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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 22:09 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
als dat ding ook nog als HDD-recorder gebruikt kan worden haal ik em wel bij launch, anders wacht ik nog even.
Voor een HDD-recorder is het wel weer jammer dat er 2.5" schijfjes worden gebruikt, wil je veel opslag heb je vaak trage schijven
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 22:43:31 #202
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I work in the semi conductor industry and saw a demo a few weeks ago of the ps3 at a client of ours in Korea.....believe me its worth the wait. The in game footage was rather hard to believe, but this might just be the first time a system lives up to the hype.

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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 22:43 schreef no-way het volgende:
I work in the semi conductor industry and saw a demo a few weeks ago of the ps3 at a client of ours in Korea.....believe me its worth the wait. The in game footage was rather hard to believe, but this might just be the first time a system lives up to the hype.
Ja, de buurman van een vriend van m'n baas z'n manager in Singapore die z'n buurman had het ook gezien.
Wordt erg vet, zei hij. !
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 22:59:40 #204
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 22:56 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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Ja, de buurman van een vriend van m'n baas z'n manager in Singapore die z'n buurman had het ook gezien.
Wordt erg vet, zei hij. !
de vriend van mijn professor van mijn oude school heeft gezegd dat tie juist erg slecht gaat worden
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 22:59:49 #205
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 22:56 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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Ja, de buurman van een vriend van m'n baas z'n manager in Singapore die z'n buurman had het ook gezien.
Wordt erg vet, zei hij. !
whatever .....i'm sure its too much for you to comprehend that maybe someone on the planet has actually seen it.
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Je snapt toch wel dat het niet bepaald een betrouwbaar iets is he? Sowieso is er niets wat de PS3 kan op grafisch vlak waar andere systemen ver vanaf zitten voor zover bekend .
  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:02:29 #207
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 22:59 schreef no-way het volgende:

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whatever .....i'm sure its too much for you to comprehend that maybe someone on the planet has actually seen it. Any way from what I saw I can't imagine it being cheap
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:04:07 #208
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:02 schreef Retuobak het volgende:
Je snapt toch wel dat het niet bepaald een betrouwbaar iets is he? Sowieso is er niets wat de PS3 kan op grafisch vlak waar andere systemen ver vanaf zitten voor zover bekend .
first of all it didn't look like the shiny silver box in the picture....but hey you believe what you want.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 22:59 schreef no-way het volgende:

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whatever .....i'm sure its too much for you to comprehend that maybe someone on the planet has actually seen it.
No it's not.
But there are several people on the internet that claim they have seen it also, and they say it's nowhere near what Sony showed us at the E3.
So it's your word against several others. I'll believe it when I see it.
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:05:56 #210
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:06:00 #211
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:04 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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No it's not.
But there are several people on the internet that claim they have seen it also, and they say it's no where near what Sony showed us at the E3.
So it's his word against several others. I'll believe it when I see it.
exactly what i said , it wasn't the silver box in the picture, it was a demo of certain cpu capabilities.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:04 schreef no-way het volgende:

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first of all it didn't look like the shiny silver box in the picture....but hey you believe what you want.
Mmmh wat te geloven:
Optie 1: Honderden developers die zeggen dat de PS3 vergelijkbaar is in grafische kracht met de 360, in het begin zelfs vrijwel in z'n geheel gelijk. Enkel later in de levensduur iets krachtiger.
Optie 2: Een random user die zegt gezien te hebben dat het uber is.

Weet je heel zeker dat ze je geen pre-rendered zooi voor hebben gezet? Als je al iets gezien hebt that is.

[edit]Ah, een CPU demo, das natuurlijk niks bijzonders . Persoonlijk vond ik Ageia's demo's van de PhysX PPU iets indrukwekkender dan de physics demo's die Sony laat zien.
  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:06:54 #213
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:05 schreef kepler het volgende:
zeg praat eens gewoon Nederlands
i'm queenr's hubbie, english is easier
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:04 schreef no-way het volgende:

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first of all it didn't look like the shiny silver box in the picture....but hey you believe what you want.
Ah, you expected us to believe you right away? , , .
Besides that, maybe it was a pre-rendered demo. Like the E3.
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Jij mag wel Nederlands praten hoor Daggla, check z'n fotoboek . Hij kan gewoon NL lezen/spreken, alleen schrijven niet geweldig .
  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:08:35 #216
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:06 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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Mmmh wat te geloven:
Optie 1: Honderden developers die zeggen dat de PS3 vergelijkbaar is in grafische kracht met de 360, in het begin zelfs vrijwel in z'n geheel gelijk. Enkel later in de levensduur iets krachtiger.
Optie 2: Een random user die zegt gezien te hebben dat het uber is.

Weet je heel zeker dat ze je geen pre-rendered zooi voor hebben gezet? Als je al iets gezien hebt that is.

[edit]Ah, een CPU demo, das natuurlijk niks bijzonders . Persoonlijk vond ik Ageia's demo's van de PhysX PPU iets indrukwekkender.
I said nothing about graphics.And yes it is more than the 360
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:08:59 #217
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:06 schreef no-way het volgende:

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i'm queenr's hubbie, english is easier
jij hier

Nederlands is nog steeds de voertaal hier
als je echt perse Engels wil praten moet je hier heen: www.ga-forums.com
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:06 schreef no-way het volgende:

it was a demo of certain cpu capabilities.
Aha, so no gameplay footage..
So actually you haven't seen anything .
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:08 schreef no-way het volgende:

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I said nothing about graphics.And yes it is more than the 360
Ik ontken zeer zeker niet dat de PS3 krachtiger is, maar we hebben het dan over enkele procenten . En dat is zeer zeker niet voldoen aan de zoals gewoonlijk belachelijk grote hype.
  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:10:24 #220
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:09 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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Aha, so no gameplay footage..
So actually you haven't seen anything .
I did see a killzone demo....but that was pre rendered
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:08 schreef no-way het volgende:

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And yes it is more than the 360
Based on a friggin' CPU demo? !
You haven't even seen actual gameplay footage. That's a pretty bold statement you're making there..
Based on absolutely errrrrrrr nothing. .
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:12:13 #222
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:09 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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Ik ontken zeer zeker niet dat de PS3 krachtiger is, maar we hebben het dan over enkele procenten . En dat is zeer zeker niet voldoen aan de zoals gewoonlijk belachelijk grote hype.
it is more powerfull than the 360 and not a few percent, but its the software that's gonna make or brake it.
this is gonna hurt!!!
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:08 schreef Retuobak het volgende:
Jij mag wel Nederlands praten hoor Daggla, check z'n fotoboek . Hij kan gewoon NL lezen/spreken, alleen schrijven niet geweldig .
Ik ben niet te beroerd in het Engels te communiceren hoor.
Ik zou het ook prettig vinden als men hier Grieks ging praten, dus ik hem wel .
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:13:28 #224
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:12 schreef no-way het volgende:

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it is more powerfull than the 360 and not a few percent, but its the software that's gonna make or brake it.
yes, but seen in Flops the PS2 was also more powerful then the Xbox, but yet the Xbox had the best graphics seen over the whole line
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:13:55 #225
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:11 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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Based on a friggin' CPU demo? !
You haven't even seen actual gameplay footage. That's a pretty bold statement you're making there..
Based on absolutely errrrrrrr nothing. .
I have no idea what the use is of this forum if you know all the answers.
this is gonna hurt!!!
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:12 schreef no-way het volgende:

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it is more powerfull than the 360 and not a few percent
True, it's probably even less than a few percent.
A lot of developers already mentioned that.
But errrrr, you make this statement based on what?
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:12 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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Ik ben niet te beroerd in het Engels te communiceren hoor.
Ik zou het ook prettig vinden als men hier Grieks ging praten, dus ik hem wel .
Αλλά τα ελληνικά δεν είναι διασκέδαση
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Zelfs Ken heeft al gezegd dat de PS3 nog niet final is. Misschien dat die vriend van een neef van een buurman van die stiefzoon van die vriendin van die buurvrouw (toch?) een devkit gezien heeft. En ja, die zien er heeeeel anders uit.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:13 schreef no-way het volgende:

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I have no idea what the use is of this forum if you know all the answers.
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Dude, .
You're the one making statements based on absolutely nothing.
Or are you a developer that actually worked with both dev-kits?
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:16:11 #230
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:13 schreef kepler het volgende:

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yes, but seen in Flops the PS2 was also more powerful then the Xbox, but yet the Xbox had the best graphics seen over the whole line
believe me they don't wanna let any one down with this one. But like i said it's not gonna be cheap
this is gonna hurt!!!
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:12 schreef no-way het volgende:

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it is more powerfull than the 360 and not a few percent, but its the software that's gonna make or brake it.
De CPU zal het grote voordeel zijn voor de PS3, evenals de snelheid van het systeemgeheugen. Maar de grafische kaart in de PS3 is erg conventioneel en inefficient vergeleken met die van de 360, daar komt nog eens bij dat het geheugen van de 360 unified is waardoor de allocatie van de resources op de 360 veel efficiënter zal zijn dan die op de PS3 .

En qua physics vind ik het voordeel wel meevallen, we zitten tegen een muur aan namelijk. Physics hebben een bepaald niveau bereikt, de bekende brekende ruiten, realistisch vallende lijken, realistisch stuiterende voorwerpen etc. Maar de echt leuke dingen qua physics zijn nog een eindje weg, niet alleen vanwege de extreem grote eis in hardware-kracht maar met name dankzij de extreem gestegen developmentkosten. Stel je het werk maar eens voor dat men zou moeten steken in een realistisch instortend bakstenen huis. Dat duurt nog wel ff .
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:14 schreef Tain het volgende:

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Αλλά τα ελληνικά δεν είναι διασκέδαση
Dat is het wel !
Wat is het ook een mooie taal he .
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:18:35 #233
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:15 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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Dude, .
You're the one making statements based on absolutely nothing.
Or are you a developer that actually worked with both dev-kits?
If i told you we were involved with chip development would you believe me, i guess not ,so lets leave it at that then.
this is gonna hurt!!!
  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:18:37 #234
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:16 schreef no-way het volgende:

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believe me they don't wanna let any one down with this one. But like i said it's not gonn be cheap
so in the end the PS3 will get a hand full of beatiful games, and the rest will look like much worse because those developers don't have the skills and the money to make a beautiful games??? So in the long run the average of the games on the 360 will look better then the average on the PS3?
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:16 schreef no-way het volgende:

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believe me they don't wanna let any one down with this one. But like i said it's not gonn be cheap
Ze wilden dat ook niet bij de vorige 2 generaties, maar als je Pixar-style beelden laat zien op de E3 dan hype je gewoon mensen te ver op. Ik denk dat behoorlijk wat mensen teleurgesteld zijn wanneer ze Killzone PS3 in speelbare vorm zien, want er is no way dat ze de kwaliteit van hun leuke filmpje gaan evenaren.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:18 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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Dat is het wel !
Wat is het ook een mooie taal he .
Begrijp er geen reet van, had net zo goed iets anders kunnen staan

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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:22:13 #237
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:19 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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Ze wilden dat ook niet bij de vorige 2 generaties, maar als je Pixar-style beelden laat zien op de E3 dan hype je gewoon mensen te ver op. Ik denk dat behoorlijk wat mensen teleurgesteld zijn wanneer ze Killzone PS3 in speelbare vorm zien, want er is no way dat ze de kwaliteit van hun leuke filmpje gaan evenaren.
the killzone demo i saw was pre rendered and to get that in the game would be a system seller i think.
this is gonna hurt!!!
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:18 schreef no-way het volgende:

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If i told you we were involved with chip development would you believe me, i guess not ,so lets leave it at that then.
Yes and no. (besides the fact that I do believe you're pretty biased since you worked on the chip yourself . )
I do believe the Cell is a real powerfull chip, but the GPU of the X360 is better that the RSX.
So I think it the difference will be negligible
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:22 schreef no-way het volgende:

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the killzone demo i saw was pre rendered and to get that in the game would be a system seller i think.
It would be, sadly that's just not gonna happen. Or did they just quadruple the fillrate of the RSX?
  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:23:58 #240
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:18 schreef kepler het volgende:

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so in the end the PS3 will get a hand full of beatiful games, and the rest will look like much worse because those developers don't have the skills and the money to make a beautiful games??? So in the long run the average of the games on the 360 will look better then the average on the PS3?
you are definately on to something. How easy is it to program for? Especially if the games are huge and on blue ray.
this is gonna hurt!!!
  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:24:10 #241
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:22 schreef no-way het volgende:

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the killzone demo i saw was pre rendered and to get that in the game would be a system seller i think.
true
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killzone demo was een hoop, maar geen pixar-kwaliteit, je kon links en rechts nog clipping problemen zien, en stilstaand kun je zien hoe plat de karakters nog waren vergeleken met The Incredibles.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:23 schreef no-way het volgende:

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you are definately on to something. How easy is it to program for? Especially if the games are huge and on blue ray.
Most developers say the graphics battle between the 360 and PS3 will be a tie early on due to the 360's easy architecture and the PS3's impossible-to-optimise architecture. However later in the generation the PS3 should get a small advantage graphically over the 360. But the developers do emphasise that the difference will never be as large as say the PS2 and Xbox.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:22 schreef no-way het volgende:

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the killzone demo i saw was pre rendered and to get that in the game would be a system seller i think.
Yes! That's absolutely true.
But these kind of graphics cannot be realized ingame. Not yet, maybe in a year or 4.
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:26:20 #245
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:22 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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Yes and no. (besides the fact that I do believe you're pretty biased since you worked on the chip yourself . )
I do believe the Cell is a real powerfull chip, but the GPU of the X360 is better that the RSX.
So I think it the difference will be negligible
ah ah you do know something, yes he Gpu of the 360 is awesome, but the cell is still in its infantcy as to what it can do in a graphical powerhouse.
this is gonna hurt!!!
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:23 schreef no-way het volgende:

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you are definately on to something. How easy is it to program for? Especially if the games are huge and on blue ray.
The games will probably be on DVD, not BR.
The BR drive is probably too slow for games.
Strange that you didn't know this.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:25 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
killzone demo was een hoop, maar geen pixar-kwaliteit, je kon links en rechts nog clipping problemen zien, en stilstaand kun je zien hoe plat de karakters nog waren vergeleken met The Incredibles.
Paar foutjes, granted, maar dat kwam gewoon omdat het een haastklus was. Ik verwacht zeer zeker niet dergelijke graphics tot hooguit de allerlaatste PS3 games. Maar zelfs dat verwacht ik niet gezien het aanzienlijke detail van het filmpje, er gebeurt gewoon ongelofelijk veel tegelijk en alles is gedaan in enorm detail.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:23 schreef no-way het volgende:

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you are definately on to something. How easy is it to program for? Especially if the games are huge and on blue ray.
if programmers can work with the Unreal Engine (and from what I've heard, it's a breeze to work with), they should have little trouble unlocking the potentials of the PS3. Only high skilled programmers will have access to it's full power however, I think.
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:28:28 #250
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:25 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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Most developers say the graphics battle between the 360 and PS3 will be a tie early on due to the 360's easy architecture and the PS3's impossible-to-optimise architecture. However later in the generation the PS3 should get a small advantage graphically over the 360. But the developers do emphasise that the difference will never be as large as say the PS2 and Xbox.
The cell chip has potential but the developers we spoke to were excited and scared.
this is gonna hurt!!!
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:26 schreef no-way het volgende:

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ah ah you do know something, yes he Gpu of the 360 is awesome, but the cell is still in its infantcy as to what it can do in a graphical powerhouse.
I don't believe the Cell to have the large impact on graphics most people say it will have, Sony rushed over to nVidia in the last minute for a reason. Conservative as I am, the main factors that influence graphic performance I believe to be the GPU itself obviously, memory bandwith (and capacity) and I/O bandwith.
  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:29:39 #252
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:27 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:

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if programmers can work with the Unreal Engine (and from what I've heard, it's a breeze to work with), they should have little trouble unlocking the potentials of the PS3. Only high skilled programmers will have access to it's full power however, I think.
thats why you're gonna see some mindblowing stuff and some games you can compare with the xbox( the old one)
this is gonna hurt!!!
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:27 schreef SToRM81 het volgende:
Sinds wanneer zijn de specs van de RSX bekend dan?
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or "Reality Synthesizer" design co-developed by NVIDIA and Sony:

* Clocked at 550 MHz
* 1.8 TFLOPS (trillion floating point operations per second)
* Full high definition output (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
* Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
* 136 shader operations per clock
* 74.8 billion shader operations per second (100 billion with CPU)
* 33 billion dot products per second (51 billion dot products with CPU)
* 128-bit pixel precision offers rendering of scenes with high dynamic range imaging

NVidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang stated during Sony's pre-show press conference at E3 2005 that the RSX will be more powerful than two GeForce 6800 Ultra video cards combined.
Al vrij lang. .
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:30:58 #254
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:29 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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I don't believe the Cell to have the large impact on graphics most people say it will have, Sony rushed over to nVidia in the last minute for a reason. Conservative as I am, the main factors that influence graphic performance I believe to be the GPU itself obviously, memory bandwith (and capacity) and I/O bandwith.
the cell 's abilities to share tasks is still being worked on but that's the uncertainty factor in the equation.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:27 schreef SToRM81 het volgende:
Sinds wanneer zijn de specs van de RSX bekend dan?
De RSX is een G71, een G70 (7800GT(X)) die een die-shrink heeft gekregen naar 90nm en is aangepast om direct te kunnen communiceren met de PS3. Verder is hij geclockt op 550mhz. Een procentje of 10 slomer dan de 7800GTX 512MB dus overall.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:29 schreef no-way het volgende:

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thats why you're gonna see some mindblowing stuff and some games you can compare with the xbox( the old one)
Gears of War (X360) is running off the Unreal Engine 3.0. I think it's far better then the old Xbox, graphically.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:32 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:

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Gears of War (X360) is running off the Unreal Engine 3.0. I think it's far better then the old Xbox, graphically.
Ik denk dat ie bedoelt dat er een hoop "mindblowing" games komen en ook wat games die grafisch gezien gelijk zijn aan de XBOX 1. (gemaakt door de wat mindere devers)
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:32 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:

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Gears of War (X360) is running off the Unreal Engine 3.0. I think it's far better then the old Xbox, graphically.
It looks nice sure, but I'm so done with all these extremely dark monstershooters. Developers need to think of an original setting. Far Cry was a nice change, I'd like to see more settings that differ from the going standard (which is dark hallways and half-destroyed laboratories)
  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:34:27 #259
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:32 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:

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Gears of War (X360) is running off the Unreal Engine 3.0. I think it's far better then the old Xbox, graphically.
What i mean to say is don't expect every game on the ps3 to be earth shattering because it wont, programmers will be out to get a quick buck and the consumer will loose. That's just a fact of every new system
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:35:35 #260
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:33 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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Ik denk dat ie bedoelt dat er een hoop "mindblowing" games komen en ook wat games die grafisch gezien gelijk zijn aan de XBOX 1. (gemaakt door de wat mindere devers)
yep
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sorry, my english gets slower by the hour. You should see it in the morning though
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:34 schreef no-way het volgende:

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What i mean to say is don't expect every game on the ps3 to be earth shattering because it wont, programmers will be out to get a quick buck and the consumer will loose. That's just a fact of every new system
Yeah, but not every game profits as much from better graphcis anyway. F.E.A.R. I wouldn't wanna play with shitty graphics. But I got no problem playing say a GTA game that looks less than stellar.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:33 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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It looks nice sure, but I'm so done with all these extremely dark monstershooters. Developers need to think of an original setting. Far Cry was a nice change, I'd like to see more settings that differ from the going standard (which is dark hallways and half-destroyed laboratories)
Dark is a clever way to hide flaws in graphical engines , by this i mean things you wont even notice. Far cry was a bold game.
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hey, if games are going to look this good on the PS3 I'm happy, as long as the gameplay is solid. If I want fancy graphics, I'll buy a damn painting.
The Darkness PS3/X360

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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:38:38 #265
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:36 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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Yeah, but not every game profits as much from better graphcis anyway. F.E.A.R. I wouldn't wanna play with shitty graphics. But I got no problem playing say a GTA game that looks less than stellar.
Hey what ever floats your boat, graphics are by no means the measuring stick of a good game.
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:39:20 #266
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:37 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
hey, if games are going to look this good on the PS3 I'm happy, as long as the gameplay is solid. If I want fancy graphics, I'll buy a damn painting.
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haha..... you will like the ps3
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Indeed, but I'd say Crytek pulled it off. Maybe the plants were a bit jaggy, but back in early 2004 a game of that size with graphics being what they were was amazing. I literally couldn't believe my eyes the first time I played the fort demo. And man, the way they're topping what they did with Far Cry with the new game they're working on (Crysis) is insane.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:37 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
as long as the gameplay is solid.
We have a winner!!!
I prefer ugly games with killer gameplay over beautiful games with shitty gameplay. .
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:31 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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De RSX is een G71, een G70 (7800GT(X)) die een die-shrink heeft gekregen naar 90nm en is aangepast om direct te kunnen communiceren met de PS3. Verder is hij geclockt op 550mhz. Een procentje of 10 slomer dan de 7800GTX 512MB dus overall.
Hmmm...dat wist ik niet. Bedankt voor de info

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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:39 schreef no-way het volgende:

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haha..... you will like the ps3
I think every gamer with common sense will.
Except some Nintendoids, but we're talking real gamers here. .
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:41 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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I think every gamer with common sense will.
If they keep the quality up as high as they did the previous 2 gens I definitely agree with you on this.
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Except some Nintendoids, but we're talking real gamers here. .
Any chance you get to bash 'em huh?
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The potential is there with the ps3 and from what i've heard in a few meetings , Sony don't wanna drop the ball with this one
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:39 schreef no-way het volgende:

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haha..... you will like the ps3
As long as they don't up Devil May Cry 4 like they did 2, or Tekken 6 like Tekken Tag Tournament. Or.....well you get the picture. I'm waiting for gameplay here man.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:42 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

Any chance you get to bash 'em huh?
What goes around, comes around .
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:43 schreef no-way het volgende:
The potential is there with the ps3 and from what i've heard in a few meetings , Sony don't wanna drop the ball with this one
I'd say the stakes are higher than they've ever been and MS and Nintendo are just as intent on not fucking up.
  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:45:27 #276
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:42 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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If they keep the quality up as high as they did the previous 2 gens I definitely agree with you on this.
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Any chance you get to bash 'em huh?
we met some Nintendo developers in japan and they were also pretty enthusiastic about their new system,but I know nothing about that.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:43 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:

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As long as they don't up Devil May Cry 4 like they did 2, or Tekken 6 like Tekken Tag Tournament. Or.....well you get the picture. I'm waiting for gameplay here man.
Tekken Tag Tournament was by far the best Tekken imho. .
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:46:52 #278
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:43 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:

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As long as they don't up Devil May Cry 4 like they did 2, or Tekken 6 like Tekken Tag Tournament. Or.....well you get the picture. I'm waiting for gameplay here man.
They heard lots of negativity over Tekken...gamepley and so on, so we'll just have to see.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:45 schreef no-way het volgende:

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we met some Nintendo developers in japan and they were also pretty enthusiastic about their new system,but I know nothing about that.
Nintendo is pretty much unhyping (if there is such a word) me every day. Not releasing info, no game announcements, no ingame shots, no definite hardware info, no release date, no price, no list of features. They think silence hypes people, it did for a month or 2, then it just got plain annoying.

Nah the Revolution is all but scratched from my list of hardware I'm interested in.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:45 schreef no-way het volgende:

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we met some Nintendo developers in japan and they were also pretty enthusiastic about their new system,but I know nothing about that.
To be honest, I don't like the concept of the controller. .
Call me old fashioned, but for me console gaming is done with a regular gamepad.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:47 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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To be honest, I don't like the concept of the controller. .
Call me old fashioned, but for me console gaming is done with a regular gamepad.
I don't like the fact that to actually use the Z-axis (and thus make it more than just an airmouse, technology that's been around for ages) you're going to have to get into a position that'll force you to stop playing after half an hour tops due to straining issues.
  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:49:54 #282
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:47 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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To be honest, I don't like the concept of the controller. .
Call me old fashioned, but for me console gaming is done with a regular gamepad.
Thats just the thing they were raving about , maybe they know something we don't, I was told that this is make or brake for them( if thats true i'm not sure)
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I think the stakes so high, one of the big three might get kicked out of the game this generation. And the way things are looking, to be honest, MS has the best papers to drop out of the game. Nintendo is calling out to all it's fanboys (which are 60-70% of the grown-ups today who had a console in their youth) with the Rev, by adding full backwards compatibilty.
Sony has the biggest marketshare at the moment, even if you put X360 and Xbox together. And with the Sony Online Gaming Service (aka Live-killer) underway according to rumors, plus the big exclusive game-listing of PS1, 2 and that continues on 3, Sony has taking a serious blow by Xbox, a nice high-kick by X360, but it is about to "show the grasshopper that it has much to learn from it's master" (to stay in the terms of the article mentioned above).
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It's probably make or break for them in the console market, but I'd say there'd be money in them going 3rd party on home consoles and aiming their sights solely on handhelds, which admittedly are the mainstream gaming future anyway.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:45 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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Tekken Tag Tournament was by far the best Tekken imho. .
You're just saying this because you never touched Tekken 3 right?
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MS is not leaving the game, let's be honest here, it's Bill Gates' personal program. And aside from that they got a pretty solid basis to make some money here (live subscriptions, live arcade, content downloads etc. aside from the regular 'tax' on games), and unlike Nintendo they don't have that much money to gain from going 3rd party.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:51 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
I think the stakes so high, one of the big three might get kicked out of the game this generation. And the way things are looking, to be honest, MS has the best papers to drop out of the game. Nintendo is calling out to all it's fanboys (which are 60-70% of the grown-ups today who had a console in their youth) with the Rev, by adding full backwards compatibilty.
Sony has the biggest marketshare at the moment, even if you put X360 and Xbox together. And with the Sony Online Gaming Service (aka Live-killer) underway according to rumors, plus the big exclusive game-listing of PS1, 2 and that continues on 3, Sony has taking a serious blow by Xbox, a nice high-kick by X360, but it is about to "show the grasshopper that it has much to learn from it's master" (to stay in the terms of the article mentioned above).
I had a funny feeling about nintendo too, their execs were unbelievebly confident.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:53 schreef no-way het volgende:

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I had a funny feeling about nintendo too, their execs were unbelievebly confident.
Probably because they've got a potential market leader in the East. The West I'm not too sure of, when I look at the UK sales charts I don't see a market that's favourable to Nintendo anymore.
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I think a lot of ppl will by the Rev solely because of the old Nintendo-games you can play. I know I will.
I don't want to play Zelda by waving my hand in the air.
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:55:44 #290
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:52 schreef Retuobak het volgende:
It's probably make or break for them in the console market, but I'd say there'd be money in them going 3rd party on home consoles and aiming their sights solely on handhelds, which admittedly are the mainstream gaming future anyway.
3rd party would be a gold mine for them, and they know it , they have class titles coming out of there yazoo. Which proves again what sells a system.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:55 schreef no-way het volgende:

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3rd party would be a gold mine for them, and they know it , they have class titles coming out of there yazoo. Which proves again what sells a system.
Exactly, and it's not like the controller tech is incompatible with other consoles. They could just market it to those platforms too. And I'm willing to bet Sony would be willing to pay a lot of money for a few of Miyamoto's games on their platform.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:51 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
MS has the best papers to drop out of the game.
Sorry, but this is complete and utter bullshit. .
Besides the fact that MS has more money than Sony and Nintendo combined, Bill Gates already said that even if the X360 is a huge failure, the'll still release a new console.
And the X360 is doing really good (besides Japan). And the stock problems will be solved in a few weeks. If games like PES 6 will be released in Europe before the PS3 is out, the'll do even better.
I think Nintendo is the most likely to lose the next round (just like they lost the current round)
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:58:14 #294
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:54 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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Probably because they've got a potential market leader in the East. The West I'm not too sure of, when I look at the UK sales charts I don't see a market that's favourable to Nintendo anymore.
Not potential, in Japan Nintendo and Sony, hardly anyone's heard of an xbox. I was in Nagano on the day of the launch ( 360). You could walk into a store and buy 10 systems if you wanted too.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:53 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:

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You're just saying this because you never touched Tekken 3 right?
I have all Tekken games here. .
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  woensdag 15 februari 2006 @ 00:00:03 #296
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:56 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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Exactly, and it's not like the controller tech is incompatible with other consoles. They could just market it to those platforms too. And I'm willing to bet Sony would be willing to pay a lot of money for a few of Miyamoto's games on their platform.
I know Sony has enquired about Zelda( thats some serious inside stuff)...uhhmmm the answer was no.
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And NO FRIGGIN WAY that Sony's network thingy is goint to be a LIVE killer.
Impossible. .
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:58 schreef no-way het volgende:

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Not potential, in Japan Nintendo and Sony, hardly anyone's heard of an xbox. I was in Nagano on the day of the launch ( 360). You could walk into a store and buy 10 systems if you wanted too.
Was talking about the Revolution, the way people are going crazy over all these gimmick games in Japan is insane. Fair bet the Revolution will do really well there.
  woensdag 15 februari 2006 @ 00:01:27 #299
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Op woensdag 15 februari 2006 00:00 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:
And NO FRIGGIN WAY that Sony's network thingy is goint to be a LIVE killer.
Impossible. .
I doubt it too.
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Op woensdag 15 februari 2006 00:00 schreef no-way het volgende:

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I know Sony has enquired about Zelda( thats some serious inside stuff)...uhhmmm the answer was no.
I wouldn't be suprised if either Sony or MS will buy Nintendo eventually.
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