In theorie. Alonso reed niet op de limiet, want dat kan de McLaren nog helemaal niet. Als we Vettel mogen geloven reed Alonso zelfs langzaam, voor F1 begrippen.quote:Op maandag 23 februari 2015 13:26 schreef Fer het volgende:
Meer wind van voren is meer downforce, wind van achteren minder downforce. Daarnaast kan een zijdelings windstoot of draaiing ook voor een andere balans zorgen.
Ze rijden immers op de limiet.
Zolang ze niet zeggen wat wel de oorzaak was, blijven we speculeren.quote:Op maandag 23 februari 2015 14:27 schreef twiFight het volgende:
Ik blijf het ergens toch grappig vinden dat een F1 team met alle telemetrie van de wagen én tientallen gespecialiseerde engineers én de coureur, die verder gewoon de hele tijd bij bewustzijn was en dus simpelweg heeft kunnen zeggen wat er gebeurd is niet worden geloofd en dat een aantal mensen op een forum het wel beter weten. Ik snap best dat speculeren leuk is hoor, maar dit gaat zo vaak echt nergens over.
quote:Rory Byrne, one of the figureheads in Ferrari's dominance of the early 2000s, is working at Maranello as mentor to chief designer Simone Resta.
Byrne was design chief at Ferrari at the start of the last decade and, along with Jean Todt, Ross Brawn and driver Michael Schumacher, helped the team win six constructors' and five drivers' titles in six years. Last year Ferrari's first winless campaign since 1993 triggered a massive upheaval, with three team principal changes through the year and the departures of president Luca di Montezemolo and high-profile staff such as Nick Fry.
Maurizio Arrivabene took over from Marco Mattiacci as team principal in November and during the second Barcelona test confirmed the semi-retired Byrne, 71, is back at the team.
"I have to tell you something funny," Arrivavene told journalists in Barcelona. "I spoke with Rory, I've known him for a long time. I asked him 'are you keen to work together with us, with your success, in the future to be a bit more involved?' Without taking anything away from Simone Resta, who is our chief designer.
"And you know, I saw in Rory a kind of light. It's unbelievable, a guy like this of his age, and he's still enthusiastic like a baby. I was really surprised. One night near to Christmas I went to a restaurant and I found Rory, who was eating very, very quickly, and I said 'Rory, calm down, where do you have to run!?' He had to run immediately back to the factory for a meeting with Resta."
Arrivabene explained in detail Byrne's new role and explained his experience of winning was something invaluable to Ferrari, which has not won a title since 2008.
"Rory is working with Simone, he's giving to Simone as a mentor because of his experience and he's working on some detail of the car. Most people might think Rory is part of history, I don't think so. We are talking about the chief designer guru all the time but Rory isn't one of the guys who didn't win, he's one of the guys who won a lot.
"Having a father or mentor for Simone is not a bad thing especially not when his enthusiasm is going up to the sky. I was talking to James [Allison] about it and he said 'why not?'. Rory has my utmost respect, especially for that night I saw him eating with the light inside his eyes."
Snap ik, maar McLaren heeft al wél gezegd dat het geen stroomstoot was en dat Alonso ook niet flauwgevallen is. McLaren noemt het 'just a normal testing accident', maar specificeert verder niet hoe of wat. Speculatie over de wind komt van buiten McLaren, maar dat de coureurs wel last hadden van de wind is bevestigd door o.a. Saintz en Rosberg. En dit zijn allemaal feiten (dat die uitspraken zijn gedaan), geen speculatie.quote:Op maandag 23 februari 2015 14:31 schreef sasquatsch het volgende:
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Zolang ze niet zeggen wat wel de oorzaak was, blijven we speculeren.
Ooooo is het echt zo gegaan?quote:
Nopequote:Op maandag 23 februari 2015 16:43 schreef Geralt het volgende:
Dus we kunnen gewoon stellen dat die pannenkoek een fout gemaakt heeft? Toch?
quote:We are pleased to confirm that, having been involved in an on-track incident at the Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya (Spain) on February 22nd, Fernando Alonso is making a solid recovery in hospital, and is chatting to family, friends and hospital staff.
From the scene of the incident he was driven to the circuit’s medical centre, where he was given first aid and, as per normal procedures, was sedated in preparation for an air-lift to hospital.
In hospital a thorough and complete analysis of his condition was performed, involving CT scans and MRI scans, all of which were completely normal.
In order to provide the privacy and tranquillity required to facilitate a peaceful recuperation, he is being kept in hospital for further observation, and to recover from the effects of the medication that successfully managed his routine sedation yesterday.
We intend to give him every opportunity to make a rapid and complete recovery, and will evaluate in due course whether or not he will participate in the next Barcelona test.
Over the past 24 hours, we have been carrying out a detailed analysis of the damage to Fernando’s car, and its associated telemetry data, in order fully to understand the cause, or causes, of his accident. Even at this early stage, we have been able to reach some firm conclusions.
His car ran wide at the entry to Turn Three – which is a fast uphill right-hander – allowing it to run onto the Astroturf that lines the outside of the track. A consequent loss of traction caused a degree of instability, spitting it back towards the inside of the circuit, where it regained traction and struck the wall side-on.
Our findings indicate that the accident was caused by the unpredictably gusty winds at that part of the circuit at that time, and which had affected other drivers similarly (eg, Carlos Sainz Jnr).
We can categorically state that there is no evidence that indicates that Fernando’s car suffered mechanical failure of any kind. We can also confirm that absolutely no loss of aerodynamic pressure was recorded, which fact indicates that the car did not suffer any aerodynamic loss, despite the fact that it was subjected to a significant level of g-force. Finally, we can also disclose that no electrical discharge or irregularity of any kind occurred in the car’s ERS system, either before, during or after the incident.
That last point refutes the erroneous rumours that have spread recently to the effect that Fernando was rendered unconscious by an electrical fault. That is simply not true. Our data clearly shows that he was downshifting while applying full brake pressure right up to the moment of the first impact – something that clearly would not have been possible had he been unconscious at the time.
Our data also confirms that Fernando’s car struck the inside concrete wall, first with its front-right wheel and then with its rear-right. It was a significant lateral impact, resulting in damage to the front upright and axle.
After the initial impact, the car slid down the wall for about 15 seconds before coming to a halt. All four wheels remained attached to the car, but no damage was sustained by the bodywork or crash structure between the front and rear wheels.
We wish Fernando a very speedy recovery. As and when we have further updates to share, we will of course do so.
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Dat klinkt mij meer iets als waar een rookie door verrast kan worden. Klinkt me niet echt in de oren als iets waar een tweevoudig wereldkampioen zich door laat vangen.quote:His car ran wide at the entry to Turn Three – which is a fast uphill right-hander – allowing it to run onto the Astroturf that lines the outside of the track. A consequent loss of traction caused a degree of instability, spitting it back towards the inside of the circuit, where it regained traction and struck the wall side-on.
Our findings indicate that the accident was caused by the unpredictably gusty winds at that part of the circuit at that time, and which had affected other drivers similarly (eg, Carlos Sainz Jnr).
ach wie weet was hij even met wat anders bezig, toch een ander stuurtje dan afgelopen jarenquote:Op maandag 23 februari 2015 16:54 schreef Geralt het volgende:
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Dat klinkt mij meer iets als waar een rookie door verrast kan worden. Klinkt me niet echt in de oren als iets waar een tweevoudig wereldkampioen zich door laat vangen.
Als ik heel eerlijk ben dan.
Nouja dat weet ik niet. Klinkt het jou in de oren alsof een ervaren coureur, sterker nog, eens van de meest ervaren coureurs op de grid zich hier door laat vangen?quote:Op maandag 23 februari 2015 17:00 schreef Fir3fly het volgende:
Maar jij hebt dan ook het redeneringsvermogen van een pannenkoek.
En ook in dat geval is het een fout van Alonso vind ikquote:Op maandag 23 februari 2015 17:04 schreef Tarado het volgende:
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ach wie weet was hij even met wat anders bezig, toch een ander stuurtje dan afgelopen jaren
Vetlel reed (dacht ik, niet 100% zeker) met dezelfde banden, op datzelfde stuk baan, met dezelfde snelheid, met dezelfde temperatuur en dezelfde wind.quote:Op maandag 23 februari 2015 17:20 schreef twiFight het volgende:
valt er weinig te zeggen wat andere coureurs was gebeurt in die auto, met die banden, op dat stuk van de baan, met die temperatuur, met die wind, etc. In de F1 is zelden één factor de oorzaak.
Zeker, als het niet mechanisch is dan is het zijn fout, wind of geen wind.quote:Op maandag 23 februari 2015 17:05 schreef Geralt het volgende:
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En ook in dat geval is het een fout van Alonso vind ik
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