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I read your response and thanks for being honest! You are asking for more proof of a cover up? Well I can for sure do that but it will take time and will be a very lengthy response. It has been a cover up since day one that I can assure you. It's 4am here now so maybe tonight I can work on that. There are many links at ScaredMonkeys.net (http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=615.0) that hopefully will answer some of your questions as well as http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/quote:Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 09:19 schreef BwennieBren het volgende:
Oh and Observer777 I have seen your answers ofcourse and relpied on them here
Natalee Holloway (in the rebound) II
I see you Yvonne..How are you? Not ignoring you
[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door observer777 op 07-02-2008 10:09:29 ]
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
Here is a link to the ship and crew called the Persistence that hopefully brings Natalee home soon. They have been searching in the Aruban waters now for over two months!
http://nholloway.blogspot.com/
http://nholloway.blogspot.com/
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
4 AM, go get some sleep 
Yvonne riep ergens: Static is gewoon Static, je leeft met hem of niet.
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.
Op dinsdag 26 oktober 2021 16:46 schreef Elan het volgende:
Hier sta ik dan weer niet van te kijken Zelfs het virus is bang voor jou.
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.
Op dinsdag 26 oktober 2021 16:46 schreef Elan het volgende:
Hier sta ik dan weer niet van te kijken Zelfs het virus is bang voor jou.
Do you have this Proces verbaal somewhere 'original' as imagefile just as the other proces verbaal at S.monkeys.quote:Op woensdag 6 februari 2008 22:27 schreef johan555 het volgende:
Official document
PROCES VERBAAL
We, Roland Ramiro TROMP and Clyde Anthony Burke, respectively inspector and sergeant first class, with the Korps Politie Aruba and attached to the section Often Occurring Crime District 2, state the following.
On June 23rd 2005, at approximately 14.30 hours, as a suspect, a man was interviewed who stated his name was: Paulus Antonius Petrus Johanna van der SLOOT, born in the Netherlands on February 15th 1952, judge (common court) and living at XXXXXXXX number XX on Aruba.
Before the interview the suspect P.A.P.J. van der SLOOT was informed that he was under no obligation to answer.
.....
...
...
P.A.P.J. van der SLOOT
After the suspect P.A.P.J. van der SLOOT had read his statement, he stated to us that he would persist in it and signed it.
Of this, we, the reporting officers, on our oath of office, have made this proces-verbaal, closed and signed in Noord on June 23rd 2005.
The reporting officers
R.R. TROMP C.A. BURKE
Is there a timeline of Paul vd Sloot somewhere at S.monkeys (or somwhere else)? If so can you point me to it?
iedere dag een nieuw deel openen vrees ik zo ha ha
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
I'm getting confused reading up on al these pages.
One thing that confuses me is the psychic version of the Natalee story.
Seems so different then what Joran sais, but then again so possible.
And then the part where Paulus is claimed to have said he picked Joran and Natalee up at 4 am!? Is that for real?
One thing that confuses me is the psychic version of the Natalee story.
Seems so different then what Joran sais, but then again so possible.
And then the part where Paulus is claimed to have said he picked Joran and Natalee up at 4 am!? Is that for real?
- Maybe O.D.B My Long Distance Family -
"Computer says: no.."
"Laat hen gaan, blinden zijn zij, die blinden leiden. Indien een blinde een blinde leidt, zullen zij beiden in een put vallen". (Matteüs 15:14)
"Computer says: no.."
"Laat hen gaan, blinden zijn zij, die blinden leiden. Indien een blinde een blinde leidt, zullen zij beiden in een put vallen". (Matteüs 15:14)
hier staan alle proces verbalenquote:Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 10:22 schreef ZoneKill het volgende:
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Do you have this Proces verbaal somewhere 'original' as imagefile just as the other proces verbaal at S.monkeys.
Is there a timeline of Paul vd Sloot somewhere at S.monkeys (or somwhere else)? If so can you point me to it?
http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/
Keep the faith!!
een aantal ja
als het goed is komen er spoedig nog wat
als het goed is komen er spoedig nog wat
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
2005 >
One of the three young men arrested Thursday in the disappearance of Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway got into a pushing match with some of her friends in an Aruban bar, one of Holloway's friends said Thursday.
Bryan Reynolds, 18, one of 124 recent high school graduates whowent to Aruba in late May, said some of his friends almost got into a fight with Joran Andreas Petrus Van Der Sloot and his friends.
The scuffle started after Van Der Sloot, a Dutch suspect arrested at his upper-class home in Oranjestad, Aruba, Thursday morning, had been talking to 18-year-old Holloway at a bar where she and classmates hung out during the five-day trip, Reynolds said.
"There was almost a fight between my friend and him," said Reynolds, who was sitting in his car in the parking lot of Mountain Brook Community Church on Thursday after attending a noon prayer service with his classmates and others. "I had to break them up. That's when I got a good look at them."
Van Der Sloot, the son of a Dutch justice official studying at the Aruba International School, and two Surinamese brothers identified by police as Satish and Deepak Kaploe, were arrested Thursday morning, more than a week after Holloway disappeared. The last known people to have seen Holloway, the suspects told police they gave her a ride to her hotel in the early morning hours of May 30, the night she vanished, and never saw her again.
Reynolds said he saw the suspects hanging out at the Holiday Inn where the Mountain Brook High School graduates stayed in Oranjestad. When Holloway went missing, Reynolds said they were the first people he considered as potential suspects.
"That was the first people who came to mind," said Reynolds, who said Holloway is one of his best friends.
One of the three young men arrested Thursday in the disappearance of Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway got into a pushing match with some of her friends in an Aruban bar, one of Holloway's friends said Thursday.
Bryan Reynolds, 18, one of 124 recent high school graduates whowent to Aruba in late May, said some of his friends almost got into a fight with Joran Andreas Petrus Van Der Sloot and his friends.
The scuffle started after Van Der Sloot, a Dutch suspect arrested at his upper-class home in Oranjestad, Aruba, Thursday morning, had been talking to 18-year-old Holloway at a bar where she and classmates hung out during the five-day trip, Reynolds said.
"There was almost a fight between my friend and him," said Reynolds, who was sitting in his car in the parking lot of Mountain Brook Community Church on Thursday after attending a noon prayer service with his classmates and others. "I had to break them up. That's when I got a good look at them."
Van Der Sloot, the son of a Dutch justice official studying at the Aruba International School, and two Surinamese brothers identified by police as Satish and Deepak Kaploe, were arrested Thursday morning, more than a week after Holloway disappeared. The last known people to have seen Holloway, the suspects told police they gave her a ride to her hotel in the early morning hours of May 30, the night she vanished, and never saw her again.
Reynolds said he saw the suspects hanging out at the Holiday Inn where the Mountain Brook High School graduates stayed in Oranjestad. When Holloway went missing, Reynolds said they were the first people he considered as potential suspects.
"That was the first people who came to mind," said Reynolds, who said Holloway is one of his best friends.
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
If that's it, I only gave my opinion, understated by an example I saw last week.quote:Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 07:44 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:
Well let me put it more directly then so you can understand it despite having your eyes closed and your ears stuffed.
People dont like to be lectured by strangers.
I'm done with SM, I don't care anymore. No reply from Klaas @ SM so far about the real reason of my ban.
Let them have their conspiracy's, I've got my own thoughts.
End.
I've been reading up on the police statements today.
And without reading updates of the passed few hours I have to make this post:
I'm getting the idear Deepak and Satish have got nothing to do with this all.
They are just 2 guys framed by there good friend Joran into telling a story that wasn't true. And the reason for that was because the 2 brothers where positive that Joran had nothing to do with the disapearing of Natalee because on the night it all happend Joran called (a.p. 3 AM) one of the brothers, telling that he was leaving the beach and left the girl there to sleep.
When the next day the girl ended up missing they didn't een think of Joran as a suspect, more as a idiot who left a foreign girl sleeping on a beach in the night.
Joran convinced them that if the police would come, they should have duplicate stories. And so they did.. leaving out the part where they dropped Joran and Natalee at the beach, and replacing it with the security guard story so that they would be off the hook.
After nearly a week of lying the brothers where sick and tired of it and confessed what happend.
Important detail is that Joran wanted the Kalpoe brother to tell the police that Natalee was drunk and could not walk up straight, but the fact is Natalee was on Cocaine and could handle the alcohol really well.
Also important to note, is that the 3 never informed father Paulus what really happend. Maybe Joran did without letting the brother know, but not that it seems like.
One person who he did tell that he left Natalee at the beach is Freddy Zedan. And in one confession deepak notices that when Joran leaves the room, Freddy talks to Deepak en tells him that even he is puzzled by why Joran leaves his shoes and the talk some more. This leaves me to think Freddy sure is not the guy from the boot.
If people are interested in solving, read these, i've come up to 6/13/05 now and its alot to read but very interesting especially if you look at the difference in details they make up everyday. The funny thing is they seem to fuck up on the parts where they told eachother to tell the same story :
http://hollowaycase.com/archive/
And without reading updates of the passed few hours I have to make this post:
I'm getting the idear Deepak and Satish have got nothing to do with this all.
They are just 2 guys framed by there good friend Joran into telling a story that wasn't true. And the reason for that was because the 2 brothers where positive that Joran had nothing to do with the disapearing of Natalee because on the night it all happend Joran called (a.p. 3 AM) one of the brothers, telling that he was leaving the beach and left the girl there to sleep.
When the next day the girl ended up missing they didn't een think of Joran as a suspect, more as a idiot who left a foreign girl sleeping on a beach in the night.
Joran convinced them that if the police would come, they should have duplicate stories. And so they did.. leaving out the part where they dropped Joran and Natalee at the beach, and replacing it with the security guard story so that they would be off the hook.
After nearly a week of lying the brothers where sick and tired of it and confessed what happend.
Important detail is that Joran wanted the Kalpoe brother to tell the police that Natalee was drunk and could not walk up straight, but the fact is Natalee was on Cocaine and could handle the alcohol really well.
Also important to note, is that the 3 never informed father Paulus what really happend. Maybe Joran did without letting the brother know, but not that it seems like.
One person who he did tell that he left Natalee at the beach is Freddy Zedan. And in one confession deepak notices that when Joran leaves the room, Freddy talks to Deepak en tells him that even he is puzzled by why Joran leaves his shoes and the talk some more. This leaves me to think Freddy sure is not the guy from the boot.
If people are interested in solving, read these, i've come up to 6/13/05 now and its alot to read but very interesting especially if you look at the difference in details they make up everyday. The funny thing is they seem to fuck up on the parts where they told eachother to tell the same story :
http://hollowaycase.com/archive/
- Maybe O.D.B My Long Distance Family -
"Computer says: no.."
"Laat hen gaan, blinden zijn zij, die blinden leiden. Indien een blinde een blinde leidt, zullen zij beiden in een put vallen". (Matteüs 15:14)
"Computer says: no.."
"Laat hen gaan, blinden zijn zij, die blinden leiden. Indien een blinde een blinde leidt, zullen zij beiden in een put vallen". (Matteüs 15:14)
I'm not sure when you sent the message but don't forget that most of the USA/Canada is still asleep or just waking up right now...quote:Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 13:47 schreef MadMaster het volgende:
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If that's it, I only gave my opinion, understated by an example I saw last week.
I'm done with SM, I don't care anymore. No reply from Klaas @ SM so far about the real reason of my ban.
Let them have their conspiracy's, I've got my own thoughts.
End.
Welcome to Americaquote:Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 07:02 schreef MadMaster het volgende:
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I'm not allowed to warn parents for the (for them) unknown behaviour of their children in vacation paradises in common? Money for nothing and chicks for free, isn't it?
I said explicit I wasn't pointing at Natalee when I said the words I said about that.
But I saw last week myself a few times how some girls (not al!!!!) behave overhere, away from their parrents.
The boycot and the behaviour of the girls has nothing to do with each other and I didn't combined both subjects...
Even if people are emotional involved in this case, that's no reason to keep your eyes shut for the reality of nowadays life...
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
Ach, op een van de pagina's daar hebben ze de troefkaart: "En we hebben ze nog wel bevrijd in WO2 daar" al uitgespeeld,quote:
en toen was ik klaar daar.
Yvonne riep ergens: Static is gewoon Static, je leeft met hem of niet.
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.
Op dinsdag 26 oktober 2021 16:46 schreef Elan het volgende:
Hier sta ik dan weer niet van te kijken Zelfs het virus is bang voor jou.
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.
Op dinsdag 26 oktober 2021 16:46 schreef Elan het volgende:
Hier sta ik dan weer niet van te kijken Zelfs het virus is bang voor jou.
nou nou, net alsof er op Fok! nooit ongenuanceerde dingen over Amerika worden geroepen...
En laten we niet vergeten dat als wij ze niet hadden geholpen tegen de Engelsen er nu helemaal geen USA zou bestaan... (bij wijze van voorbeeld dan he) We waren nog het eerste land dat dat "land" als land erkend heeft ook....
En laten we niet vergeten dat als wij ze niet hadden geholpen tegen de Engelsen er nu helemaal geen USA zou bestaan... (bij wijze van voorbeeld dan he) We waren nog het eerste land dat dat "land" als land erkend heeft ook....
quote:Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 15:58 schreef yvonne het volgende:
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Ach, op een van de pagina's daar hebben ze de troefkaart: "En we hebben ze nog wel bevrijd in WO2 daar" al uitgespeeld,
en toen was ik klaar daar.
Die hoor ik zo vaak als ik op Amerikaanse sites zit. Wij mogen niets over Amerika zeggen want zij hebben ons uit WWII gered 
En voor het gemak vergeten we Engeland en het verzet even.Het is zo sneu. Wij moeten constant op eierschalen lopen, doe je dat eens niet breekt de hel los hoor. Helden.
Wat wij over Amerika zeggen is nogal wat anders dan hoe zij VAAK reageren. Wij lopen wel te kankeren over, maar als wij tegen een Amerikaan spreken, spreken we toch heel anders. Wij brengen wel begrip op voor de verschillende tussen onze landen, zij weigeren. En nee, niet elke Amerikaan.quote:Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 16:04 schreef Tennessee het volgende:
nou nou, net alsof er op Fok! nooit ongenuanceerde dingen over Amerika worden geroepen...
En laten we niet vergeten dat als wij ze niet hadden geholpen tegen de Engelsen er nu helemaal geen USA zou bestaan... (bij wijze van voorbeeld dan he) We waren nog het eerste land dat dat "land" als land erkend heeft ook....
Maar goed, ik zal weer even ontopic gaan
I still dont get why Joran would have drugged her. Supposedly. He was populair on the island, had girls every week. And then he decides to let the whole island see him with Natalee, including her friends for a week. Then drug, rape and murder her?
Doesnt make sense to me.
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
Oh, en als ik spreekwoorden/gezegdes whatever verneukt heb, bite me
I liked it. I was good at it. It made me feel alive.
*bite*
Yvonne riep ergens: Static is gewoon Static, je leeft met hem of niet.
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.
Op dinsdag 26 oktober 2021 16:46 schreef Elan het volgende:
Hier sta ik dan weer niet van te kijken Zelfs het virus is bang voor jou.
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.
Op dinsdag 26 oktober 2021 16:46 schreef Elan het volgende:
Hier sta ik dan weer niet van te kijken Zelfs het virus is bang voor jou.
joran heeft steeds ontkent met haar gadanst te hebben
hier een verklaring van haar classmate
Two of Natalee's classmates were interviewed yesterday on O'Riley.
Yes, all of them were drinking, but "responsibly." They saw her dance with van der Slut, and then later saw her leave with him, but thought nothing of it.
Her roommate did notice she never returned that night, but waited until morning to notify others. Why didn't she notify people upon curfew? Because breaking curfew was common. The girl being interviewed said she herself stayed up hanging around the pool till 5am that fateful night.
As one radio commentator put it, these graduation trips are known to be alcohol/drugs/sex escapades. The graduates know it, the parents know it, everybody knows it.
My graduation escapade was grad night at Disneyland, a far cry from an overseas excursion to Aruba. How times have changed.
hier een verklaring van haar classmate
Two of Natalee's classmates were interviewed yesterday on O'Riley.
Yes, all of them were drinking, but "responsibly." They saw her dance with van der Slut, and then later saw her leave with him, but thought nothing of it.
Her roommate did notice she never returned that night, but waited until morning to notify others. Why didn't she notify people upon curfew? Because breaking curfew was common. The girl being interviewed said she herself stayed up hanging around the pool till 5am that fateful night.
As one radio commentator put it, these graduation trips are known to be alcohol/drugs/sex escapades. The graduates know it, the parents know it, everybody knows it.
My graduation escapade was grad night at Disneyland, a far cry from an overseas excursion to Aruba. How times have changed.
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Niet relevant of noemenswaardig detail.quote:Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 17:38 schreef johan555 het volgende:
joran heeft steeds ontkent met haar gadanst te hebben
hier een verklaring van haar classmate
Two of Natalee's classmates were interviewed yesterday on O'Riley.
Yes, all of them were drinking, but "responsibly." They saw her dance with van der Slut, and then later saw her leave with him, but thought nothing of it.
Her roommate did notice she never returned that night, but waited until morning to notify others. Why didn't she notify people upon curfew? Because breaking curfew was common. The girl being interviewed said she herself stayed up hanging around the pool till 5am that fateful night.
As one radio commentator put it, these graduation trips are known to be alcohol/drugs/sex escapades. The graduates know it, the parents know it, everybody knows it.
My graduation escapade was grad night at Disneyland, a far cry from an overseas excursion to Aruba. How times have changed.
Maar Joran had niet echt met haar gedanst hoor, Natalee trok Joran naar de dansvloer maar die wou niet echt en bleef meer met haar praten.
T'is dus meer een opmerking dan een statement.
http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/
- Maybe O.D.B My Long Distance Family -
"Computer says: no.."
"Laat hen gaan, blinden zijn zij, die blinden leiden. Indien een blinde een blinde leidt, zullen zij beiden in een put vallen". (Matteüs 15:14)
"Computer says: no.."
"Laat hen gaan, blinden zijn zij, die blinden leiden. Indien een blinde een blinde leidt, zullen zij beiden in een put vallen". (Matteüs 15:14)
Joran met dood bedreigd op YouTube
Joran van der Sloot wordt met de dood bedreigd in een videoclip op YouTube. [Inmiddels is de videoclip verwijderd op You Tube] Aanleiding voor de bedreigingen zijn diens jongste verklaringen in de zaak-Holloway. De videoclip heet ‘wie is hier nou koelbloedig’. In zijn tekst verwijst de zanger van het rapliedje naar de Antiliaanse gemeenschap, die volgens hem grote schade lijdt door ‘de leugens van Joran’. In het tweede tekstgedeelte de volledige uitzending van Peter R. de Vries op You Tube.
Joran van der Sloot wordt met de dood bedreigd in een videoclip op YouTube. [Inmiddels is de videoclip verwijderd op You Tube] Aanleiding voor de bedreigingen zijn diens jongste verklaringen in de zaak-Holloway. De videoclip heet ‘wie is hier nou koelbloedig’. In zijn tekst verwijst de zanger van het rapliedje naar de Antiliaanse gemeenschap, die volgens hem grote schade lijdt door ‘de leugens van Joran’. In het tweede tekstgedeelte de volledige uitzending van Peter R. de Vries op You Tube.
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Mij best, als ze nu nog alle fietsen die de duitsers van ons hebben gejat in heavy ghadeffie superkikke mountainbikes terug geven met 21 versnellingen dan zeg ik nix meer...quote:Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 15:58 schreef yvonne het volgende:
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Ach, op een van de pagina's daar hebben ze de troefkaart: "En we hebben ze nog wel bevrijd in WO2 daar" al uitgespeeld,
en toen was ik klaar daar.
Ik ben niet labiel. Ik ben emotioneel flexibel.
euh, what about natalee is been dumped to the other side of the island.quote:Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 09:57 schreef observer777 het volgende:
Here is a link to the ship and crew called the Persistence that hopefully brings Natalee home soon. They have been searching in the Aruban waters now for over two months!
http://nholloway.blogspot.com/
i mean, if she was dumped right in front of the marriot hotel, her body would drift onto the island.
but what if the guy sailed, 2 miles out en than around the island,opposite direction(eastside), he dumped her into the water, she would be ending up near Puerto rico.
Oh well...quote:Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 17:46 schreef johan555 het volgende:
Joran met dood bedreigd op YouTube
Joran van der Sloot wordt met de dood bedreigd in een videoclip op YouTube. [Inmiddels is de videoclip verwijderd op You Tube] Aanleiding voor de bedreigingen zijn diens jongste verklaringen in de zaak-Holloway. De videoclip heet ‘wie is hier nou koelbloedig’. In zijn tekst verwijst de zanger van het rapliedje naar de Antiliaanse gemeenschap, die volgens hem grote schade lijdt door ‘de leugens van Joran’. In het tweede tekstgedeelte de volledige uitzending van Peter R. de Vries op You Tube.
Joran v.d. Sloot Diss
Comment: "This rap just made my dog fart..."
Ik ben niet labiel. Ik ben emotioneel flexibel.
That's disgusting but a lot of people realize that.quote:Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 09:38 schreef observer777 het volgende:
We have seen so many people with other motives that twist the facts,derail the truth and trash NH and her family. You can find them at several sites under different names.
