Natalee Holloway (in the rebound) #7

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Op dinsdag 19 februari 2008 23:50 schreef KlaasOosterbos het volgende:

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I'm sorry Observer, but when I drink whole saturdaynight and then start drinking "redfire's" the next morning (when did I sleept anyway?) Then for sure I'm Not 100% clear of mind anymore!..but maybe Natalee was more tolerant then me..


For the record:

- Saturdaynight 28 may:
Natalee becomes very intoxicated and is escorted back to her room by Kevin Broday (Broughton 302)
In the morning (sunday) Natalee starts drinking mixed drinks called 'Red Fires', which contain Diet Coke and Bicardi 151. Natalee becomes intoxicated and her friends tell her to slow down. Lee and Natalee continue drinking throughout the day (Broughton 302 -FBI statement).

She didn't sleep al sunday:
- 4:00-5:00 pm: Natalee and Nancy leave the beach and go to the hotel pool, where Nancy takes photos of Natalee and other students. Natalee and other classmates are drinking on and off throughout this time (Watson 302). btw. Watson thinks Natalee left the afternoon going somewhere..

Also a fact that some MB girls meet Joran before or also:
- In the evening (saturday), Brian Riser sees a tall, sunburned young man talking to Frances Ellen Byrd and Lee Broughton, whom he later believes to be Joran (Riser 302).
- Katherine Madison Whatley (statement FBI, 07/12/2005):
"After dinner they went to the casino at the hotel A few classmates (Whatley, Broughton and Holoway include) were gambling at the card table along whit a "olderman" and JvS

The MB students where No Angels..that's bull..and I don't say it because I want to talk negative..it's just objective..It's false to pretend that they are different than other students; that would be subjective

Just another one:
- This statement confirms the drink-a-thon, bar-hopping, and that non-drinking Natalee was very intoxicated the night before, helped back to her room by Kevin Broday. Despite that Natalee was drinking again next morning (per roomate Ruth McVey) and at C&C's the following night doing body-shots “with other girls from the group” including Broughton.
- Lee Ashford Broughton FBI statement 06/03/2005: http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=810.0

Photo's of MB-partying -scroll-: http://www.xs4all.nl/~dug(...)eHolloway/page05.htm

Observer, don't get this wrong but the Dutch are more neutral about drugs and drinking..In America Natalee went to a highschool with 90%(?) white -rich-people, who are of course all of them "good christians" and so one..but here in the Netherlands they are more down to earth; schools are mixed, religion/cultere also and drugs/alcohol is not "alien-food" drugs/alcohol here, it's as normal here as the legal weapons you can buy in America.

I'm not saying NH was a bad girl..but please stop making her a Saint..the only reason she is an Angel is because she did go to heaven

LOL! I am still waiting for a fact showing she was drunk that night,looking into her last picture and saying that is proof she is drunk is laughable. Even if she was that has nothing to do with her murder. The 302's were put out a very long time ago,is that the first time you read them?..What does any of that have to do with Natalee being missing? Like I said Natalee was a goody too shoes much more so then her classmates and I am sick of people trying to make her into something she is not. Ok so I am supposed to believe you know more about Natalee than her family and close friends,some of them I have personally talked to and read and heard most everything they had to say about this girl. I understand what you are doing and it is all irrelevent and doesnt matter one bit. If she was a drunk a whore or did drugs I would gladly admit it but that it's a total lie. You keep bringing up one time she had to much to drink that has nothing to do with her being drugged raped and murdered on the 30th in the AM. So that makes her terrible and deserved to die that she drank alcohol on the trip? What does 123 other teens and what they did have to do with her being missing,they weren't the last ones with her. This has absolutely nothing to do with the people that were last with her that lies and continue to lie about what they did with her. I am amazed you keep trying to make her look like something she was not and are waisting so much energy and time on events that happened before she dissapeared.

Yes Joran was hanging around the HI all week and met other MB kids and he met Natalee at the Black Jack table for the first time on Sunday,what is your point in all of this? I never claimed to say the MB kids were Angels and it has nothing to do with why she is missing at all. You should read the statements again as you are clearly looking in the wrong direction and is not very interesting. It was Joran who said he was 19 and from Holland who was staying at the Holiday Inn. It is also Joran who bragged to many people that he drugged and assaulted other girls before Natalee dissapeared. Also Joran again where mutiple girls came forward and said he drugged them and assaulted them. Joran is the one who was staring Natalee down when he walked into the bar 30 minutes before it closed. It was Joran the last person with her that was assaulting as she was unconscious. It is Joran,Paul VDS,K2 that have lied and continued to lie.
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Natalee had big dreams and wanted to become a doctor but some want to concentrate on other teens and alcohol she drank before she was murdered

Since some of you want to concentrate on Natalee here is some of the things she accomplished in H.S.
- Finsihed 34th in her class and received all A's
- The American Field Service - a club which interacts with the foreign exchange students.
- Dorians Dance Team- Future Business Leaders of America
- Mu Alpha Theta - Math honor society
- Natural Helpers - A peer based emotional support group
- Outdoors Club
- Spanish Club
- Spanish Honor Society
- Spartan Pride
- School pep group
- TASC - Teens Actively Serving the Community
- received a full scholarship to the University of Alabama
- planned to major in Pre-Med, in order to pursue her goal of being a pediatrician

Frances Ellen Byrd: Well, I first met Natalee in eighth grade when we had a welcoming party for her. She moved here from Mississippi. And, ever since then, I have just been closest friends with her, as well as a few other of all of our good friends. Everybody in the school loves Natalee. Nobody can say anything bad about her. She is a straight-A student, 25 in a class out of 300 students in a very—school where we studied very hard. She is very—has very many honors. She is in dance team, Bible study. Basically, she is a very responsible, well-loved child to everyone here.
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BT: Dr. Schuller, Natalee’s faith too was so strong, and I just wanted to share with you what Natalee’s Bible study leader told me. Natalee had been in her Bible Study class for four years, and her senior year was with Donna Green’s ministry, and Natalee was the only one that achieved 100% in Bible verse memory.
http://www.hourofpower.or(...)l.cfm?ArticleID=4620
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Alana Jordan posts
June 12th, 2005 2:31 am: I’m worried about what I say about that night being misinterpreted… I was quoted in People recently and they twisted my words to make it seem like she was drunk and wild… She didn’t look like herself, but that was only because her eyes were heavy…. She didn’t have that much to drink, so she might have been drugged.

June 12th, 2005 2:45 am: No she wasn’t just “overtired” We all slept quite a lot on the trip actually, plus I’ve seen Nat when she’s just sleepy… she doesnt look like she did that night. Thank you for your concern, though.

http://scrux.com/natalee/alanapostings.htm

[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door observer777 op 20-02-2008 03:01:48 ]

Does anyone not think that the Mountain Brook teens were intentionally targeted? The MO is obvious of what island predators do to unsuspecting girls on vacation with their guard down. Only this time … something bad happened.

Well it only took about 2 years and 9 months; however, ABC News has finally come on board with Scared Monkeys in the Joran Van der Sloot date rape drug theory. First it was news casters at FOX News and now ABC. Welcome to the party, its about time you could make it!

We have been asking since the initial days of his investigation … why do three boys go to Carlos N’ Charlies one half hour before closing? (This is an important post to go back and read) The evidence, words, statements actions and reactions are all there to review. Its just a matter of someone in Aruba stepping to the plate and acting to prosecute the crime.

VAN SUSTEREN: When you arrived at Carlos ‘n Charlie’s, any idea about what time it is?

VAN DER SLOOT: It was probably, you know, 12:15, I think, 12:30 maybe.

VAN SUSTEREN: How late does it stay open?

VAN DER SLOOT: That night it was open until 1:00 AM.

Especially when it was a Sunday and Joran Van der Sloot had stated to other Mountainbrook teens that he had met that C&C was no fun that night.

MCVAY: He came with his friends. He had told us that night that Sunday was not a fun night on the island and that no one goes out. So we found it ironic that he showed up.

It was not ironic … it was a planned, premeditated action. Think it was not a premeditated targeting of an American female tourist?

VAN DER SLOOT: Yes, Greta: And you’re like, you know, what, you know what are you doing? Because it was… it was a normal… it was a normal thing for us to do, you know, go to our friends, go to the beach, talk to American tourists, you know, then go out with them and have a good time and, you know, nothing… nothing ever bad has ever happened. I mean it’s happened probably 20, 20 times nothing has ever gone wrong. (Fox - Greta Interview part 2)

So how exactly does one go to a club and within 1/2 hour leave with a targeted tourist as has happened 20 times before? How does a girl get separated from her friends and get into a car with 3 guys she has never met? The answer is rather simple. As ABC News has finally stepped to the plate and surmised … Was Natalee Holloway Drugged? Medical Experts Tell ABC News Alabama Teen May Have Been Drugged.

Medical experts tell ABC News that the description Joran van der Sloot gave of convulsions apparently experienced by Natalee Holloway on the night she disappeared could be consistent with the date rape drug GHB, and not simply alcohol intoxication.

The question has resurfaced after a Dutch undercover documentary aired last week on ABC News in which Van der Sloot, the prime suspect, describes in harrowing detail how Holloway went into convulsions during an amorous encounter on an Aruban beach the night she disappeared.

Doctors and pharmacologists who spoke to ABC said that it’s in general unlikely that alcohol poisoning alone could have caused the otherwise healthy Alabama teen to convulse the way Van der Sloot described it to a man who he believed was a friend but who was actually working undercover for a Dutch investigative journalist.

Was there really any question as to what happened the night that Natalee Holloway was last seen with Joran Van der Sloot? Any person who has the ability of deductive reasoning can piece this case together. That of course discounts the ALE, judges and Aruban prosecutors.

Convulsions ‘Consistent’ With Date Rape Drug
“If you gave me a choice based on [Van der Sloot’s description of the convulsions], alcohol would be lowest on the list and GHB the highest,” said Paul Doering, distinguished service professor of pharmacy practice at the University of Florida’s College of Pharmacy. (ABC News)

http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/2020/story?id=4295570&page=1

http://tinyurl.com/yr3dey

Why Do Three Boys Go to Carlos N’ Charlie’s One Half Hour Before Closing when Mountain Brook Teens were there on their last night in Aruba? Gee, I Wonder?

http://scaredmonkeys.com/(...)-aruba-gee-i-wonder/