Schietincident Virginia 30+ doden # 6

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A note believed to have been written by Cho was found in his dorm room that railed against "rich kids," "debauchery (orgy: a wild gathering involving excessive drinking and promiscuity indulging in promiscuous (casual and indiscriminate) sexual relations) " and "deceitful charlatans (pretenders to knowledge or skills that they do not possess)" on campus

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 18:49 schreef Asskicker14 het volgende:

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Lijkt mij inderdaadl een veel plausibelere verklaring

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 18:55 schreef Asskicker14 het volgende:

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 18:57 schreef Asskicker14 het volgende:
Met andere woorden, hij zette zich af en walgde van de verwende rijkeluiskinderen, die regelmatig orgie-feestjes houden met veel drank die zich voordoen als intelligente personen terwijl ze dat niet zijn.

Nou, dat klopt inderdaad met het beeld van de gemiddelde Amerikaan.

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 19:00 schreef Guard het volgende:

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Maar wat verwachtte hij dan aan te treffen in college?
keurige uniform gekleede studenten die alleen maar met de neus in de boeken zaten, en als ze dan een keer in een malle bui zijn, aan een bingo meedoen?

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 19:02 schreef Dr_Flash het volgende:
wat is "debauchery"?

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 19:02 schreef Dr_Flash het volgende:
wat is "debauchery"?

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 19:02 schreef Asskicker14 het volgende:

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Zo is dat wel ongeveer in de Koreaanse scholen/universiteiten waar iedereen in kostuum moet komen. Dus het moet wel een cultuurshock voor hem zijn geweest, toen hij naar de VS kwam.

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 19:04 schreef Evil_Jur het volgende:
Ben ik nou gek, of is dit topic niet in NWS te vinden via de normale weg?
lama, ik zie hem al

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 19:03 schreef Evil_Jur het volgende:

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Overspel e.d.

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 19:02 schreef Asskicker14 het volgende:

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Zo is dat wel ongeveer in de Koreaanse scholen/universiteiten waar iedereen in kostuum moet komen. Dus het moet wel een cultuurshock voor hem zijn geweest, toen hij naar de VS kwam.

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 19:04 schreef Dr_Flash het volgende:

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Mja, hier heb je ook uitwisselingsstudenten die niet tegen de cultuurschok kunnen. Hier springen ze van een flat en hoor je er nooit meer wat van, maar daar hebben ze "individuele vrijheid" en dan krijg je dit

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 19:04 schreef Asskicker14 het volgende:

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Definities van debauchery op het Internet in het Engels:

* orgy: a wild gathering involving excessive drinking and promiscuity

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 19:06 schreef -skippybal- het volgende:

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Ik zou bijna in Amerika gaan studeren. Domme geile wijven neuken, veel zuipen en af en toe college volgen

Hier in Nederland gaat dat eerste toch ietsjes minder makkelijk

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 19:04 schreef Tirion het volgende:

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Het was toch bekend gemaakt dat hij al 14 jaar geleden samen met zijn familie was verhuisd, of is dat ondertussen alweer veranderd?
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Soms zijn topics niet te zien in de index, is een bug.

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 19:06 schreef -skippybal- het volgende:

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Ik zou bijna in Amerika gaan studeren. Domme geile wijven neuken, veel zuipen en af en toe college volgen

Hier in Nederland gaat dat eerste toch ietsjes minder makkelijk

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 19:08 schreef Evil_Jur het volgende:

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Jij hebt nooit gestudeerd in Nederland?

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 19:09 schreef -skippybal- het volgende:

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Ja nu dus, maar ik heb nog een dronken orgie met die journistieke studentes mee mogen maken

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 18:42 schreef Posdnous het volgende:
O jee, de moslims zijn er alweer bijgehaald .

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Police: Virginia Tech shooter an English major, 23
POSTED: 1645 GMT (0045 HKT), April 17, 2007
Story Highlights• Police ID shooter as 23-year-old resident alien, English major
• Police say one of the guns recovered was used in both shooting incidents
• At least two professors among the dead in Virginia Tech massacre
• Officials: 33 dead, including gunman, in Norris Hall and dormitory shootings
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BLACKSBURG, Virginia (CNN) -- The gunman who killed 30 people at Virginia Tech's Norris Hall before turning the gun on himself was student Cho Seung-hui, university police Chief Wendell Flinchum said Tuesday.

University officials said they were still trying to determine whether Cho was responsible for an earlier shooting at a dormitory that left two dead.

However, Flinchum said ballistics tests show that one of the two guns recovered at Norris Hall was used at Norris and at the dorm, both located on the 26,000-student campus. (Watch police disclose new information about the shooter )

Authorities are still investigating whether Cho had any accomplices in planning or executing Monday's rampage, Col. Steven Flaherty of the Virginia State Police said.

"It certainly is reasonable for us to assume that Cho was the shooter in both places, but we don't have the evidence to take us there at this particular point in time," Flaherty said.

Cho, a 23-year-old South Korean and resident alien, lived at the university's Harper Hall, Flinchum said. He was an English major, the chief said.

Cho was a loner and authorities are having a hard time finding information about him, said Larry Hincker, associate vice president for university relations.

A department of Homeland Security official said Cho came to the United States in 1992, through Detroit, Michigan. He had lawful permanent residence, via his parents, and renewed his green card in October 2003, the official said.

His residence was listed as Centreville, Virginia, a suburb of Washington, D.C.

The university and police are still in the process of releasing the names of the 32 people killed in Monday's shootings. (Watch how some are asking why warnings weren't issued sooner )

"What went on during that incident certainly caused tremendous chaos and panic in Norris Hall," Flaherty said, describing how victims were found in four classrooms and in the stairwell of the school's engineering science and mechanics building.

Doctor recalls 'amazing' injuries

A doctor at a Blacksburg hospital described the injuries he saw Monday as "amazing" and the shooter as "brutal."

"There wasn't a shooting victim that didn't have less than three bullet wounds in them," said Dr. Joseph Cacioppo of Montgomery Regional Hospital.

Even among the less serious injuries, Cacioppo said, "we saw one patient that had a bullet wound to the wrist, one to the elbow and one to the thigh. We had another one with a bullet wound to the abdomen, one to the chest and one to the head."

A source familiar with the investigation said the weapons found at Norris were a Walther .22-caliber semi-automatic and a 9 mm Glock -- both with the serial numbers filed off. (Watch how quickly these guns can be fired, reloaded )

As questions continued to arise about how police reacted to the first shooting at the dorm, Steger on Tuesday defended the response, saying police believed it to be "a domestic fight, perhaps a murder-suicide" that was contained to one dorm room.

Police cordoned off the 895-student West Ambler Johnston dorm and all residents were told about the shooting as police looked for witnesses, Steger said.

Authorities were still investigating what they believed was an "isolated incident" when the slaughter occurred at Norris Hall.

"I don't think anyone could have predicted that another event was going to take place two hours later," Steger said, adding that it would've been difficult to warn every student because most were off campus at the time. (Watch a student's recording of police responding to loud bangs )

Steger told reporters Monday that when police responded to Norris Hall they found the front doors chained shut. The gunfire had stopped by the time they reached the second floor, he said.

The gunman killed 31 people, including himself, and wounded 15 in Norris Hall classrooms.

Student: Gunman 'seemed very thorough'

The gunman was dressed "almost like a Boy Scout" and wore a black ammunition vest, said a student who survived by pretending to lie dead on a classroom floor.

"He just stepped within five feet of the door and just started firing," said Erin Sheehan. "He seemed very thorough about it, getting almost everyone down, I pretended to be dead." (Watch student describe surviving by playing dead )

The shooter, who remained quiet throughout the rampage, came back 30 seconds after the first round of gunfire and Sheehan and her classmates tried to barricade the door with their bodies, she said.

After the shooter couldn't get in, he began firing through the door, Sheehan said. Of the 25 students in her German class, Sheehan was one of four able to walk out on her own when police arrived.

As of midday Tuesday, officials were still releasing the names of victims, which include a marching band member from Georgia and an Israeli Holocaust survivor who headed the engineering and science department. (Full story)

The university has scheduled a convocation for 2 p.m. ET Tuesday. President Bush and the first lady are scheduled to attend.

Classes have been canceled for the rest of the week, and Norris Hall will be closed for the remainder of the semester, Steger said. Student Emily Alderman said students were sending out instant messages urging each other to wear their Virginia Tech Hokie gear in a sign of unity.

There have been two bomb threats at the university this month, the latest of which came Friday. Flinchum said Tuesday they were unrelated to the shootings. (Watch gunfire on the campus )

Last August, the first day of class was cut short at Virginia Tech by a manhunt for an escaped prisoner accused of killing a Blacksburg hospital security guard and a sheriff's deputy.

Before Monday, the deadliest mass shooting in the United States occurred in 1991, when George Hennard drove a pickup truck into a Killeen, Texas, cafeteria and fatally shot 23 people, before shooting and killing himself.

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 19:13 schreef popolon het volgende:

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Nou het duurde toch nog anderhalve dag. In Nederland is dat het eerste woord wat valt.

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Op dinsdag 17 april 2007 19:16 schreef Evil_Jur het volgende:

En een 9mm en een kleinkaliber pistool, nou niet het meest indrukwekkende arsenaal als je het met andere slachtpartijen vergelijkt.