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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 17:45 schreef duikkie het volgende:ook al geloof ik geen bal van de gekidnap in welke vorm dan ook, laten we het toch maar even aannemen

verklaar dan voor de lol maar de volgende dingen.
waarom is het bij het hotel afzetten dan ter stelling gebracht ?? , ze konden dan zeker weten dat ze daar niet te vinden was, en zeker al verdenking op zouden lopen. waarom zouden de broers deepak en satisch dan liegen ??? en geheimzinnig doen over de car mieren vrij maken en wel midden in de nacht ??, waarom de lighthouse toer vertellen ??? waarom zo moeilijk doen over een huiszoeking als je weet dat het een kidnaping is zullen ze toch echt niets vinden van natalee in huize sloot en deepak/satisch. en heb nog wel een paar vragen hierover dan
Ik zal het iemand anders laten beantwoorden, helaas in het engels van een ander forum, maar in ieder geval een uitleg van iemand, die het kan weten, geen nobody:
Author: nomdeguerre
Posted to Freedom of Blog: Mon Apr 2nd, 2007 01:01 am
I wish I had a dollar - no, make that a quarter, it would be plenty - for every time someone at SM, BFN, etc. has posted that Joran van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers must be guilty of doing something to Natalee, because, “Why would the innocent lie?” I could retire rich and spend all my time lying on the beach in Aruba. LOL
Sports Fans, I'm a retired law enforcement officer, and I'm here to tell you that the innocent lie all the time. It's a dumb thing to do, and it often gets them in more trouble, but there is no bright white line that connects lying to guilt per se, especially in the early stages of an investigation. Just a few reasons that I can remember having innocent people lie to me in my career:
(1) They're scared. For example, they know they were in and around a place where a crime occurred. Even though they know they had nothing to do with it, they don't know who did, and they know the police don't, either. In order to avoid suspicion, they try to place themselves somewhere else.
(2) Subset of #1: They panic. This sometimes occurs because an interrogator comes on too strong. I usually tried to avoid throwing somebody against the wall verbally until I knew I had them. You don't want to get an innocent subject locked into a lie. Wait till you have evidence you can throw in their face.
(3) They're not guilty of what you're questioning them about, but they feel guilty about something else.
I once had a case where an employee denied being in the building when a theft occurred from an office safe; he was one of three people having the combination. Sign-in sheets maintained by the guard at the front desk gave his statement the lie and made us suspect him even more.
Turns out he was there, alright, but nowhere near where the theft occurred: he was meeting a co-worker after-hours in her office on another floor. They were both married and having an affair. Took polygraphing a few people to finally sort that one out. If he had told us the truth from the beginning, he wouldn't have been in trouble - at least not with the government, LOL.
This may be what prompted Joran and the Kalpoes to lie initially. While they did not do anything to hurt Natalee directly, they know they dumped her at a time and place where she could have run into trouble before getting back to her room. Joran has said as much in some of his interviews.
(4) They're protecting someone else.
(5) They're afraid NOT to lie to protect someone else.
I once had a suspect whose overbearing boss was breaking the law left and right. Not huge stuff, but he just didn't think the rules applied to him. The boss was guilty as hell and everyone who worked for him knew it, but he had powerful friends (one in particular) who had gotten him out of so many scrapes and he was so vengeful that his underlings were initially afraid to tell investigators the truth when we arrived on the scene and started asking questions.
In the midst of a long investigation, the main person who was protecting him died. (Cannot say more about that; you'd recognize the name.) When we arrived in that office the following Monday to continue the investigation, we had the happiest lynch mob of people waiting for us that you ever saw in your life. LOL
(6) They're genuinely confused about the facts. These lies are usually inadvertent but often persist longer than any other kind.
(7) They don't KNOW all the facts but for some reason think they have to fill in the blanks to make their stories credible, so they make stuff up, such as telling you that they saw something from an impossible angle.
Memo to everyone reading this: If you're ever questioned by a criminal investigator and you truly don't know the answer to a question, for God's sake just say, “I DON'T FREAKIN' KNOW”.
(8) They don't trust the system. I have seen people lie when the truth would have gotten them out of trouble because they thought if they told the truth, they'd still be under suspicion. This is sad, but it does happen, often with people who are least able to defend themselves.
I could go on like this for an hour, but I'm going to be late for church if I don't wind this up, so as Frances Ellen says, “I'll just leave it at that”, except for one final possibility that may have applied to Joran and the Kalpoes but not to anyone I ever investigated.
(9) They live under a system where they know it takes very little to constitute reasonable suspicion and therefore put you in an un-air-conditioned jail for up to 90 days. I don't mean to be overly critical of Dutch and Aruban law. All legal systems have their drawbacks. This may be one of yours. Not saying it is, just that it's possible.
Last edited on Mon Apr 2nd, 2007 01:05 am by nomdeguerre