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Op het Duitse RTL hebben ze laten zien waar het ongeluk gebeurt is. Het was een stukje van +/- 30m breed precies tussen twee pistes in. Zag er niet gevaarlijk uit.. :{
Was toch al bekend dat hij tussen 2 pistes skiede? En die rotsen zie je dus niet onder de sneeuw.. Waarschijnlijk gevalletje zeer ongelukkig terechtgekomen.. Gelukkig had hij een helm op.. Althans: als hij het overleeft zonder al te veel kleerscheuren.. Anders was zonder helm wellicht :X :@
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  dinsdag 31 december 2013 @ 00:36:09 #102
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Ik zei van het weekend nog tegen mij ma wat een arrogante kwal Schumi was en dat ik hem voor altijd veracht vanwege zijn gejuich bij de winst in Imola toen mijn jeugdidool aan zijn einde kwam.

Dit had ik echter niet bedoeld met die opmerking..
Cause I'd rather continue my trip to the top of the mountain then freeze to death in the valley.
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Mooi stuk van David Coulthard over Michael Schumacher

I only hope Michael Schumacher pulls through so that he can see all the nice things people are saying about him

With hindsight I know now that I was never on the seven-time world champion's level but he gave my career as a Formula One driver credibility

Friend and foe: Michael Schumacher and David Coulthard shared an underlying respect Photo: REUTERSBy David Coulthard10:30PM GMT 30 Dec 20132 CommentsThe outpouring of concern for Michael Schumacher’s wellbeing over the past 36 hours, not only from the world of Formula One but from the wider sporting, and indeed non-sporting, community has been wonderful to see. In my opinion it constitutes long-overdue recognition of Michael’s status as a true sporting great. I only hope and pray that he pulls through to see what nice things people have been saying about him.The truth is I do not believe that Michael has ever truly received the praise or recognition that his stunning achievements merited. And I say that now with the benefit of hindsight.For years Michael was the perfect pantomime villain, particularly in this country; German, of course, ruthlessly efficient, ultra-aggressive. Whereas previous greats such as Sir Jackie Stewart or Juan Manuel Fangio left the door open to their rivals when racing, for fear of making what could easily have been fatal contact, Michael went all out in his pursuit of victory.Sometimes he overstepped the mark – Jerez in 1997 and Rascasse in 2006 spring to mind – and those indiscretions made him unpalatable to the sporting purist. He was marked down by some, including me, as a tainted champion. But you cannot argue with his achievements.At the end of the day he had the same rules and the same race marshals as the rest of us. And he destroyed us.

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I had numerous run-ins with Michael, most famously at Spa in 1998 after we collided on a wet track and he stormed over to the McLaren garage and accused me of trying to kill him. I asked him later, in exasperation, whether he had ever been wrong about anything at any point in his life. “Not that I can remember,” he replied. To me that summed him up.He had complete and utter self-belief. It was what made him a champion.And what a champion: 91 grand prix victories and seven drivers’ world titles. I can say now, and again it is with the benefit of hindsight, that I was never on his level. You cannot admit that, even to yourself, during your career because you need to have self-belief but I have no trouble admitting it now.Michael was the reference point for me. I can see that now. If I beat him to a win or a podium, I knew I had done a very good job. He gave my career credibility.As I said, we did not always see eye to eye but there were two sides to Michael.He was a ruthless competitor but at the same time he was a family man; generous, kind. If you were part of his trusted circle then he was loyal. If you were not, he could cut you off completely.I never knew exactly which camp I belonged to but our shared relationship with Mercedes-Benz meant that we were thrown together regularly.I can vividly recall being invited to Michael’s private parties after the German Grand Prix and staying up smoking cigars with him, late at night after a few drinks, talking about just how lucky we were to be doing what we loved.There was always that underlying respect. When Michael retired at the end of 2006 he approached me and suggested we swap helmets. It had never even occurred to me to ask him. Why would he have wanted my helmet? But he knew that I collected them and I was honoured that he offered me his. It remains one of my prized possessions and I know he keeps mine at his home in Switzerland.I think Michael might have got more credit before now had he not burnt his bridges so completely with the British media, to whom he was completely closed, at least during his first career. I think Sebastian Vettelmay have learnt from that experience.In any case, Michael’s comeback with Mercedes showed he had a more human side. And in a funny way, it cemented his legacy rather than harmed it.Watching him struggle to match Sebastian and Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso, not always through fault of his own, proved that time waits for no man. It was too easy during his first career to assume that he simply swept all before him.Those struggles with Mercedes gave us, certainly me, a new-found appreciation for the unbelievable levels of consistency he achieved in his first career.This skiing crash has connected Michael to the rest of us on a human level once and for all. Here is a father, like any other, his wife and children at his bedside praying for him to pull through. It is something to which we can all relate.The awful thing is that so often it takes something like this before we say what we truly feel about someone.I hope that in this instance, with Michael having received such swift medical attention, and given the fact that he continues to receive the very best treatment possible, he is going to emerge victorious once again. And when he does he is going to realise in
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Mooi stuk van David Coulthard over Michael Schumacher

I only hope Michael Schumacher pulls through so that he can see all the nice things people are saying about him

With hindsight I know now that I was never on the seven-time world champion's level but he gave my career as a Formula One driver credibility

Wellbeing over the past 36 hours, not only from the world of Formula One but from the wider sporting, and indeed non-sporting, community has been wonderful to see. In my opinion it constitutes long-overdue recognition of Michael's status as a true sporting great.

I only hope and pray that he pulls through to see what nice things people have been saying about him. The truth is I do not believe that Michael has ever truly received the praise or recognition that his stunning achievements merited.

And I say that now with the benefit of hindsight. For years Michael was the perfect pantomime villain, particularly in this country; German, of course, ruthlessly efficient, ultra-aggressive.
Whereas previous greats such as Sir Jackie Stewart or Juan Manuel Fangio left the door open to their rivals when racing, for fear of making what could easily have been fatal contact, Michael went all out in his pursuit of victory.
Sometimes he overstepped the mark; Jerez in 1997 and Rascasse in 2006 spring to mind; and those indiscretions made him unpalatable to the sporting purist. He was marked down by some, including me, as a tainted champion.

But you cannot argue with his achievements. At the end of the day he had the same rules and the same race marshals as the rest of us. And he destroyed us.

I had numerous run-ins with Michael, most famously at Spa in 1998 after we collided on a wet track and he stormed over to the McLaren garage and accused me of trying to kill him. I asked him later, in exasperation, whether he had ever been wrong about anything at any point in his life.

Not that I can remember; he replied. To me that summed him up.
He had complete and utter self-belief. It was what made him a champion. And what a champion: 91 grand prix victories and seven drivers world titles.

I can say now, and again it is with the benefit of hindsight, that I was never on his level.

You cannot admit that, even to yourself, during your career because you need to have self-belief but I have no trouble admitting it now. Michael was the reference point for me. I can see that now.
If I beat him to a win or a podium, I knew I had done a very good job.
He gave my career credibility.

As I said, we did not always see eye to eye but there were two sides to Michael. He was a ruthless competitor but at the same time he was a family man; generous, kind. If you were part of his trusted circle then he was loyal. If you were not, he could cut you off completely.

I never knew exactly which camp I belonged to but our shared relationship with Mercedes-Benz meant that we were thrown together regularly.
I can vividly recall being invited to Michael's private parties after the German Grand Prix and staying up smoking cigars with him, late at night after a few drinks, talking about just how lucky we were to be doing what we loved.

There was always that underlying respect. When Michael retired at the end of 2006 he approached me and suggested we swap helmets. It had never even occurred to me to ask him. Why would he have wanted my helmet? But he knew that I collected them and I was honoured that he offered me his. It remains one of my prized possessions and I know he keeps mine at his home in Switzerland.

I think Michael might have got more credit before now had he not burnt his bridges so completely with the British media, to whom he was completely closed, at least during his first career. I think Sebastian Vettel, may have learnt from that experience. In any case, Michael's comeback with Mercedes showed he had a more human side. And in a funny way, it cemented his legacy rather than harmed it.

Watching him struggle to match Sebastian and Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso, not always through fault of his own, proved that time waits for no man. It was too easy during his first career to assume that he simply swept all before him. Those struggles with Mercedes gave us, certainly me, a new-found appreciation for the unbelievable levels of consistency he achieved in his first career.

This skiing crash has connected Michael to the rest of us on a human level once and for all. Here is a father, like any other, his wife and children at his bedside praying for him to pull through. It is something to which we can all relate.

The awful thing is that so often it takes something like this before we say what we truly feel about someone. I hope that in this instance, with Michael having received such swift medical attention, and given the fact that he continues to receive the very best treatment possible, he is going to emerge victorious once again. And when he does he is going to realise in
Leesbaar gemaakt.

Mooie woorden van Coutlhard; petje af voor hem _O_
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 31 december 2013 00:36 schreef maniack28 het volgende:
Ik zei van het weekend nog tegen mij ma wat een arrogante kwal Schumi was en dat ik hem voor altijd veracht vanwege zijn gejuich bij de winst in Imola toen mijn jeugdidool aan zijn einde kwam.

Dit had ik echter niet bedoeld met die opmerking..
daar heeft hij wel in het openbaar voor gejankt
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 31 december 2013 00:36 schreef maniack28 het volgende:
Ik zei van het weekend nog tegen mij ma wat een arrogante kwal Schumi was en dat ik hem voor altijd veracht vanwege zijn gejuich bij de winst in Imola toen mijn jeugdidool aan zijn einde kwam.

Dit had ik echter niet bedoeld met die opmerking..
Volgens mij wisten ze toen nog niet dat hij dood was toch?
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Nieuwe persconferentie begint nu, hopen op beter nieuws.
  dinsdag 31 december 2013 @ 11:00:36 #109
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Mooie woorden van Coulthard :).
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'Slight improvement'.
  dinsdag 31 december 2013 @ 11:02:30 #111
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Hij moet nog een keer geopereerd worden? :{.
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15s.gif Op dinsdag 31 december 2013 11:02 schreef knep het volgende:
Hij moet nog een keer geopereerd worden? :{.
Hij is afgelopen nacht nogmaals geopereerd
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  dinsdag 31 december 2013 @ 11:06:39 #113
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7s.gif Op dinsdag 31 december 2013 11:04 schreef Geralt het volgende:

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Hij is afgelopen nacht nogmaals geopereerd
Was idd een fout bericht van de Bild reporter :').
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7s.gif Op dinsdag 31 december 2013 11:04 schreef Geralt het volgende:

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Hij is afgelopen nacht nogmaals geopereerd
Dus toch ?

En buiten de gevarenzone skiŽn :{

:P
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7s.gif Op dinsdag 31 december 2013 11:00 schreef knep het volgende:
Mooie woorden van Coulthard :).
Wat zei hij?

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'Slight improvement'.
^O^
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  dinsdag 31 december 2013 @ 11:12:19 #116
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 31 december 2013 11:11 schreef StateOfMind het volgende:

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Wat zei hij?
Zie eerder dit topic ;).
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7s.gif Op dinsdag 31 december 2013 11:12 schreef knep het volgende:

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Zie eerder dit topic ;).
:@
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  dinsdag 31 december 2013 @ 11:16:59 #118
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7s.gif Op dinsdag 31 december 2013 10:49 schreef Geralt het volgende:

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Volgens mij wisten ze toen nog niet dat hij dood was toch?
Nee, klopt. Maar het heeft mijn beeld van hem wel voor altijd getekend. Het was een goeie coureur hoor, maar zoals Coulthard al zegt een vrij besloten man, behalve voor zijn speciale kring.

Senna was gepassioneerd over racen, dat zag je, dat voelde je. Racen stroomde door zijn bloed. Hij wilde ook winnen, maar volgens mij vooral racen.

Als ik naar Schumi kijk dan zie ik meer iemand die wilt winnen, koste wat het kost. Begrijp me niet verkeerd, het is een fantastische sportman die prachtige prestaties heeft geleverd. Hij heeft alleen geen charme, geen passie, geen liefde naar de buitenwereld.

In short: Schumi zijn persoonlijkheid ligt me niet ;)
Cause I'd rather continue my trip to the top of the mountain then freeze to death in the valley.
  dinsdag 31 december 2013 @ 11:26:38 #119
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 31 december 2013 11:16 schreef maniack28 het volgende:

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Nee, klopt. Maar het heeft mijn beeld van hem wel voor altijd getekend. Het was een goeie coureur hoor, maar zoals Coulthard al zegt een vrij besloten man, behalve voor zijn speciale kring.

Senna was gepassioneerd over racen, dat zag je, dat voelde je. Racen stroomde door zijn bloed. Hij wilde ook winnen, maar volgens mij vooral racen.

Als ik naar Schumi kijk dan zie ik meer iemand die wilt winnen, koste wat het kost. Begrijp me niet verkeerd, het is een fantastische sportman die prachtige prestaties heeft geleverd. Hij heeft alleen geen charme, geen passie, geen liefde naar de buitenwereld.

In short: Schumi zijn persoonlijkheid ligt me niet ;)
Dat is gewoon persoonlijk, ik vond Senna een arrogant ventje en een slechte verliezer maar die is een soort heilig verklaard
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  dinsdag 31 december 2013 @ 11:31:19 #120
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 31 december 2013 11:26 schreef Tarado het volgende:

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Dat is gewoon persoonlijk, ik vond Senna een arrogant ventje en een slechte verliezer maar die is een soort heilig verklaard
Dat zeg ik ook ;)
Cause I'd rather continue my trip to the top of the mountain then freeze to death in the valley.
  dinsdag 31 december 2013 @ 11:33:58 #121
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 31 december 2013 11:31 schreef maniack28 het volgende:

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Dat zeg ik ook ;)
Begrijp ik maar moet toch wat tegengas geven :)
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  dinsdag 31 december 2013 @ 11:42:27 #122
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 31 december 2013 11:33 schreef Tarado het volgende:

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Begrijp ik maar moet toch wat tegengas geven :)
Terwijl ik toch lovende woorden voor hem over had ;)

Laten we maar hopen dat hij bij komt zonder functieverlies.. anders wordt het kansloos voor hem. Niemand wil een Schumi zien met kwijl uit zijn bek en rijdend in een rolstoel.
Cause I'd rather continue my trip to the top of the mountain then freeze to death in the valley.
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Kom op Schumi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 31 december 2013 11:06 schreef tong80 het volgende:

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Dus toch ?

En buiten de gevarenzone skiŽn :{

:P
Was hij maar buiten de gevarenzone gaan skiŽn... ;)

Nu zat hij juist tussen twee geprepareerde pistes in, met z'n 14-jarige zoon.
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Op maandag 12 oktober 2009 00:26 schreef vosss het volgende:
:*-je voor Sally, gewoon omdat ik haar lief vind :@
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 31 december 2013 11:16 schreef maniack28 het volgende:

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Nee, klopt. Maar het heeft mijn beeld van hem wel voor altijd getekend. Het was een goeie coureur hoor, maar zoals Coulthard al zegt een vrij besloten man, behalve voor zijn speciale kring.

Senna was gepassioneerd over racen, dat zag je, dat voelde je. Racen stroomde door zijn bloed. Hij wilde ook winnen, maar volgens mij vooral racen.

Als ik naar Schumi kijk dan zie ik meer iemand die wilt winnen, koste wat het kost. Begrijp me niet verkeerd, het is een fantastische sportman die prachtige prestaties heeft geleverd. Hij heeft alleen geen charme, geen passie, geen liefde naar de buitenwereld.

In short: Schumi zijn persoonlijkheid ligt me niet ;)

Dit geldt ook voor mij.

Maar ondanks alle ergernis over Der Schumi, z'n trucjes en z'n briljante strateeg achter hem, Ross Brawn, gun ik dit een grote sportlegende als hij is, ook niet. Zijn familie al helemaal niet.
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Op maandag 12 oktober 2009 00:26 schreef vosss het volgende:
:*-je voor Sally, gewoon omdat ik haar lief vind :@

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