[US2008] Primaries #19 - To the streets of Philadelphia

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Op vrijdag 28 maart 2008 15:29 schreef matthijst het volgende:
Tsja, dat niemand Hillary aan d'r verstand kan peuteren dat ze beter kan stoppen, ik vat t ook niet

Laat die superdelegates alvast gedwongen kiezen, dan is in ieder geval eerder duidelijk wat de uitkomst zal zijn...

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Op vrijdag 28 maart 2008 15:23 schreef PJORourke het volgende:

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Romney is een lul met vingers, maar geen extremist of incompetente idioot. Een betere president dan kandidaat, vermoed ik.

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"It seems that Europe leads Americans in this way of thinking," Romney told the crowd of more than 5,000. "In France, for instance, I'm told that marriage is now frequently contracted in seven-year terms where either party may move on when their term is up. How shallow and how different from the Europe of the past."

the whole seven-year-contract with option to renew is, in fact, a plot point in a novel by fellow Mormon Orson Scott Card.

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He Should Just Stop. Please, Please Stop.
Jennifer Rubin - 03.28.2008 - 08:04

With each new utterance on the topic of Reverend Wright, Barack Obama seems to confirm his own moral obliviousness. Worse yet, he seems to have disdain for those who are troubled by his own unwillingness, even now, to break with Wright. (Contrary to his liberal apologists who insist “leaving a church is never a simple transaction,” it is exceedingly easy–you just stand up and go.)

The latest: “I never heard him say some of the things that have people upset.” Let’s leave aside for a moment the Clintonian slipperiness of the word “some.” Let’s not dwell on the quite obvious possibility that he might have heard or read comments of Wright’s approximating those on the dozens of tapes that have now come to light. Here’s the meat of it: just “people” are upset–not him mind you, since he is operating on a higher moral plane. I suppose he would have defended Trent Lott’s single remark about Strom Thurmond with every fiber of his being.

But it gets worse. Obama insists Wright is “a brilliant man who was still stuck in a time warp.” So brilliant, apparently, that he has uncovered the plot by white America to kill African Americans and so insightful as to perceive the 9/11 attacks as caused by America’s own terrorism. Then there was his discerning observation that Israel is a “dirty” word. (In what time period would these type of views have been acceptable?) And after all this, Wright, in Obama’s eyes, is brilliant. This, we are told by the legions of Obamaphiles, is not supposed to affect voters’ view of Obama’s judgment.

Perhaps Democratic primary voters are immune to the implications of all this. Perhaps they still fancy Obama as a great ethical leader who is going to lead us out of our history of divisiveness and small-mindedness. Or perhaps they are just embarrassed to tell pollsters they are privately offended. But in a general election contest this is not going to go unnoticed. We will have to see if he can get any Republican votes and just how many independents will be irked by this moral obtuseness. (And that loud thud you just heard? The entire RNC oppo research team falling down in a faint. They are never going to top this.)

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Op vrijdag 28 maart 2008 15:37 schreef PJORourke het volgende:

Kans is niet onaardig dat Obama een keer volledig door de mand valt: Wright, Khaladi, Weather Underground, Rezko, Chicago fixers, zijn oma slachtofferen, zijn gestoorde, bezeten vrouw.

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Op vrijdag 28 maart 2008 16:53 schreef popolon het volgende:
Hillary WASN'T LYING! Bosnia gunfire footage discovered... !

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Op vrijdag 28 maart 2008 16:53 schreef popolon het volgende:
Hillary WASN'T LYING! Bosnia gunfire footage discovered... !

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Op vrijdag 28 maart 2008 16:49 schreef popolon het volgende:
Dat valt mee voor Barack:

Pennsylvania Sen. Bob Casey endorsed Democrat Barack Obama Friday, a move that could help the presidential candidate make inroads with white working-class voters dubbed "Casey Democrats" in the Keystone State.

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Obama: It's All a Distraction

Obama on Jeremiah Wright:

Part of what I hope to do in this campaign and as president is to get us beyond these divisions that distract us from our common challenges and our common opportunities and move the country forward.

On going to war in Iraq:

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income - to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression.

Obama on attacks by Hillary:

We knew that the closer we got to the change we seek, the more we'd see of the politics we're trying to end -- the attacks and distortions that try to distract us from the issues that matter to people's lives, the stunts and the tactics that ask us to fear instead of hope.

On gay marriage:

The heightened focus on marriage is a distraction from other, attainable measures to prevent discrimination and gays and lesbians.

Obama on race, gay marriage, abortion, and illegal immigration:

We get distracted from solving problems such as health care, employment or the environment because of these divisions. It happens in every election, and it's not just race. It's immigration, gay people or abortion. There's always one of these issues that crops up and prevents us from focusing on vital issues that this country's long-term well-being depends on us solving.

It's not all that original to note that much of Obama's rhetoric is pretty vague -- often vapid. But I've begun to notice how many things Obama regards as distractions. When he labels a given issue a 'distraction,' he's saying that someone is whipping up a an issue from whole cloth simply for political gain.

So who does he think is being insincere: gays who want to marry, or people of faith who think marriage is for a man and a woman? How about in the competition between border enforcement advocates and those who want amnesty for illegal aliens? Or between those who favor abortion on demand, and those who believe life begins at conception?

All of these are important public policy questions, with divisions among Americans that prevent easy solutions. Obama shouldn't denigrate broad swaths of the population just because it would be difficult to address their concerns.

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Op vrijdag 28 maart 2008 19:53 schreef NLweltmeister het volgende:
Bloomberg running-mate Obama?

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,544051,00.html

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Op vrijdag 28 maart 2008 21:42 schreef Charles.Darwin het volgende:
Of Bloomberg gaat solo ...

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Op vrijdag 28 maart 2008 19:55 schreef popolon het volgende:
Die geruchten gaan hier en daar. Zou natuurlijk een prachtduo zijn.

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Op zaterdag 29 maart 2008 03:04 schreef Perico het volgende:
Bloomberg had de kans om samen met Gore te gaan, er was een lange flirt in het voorjaar van 2007...
Een goed ticket!

Over Gore 2000 gesproken, andere flip-flopper is Joe Lieberman (die McCain ter plekke gelukkig influisterde dat Al Qaeda niet in Iran zit)...

Denken jullie dat het McCain / Romney wordt ?

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Op vrijdag 28 maart 2008 22:29 schreef Lyrebird het volgende:

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Hij schijnt het charisma van een natte krant te hebben.

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He has about as much chance as Ron Paul. Not that I dislike the man - he's proven himself a capable executive as mayor of New York. But no matter how much money he throws at the problem, he doesn't have a significant national organization or broad name recognition. It would take more money then I think he wants to spend to correct those issues. I would take him over any nationally known Republican, but then again I'm a Democrat. For that, he's too New York to be electable