Het Grote Beatles Topic - Deel 21

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Op dinsdag 17 juli 2007 20:57 schreef MuadDib het volgende:
Ik krijg plots een angstig idee over die remasters: 50 jaar ná de eerste single, Love Me Do, 2012 dus. Dat zal toch niet???

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"I think we're a little bit behind," (Olivia) Harrison said, noting that it was "ridiculous" that properly remastered CDs of the band's catalog were not yet available.

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Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 18:22 schreef TheGrandWazoo het volgende:
Goed, verder over de muziek stel ik voor.

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Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 18:41 schreef TheGrandWazoo het volgende:
Hahaha, ja inderdaad. Maar goed, ik vind dat prima want volgens mij ben ik de enige hier die niets tegen Yoko heeft en haar zelfs bij tijd en wijlen kan aanhoren

Kiss kiss kiss vind ik bijvoorbeeld geweldig. Uberhaupt al haar songs op double fantasy.

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Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 18:49 schreef TheGrandWazoo het volgende:
Yoko hoorde gewoon bij Lennon, klaar. Ze is gewoon een beetje mal, meer is het niet.

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PLAYBOY: How do you feel about all the negative press that's been directed through the years at Yoko, your "dragon lady," as you put it?

LENNON: We are both sensitive people and we were hurt a lot by it. I mean, we couldn't understand it. When you're in love, when somebody says something like, "How can you be with that woman?" you say, "What do you mean? I am with this goddess of love, the fulfillment of my whole life. Why are you saying this? Why do you want to throw a rock at her or punish me for being in love with her?" Our love helped us survive it, but some of it was pretty violent. There were a few times when we nearly went under, but we managed to survive and here we are. [Looks upward] Thank you, thank you, thank you.

PLAYBOY: But what about the charge that John Lennon is under Yoko's spell, under her control?

LENNON: Well that's rubbish, you know. Nobody controls me. I'm uncontrollable. The only one who controls me is me, and that's just barely possible.

PLAYBOY: Still, many people believe it.

LENNON: Listen, if somebody's gonna impress me, whether it be a Maharishi or a Yoko Ono, there comes a point when the emperor has no clothes. There comes a point when I will see. So for all you folks out there who think that I'm having the wool pulled over my eyes, well, that's an insult to me. Not that you think less of Yoko, because that's your problem. What I think of her is what counts! Because -- fuck you, brother and sister -- you don't know what's happening. I'm not here for you. I'm here for me and her and the baby!

ONO: Of course, it's a total insult to me----

LENNON: Well, you're always insulted, my dear wife. It's natural----

ONO: Why should I bother to control anybody?

LENNON: She doesn't need me.

ONO: I have my own life, you know.

LENNON: She doesn't need a Beatle. Who needs a Beatle?

ONO: Do people think I'm that much of a con? John lasted two months with the Maharishi. Two months. I must be the biggest con in the world, because I've been with him 13 years.

LENNON: But people do say that.

PLAYBOY: That's our point. Why?

LENNON: They want to hold on to something they never had in the first place. Anybody who claims to have some interest in me as an individual artist or even as part of the Beatles has absolutely misunderstood everything I ever said if they can't see why I'm with Yoko. And if they can't see that, they don't see anything. They're just jacking off to -- it could be anybody. Mick Jagger or somebody else. Let them go jack off to Mick Jagger, OK? I don't need it.

PLAYBOY: He'll appreciate that.

LENNON: I absolutely don't need it. Let them chase Wings. Just forget about me. If that's what you want, go after Paul or Mick. I ain't here for that. If that's not apparent in my past, I'm saying it in black and green, next to all the tits and asses on page 196. Go play with the other boys. Don't bother me. Go play with the Rolling Wings.

PLAYBOY: Do you----

LENNON: No, wait a minute. Let's stay with this a second; sometimes I can't let go of it. [He is on his feet, climbing up the refrigerator] Nobody ever said anything about Paul's having a spell on me or my having one on Paul! They never thought that was abnormal in those days, two guys together, or four guys together! Why didn't they ever say, "How come those guys don't split up? I mean, what's going on backstage? What is this Paul and John business? How can they be together so long?" We spent more time together in the early days than John and Yoko: the four of us sleeping in the same room, practically in the same bed, in the same truck, living together night and day, eating, shitting and pissing together! All right? Doing everything together! Nobody said a damn thing about being under a spell. Maybe they said we were under the spell of Brian Epstein or George Martin [the Beatles' first manager and producer, respectively]. There's always somebody who has to be doing something to you.

You know, they're congratulating the Stones on being together 112 years. Whoooopee! At least Charlie and Bill still got their families. In the Eighties, they'll be asking, "Why are those guys still together? Can't they hack it on their own? Why do they have to be surrounded by a gang? Is the little leader scared somebody's gonna knife him in the back?" That's gonna be the question. That's-a-gonna be the question! They're gonna look back at the Beatles and the Stones and all those guys are relics. The days when those bands were just all men will be on the newsreels, you know. They will be showing pictures of the guy with lipstick wriggling his ass and the four guys with the evil black make-up on their eyes trying to look raunchy. That's gonna be the joke in the future, not a couple singing together or living and working together. It's all right when you're 16, 17, 18 to have male companions and idols, OK? It's tribal and it's gang and it's fine. But when it continues and you're still doing it when you're 40, that means you're still 16 in the head.

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Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 18:53 schreef TheGrandWazoo het volgende:

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Dat is erg treurig inderdaad.

Moet eerlijk zeggen dat ik weinig met Sean heb helaas. Julian daarentegen vind ik geweldig. Die is ook weer bezig met een nieuwe plaat te maken hoorde ik laatst.

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Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 18:53 schreef TheGrandWazoo het volgende:

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Opgenomen tijdens het lost weekend?

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Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 19:04 schreef TheGrandWazoo het volgende:
Is Yoko vrijgezel?

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KING: Do you feel their presence?

You never remarried, right?

ONO: Well, we were talking about that.

Yes, we feel so strongly about our husbands that sometimes it's hard for us, isn't it?

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Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 19:06 schreef TheGrandWazoo het volgende:
O btw, wie vind Press to play ook zo waanzinnig onderschat?!

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Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 19:19 schreef TheGrandWazoo het volgende:
Het gaat me vooral om de tekst. Dat is echt niet om aan te horen! Maar echt, dat is het enige minpuntje van de hele plaat.

Overigens heb ik deze week weer eens Wild Life beluisterd...ook een beetje vergeten hoe goed die is.

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Playboy: "Mind Games?"

Lennon: It was originally called "Make Love Not War," but it was such a cliche
that you couldn't say it anymore, so I wrote it obscurely, but it's all the
same story. How many times can you say the same thing over and over? When
this came out, in the early Seventies, everybody was starting to say the
Sixties was a joke, it didn't mean anything, those love-and-peacenicks were
idiots. [Sarcastically] "We all have to face the reality of being nasty human
beings who are born evil and everything's gonna be lousy and rotten so
boo-hoo-hoo..." "We had fun in the Sixties," they said, "but the others took
it away from us and spoiled it all for us." And I was trying to say: "No, just
keep doin' it."

Playboy: "Tight A$?"

Lennon: Just a throwaway track. I felt like doing that kind of a song. It's
a Tex-Mex sound which actually you could play now and it would be au courant,
but I don't think many people were doing it then.

Playboy: "One Day at a Time?"

Lennon: Well, that's just a concept of life, you know. How to live life. It
was Yoko's idea for me to sing it all falsetto.

Playboy: What about "I'm the Greatest?"

Lennon: "I'm the Greatest?" It's the Muhammed Ali line, you know. I couldn't
sing it, but it was perfect for Ringo. He could say "I'm the greatest," and
people wouldn't get upset. Whereas if I said, "I'm the greatest," they'd all
take it SO seriously.

Playboy: That was the song all four Beatles - plus Billy Preston - worked on,
though Paul recorded his tracks in London, right? Did you enjoy working with
Ringo and George again?

Lennon: Well yeah, except when George and Billy Preston started saying, "Let's
form a group." I was embarrassed when George kept asking me. He was just
enjoying the session, and the spirit was very good, but I was with Yoko, you
know. We took time out from what we were doing to help out. The very fact
that they would imagine I would form a male group without Yoko! It was still
in their minds....

Playboy: You did it out of friendship?

Lennon: Yeah! I wouldn't have done it otherwise.

Playboy: Did you ever ask Ringo to play for your albums?

Lennon: Well, he played on Imagine and he played on Plastic Ono Band.

Playboy: The same reason?

Lennon: Friendship. And I know how he drums! He drums good, so when I want
that kinda drumming, he's the one to ask.

Playboy: "Out of the Blue."

Lennon: Well, that's just another kinda love song. Nothin' special.

Playboy: "Only People"?

Lennon: That was a failure as a song. It was a good lick, but I couldn't ever
get the words to make sense.

Playboy: "I Know, I Know" ?

Lennon: Just a piece of nothing.

Playboy: "You Are Here" ?

Lennon: I sort of attempted a Latinesque song in a ballad tradition.

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Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 19:22 schreef TheGrandWazoo het volgende:

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Heel stom maar ik zie die albums altijd zonder bonusdrek. De plaat is zonder al dat extra's gemaakt en zie het zo als een geheel. Daarom vind ik het ook fijn dat er een pauze van 20 sec tussen de plaat en bonusdrek zit. Spies like us vind ik toch al niet zo geweldig. Once upon echter een van de mooiste nummers die Macca ooit gemaakt heeft.

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Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 19:54 schreef warpozio het volgende:

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Bedoel je zaterdag (14 juli) op de Gentse Feesten?
Daar was ik ook

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Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 19:59 schreef warpozio het volgende:

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Friendly Fire en Into the Sun... heeft hij nog een derde plaat?

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Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 20:09 schreef warpozio het volgende:

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In de Handelsbeurs was ik er ook bij.
Zaterdag was het inderdaad kalmpjes, maar op de oude beestenmarkt spelen normaal de hippere groepjes (ala Absynth Minded, Fixkes, Gorky enzo). Had dat wel een beetje verwacht...

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Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 18:44 schreef mindgames het volgende:
Het was ook meer om aan te geven dat The Beatles/solo zelf ook iets meer dan inspiratie van nummers vandaan hebben gehaald. Natuurlijk 'Watch Your Step', maar ook wat kleinere/subtiele stukjes. En dat gaven ze dan ook rijkelijk toe. [...]