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vaders toch die 22000 niet gekregen
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ze moet ergens mee gelokt zijn volgens mij een feestje oid ,drugs ,coke er moet iets geweest zijn
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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ja pa vd sloot heeft 22.000$ schadevergoeding gekregen omdat ie vast gezeten heeft
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Op vrijdag 22 februari 2008 11:55 schreef johan555 het volgende:
ik denk dat als er een doorbraak zou moeten komen in deze zaak ze ook bij justitie in de computers moeten gaan snuffelen
en zeker bij
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deksel van de doofpot is nog maar een beetje opgelicht en het meurt al enorm.

eerder gevraagd: Gerald Dompig: waar hang die nu uit?
die moet ook veel meer weten.
en Dennis Jacobs.
Dostojewski: "Je kunt je niet van je eigen gezond verstand overtuigen door je buurman op te sluiten."
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de zoon van Gerard dompig ( Michael Dompig ) is een vriend van Joran en is ook een keer verhoord !
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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about Dompig the police chief



As many of you may have read, there appears to be some truth to a rumor that Police Chief Gerald Dompig is resigning from the Aruban Police Force. The rumors explode from there. One rumor has the police chief going to medical school. Wherever the truth lies, Gerald Dompig will resign. ...... Why?

Well, as the American media would have us believe, Dompig was incompetent, and he botched the investigation into Natalee Holloway's disappearance. That seems to be reason enough. And, I suspect most Americans will accept that reason as gospel.

Returning a moment to some recent insights from Art Wood, we learned (whether true or not) that only Narcotics investigators were assigned to Natalee's disappearance. Art Wood speaks emphatically that no homicide detectives were assigned to the case. Clearly, a blunder of this magnitude suggests ... as the American media would have us believe ... that a cover-up was in progress early on in the investigation.

Also, we learned that the Aruban police were privy to the Holiday Inn surveillance video of the front entrance prior to obtaining any statements from the three suspects (Sloot & Kalpoes). The police knew that the suspects were lying about the Holiday Inn drop-off, before they detained the two security guards. As I have concluded earlier, the Holiday Inn drop-off was immaterial to the case of Natalee's disappearance.

Given a late revelation of the close association between Boeti, a known, Holiday Inn-area, drug dealer, and Police Chief Dompig, we can surmise that much of the Aruban police's early tips came from Boeti. It has been revealed that it was Boeti's declarations that got the two security guards incarcerated and not any statements by the three suspects.

This leaves us with some interesting questions: 1) Why were the security guards detained? 2) Why were the three suspects detained? 3) Why no homicide detectives?

Apparently, we should be able to conclude that the Aruban police had far more information about the case than anyone has let on. First, it was a narcotics case. Second, it was suspected early on that Natalee Holloway overdosed. Third, the drugs that produced Natalee's overdose were supplied by one or both of the two security guards.

What about the detention of the three suspects? Why was that necessary?

Well, the Aruban police did not have a body. They needed a body in order to close the case. Since the three suspects were seen with Natalee that evening, and they were "expendable," they were detained. Why? Just to assist in finding Natalee's body? The Aruban police needed time to locate Natalee's body. Having someone in custody allowed the Aruba police ample time to search for Natalee's body.

All along, we have been led to believe in Boycott Bob's dull mental ability to boycott an area containing his statesmen's retirement investments. What if Boycott Bob's boys were not so dull? What if they had checked it out and knew their retirement funds were heavily invested in Aruba? What would be the downside of boycotting your own financial future?

Why would Boycott Bob entertain such an idea?

Well, if some of his prime constituents ... heavy political and/or financial influence ... had their children implicated in Natalee's overdose, then it might persuade Boycott Bob to maneuver in such a way as to protect them. If the upper echelon of political power in Aruba were privy to the measure ... and assured of limited collateral damage by an authoritative US State Department official ... an interesting conspiracy develops in order to protect the blue-blood offspring of Alabama.

The detention of the three suspects becomes a diversion to the main aspects of the case. Dompig may or may not have been privy to the arrangement. I suspect that he was not ... the reason for the gag orders. The three suspects remained in focus, because Natalee's body was needed in order to wrap up the case. I doubt anyone suspect a sailboat exit for Natalee's body.

Consequently, I believe Gerald Dompig is resigning from the Aruban Police Force, because he has come to the realization that he had been had. The American press destroyed him and his credibility. When he tried to inform us of what happened, he was quickly attacked and denounced by everyone. And, he was denied access to the case files in order to defend himself. Gerald Dompig has told us what happened as best the could. Many of us refused to believe him, because the American media has concocted the case into a chimera. And, Dompig's story doesn't match ... or we don't desire to hear the truth, if it is Dompig's truth.
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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ik zou die Dompig dolgraag eens willen bellen.
misschien dat dit een klokkenluider kan zijn.
voor mijn part schrijft hij ook een boek en laat hem lekker cashen.
hij moet zoveel meer weten.

Denis Jacobs ook, maar die is zelf zo fout, dat hij waarschijnlijk er zelf niet mee voor de dag komt.
tenminste wat ik over hem lees.
Dostojewski: "Je kunt je niet van je eigen gezond verstand overtuigen door je buurman op te sluiten."
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Op vrijdag 22 februari 2008 11:09 schreef duikkie het volgende:
johan 555 heeft nou niemand de nederlandse versie van het gesprek van joran, deepak en satisch uitgetypt in leesbare vorm. mijn arme hersens krijgen wat van het nederlands-engels en weer terug vertalen
Ik denk dat het inderdaad belangrijk is om ergens die Nederlandse versie op te duikelen.
Er gaat best veel "lost in translation".
Wer lesen kann, ist klar im Vorteil.
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4/7/2006 Dompig no longer on Holloway-case

ARUBA - Since the beginning of this week, the Aruban Chief of Police is no longer the leader of the team that investigates the disappearance of Natalie Holloway.

Spokesperson of the Public Prosecutor, Marianne Croes mentioned today that Dompig was taken off the case, but didn't want to say why. According to Croes, all the four district chiefs of police have been assigned a new portfolio. Holloway has been missing since May of 2005. Dompig was the second leader of the investigation team. The first one was Jan van der Straten, who retired and is the chief of police in Bonaire for the period of one year.



ORANJESTAD (AAN) -- DIARIO interviewed High Commissioner mr. Ronny Bernadina, related with the changes that arose surrounding the investigation of the case of the disappearance of the American student, Natalee Holloway, which is still underway.

The High Commissioner explained that the police force designates the persons who will work on certain cases, and in this case, Commissioner Gerold Dompig was working on this investigation, but what happened is that last Monday, Mr. Dompig approached Mr. Bernadina, and asked for his retirement as lead investigator on the tactical aspects of the Holloway case.

Bernadina explained that when such a case presents itself, all the responsibility goes to the Public Prosecutor.

The High Commissioner said that he doesn’t want to go into details on the reasons why Mr. Dompig took such a decision, but mr. Bernadina made it be known that he sat down with the Attorney General already and they put another person at the head of the investigation. The High Commissioner reiterated that Mr. Gerold Dompig himself asked to be removed.

The High Commissioner indicated that the team is actually the one that does the main task, and not the tactical guide.

Currently, the investigative team is reinforced by the help of Holland, in what refers to the technical, material and search aspects, which is much appreciated.
These are parts that come into play in the ‘procesverbaal’ and that at any given moment, the Public Prosecutor has to present to the judge, and this will not bring any problems for the investigation process.

About the fact that Mr. Dompig is no longer assistant [deputy] to mr. Bernadina anymore, the latter said that every year there are changes in this position, and it had to have happened last January, and in this case, Commissioner Krozendijk is mr. Bernadina’s replacement for this year and for 2007 they will name another person. He emphasized that this is a clarification he wanted to make.

4/6/2006

ORANJESTAD—The fact that there is another commissioner in charge of the investigation of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway led to some speculation about what was the real motive. These speculations took life especially in the American media, which in one way or the other continues with a twisted view about Aruba.

Bon Dia Aruba received information that a producer from the cable channel MSNBC made a connection between a supposed drug dealer, B.N., and Natalee Holloway, given that the former admitted to selling drugs to the latter. The problem is, according to this producer, that this person is Commissioner Dompig’s brother-in-law. The American journalist related the whole conversation he had with B.N., in the presence of Fred Golba, who recently was still in Aruba, under the request of Commissioner Dompig himself. Among other things, one of the investigators in the investigative team admitted to the journalist that B.N. is a person of interest, and that he gave Fred Golba the freedom to investigate him, but not officially. The police never let Golba conduct an official investigation.

According to the MSNBC producer, B.N. is known on the beach in front of Moomba. He himself was present when B.N. was selling cocaine and marijuana. “Police were passing by, but never even saw what was happening”, the reporter said in a letter which arrived at Bon Dia Aruba. So much so that B.N. even showed Fred Golba a ‘hiding place’ from where he was able to see Natalee’s hotel room, according to the American producer.

B.N. related too that he knew beforehand of the Alabama group’s travels, and that Natalee approached him to buy drugs. Here, the journalist quoted B.N. saying that Natalee even asked for alcohol (something which is not logical, given that the Alabama group had an ‘all inclusive’ package which also included alcohol). Following the American journalist’s account in a letter, B.N. procured for the whole Alabama group to obtain access to drugs during their stay in Aruba. B.N. went into detail about everything to do with Natalee and the group with the journalist, and this whole conversation was recorded. The same member of the investigative team who was in contact with the journalist asked for this recording, given that the team did not have all these details. But the reporter did not give him the recording.

It was interesting that B.N. said to the American gentleman that he knows more about the case, but that only money would make him talk.

It has to be said that it is not the first time that Bon Dia Aruba has heard of this person B.N., however, there was no way to obtain official confirmation of what exactly was his involvement and whether the relation he has to Commissioner Dompig plays a role in this investigation or not.

In any case, he got in contact with Fred Golba, who mentioned him to the MSNBC reporter. His reaction was that [with?] the journalist is frustrated and that B.N. has a kid’s mind. “You can quote me. A parrot has more consciousness than B.N.”, Golba said to Bon Dia Aruba.

In what relates to the journalist, Golba said that he really did meet with him in Aruba, and even brought him to the police station once. But now that the reporter didn’t get what he wanted, he started to act irritated. Golba is not aware if there truly was a conversation between the journalist and B.N., or if there was really an exchange of drugs. “If I was aware of this, I would have gone to police immediately”, Golba assured Bon Dia Aruba. “The authorities are doing the best they can, under the current circumstances. B.N., in my mind, is not a person that can be counted on”. He also got in touch with the investigative team to see what their comments were, and the only reaction that he found was that they could not say anything. Bon Dia Aruba is aware that in the past they have already spoken with B.N. and that they are aware of his statements. What’s more, B.N. called other reporters (local) to say that he knows what happened to Natalee Holloway. But this person never really concretized what he wanted to say.

who is de drugsdealer BN ?

[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door johan555 op 22-02-2008 13:11:18 ]
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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laat iedereen een boek schrijven is goed voor de algemene ontwikkeling van de mens

ik denk dat we rustig moeten wachten. totdat een van de mensen die er meer vanaf weet. zijn totale familie en vrienden zijn uitgestorven en hij/zij er totaal geen belang meer bij heeft om nog langer te zwijgen.

nu houdt iedereen, iedereen in de gaten. en lijkt me ook een heel nauw gemeenschap daar op aruba. en als je eruit lig , wordt het niet zo gauw wat met je of met je familie.

dit blijkt al vroeg: joran heeft de broertjes deepak en satisch aardig onder controle, deze twee blijven braaf liegen zolang joran het zegt. ik durf te zeggen als joran opeens zou verklaren dat hij naar partyhuis in zuiden zijn gegaan , deepak en satisch dat ook zouden verklaren. WAT is er met deze jongens??? zijn ze nou echt zo beinvloedbaar wat houd ze onder controle. hoe meer ik lees hoe meer het mij opvalt dat het net twee brave hondjes zijn , die persies doen wat van ze verlangt wordt.
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GVC was bothering Natalee on Friday night at Carlos N Charlies. She was dancing with another classmate and this guy (GVC) came up behind her and started humping and grinding on her back and groping her body. She turned around and yelled at him to leave her alone so he left.



But he came back later with this friend AB and came up behind Natalee and started doing it again, so she turned around and hit him in the chest.

GVC did slap Natalee in the face.

Then her classmate got physical with this GVC and they started scuffling but the other MB kids stopped it before it became more.

There is no doubt to me all these guys knew each other and are predators and misognyists.

But who allowed this sense of entitlement? Who didn't slap them when they got out of line. Like Father like son?

It's no wonder most of the charges against these suspects includes the word, premeditation.
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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This is a picture of Joran Van der sloot, still the last person to see Natalee alive. He is on a boat owned by Red Sail Sports, the same company GVC worked for. And why has the International School removed all those pictures from it's website?

Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Op vrijdag 22 februari 2008 12:16 schreef johan555 het volgende:
ja pa vd sloot heeft 22.000$ schadevergoeding gekregen omdat ie vast gezeten heeft
is niet waar , het hoger hof heeft dat weer terug gedraait, waarom zou je ook schadevergoeding krijgen , hij zat niet helemaal onterecht vast, en misschien moet hij alsnog wel eens vast zitten , dat mobielje verhaal is ook geen zuiver koffie
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THE white pick-up

MANSUR: Yes, ma`am, because there`s another witness that, before that, told someone that works at the hotels that he saw a white pick-up over there by the Holiday Inn, in which three persons were also in, all of them male, carrying what looked like the body of a girl, putting it in the back of the white pick-up and driving away with it.

GRACE: OK. So you`ve got a white pick-up at the Holiday Inn, where Natalee was staying. You`ve got a white pick-up at the landfill. Both eyewitnesses state that there were three individuals, I`m assuming male. But can they give an identification of Joran Van Der Sloot or the Kalpoe brothers?

MANSUR: None of them have given that kind of a description. They haven`t identified the three males. But it`s very important to note that the witness on the beach by the Holiday Inn has absolutely no knowledge of the witness over there to the east side of the island by the landfill or dump. They don`t know each other, but still they give the same description of the same white pick-up.

GRACE: OK, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Jossy Mansur, remember the fishermen that were out in the water? Didn`t they state they saw a pick-up along the beach that night?

MANSUR: Probably. I don`t know. I haven`t made any statements to that effect, ma`am.
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Joran: You know no good that my father has nothing to do [with this}. I have read your statements, friend. You two are lying shit. (then very calmly) You know what happened with that girl. If you don't know it, then nothing happened. (then angrily) So, fuck you. What do you say, that Freddy has to be arrested?

dit zal wel een slechte vertaling zijn, ben benieuwd wat in nederlands gezegd is: je weet wat er is gebeurt met dat meisje, als je het niet weet dan is er niets gebeurt. lijkt mij niet bepaald een logisch nederlandse zin.
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Op vrijdag 22 februari 2008 13:15 schreef johan555 het volgende:
THE white pick-up

MANSUR: Yes, ma`am, because there`s another witness that, before that, told someone that works at the hotels that he saw a white pick-up over there by the Holiday Inn, in which three persons were also in, all of them male, carrying what looked like the body of a girl, putting it in the back of the white pick-up and driving away with it.

GRACE: OK. So you`ve got a white pick-up at the Holiday Inn, where Natalee was staying. You`ve got a white pick-up at the landfill. Both eyewitnesses state that there were three individuals, I`m assuming male. But can they give an identification of Joran Van Der Sloot or the Kalpoe brothers?

MANSUR: None of them have given that kind of a description. They haven`t identified the three males. But it`s very important to note that the witness on the beach by the Holiday Inn has absolutely no knowledge of the witness over there to the east side of the island by the landfill or dump. They don`t know each other, but still they give the same description of the same white pick-up.

GRACE: OK, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Jossy Mansur, remember the fishermen that were out in the water? Didn`t they state they saw a pick-up along the beach that night?

MANSUR: Probably. I don`t know. I haven`t made any statements to that effect, ma`am.
de zon komt op in het oosten en verdwijnt in het westen , waar waren die vissers nu aan het vissen , bij the fishershut toch aan de west kant , deze mansur heeft het over de oost kant
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Op vrijdag 22 februari 2008 12:57 schreef johan555 het volgende:
who is de drugsdealer BN ?
Boeti (Buti) Naar.
Wer lesen kann, ist klar im Vorteil.
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er borrelt even wat op , weet iemand de loopt afstand in km en tijd van het huis broers deepak/satisch en die van joran. iedereen gaat er maar vanuit dat joran van strand naar huis is gelopen , maar waarom zou joran niet van huis deepak naar eigen huis hebben kunnen lopen ???
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over BN > Booty . Ik was Booty even gaan meeten bij de moomba. Dat even meeten is uitgelopen tot de volgende morgen 8 uur, oeps! Maar het was wel gezellig. Booty en ik zijn van moomba naar de stad gegaan, daar was het nog rustig dus toen naar casino, daar ff gratis drinken en wilde Booty mij zijn wijk laten zien. Bij elk huis in deze ik moet je zeggen enge wijk had Booty een fokking lang verhaal waar geen eind aan kwam. Booty kreeg honger en we gingen naar een chinees in een achterbuurt. Toen Naar zijn huis om het voer te gaan eten. Ik ga het huis van booty even niet beschrijven! Na het eten heeft Booty mij zijn foto boek laten zijn en weer kwamen de ijle lange verhalen van vroeger en het zee leven. Gelukkig hoefde ik de afwas niet te doen en zijn booty en ik weer naar de stad gelopen en naar carlos ’n charlies gegaan. Daarna nog naar Bahia Daarna naar Karma lounge entoen dat om 4 uur ging sluiten zijn we met een paar mensen die Booty kent nog mee gegaan naar een feest in een vaag zaaltje tussen cactussen. Dit ging door tot vanmorgen 7 uur. Toen we naar buiten gingen om naar huis te gaan hadden we besef van tijd en schrok ik van het felle zonlicht buiten.

Maar goed bij de moomba, op zondag altijd erg leuk en onze pleegbroer booty is er ook bijna altijd, dag in dag uit. We hadden met booty afgesproken om hem daar te ontmoeten. Booty was deze keer wederom in topvorm. Gladde praatjes, wazig maar nooit onaardig, altijd lachen en neemt zijn taak als pleegbroer ook nog altijd even serieus. Booty is zoals ze hier op Aruba noemen een witte boef.

ook zijn er ilegale beachparties
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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dat is een eind hoor denk wel 40 min
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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joran kwam hier ook onder de naam ASTRIDD


Jij bent al helemaal zielig met je lul verhaal je bent geen beroemde of goeie inspecteur ofzo. die vader heb dr geen kkr mee te make dus. hij heeft de waarheid tegen die naaier vn een patrick gezegt en daar mee klaar hijs niet opgepakt en hij heb niks gedaan

xx


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astridd is joran welkom hier
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Big criticism about Aruban investigation in the case of Natalee Holloway
DIARIO Aruba
4/6/2006

ORANJESTAD(AAN): Dutch criminal law experts recently expressed big criticism about the Aruban police investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway
They call the investigation methods strange and unprofessional. They expressed much criticism as well about Commissioner Gerold Dompig’s behavior.

“It is incomprehensible that police, after an important tip about the location of Natalee Holloway’s body, to not go search immediately.”

This is according to a criminal law scholar of the University of Amsterdam, Menno Dolman.

The place in the dunes where they searched last week was left alone for long weeks, which could have made that important tips be lost.
It was a month after that an anonymous man called Dompig in tears with information about where the body of Natalee was buried, that authorities sprung into action.

“This is very strange”, according to a legal psychologist, Peter van Koppen. “Normally the area is closed off immediately, to dig and search for clues, but not in Aruba”.

Before police started to search, Dompig spoke openly with the press about new clues and another search which was on the way.

“Total madness”, according to a criminal law expert of the University of Leiden, Hans Nijboer. “This is a total error”.

According to Nijboer it is against all principles and illogical to bring forth details of the tips, before starting the search. Competent investigators investigate the case.

“The media is the last option for investigators”, according to Dolman. “You do not give out information that only the guilty could know.

If this happens, then it becomes very troublesome to know if the details in the declarations are authentic or if the person read this in the newspapers”.

According to the Dutch article, Dompig does not appear worried about these details. He gave details of the case easily to the press. However, the facts and the theories of which he spoke, contradict each other.

He said that he believes that Natalee perished due to an overdose of a combination of alcohol and drugs, that she consumed on the night of her disappearance.

However, in an interview with a Dutch newspaper, he said that he believes that Natalee lost her life as a victim of a criminal act (rape and murder).

According to Dolman, these two versions contradict each other. Dolman suspects that Dompig did this to keep the media at bay.


According to van Koppen, perhaps this is an investigation tactic on the part of Dompig, where he is now tapping the suspects’ conversation along with their friends and families, in order to catch something perhaps during a telephone conversation. Dolman doesn’t believe in a tactical action of such magnitude. According to Dolma, this is done for a stalled case.
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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http://www.renevannie.com/inhoud/kritisch/telefoon1.jpg

Hier staan de gesprekken tussen Joran, Setish en Deepak op.
Keep the faith!!
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de vier mensen waaronder natalee zouden naar het lighthouse gaan, toch !!! nou wat dachten de speurneuzen van COLORADO PT LIGHTHOUSE , , ken je ook haaien zien,
  vrijdag 22 februari 2008 @ 14:50:31 #50
81329 MadMaster
Schots en scheef...
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Op vrijdag 22 februari 2008 14:43 schreef duikkie het volgende:
de vier mensen waaronder natalee zouden naar het lighthouse gaan, toch !!! nou wat dachten de speurneuzen van COLORADO PT LIGHTHOUSE , , ken je ook haaien zien,
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