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Ok thanks, ja dat maakt het in ieder geval wél een stuk verdachter
Op maandag voel ik me als Robinson Crusoë: Op zoek naar Vrijdag!
Het leven is als Lucille Werner: het kan raar lopen!
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Op dinsdag 14 april 2009 16:41 schreef Chriz2k het volgende:

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Geeft niet hoor . Lay betekent dat je tegen iemand wed, in dit geval dus op een verlies van Andreev.
Wat ik me altijd af vroeg is, hoe dat anders is dan op Vasuello betten (Backen?) bij een sport als tennis?
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Op dinsdag 14 april 2009 16:45 schreef VerdwaasdeVogel2 het volgende:

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Wat ik me altijd af vroeg is, hoe dat anders is dan op Vasuello betten (Backen?) bij een sport als tennis?
Nouja, soms is er niet echt een goede markt voor de backodds van de ander. Zo denk ik tenminste dat het zit.
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Verrassing zeg, Vassallo
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Op dinsdag 14 april 2009 17:10 schreef wimderon het volgende:
Verrassing zeg, Vassallo
Ach, die arme jongen kan er toch ook niets aan doen dat Davydenko opgaf, Guzman en Hernandez fixers zijn en hij uit vorm was tegen Almagro en Portas .

©ATP (minus het fixersgedeelte)
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Het kan inderdaad bijna geen toeval zijn dat sommige namen zovaak in rare partijen voorbij komen...
Op maandag voel ik me als Robinson Crusoë: Op zoek naar Vrijdag!
Het leven is als Lucille Werner: het kan raar lopen!
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Ik snap ook niet waarom de ATP er nog belang bij heeft om het te negeren, het wordt steeds duidelijker dat het gebeurt en als ze gewoon keihard gaan optreden wordt het allemaal tenminste weer enigszins geloofwaardig.
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Vassallo Arguello 6-2 *5-3 30-15 tegen Wawrinka, nu 5-7 met een lovebreak op 5-5.

Niet gelet op rare wedpatronen alleen, maar kan me niets anders voorstellen .
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En, heb je deze wedstrijd ook weer all-green 300+ each
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Op woensdag 15 april 2009 13:12 schreef de_boswachter het volgende:
En, heb je deze wedstrijd ook weer all-green 300+ each
Haha, je begrijpt toch ook wel dat dat een grap was .
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Op woensdag 15 april 2009 13:15 schreef Chriz2k het volgende:

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Haha, je begrijpt toch ook wel dat dat een grap was .
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Ik vind dat soort grappen niet zo leuk
Nu weet ik niet meer of ik je wel of niet serieus moet nemen in WOS
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Op woensdag 15 april 2009 13:27 schreef de_boswachter het volgende:

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Ik vind dat soort grappen niet zo leuk
Nu weet ik niet meer of ik je wel of niet serieus moet nemen in WOS
Bij een of andere newbie kan ik dat begrijpen, maar ik weet heus wel dat je zo kon zien dat het fake was !

Neem me maar serieus, ik ga me voortaan toeleggen op fixes .
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OK.

Je moet wel nog eens mijn vertrouwen terugwinnen door een mooie fixtip te posten die ik kan gebruiken.
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Is die Arguello nu weer aan het fixen?

Dat de ATP hier toch niets aan doet
Op maandag voel ik me als Robinson Crusoë: Op zoek naar Vrijdag!
Het leven is als Lucille Werner: het kan raar lopen!
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Tvp
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http://oddsoddsodds.com/goto/odds/s3/g630933/m5/d1/

Wordt het weer een wedstrijdje wegtanken voor goede vriend Potito ?
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Het is niet volgens verwachting gegaan, maar Gulbis stond 6-4 3-1* 40-0 voor en verliest vervolgens zeven games op rij: 6-4 3-6 *0-2 om uiteindelijk met 6-4 3-6 3-6 te verliezen.

1: Het was geen fix.
2: Gulbis is een medefixer.
3: Starace was licht geblesseerd/market manipulation en/maar Gulbis was gewoon weer belachelijk slecht.

Ik ga voor optie 3 !
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Vliegen - Rochus 3-6 6-4 6-3

De odds van Rochus stegen alleen maar bij een 3-1 voorsprong in de derde set .
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Kun je dat niet wat eerder plaatsen
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Op woensdag 6 mei 2009 15:34 schreef de_boswachter het volgende:
Kun je dat niet wat eerder plaatsen
Vliegen stond toen al op 1.2 ofzo, lijkt me niet dat je daar je geld op wilt riskeren .
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Ow. Nee
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  donderdag 7 mei 2009 @ 11:37:15 #247
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blijf van mijn sig af homo!
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A Tennis Gambler Looks for a Fix

Russian Bettor Follows Players Online, Watches Them at Hotels; Offering Money to Throw a Match

By HANNAH KARP

Four months ago in a hotel room overlooking the landscaped gardens of the luxurious Dusit Thani hotel in Pattaya City, Thailand, Dmitry Avilov sat deep in thought for several hours, he recalls, nervously composing a message in Russian to Ekaterina Bychkova, a tennis player now ranked No. 169 on the WTA Tour.

Mr. Avilov, 25, who says he makes a modest living betting almost exclusively on women's tennis, had decided, for the first time, he says, to approach a player about fixing a match.

While Ms. Bychkova refused the overture and no money ever changed hands, Mr. Avilov's story highlights a growing concern among some coaches, officials and corruption experts: that lower-ranked tennis players are easy targets, especially with the rise of social-networking sites that make it simpler for strangers to contact them.

In the U.S., tennis bets can only legally be made in person at Nevada sports books. While online betting is legal in many countries outside the U.S., including Russia, match fixing is prohibited almost everywhere. In Russia, however, the penalties are relatively light. Individual violators are subject to arrest and to a fine of up to 200,000 rubles (about $6,000).

"I feel like I can just do whatever I want," says Mr. Avilov, a father of two who lives in a one-bedroom flat in western Russia. "Professional tennis doesn't want to deal with fixes, period."

Larry Scott, chief executive of the Sony Ericsson WTA Tour, the chief women's international professional tennis circuit, strongly disagrees with Mr. Avilov's statement. He said there is "no indication" that a corruption issue exists in women's tennis, but that the tour is monitoring the situation and has a zero tolerance policy for violators. Mr. Scott says the WTA Tour has improved its player education program, prohibits betting at its tournament venues and closely examines matches that players take part in over and above those necessary for achieving ranking points.

In 2007, Italy's Alessio Di Mauro became the first professional tennis player to be sanctioned for gambling. He was barred from the ATP World Tour for nine months for betting on other players' matches. Also in 2008, Nikolay Davydenko, currently ranked No. 11, was cleared after a year-long investigation into a match in Poland on which 11 people wagered a total of at least $7 million that he would lose. Mr. Di Mauro admitted betting on other people's matches. Mr. Davydenko has denied any wrongdoing.

In 2008, the sport's four governing bodies took steps to address concerns raised by these incidents. The WTA Tour, the men's ATP World Tour, the International Tennis Federation and the Grand Slam Committee commissioned a report on the issue of gambling that resulted in a jointly funded "Tennis Integrity Unit" and an anti-corruption code that requires players to report overtures by gamblers.

For the 2008 report, Jeff Rees, a former London police detective with experience in sports corruption, was given access to the betting records for several dozen matches where officials from Betfair, a London-based online betting exchange that cooperates with sports officials, had seen unusual or suspicious activity. Mr. Rees, who now heads the Tennis Integrity Unit, said he found strong indications of corruption in 27 cases -- mostly ones where bettors had repeatedly made successful bets against highly favored players.

Tennis accounts for less than 2% of the total amount wagered on sports in Nevada casinos each year, according to Las Vegas Sports Consultants, but is one of the most popular betting sports internationally. Experts say the game's individual nature makes it easy for a player, acting alone, to manipulate the outcome.

Many WTA Tour players are teenagers who don't earn enough to pay for proper training or a professional coach. Nick Bollettieri, the founder of a Florida tennis academy and a coach to many top players over the years, says none of the clients he's mentored have told him they'd been asked to fix a match. But he says he suspects such offers are made more often to lower-ranked players who are "having a tough time making it financially."

Mr. Avilov, a math whiz and former economics student with a penchant for fantasy computer games, says he came of age when former Russian Federation president Boris Yeltsin promoted the sport and many of his peers took up the game in the wake of Anna Kournikova's success. He created a program that predicted tennis results based on a player's style, current form and record on each surface. After a brief stint freelancing for Betfair's Russian marketing department and a failed attempt to create his own betting exchange, Mr. Avilov says he focused on posting his tennis picks online. In 2006 he says he hooked his first investor, who, as a test, offered to pay him $15,000 if he could turn $50,000 into $100,000. Mr. Avilov says he did so in five months.

Two bettors said they have paid Mr. Avilov to place tennis bets for them and have been pleased with the returns, although they didn't offer specifics or any proof of payment. Last month, one investor -- an American from Houston -- flew in to meet Mr. Avilov at the Family Circle Cup in Charleston, S.C. The investor said he'd come to pay for Mr. Avilov's hotel room and handed him $3,000 in cash. Mr. Avilov placed online bets for the investor before heading to the tournament each morning. While placing online bets is illegal under U.S. law, the authorities rarely prosecute individual bettors.

Gambler Dmitry Avilov visits a bookmakers bureau in Ufa, Russia, in March. Mr. Avilov says he stopped betting on men's tennis in 2007 when he realized he might have a bigger edge over bookmakers on the women's side. When he started attending non-televised tournaments, he found it hard to tell much from watching the men. At a tournament he attended in Prague, he says, even "weak" players like Peter Wessels, then ranked No. 530, looked good to him. He says he found it easier to size up the weaknesses of WTA Tour players, especially those ranked between Nos. 20 and 100. "In the ATP almost everyone can serve, move and return. But there are lots of girls who can't serve, or can't move -- and I always like to bet on good players against bad ones."

To gather intelligence, Mr. Avilov travels to three to six small tournaments a year to watch lower-ranked players, chat up members of their entourages and sleuth into their personal lives. "Just knowing a player better helps," he says.

Mr. Avilov says he first began to consider fixing a match during a tournament in Budapest last year. While staying at the players' hotel, he recognized Anna Lapushchenkova, a low-ranked Russian player, eating breakfast with another player. While he'd never contacted or spoken to Ms. Lapushchenkova -- and hasn't since -- he says he tried to work up the nerve to ask her if she would take money to throw a match. "I would have shared the money with her," he says. He didn't approach her and never made the offer. Ms. Lapushchenkova did not return calls seeking comment.

This winter, Mr. Avilov discovered Ms. Bychkova, another Russian player coached by her mother, kept a diary on Livejournal.com. He thought she might be interested in making some extra money -- in one blog entry she waxed poetic about a Louis Vuitton purse. In February, after registering for the site, he sent her a match-fixing proposal through a private message.

Both Mr. Avilov and Ms. Bychkova say Ms. Bychkova declined the proposal. She says she didn't tell anyone, including tennis officials, because she thought it would "sound really funny" to report someone she'd never met who contacted her through her blog. "I don't want to fix matches and will never do it," says Ms. Bychkova.

Mr. Avilov says he "definitely" intends to contact other players through online social-networking sites and if the opportunity presents itself, to ask them to fix matches. "My job is to understand these girls and to think like them," he says.
Mooi verhaal. Overigens:
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At a tournament he attended in Prague, he says, even "weak" players like Peter Wessels, then ranked No. 530, looked good to him.
Van alle spelers, Petertje Wessels !
  maandag 15 juni 2009 @ 10:55:51 #249
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Factual, I think.
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Hou Hernandez vs Koellerer maar even in de gaten vandaag.
Who the fuck can sleep with all this shit going on?
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Zag um idd.....
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