearly, the first thing was to remove it from the apartment. Later they could find other solutions to hide it. Witnesses of the National Republican Guard said they had seen the McCanns directed onto the beach twice in the course of that morning. Surely they quickly found a better place.

How does it explain that the dogs found the smell of a corpse in the McCanns car?

They rented it 24 days after the disappearance. It was what was being investigated when I was removed from the case.

You believe that they conserved it in a freezer all that time? Where?

There is a journalist who says that he saw the McCanns enter a block of apartments close to the beach, in the month of June… But we do not know in which flat they were. It is a building for tourists and they passed many people.

And why is it the dogs did not detect the smell of a corpse on the clothes of Gerry McCann?

You know which clothes Gerry was wearing that night? I do not yet know it.

There is more information that is still missing?

We asked the English police for reports on the couple, if they had a nanny in the United Kingdom, if they had had some problems in their work... We never received those answers.

Why? Do you believe that the McCanns have high level connections?

I do not know. I do not want to comment on that, but it is curious how the British Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, showed his support to the couple even after they were declared arguidos.

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Op vrijdag 12 september 2008 12:17 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Goedemiddag!
Zo dan, erg verhelderend, Gerry een half uur van tafel voor de vermissing en geen blonde rasta in sight bij het personeel.
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Nee idd, vind je het ook niet vreemd dat naar mate de tijd vordert er details bovenkomen die helemaal niet geferifieerd kunnen worden en absoluut niet in de eerste verhoren naar boven zijn gekomen, toch een raar iets het geheugen......
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Heel goed, als er iemand is die hen het vuur aan de schenen kan leggen is hij het wel, mooi prikjes uit blijven delen zou ik zeggen.

Hier het rondje Anorak:
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Goh, na 4 jaar een meisje teruggevonden, maar goed, van haar was bekend dat ze ontvoerd was, ik heb in geval van Maddie geen enkel bewijs gezien dat zij ook ontvoerd is, integendeel.....

Natuurlijk wordt hier door team McCann dankbaar gebruik van gemaakt, wie weet komt er nog een grote geldschieter bovendrijven...

_{(ik ben dit weekeinde weg, kom zondag terug, als ik niet post is het niet omdat ik er geen zin in heb, ik ben er gewoon niet. )}

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"The McCanns are parents who have lost their daughter, whom they loved very much and I understand their pain and anguish" hola.com
^{11-09-2008 Thanks to 'Ines' for translation}
The former inspector from the Portuguese Policía Judiciaria presents "Maddie, the truth of the lie", an account of the most media covered investigation of recent times.

"Maddie, the truth of the lie". That is the title that Gonçalo Amaral, former inspector of the Policía Judiciaria and coordinator of the investigation into the "Madeleine case" during the first five months, has chosen in order to reveal how the search for the little Madeleine McCann, who disappeared on 3rd May 2007 from the Algarve, was carried out.

The text summarises the doubts, facts and the questions of an unprecedented investigation. 14 months after the disappearance all suspicion has been lifted from Kate and Gerry McCann, the child's parents, and the case has been filed, but little Madeleine is still missing.

Gonçalo is a tall and corpulent man, as we could imagine of a police officer who has worked against crime for more than 25 years and who, for the first five months bore the weight of the most media covered investigation of recent times, the disappearance of Maddie. Yesterday Gonçalo presented the book in Madrid, surrounded by a large media expectation and made room in his agenda to talk to Hola.com.

Q: The disappearance of Madeleine has been one of the most followed cases by the press throughout the world. Now you have decided to publish a book about the investigation, was there anything left to say?

I decided to write the book to defend our dignity. Part of the British press and even the McCann couple have defamed my name and that of the Policía Judiciaria in Portugal; I requested authorisation to speak but I never obtained it, that is why I decided to write the book.

Q: What relationship do you have with the McCann couple?

I was the head of the department investigating the case within the Policía Judiciaria in Portimao. I was responsible for organising the work of the investigation and ensuring that it continued on course, and therefore I was with the couple once or twice as well as with all the witnesses and with inspectors working on the case. I do not want to discuss publicly with the McCanns, they have lost a daughter. Neither I, nor the parents are of interest, the only victim here is the little girl.

Q: We are obliged to ask this question. Do you know what happened to Madeleine?

Madeleine died in the apartment on the night of the disappearance. It is complicated to be sure how she died because there are many indications. What is certain is that the girl woke up, the girl has disappeared and that behind the sofa there was cadaver odour and human blood.

Q: You state that the girl fell from the sofa, they found her and that her father took her to the beach.

Yes. There are witnesses who claim to be 80% sure that Madeleine's father was the person who was carrying a covered child towards the beach, in the apartment cadaver odour and the girl's blood were found as well as in a car rented 23 days later. In the apartment there was a sofa next to a window, at a aheight of three or four metres from street level and which did not close properly. The sofa appears to have been pushed towards the wall again, as can be seen by the photos. What could have happened? The girl woke up during the night, went to the window in order to look towards the restaurant where her parents were dining and could have fallen.

Q: The book says that the witness statements from the couple and their friends are contradictory. Is it not normal for there to be some confusion during these moments of tension?

There are contradictions that are not possible in material terms. For example, the mother speaks of an open window (when she discovered the little girl to be missing) and I wonder how it can be that the witnesses responsible for checking on the children, who passed by the window, at a distance of only two metres, and who entered Madeleine's room, said that they saw the window was closed. If events had occurred according to the first version, the window should already have been open. There are many contradictions that lack truth. If one reads a summary of the movements told by these persons, there are things that are not certain.

Q: How is it possible that the first examination of the site, carried out by the technical police, was not sufficiently rigorous in order to provide conclusive evidence?

Unfortunately this is something that can happen. The first police officers who went to the site thought of a possible abduction as well as theft, they did not find any door or window that had been forced, they searched for finger prints from people unrelated to the apartment and witness statements from people who could have seen something in the street. It did not occur to them that the parents could have had anything to do with the girl's disappearance.

Q: Did you think from the beginning that this was not an abduction?

It is not normal that someone should insist and be determined that this was an abduction without considering another option. When a child disappears, one thinks she could have escaped and many other hypotheses. And the contradictions from all of them, lead one to think that something totally different happened. We worked on the abduction theory for two or three months and then we began to think about the theory of death.

Q: The police continued maintaining the abduction theory after considering that the girl was dead. Why?

The parents spoke of the abduction as a necessity. There was no security for the children because if there had been Maddie would not have disappeared. And the abduction theory was dropped when it was proved that it could not be based upon the open window.

Q: In the book you state that even Kate, the young girl's mother, at one moment assumed the death of her daughter. Let's talk of this moment.

Yes. As is mentioned in the files, once the entire world had been upturned with the search for the child, Kate received a disturbing email from a woman who claimed to have powers. This woman said that she had had a premonition according to which, Madeleine's body was in a sewer in Praia da Luz. At that moment, Kate believed in the premonition and a search for the little girl was made. Kate began to act as though she were assuming that Madeleine had died; she even contracted a former South African Colonel who could locate the girl's body using a machine that searches for atoms. The man participated in the search, but without success. There were many psychics who wanted to contribute. However, at that time Kate returned to her thesis that the small girl had been abducted.

Q: More controversial evidence. The dogs detected cadaver and blood odour, but these conclusions were not admitted as official evidence. What credibility does dog tracking have in police investigations?

In England it has much legal value, as in the States, but not in Portugal. Its credibility has been undervalued, it has been said that dogs obey the trainer's voice. But they found cadaver odour and human blood that coincided with Madeleine's blood and although it was not admitted as material evidence, it did serve as information for the police.

Q: The consideration of Kate and Gerry as suspects was very controversial. However, in your book you say that the status of "arguido" brings with it the right to silence, or that of non self-incrimination, something advantageous for any person being interrogated. The press understood it as an attack.

They were considered "arguidos" on the moment when the evidence indicated that they could have committed a crime. "Arguido" is not the same status as "accused" in Spain, it is a status that provides the rights to defend oneself and remain silent, and often serves in order to exonerate them later. If one speaks as a witness, one is obliged to speak of everything that happened, and therefore there are things that could make you culpable.

Q: The media has played an important role in this case. Has all this media expectation helped to find the girl?

No. In my opinion, justice is done in silence. And with all this noise, it is very difficult. I say: who is interested in all this publicity? All the "sightings" of the girl around the world? Does this help to keep her alive? No, they would kill her. And the parents do not want their daughter to die, so why do they publicise the sightings? Because they know the girl is dead. Otherwise they would not do it.

Q: But, how can parents maintain the abduction theory of their small daughter, if they know what really happened to her?

It is a way of moving forward, of surviving. It is like a snowball that keeps growing in size. With everything that they have stirred, with the financial fund they created, how can they step backwards and say that she died? It is not a case of coldness but of survival. But the police investigation was also centred from the start on the principle that Maddie was alive. In effect, and all those sightings that were made public were not beneficial to the girl. If she were alive, and not dead as we think, what would all this publicity do to the girl?

Q: How did you experience the search for Maddie? Has this case affected you?

There have been some very difficult moments. My family has suffered much, my wife and my daughters… I kept them away from the press and concentrated on the case. In September, when school started, they left our city for Portimao in order to be closer to me but they had to go back. The press followed us and tried to find out where we lived. It is only now that it is known who they were, now that I have decided to publish the book.

Q: Can we learn anything from such a tragic case as the story of poor Maddie?

Unfortunately for the girl, her case has served as a case study. Before I left the police force, on 30th July of this year, a commission had already been set up in order to establish a better way of dealing with this kind of situation.

Q: You have entitled the book "The truth of the lie". What is the big lie in this story?

The truth of the lie is what we call the material truth, the pure truth. The truths are the analyses, the procedures and the mechanism that are covered in the case. The lie, or in other words, the lack of truth, is that the girl is alive. The girl is dead. The McCanns are parents who have lost a daughter whom they surely loved very much and I understand their pain and anguish.

Q: Do you believe that we will know what happened to Maddie one day? Will we get to know the truth?

Yes. There were 9 people in this Holiday Group. Maybe they do not know that the girl is dead, but they could have received instructions about what to say, such as "you went to the room and you saw the girl", however they know that this is not true. By that means the case could be re-opened; one day the full truth could be known.

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Gonçalo Amaral, police chief of the Madeleine case : "Justice is working in silence" Granada Digital

^{Lisardo García Friday, 12/09/2008 08:39}

In the pages of his book 'Maddie. The truth of lie', the reader is confronted with mixed feelings: the agony of parents for their missing daughter and the stubborn quest of a policeman to know what happened that night of May 3rd 2007.

He has spent all his life in the Police; On May 3rd 2007 he was directing the Criminal Investigation Department in Portimao, a city on the Portuguese Algarve. Before 12 o'clock that night a phone call changed his life, he was notified of the disappearance of a 4-year old English girl in Lagos, in an urbanisation called Vila da Luz. He led the investigation for five months until October 2nd 2007 when he was removed without warning. Now comes to light a book which explains what happened: His truth.

GD .- Reading this book, reveals the strong personal and emotional impact that these events have had on you. Is that true?

Yes it is true, but this has nothing to do with any revenge; it answers to the need to respond to many accusations, to many slanders suffered, both personal and at corporate level. During the time I handled the investigation I always said: Justice is working in silence, but in the end I could do no more, I asked my superiors permission to respond to so many lies, but I was refused. I was forced to leave the police in July 2008, after the case was archived, and after 27 years in the Force, to have the freedom to express myself and restore my honour.

GD .- If Justice is working in silence, is this book a cry to have not stopped working?

If it is true, it is a way of saying that it is better to have honour without life, than life without honour.

THE ERRORS OF THE INVESTIGATION

GD .- Following the report of the disappearance, a police squad arrived at the scene. What went wrong?

I do not intend to blame any colleague, although the photo report left much to be desired, by not collecting any person in those photos, when there were a lot of people in the house that night, it would have been important to have that. There were also weaknesses in taking fingerprints. It was normal, we were a small police station without specialised personnel in an investigation of this nature.

Gonçalo Amaral says that Madeleine McCann died that night of May 3, by accident, that an abduction was simulated and that the corpse was hidden, the parents being suspected of this crime.

GD .- What were the most important facts and evidence which led to the parents of Maddie being declared arguidos (suspects)?

Fundamentally the reports from the DNA laboratory in England confirmed the work of the British police dogs who found a cadaver odour and biological traces of the girl in several rooms of the apartment, on the clothes of the mother and in the car that the McCanns rented twenty days after the disappearance of Maddie; another important test is the statement by the Irish family, Smith, who stated that they recognised the father Gerry McCann carrying a girl in his arms, who seemed to be asleep, at 23h00 that night.

GD .- Then, why did your place in the investigation cease and the case be provisionally dismissed recently?

I do not know, it probably had much to do with changing the British police. Whilst the family were in Portugal there was a colleague who supported the thesis of the death of the girl. Later when the couple left Portugal, he changed his line of argument returning to the thesis of abduction; and that change, from one to the other, could have been due to some political pressure because of the significance of the media event. The parents raised more than 2 million pounds to find the girl, do not forget that those dates coincided with the signing of the Treaty of Lisbon. Anyway, it is not understood, not only my retirement, but the filing of the proceedings.

THE WORK OF THE INVESTIGATION AND THE MASS MEDIA

GD .- How do you remember the work of those days?

That it was very hard, working with a lot of pressure, especially from the media that had moved there; there was a huge television presence and an investigation requires a lot of discretion that unfortunately we did not have. I felt like I was kidnapped, we could not eat or go anywhere peacefully. In addition, it was not the only issue that we carried. That was hard, very hard.

GD .- How did you work then?

We sought out a place far away, where all the police officers could meet, it was the called the crisis cabinet, there we shared all the information and decided the steps to continue; it was an investigation of the team, not of a single person.

ON THE FUTURE

GD .- What will be the future of this case?

Right now the summary is closed, if new evidence or the Smith family were willing to testify in Portugal, maybe things would change. I hope that in time it will be the Judge who gives or removes reasons.

GD .- What now? What is your professional future?

I'm thinking of working in support tasks to law firms, preparing criminal reports; conduct investigations. That is my future that I hope will be interesting.

There are many journalists waiting to interview this former policeman; it is noted that he is tired and, at the same time, satisfied; having given his version, he has recomposed the puzzle, his puzzle. In the book's pages the reader will be faced with mixed feelings: the agony of parents for their missing daughter and the stubborn quest of a policeman to know what happened that night of May 3, 2007. The reader and time will have their say.

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Sunday, September 14, 2008

Madeleine McCann: Diary Of an Unconvincing Woman

The News of The World, a British newspaper universally regarded as a waste of a good tree, publishes a heart wrenching diary written by Kate McCann, the woman who along with her dual-persona husband made a conscious decision to leave three little children unattended while they went off for a night out with typical British lager louts abroad.

Kate, you go to great lengths describing how you close bedroom doors, how in the days after Madeleines alleged disappearance you spent time preparing yourself for interviews, receiving phone calls from Gordon Brown and talking to Tony Blair, meeting the Pope, going to amusement parks, jogging, walking on the beach - in fact you mention the beach quite a lot (as did the detective who was formerly head of the investigation, but you know that don't you Kate).

You also mention the rights of "a vulnerable, defenceless child?" Kate, I know this is a stupid question but if you feel so strongly about the rights of vulnerable, defenceless children (your own words) why did you repeatedly leave a three year old in charge of younger siblings?

In fact Kate, you mention a lot of activities - including picking up drunks and walking them home (with a comment "we've all been there"). However there is one activity you fail to mention in your carefully crafted but transparent self-protection exercise.

Searching for Madeleine.

Eddie & Keela in 5A

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Op zondag 14 september 2008 12:47 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
Rondje Anorak, sluit mooi aan bij je eerdere posts, het commentaar wilde ik jullie niet onthouden.
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Zien jullie ook een verschuiving in de berichten of is bij mij de wens de vader van de gedachte? Het lijkt wel of er nu openlijk wordt getwijfeld en de uitingen van de McCanns nu met de langverwachte spot en ironie worden ontvangen. The Saga continuous....

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Op maandag 15 september 2008 10:48 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
Even van een andere orde, die dagboekfragmenten van Kate zijn nu gepubliceerd in een Belgische krant, ik had er moeite mee om ze te lezen, ikke ikke ikke, kijk maar:
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Ze adresseerd Maddie zelf dat ze terug moet komen want zij kan niet tegen de onzekerheid, zij heeft haar nodig, zij is bang om verbitterd te raken en dat het hun levens gaat verwoesten.

Dit snap ik niet, gillende paniek omdat je kind weg is begrijp ik, woede omdat ze nog niet is gevonden ook, ontzettende spijt omdat ze haar alleen hebben gelaten snap ik ook maar dit, zelfbeklag, veveeldheid omdat God niet antwoord, mopperen op de politie vanwege het zich niet voorstellen of eten en drinken aanbieden, het is net alsof zij het slachtoffer is van de verdwijning van hun dochter en dat de hele wereld tegen haar is.......

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Op zaterdag 31 mei 2008 20:14 schreef Suko het volgende:
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Nog een stukje over het gebruik van sniffer dogs (Eddy en Keela waren de honden die bloedsporen en lichaamsvocht van Madeleine hebben gevonden), iets waar de McCanns via een een Amerikaanse rechtszaak hun twijfels over hadden, 16 September 2007 de Daily Mail: McCanns consult American lawyers over 'cadaver dog' evidence, een fragment:
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Verrassing! Bron Cadaver dog 'evidence' in Zapata case shown to be correct, 31 May 2008
Within a week of the McCanns being made arguidos and returning to the UK, their legal team had consulted the lawyers of an American man accused of murdering his estranged wife in a case where cadaver dog evidence was key.

The McCann's legal team requested the files on this case in order to discredit the reliability and effectiveness of cadaver dogs. Indeed, the judge ruled that the evidence that led to the charge could not be put before the jury. He said the dogs were too unreliable in detecting the odour of remains and noted that no remains were actually found. However, Eugene Zapata has now confessed to the crime. The cadaver dog was right. The report concerning Zapata's guilty plea can be viewed here. < Uit dit artikel: "Blanchard said because Jeanette Zapata's body was dumped in numerous Dumpsters at the landfill, there is no way to recover her remains." Hoe gruwelijk ook, de sporen op verschillende plekken zijn door die honden dus wél juist opgemerkt...

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The Expresso interview revisited by Gonçalo Amaral

“It is false, wrong, most of the replies are not true”
^{by: Hernâni Carvalho}
Nobody is searching for Madeleine McCann anymore, but within the same week, an English newspaper revealed five minutes of the dogs’ work looking for Maddie, the McCanns spoke to ‘Expresso’ and Gonçalo Amaral spoke in an exclusive to ‘tvmais’. It doesn’t look like the same process anymore

The former PJ coordinator who directed the Maddie case, Gonçalo Amaral, is more accessible. He received ‘tvmais’ in his home in Portimão and he accepted to read the interview that the McCanns gave to ‘Expresso’ with us. He accepted to reply to the same questions, but he gave very different answers. “It is false, wrong, most of the replies are not true”, was what we heard him say most often. Concerning his relationship with the couple, he says they knew each other well. “They knew who I was and they knew what my functions were.” Gonçalo Amaral left a challenge for Maddie’s mother: “The lady should explain herself better. When she said that my personal behaviour was a disgrace, was she referring to me as a father?”.

Concerning the couple’s accusations, the former coordinator said very little. “I don’t know the McCanns’ concept of illicit enrichment. I wrote the book to defend my reputation, my dignity and that of all those who worked with me. I intend to continue to contribute to the discovery of the truth. Not everything one does in life is done for money. The statements from that couple seem to appear following an organized campaign of defamation that targeted me during and after the investigation. It will be interesting to discover who is actually responsible for that campaign.”

During the same week in which the McCanns spoke to ‘Expresso’, the PJ’s officer who was responsible for the Maddie case, Gonçalo Amaral, answered the same questions, in an exclusive for ‘tvmais’. The result could hardly be more different.

What impression did you get from the process? Were you shocked over its contents?
(The McCanns mentioned entire volumes of investigations about them.)
It is false. There were not those volumes about the McCanns that they mention in interviews.

Don’t you think that everything that was possible to do, was done? The investigation reached Poland, the Netherlands, Spain, Morocco…
(The couple refers examples of what went wrong with the PJ in Morocco.)
It is false. The PJ never went to Morocco because of Maddie. The sightings were always treated by the local authorities.

If Madeleine had disappeared in England, would things have been different?
(Gerry says yes because the English police is more experienced in abductions.)
Why did the McCanns never want to present a formal complaint about the girl’s disappearance with the English authorities? They have the legal competence to receive the disappearance of any British subject! Maybe the couple would have to explain the circumstances under which the little girl disappeared… Why do the McCanns insist in hiring private detectives? And by the way, has the English police already found the girl that disappeared in England, on the same day as Maddie?

If you have an important clue concerning Madeleine’s whereabouts, will you transmit it to the Portuguese police?
(Gerry said that only when the couple feels that they cannot advance any further on their own.)
I don’t know whether they will do it. But in order not to feel alone, they should contact the English police…

Do you trust the Portuguese authorities, after having been considered suspects?
(Gerry explains that the couple was only investigated months after the disappearance and that once the suspicion is installed, they cannot prove their innocence.)
The McCanns never trusted the Portuguese police. That is the feeling that I have. And it seems that they don’t trust the English police, either.

Didn’t you find it strange that the dogs found traces of blood in your room and in your rental car…
(Gerry states that “No blood was found!”)
What is strange is the blood and the odour that were marked by the dogs in a car that was rented 23 days after the girl’s disappearance.

40 apartments were investigated and the dogs only marked yours. Ten cars and they only reacted to yours.
(Gerry states that the dogs failed a test in the USA.)
The dogs only marked locations and items that were used by the McCanns, which is an indicium that cannot be simply erased and which must be clarified.

Were you surprised when you were made arguidos?
(Gerry says that the media spent weeks saying that the McCanns were suspects)
They knew it already. When they were summoned, Mrs Kate reacted aggressively and screamed at the inspector who notified them. There is a detailed report of that in the process, written by the person who notified them. The worries that were expressed by Mrs Kate at that moment are very curious.

Do you investigate information that point towards Madeleine’s death?
(We want to find her alive, Kate stated.)
The McCanns were the first who gave a signal that the little girl could be dead. They hired a South-African expert who finds dead missing people and it was Mrs Kate who gave us an email that mentioned that the little girl was dead.

Do you still believe that she’s alive?
(Kate: “There are great possibilities that she is alive, isn’t it? There is nothing in the process to indicate that something bad has happened to her…”)
Maddie is dead. The Public Ministry went further and objectively mentioned homicide.

But there are no indicia that she has been abducted, either.
(Kate refers that Jane Tunner [sic] and the Smith couple saw a man with a little girl.)
The only indicia with credibility result from the depositions that were given by the Smith family. They speak about a man carrying an inanimate child on the way to the beach area.

The PJ discredits Jane Tanner’s testimony. They say that when she saw said man with the child, you [Gerry] were chatting nearby and it was impossible that you hadn’t seen him as well…
(Gerry says he didn’t see because his back was turned while he was chatting with a friend.)
Jane Tanner’s testimony has evolved in an inverse manner to human mentality. Initially, she had seen only a person at a distance. As time went by, she started remembering details in such a manner that at the end, she even remembered the texture of the clothing that the man and the little girl were wearing. That was how she pointed at Murat. The only deposition that is credible is the Smiths’.

Later on, that family stated that the man they saw was Gerry…
(Gerry says that he was at the restaurant at that time.)
The time at which the alarm of the disappearance was raised was never confirmed. The time that was reported by the Smiths always places Mr Gerry away from the dinner table. I know that the Smiths exist since the 16th of May, 2007. The McCanns probably do, as well. Why did they never wish to mention them in public. Whoever took the little girl on that evening did in fact cross ways with the Smiths.

Was it a coincidence that you were made arguidos on one day and returned home the next day?
(“The PJ knew about our return.”)
It was no coincidence. We knew about the couple’s departure since the day that the dogs started working.

Were you afraid of being arrested?
(Obviously… It was scary)
False. They always knew that the crimes that were at issue, according to the Portuguese law, would not give origin to a detention unless caught in flagrant. “Concealment of a cadaver and simulation of a crime”.

Being in England, you would not be extradited anymore.
(Gerry: “It was better not to be in Portugal at that point in time.”)
Theoretically, extradition is an instrument of international judiciary cooperation…

Why?
(Kate: “Because of the hostile environment.”)
They were made arguidos in order to have more rights. They used them well.

Why did Kate refuse to answer questions during your interrogation, that Gerry accepted to clarify the next day?
(Kate says she was advised by the lawyer not to reply, Gerry says he was advised as well but preferred to disobey.)
Wrong. The questioning was not the same. There were questions that were asked from Kate, to which only she could answer. Those questions remain unanswered until this day.

Why didn’t you authorize the police to see the messages that you sent and received on your mobile phone on the eve of Maddie’s disappearance.
(Gerry: “Nobody asked to see my messages.”)
False. The couple signed an authorization and a document was made with the reading of their telephones’ registry. When we read those registries, we detected calls that had been erased and other curiosities that were noted in the process files…

The chief inspector in the case, Tavares de Almeida, writes a report where he says that your friends lied to save you, that Maddie died in the living room, and that you hid the body.
(Gerry: “Ask the police why they saw us as suspects.”)
Wrong, just read the process.

The majority of crimes where the victims are children are committed by the parents.
(Gerry: “Not in the case of abducted children.”)
And even in abduction cases, very often, they are related to the parents.

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The “Sun” newspaper reduced 3 hours into 5 minutes

The dogs that are trained to detect cadaver and human blood odour were proposed to carry out searches in Praia da Luz by the English policemen themselves. Expert Mark Harrison suggested the use of British dogs that are experts in detecting cadavers, in a report that he sent to the English police. The searches that Keela and Eddie carried out in Praia da Luz were taped on video. Tvmais has already accessed the three hours of images. British newspaper “Sun” reduced them into five minutes, changed the recording order and omitted parts of the dog handler’s explanations. Eddie and Keela are sniffer dogs of the springer spaniel breed, especially trained to detect cadaver and human blood odour. In the video, Eddie (that detects cadaver odour) can be seen in a garage where ten cars are parked. The dog runs towards the Renault Mégane [sic] that the McCanns rented 23 days after their daughter’s disappearance. Keela (trained to find blood traces) marked the boot of the same vehicle. In the same video, the dogs can be seen marking the McCanns’ apartment after searching in 40 apartments. Tvmais knows that these dogs have passed all the tests that they were subject to by the FBI, and that they never gave a single “false positive result”. According to expert Martin Grime, the dogs have not failed in over 200 searches that they have carried out until this day. Faced with the same tests, the FBI dogs did not complete one third of the tests. Keela and Eddie are protected by an insurance of 7.5 million euros each. English expert Martin Grime recently signed a millionaire contract with the FBI to work for American police. He has not left for the US yet, because the searches for cadavers in an English shelter are ongoing and the dogs are on location, fulfilling their mission to 100 percent.

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Truth or consequence?

When Gonçalo Amaral published “Maddie, the Truth about the Lie”, the McCanns’ spokesman announced that the couple would sue the former PJ investigation coordinator. Clarence Mitchell knew that he was bluffing. Any process against Gonçalo Amaral will allow him to reveal issues that were devalued within the Maddie process, during a trial. The devaluation prevented the process from reaching a court room. It would not be now that the couple would want some questions to get there. Furthermore, the McCanns continue to state that they have not read the book…

Once again, Mitchell bluffed.

Abduction, disappearance or death?

The FindMadeleine Fund was created on the presumption that the little girl disappeared because she was abducted. The fund started to receive money from members of the public who wanted to contribute to the ongoing search for the little girl. Several detectives were hired for that, despite the fact that the McCann couple never presented a complaint about the disappearance of Madeleine to the English authorities.

And they should, just like other British subjects did in the past. In order to search for Madeleine, among others, the detectives from agency Metodo 3 were hired, who promised to deliver the little girl on Christmas 2007. And Oakley International, which states that it employs former members of the FBI and from the British secret services. What is known from this agency’s work is the discovery that Mr Joaquim Agostinho, from Altura, in Monte Gordo, resembled the photofits? Tvmais has discovered that Oakley has presented 30.000 (?) euros during the fiscal year of 2007. Which seems to indicate that spies are on sale. But no. Just the two invoices that were written by these two agencies almost sank the FindMadeleine fund.

Some multimillionaires that used to contribute to pay for the detectives (Brian Kennedy, for example) stopped doing so. The fund that was founded to search for a missing girl, will presumably end as soon as someone proves that the little girl is dead. At least that is what the British law foresees. Until then, the search for the girl continues. The McCanns received a compensation of over 500.000 euros from the British newspapers. With a little more money that the FindMadeleine fund may still hold, the search will continue. Maybe at more modest prices.

in: tvmais, September 15, 2008* Translation by super-fantastic Astro *paper edition.
Related: McCanns in Expresso- Interview

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Op dinsdag 16 september 2008 17:09 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
Ik denk dat ik weet waarom de McCanns nog geen actie ondernemen, vers van de pers:
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Adem inhouden dus en hopelijk wordt het nu eindelijk eens wat meer duidelijk....

En deze:
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Hmm, zouden de gegevens over vermeende pedofielen dan ook naar buiten komen, die zijn toch wel bekeken maar niet vrijgegeven aan de PJ?

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Op dinsdag 16 september 2008 17:43 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Ik begin voorzichtig te denken dat er idd een net geplaatst wordt, als de zaak echt publiek gemaakt gaat worden dan denk ik dat er veel meer ranzigheid uit de beerput komt.

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17/09/08 Open Letter: Gonçalo Amaral Wife reacts Ironically to Kate's Attack

Open letter to Mrs Kate Healy

Dear Madam,

You will forgive my boldness, but after I read your comment (in an interview to Expresso newspaper) concerning Gonçalo Amaral, my husband and the father of my daughters, I cannot avoid sending you these words of gratefulness. For many years, I have been trying to make myself heard in this sentiment that unites us both: "…as a professional and as a person his behaviour has been a disgrace." Look at it closely:

a) Professionally

- As a Coordinator of Criminal Investigation for the Polícia Judiciária, my husband has always refused to sit around from 9 to 5 in the comfortable chair in his office, as his hierarchical status implies. Instead, he spent the day (and very often, the night) with the investigators on the terrain, coordinating searches, surveillances, apprehensions and other diligences 'in loco'. A disgrace!

But if it was only the fact that he was subject to the weather, it wouldn't be serious, as our climate is not too bad, as you know. The problem is that this dedication to the cause has earned him a non promotion in his career. Indeed, I will explain this to you, even because this case happened when the searches for your daughter were under way. My husband applied to the category of Superior Coordinator, and in between drug apprehensions, sequestrations and homicides, he somehow managed to produce a thesis about drug trafficking by sea, which he defended in Lisbon, in front of a Jury that congratulated him. Full of hope, Gonçalo Amaral returns to the Algarve and awaits the result. To his surprise, he was passed over by other colleagues (real coordinators, truth be told), because he had not been able to score points in the "professional formation" parameter. That's right, Mrs Kate, my husband spent his life working, involved in complex investigations, he was the man who apprehended the highest volumes of drugs in Portugal, but given the fact that he had no time to go to Lisbon to parade himself up and down the corridors of the PJ's Institute, he was not promoted. A disgrace, madam, a disgrace!

- As you probably know, even because you seem like a very well informed person to me, my husband's salary was less than 1.5 times the lowest salary in your country. But as a wife, as a mother and as a Portuguese citizen, I can't complain, because Gonçalo Amaral's salary was equal to 4.5 times the lowest salary in Portugal. But pay attention to the following, which is an example of what I'm going to explain next: At some point, an individual shoots a member of the PSP [urban police] and flees into neighbouring Spain. A PJ team follows him, including my husband. They stayed there for over two weeks. Now at that time, the international expense coverage was around 100 euros. As you can easily imagine, it's not possible to sleep and eat in Spain with this amount of money, much less shortly before Christmas and taking into account that the value will only be paid at around Easter time (if one's lucky). But Gonçalo Amaral never refused, not even for one day, to search for the escaped murderer, relaying the expenses onto our family accounts. And this is just one example among many. At some point in time, I suggested that we should create a fund or something similar to deal with these extraordinary expenses, but he never listened to me. You see, we also have mortgages to pay around here… A disgrace, Mrs Kate, a disgrace!

b) As a person, his behaviour has also been a disgrace, because to begin with we could never distinguish that he even had a personal life, due to the manner in which he dealt with the profession that he embraced. But if my good friend Mrs Kate allows me, I can offer you some examples:

- 5 years ago, a child named Joana "disappeared". Her mother, just like you, Mrs Kate, tried to project the case into the media, but she didn't make it any further than SIC…

Eight days later, came the confessions and the evidence: during an incestuous act between mother and uncle, the child was beaten, then dismembered and her body dumped who knows where. Mother and uncle went to jail, in a process that was coordinated by Gonçalo Amaral and which earned them almost 20 years in jail, each. But let us go a bit back in time. The child died on the 12th of September. On Christmas eve, our family was reunited for prayer, when my husband asked me to prepare a bag with some food and warm clothes, because he had not carried out his Christmas act of penance. Can you, Mrs Kate, imagine where Gonçalo Amaral went on that Christmas night under heavy rain and thunder? He went to the Olhão Prison, where João Cipriano, Joana's uncle, a confessed murderer and a clinically diagnosed psychopath, is detained. According to my husband, to simply offer an alimony to some beggar was not a sacrifice to him. The fact that he embraced and shared his Christmas meal with João Cipriano was the sacrifice that he offered to God, in memory of Joana. Is this not a disgrace? You should also know that every year, on the 12th of September, my husband has a mass celebrated in memory of Joana Isabel Cipriano Guerreiro. He says that nobody will ever remember the poor little girl again. Right, but they remember to unjustly accuse him of actions and crimes that he never committed. Isn't this a disgrace, Mrs Kate?

- There is a last episode that I will report to you, one that I still find hard to talk about. Last year, in May, we started to move our family to Portimão. My husband was supposed to enjoy a holiday period starting on the day after your daughter's disappearance. "For obvious reasons" that didn't happen. I started on a new job, looked for a house, moved house, and tried to integrate our daughters in new schools and new routines. All of this I did alone, without any help from my husband, who for obvious reasons, was looking for your daughter, Mrs Kate. In October, on his birthday, a week after our daughters started school, Gonçalo Amaral was dismissed and returned to Faro. This was supposed to be the time of the family's reunion and it turned out to be another separation. Isn't this a disgrace? Our daughters never managed to understand, and we never managed to explain to them what obvious reasons were those that rewarded in this manner a father who left his own daughters to go looking for a child that he had never met and whose parents had neglected her. It was a pity that my dear friend Mrs Kate was not around anymore at that date, because you could have been very helpful to me in explaining these "obvious reasons" that led to their father's dismissal, to our daughters.

Finally, I can only report to you that intimately, Gonçalo Amaral is precisely what the latinos are famed for: shameless, as my pudency does not allow me to write any further.

I ask you, my good friend, to forgive these confidences from a wife and mother, but I'm certain that you will understand. I finish this letter asking you to send your mother my most sincere praises. She sounded so sincere to me, when during an interview she referred that she felt like slapping the face of the person who left her grandchildren alone. She spoke so openly that she sounded like a genuine Portuguese grandmother…

My dear friend Mrs Kate, without wishing to bother you any further, I would like to request one last favour from you: now that you have started to tell some truths, please continue, and let the world hear the truth that it has been waiting for.

Best regards,
Sofia Leal
Wife and Mother of the Daughters of Gonçalo Amaral

Source: Correio da Manhã by Joana Morais

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"The dogs were prevented from continuing their work in the United Kingdom"

The following: "Gonçalo Amaral in Madrid:" The PJ was forced to issue a press release announcing the abduction of Madeleine."

Gonçalo Amaral, coordinator of the Criminal Investigation Department (CID) of the Judicial Police (PJ) in Portimão, was out of the investigation in the disappearance of Madeleine in a key moment in the investigation: Kate and Gerry had become arguidos and investigators had compiled a list of procedures aimed specifically at the couple's friends and holidays.

"After intervention by Mark Harrison, and the results obtained by the two dogs trackers, Eddie and Keela, we thought it would be important to continue the investigation in the United Kingdom," said Gonçalo Amaral.

"Eddie and Keela had indicated that objects or places in direct relationship with McCann, but it is important to check the United Kingdom if the dogs could give us more answers," says even the inspector, adding that " the idea was to bring the two dogs in McCann to Rothley, but also among their friends, especially one of them."

"When the idea surfaced, the first thing they called me (a British officer) was that politically it would be very difficult to do… I was told that my job was to ' investigate a crime and not be politically correct." "We even prepared a sketch of the letter rogatory requesting that the two dogs (Eddie and Keela) can continue their research in England, but we do not let me go further," said the inspector.

"The other diligence that I wanted to heart, and which has also been impossible to do was to bring in Portugal witnesses Irish, in particular Martin Smith, who claimed to have seen Gerry McCann carrying a child in its arm."

"Bringing witnesses in the same place and recreate the same situation would have been important, especially when we know that there are agents of the GNR who claimed to have seen the father of the little back from the same place, this time without children in his arms," concludes Amaral.

With the arrival of October, more precisely on October 2, coincidentally his birthday day, Gonçalo Amaral, in a maneuver carefully prepared, is removed from the investigation in the disappearance of Madeleine, not for incompetence or lack of results, but simply accused of having denounced out loud what many thought to themselves: the lack of cooperation from British authorities.

Once Gonçalo Amaral dismissed from his post as a coordinator of DIC Portimão away from the investigation and the disappearance of Madeleine, the national executive decides to replace Paulo Rebelo, a man known to be close to Alipio Ribeiro and the left. Duarte Levy & Paulo

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Op woensdag 17 september 2008 15:01 schreef SunChaser het volgende:
Heeft Kate het dagboek niet gewoon onlangs gschreven en zogenaamd laten lekken?

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Op vrijdag 19 september 2008 14:56 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Het rondje Anorak gaat hier ook over vandaag:
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Hoe dan ook weer een mooi smoke screen, ik ben benieuwd wat er nu weer boven komt drijven, telkens als er zo'n bommetje ontploft moet er iets anders onder het tapijt.

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5.8.08 McCann will not take legal action against Portuguese Government Rogério Alves, former Bar Association President, told today that the McCann couple “don't see any reason to sue the Portuguese Government.” Mr. Alves said that Gerry and Kate “were obviously frustrated because they couldn't find what happened to their daughter and who was responsible for it, but they don't infer that (Portuguese) police has done a bad job, or that there is any reason to sue the Portuguese Government.” Talking to “Barlavento Online” a Algarve news site, Mr. Alves admitted that, after the analysis to the 30 thousand pages of the files is finished, “we can reach the conclusion that we should do nothing and just leave everything as it is”, concerning further legal action for reopen the investigation of appeal to the Public Prosecutor's Office. “The fact that the investigation hasn't found what was the crime and the perpetrator doesn't mean that police has done a bad job”, the McCann lawyer said.

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EVIDENCE REVIEW

1. Cadaver dogs signalled at a number of places in the apartment and around the car (but re the latter, the only material found did not elicit the response). Blood dogs signalled in both the apartment and the car.

2. There was a 99.9% certain DNA match with Madeleine in the hire car - the Renault Scenic.
[This is my (and others') interpretation of press reports of the evidence file which refer to the match involving identification of 15 out of 19 DNA markers (the four outstanding being too degraded for analysis). However, this is a controversial area as the FSS issued a downbeat summary of the evidence. But that was couched in such general terms that it is difficult to see how it justifies the match being ignored. Clearly this matter cannot be fully resolved until we have access to the full evidence file.] Amaral, the leading police investigator at the time the FSS reached its conclusion, stated in interview with Hola (12.9.08) "the girl’s blood was found as well as in a car rented 23 days later".

Also [thanks to Cati] Apartment 5A: Eddie, the 'cadaver dog' and Keela, the 'blood dog' marked on the same local: behind the sofa (which according to the PJ was moved by the McCanns). The tiles were removed and sent to FSS. The blood found by keela was degraded and the lab was able to check only 5 markers. They ALL matched madeleine's DNA.

So all the forensic evidence is fully compatible with the parental involvement theory.

3. KMC refused to answer 48 questions put to her by PJ.

4. Among the questions asked of both GMC and KMC were questions enquiring as to whether they had considered relinquishing their parenting rights over Madeleine i.e. putting her up for guardianship by a relative, or for adoption. KMC refused to answer. GMC appears to have denied that was the case. Not clear what grounds the PJ had for asking this question.

5. MMC's bed appeared to be relatively undisturbed. Some accounts suggest there was no evidence of it having been slept in. Other accounts note the shape of a sleeping child. I wonder at the fact that the parents did not throw back the cover to look for signs of blood or a kidnap note.

6. From photographs it does appear that the window would be a difficult egress point. (However that is hardly of much relevance to the general credibility of an abduction scenario given there could be an accomplice.)

7. Kate and Gerry had a serious row on the night of 2nd May/morning of 3rd May. Kate slept in children's room. (Claims she slept in cot. But one poster suggests perhaps she slept with Maddy in her bed.)

8. Two doctors (one a close college friend of KMC) made a serious allegation about one of the Tapas 7 and GMC. The witness statement made early in May was not passed by UK Police to PJ for seven months, until Jan 08.

9. McCanns refused to return for reconstruction because they feared prosecution for negligence.

10. KMC threatened PJ with "government pressure" if they took her in for formal questioning.

11. Portugese Prosecutors produced an incredible "pro" summary of the evidence. They ruled out negligence charges on the basis that the McCanns had "suffered enough already". Interesting legal concept. Surely applies to all parents who lose their children as a result of negligence. [Do any Portugese commentators wish to add to this?]

12. Brian Kennedy approached Martin Smith key witness who had identified GMC carrying a child on 3rd May. Presumably he did so on behalf of the McCanns rather than himself (since he has not been accused of anything). [Personally I think witness statements dating from Sept 07 supposedly relating back to May 07 are worthless.]

Amaral wanted to have the Irishman return to Portugal for questioning re his later identification of the man carrying a child towards the beach on the night of Madeleine's disappearance. The PJ did include Martin Smith in the rogatory letters sent to the Home Office, but because of his domicile in the Republic of Ireland was not legally covered for re-questioning by the Leicestershire police.

13. There was some sort of large cold bag in the boot of the Scenic. Photos have appeared showing the bag. It appears to have some relevance to the DNA sampling but no confirmation on that yet.

14. Jane Tanner appears to have changed her evidence. Whereas on the Panorama programme (made with her co-operation and with respect to which she made no correction) Gerry McCann and Jes Wilkins were shown as standing on the other side of the road as she passed, her drawing of relative positions contained in the evidence file shows they were on the same side of the road. She must therefore have passed directly by them. However she has given no indication that she said hello to GMC - which if she did not is remarkable. JW denies seeing her. GMC has never said he saw her as far as we know [now confirmed in evidence].

Apparently JW now thinks he could have his back to the top of the road and so would not have seen "bundleman". Not really relevant in any case. But of course if he was talking to GMC one might expect GMC to be facing the other way in which case he too should have seen bundleman.

15. Frances Kennah, the Head of UK Central Authority,Home Office refused a request from PJ for details of GMC's ATM cards on the grounds that the request was disproportionate. (Homicide is clearly not considered a very important matter in the UK Central Authority.)

16. Catriona Baker, Maddy's personal nanny, stated that the McCanns did no searching for Madeleine on the night of 3rd/4th May. She also stated that Maddy became frightened and started crying when she was taken on a boat trip in PDL. Now appears that Maddy is confirmed by the nannies as being part of the boat trip party on morning of 3rd May. [Note: This is still a matter of some controversy. There appear as yet to be no details of Catriona Baker's witness statement. No Tapas 7 members claim to have seen Madeleine on 3rd May, except perhaps for David Payne, visiting early evening, though he does not mention her by name.]No confirmatory photos though. May be a lot more to add on the day's events. Only fingerprints found on the window frame in Maddeleine's bedroom (the one with the infamous so-called jemmied shutter) were Kate McCann's. No sign of any abductor entering or exiting via that window!

17. Cuddlecat photographed as being on Madeleine's bed. No sign of any high shelf, as originally described by Kate McCann. However, it is not known whether she claims to have taken it down from the "high shelf" and then put it back on the bed where it would normally be found.

18. PJ were concerned about the four photographs of Madeleine said to have been downloaded from a digital camera and printed by Gerry McCann on the night of her disappearance on a printer at the Ocean Club. PJ maintain that they could not have been rinted there in that format. However: [Thanks to Paulo Reis] The printer used for the pictures of Madeleine belonged to a British member of the staff of Ocean Club. She brought it from her room to the reception. The pictures were printed using a memory card given to her by Russel O'Brien, around midnight. PJ wanted to check the printer, but she said that her boyfriend took it with him,to France. Anyway, experts from the PJ Laboratory considered that it was almost impossible to get a specific "fingerprint" from the pictures produced by that kind of printer.

19. Metodo 3, once hired, concentrated its early efforts on Robert Murat in its search for Madeleine, but the PJ found their evidence "speculative and without basis."

20. Rachael Mampilly Oldfield was the person who contacted the BBC, at around 2 a.m. on the morning of May 4th, to report the disappearance of Madeleine. No mention of the Sky TV contact.

21. KMC is reported by a Tapas 7 friend as hitting the wall in frustration at Maddy's disappearance. It is stated this caused bruising. No explanation of how far this bruising spread.

22. [Thanks to Paulo Reis] Gerry's fury: When GNR arrived, Gerry McCann walked to them, kneeled down and put both his hands in the ground, in the same position as a Muslim praying, and shouted twice, with rage in his voice, saying something that the witnesses close to them could not understand. Note: Interesting observation - Freemason sign is to raise both hands in the air, palm forwards. Possibly consistent with this gesture? - which might otherwise be considered unusual for a professional person of his background. However, this is pure speculation.

23. Tanner and O'Brien left their 11 month old baby whom they knew to be ill (restless, unable to sleep) in the apartment with its sibling. They went off to enjoy themselves with friends.

24. Tanner claims to have known that GMC was on the way back from 5A when she "saw" him and Jeremy Wilkins talking together.

25. Not clear, but possible Tanner may have been claiming that she saw the abductor emerging from the alley (rear of the property).

26. Both Tanner and O'Brien were (by Tanner's admission to the Police) very close to the crime scene around the relevant time.

27. Tanner did not use a mobile phone to contact her partner when Oldfield informed her that O'B was staying at the apartment because their 11 month old baby was unwell. She hurried to finish her meal and then went to rejoin her partner, O'Brien at about 9.40.

28. Tanner's account to police about how she heard of Maddy's disappearance is at slight but significant variance from the Panorama account. In Panorama, she hears a commotion, opens the door and is then informed in a matter of fact way by FP that "Maddy's gone." In the interview statement, it appears she heard both KMC and FP screaming that Madeleine had been taken whilst still in the flat. An odd discrepancy, made odder by the fact that the Panorama account sounds singularly unconvincing.

29. [Thanks to Vanilla Biscuit] There were early reports that 2 of the Tapas men were tired on the evening of the 3rd because they had been out rowing that afternoon, but those reports had been whoosh-clunked and very few other posters seemed to remember them, but it is confirmed in Tanner's statement: 'At 2.45, after she had finished playing tennis, JT went back to her apartment where she stayed with her daughter Evie.Her husband and Matthew Oldfield had gone sailing.'

30. Kate McCann confirms that JT revealed her claimed sighting of the abductor on the night of 3rd/4th May and she was aware of it. There is no indication that this led to any particular focus for the search.

31. [Thanks to Swannie for this observation.]According to Payne's April 2008 statement in Leics from Paulo Reis http://gazetadigitalmadel(...)nnis-tournament.html

"David knocked at the A5 apartment about 6:30pm. Kate had JUST FINISHED HAVING A BATH and David saw that the kids were already bathed and were in their pyjamas, playing around. It was Gerry who asked him to check on Kate and the kids, Payne told Police. According to Kate, David knocked at the door (the door facing the swimming pool). She just put a towel around her, went to the living room and they had a brief talk."

Yet according to Kate's statement taken on May 4th 2007:

"Yesterday, after the daily routine, Madeleine and the twins went to bed at around 7.30. They were in their respective beds. The interviewee and her husband stayed in their apartment to relax until 8.30pm. SHE TOOK A BATH did her make-up and drank a glass of New Zealand wine with her husband."

32. Video of Eddie and Keela (highly skilled at detecting cadaver/blood scents) at work has been released. Shows that the dogs' indications were very clear. On the basis that studies have shown accuracy in the 90-100% range (taking a 95% figure), the mathematical chances of them mis-identifying 7 locations [note - I think it was 7 separate locations - to be double checked] is 64 million to one. It appears there is no evidence of the dogs having mis-identified in any other case.

33. Amaral has indicated during a speech in Madrid that : "The PJ was forced to issue a press release [on 5th May 2007] announcing the abduction of Madeleine" . John Buck, the British Ambassador in Lisbon at the time of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance went to Portimão to demand that the PJ immediately announce to the media – especially the British media – that the disappearance of Madeleine was an abduction and that her parents, Kate and Gerry McCann were two innocent victims. According to sources close to the British Embassy in Lisbon, the Ambassador John Buck, previous to this intervention at the PJ in Faro and Portimão, has already discussed the affair with the Portuguese Minister for Foreign Affairs.

Clarrie nonsense shown to be rubbish:

1. Dutch sighting of Ms. Stam. Dutch Police did investigate and passed conclusions to PJ. Dutch Police ruled there was no possibility the girl in question was Madeleine. [Sure there will be more to follow on this - the fact that Dutch Police were certain about this, suggests perhaps the Dutch Police know something about Ms. Stam or her report that we don't. Can any Dutch posters help? Update: Disparaging posts about Ms. Stam have been left on a Dutch website by someone claiming to be a neighbour of hers. Not known if these are genuine.]

2. Two e fits - bloke staring at the Ocean resort - person traced. Barrington Gordon Norton.
Music teacher. Known in PDL. Nothing to link him with case.

3. Interpol confirm there is no credibility to the UK tip off of a Belgian paedo ring "ordering up" Maddy. Clarrie's attempt to imply this was ignored is shown to be a complete and utter pack of whatever.

4. Sky News' Greg Milam confirms that all CCTV "Maddy" images have been followed up by PJ and none have any credibility. While he reports this the CCTV still of a young girl that was used by UK press with the Miss Stam story was shown - suggesting that the coupling of that with the Stam story (on many websites and in newspapers) was indeed COMPLETELY BOGUS.

5. Even the McCanns are now reported as reluctant to commit to sightings. Hardly surprising given the history of such sightings.

6. Clarrie has in previous interviews claimed there was confusion about the timings and that this was understandable because all (or,later, many) of the Tapas 9 did not have watches or mobile phones with them. It is clear from the statements that NONE of those interviewed claim any great difficulty in determining the timing of their movements on the evening of 3rd May.

7. On the appearance of "The Truth About the Lie" Clarence Mitchell said that lawyers are studying Amaral's book as a "matter of urgency".

"Mr Amaral will face immediate and swift legal action if he in any way implies, either directly or indirectly, that Kate and Gerry were involved in the disappearance or harming of their daughter," he said.

Ongoing thread on The 3 Arguidos forum

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Op dinsdag 23 september 2008 13:30 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Idd weing nieuws, alleen rondje anorak en dat gaat over de christians praying for Maddy:
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Hmm, leuk overzicht, maar idd, de aandacht is aan het verslappen, als er in de nabije toekomst geen breaking news komt denk ik dat een nieuw topic even moet wachten totdat er idd breaking news is, wat jij?

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Christians around the world joined in prayer on Friday for the safe return of missing Madeleine McCann and the release of all children held by criminal networks.

Do the Christians know what happened to Madeleine, then?

The worldwide day of prayer was organised by the Madeleine Prayer Circle.

Join hands…

The group’s John Wearne says:

“We feel that the battle is spiritual and by going through prayer that God will listen to the cries of His people and that this will sway the spiritual balance in Madeleine’s favour.”

Demons took her?

“Everything is done through God and there is total belief that one day Madeleine will one day come home. God may have a greater plan for others and may well be using Madeleine in that plan. We petition God always for His will to be done and ask that Madeleine be brought home.”

So it was God that took Madeleine?

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Op dinsdag 23 september 2008 14:23 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
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Lijkt mij ook een goed plan, magoed, misschien dat er een modje kan zeggen of andere meelezers of het fijn is om wel een topic te houden, waar misschien dan wat minder in wordt gepost, of dat we alleen een doorbraak moeten melden, wat dan weer meer iets is voor in Nieuws......?
Natuurlijk blijf ik het wel in de gaten houden maar zoals het nu is posten we alleen maar de onzin berichten van met name Anorak en de hersenspinsels van fora, ook wel heel gezellig natuurlijk maar niet echt meldenswaardige items.

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Op woensdag 24 september 2008 15:26 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Goed plan, dit was het enige 'nieuws' van vandaag.....
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"Despite waxing lyrical about what a lovely child she was, not one member of Madeleines family is prepared to speak up for her. Aunty Phil now knows nothing was JEMMIED as do all the rest of them, they all know that the little girl they profess to love was booked into the creche for every session and was left alone every evening but not one CARES poor-Madeleine .

No Grandma or Grandpa No Aunty No Uncle No Cousin No Godparent No Parents Friend No Friends parents, No lawyer , No Judge , No Member of Parliament, No serving British policeman, No British journalist No one prepared to ask awkward questions on her behalf . Anyone who knew her who has done nothing to bring her justice and done everything to hide the truth is every bit as guilty as the person by whose action she died. I sincerely hope that all those who know her parents have lied and are still supporting them are haunted by that little girls miserable holiday and sad short life however much they pretend it was otherwise-behaviour charts for a three year old -how sinister is that FSS?"