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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:26 schreef no-way het volgende:

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ah ah you do know something, yes he Gpu of the 360 is awesome, but the cell is still in its infantcy as to what it can do in a graphical powerhouse.
I don't believe the Cell to have the large impact on graphics most people say it will have, Sony rushed over to nVidia in the last minute for a reason. Conservative as I am, the main factors that influence graphic performance I believe to be the GPU itself obviously, memory bandwith (and capacity) and I/O bandwith.
  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:29:39 #252
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:27 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:

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if programmers can work with the Unreal Engine (and from what I've heard, it's a breeze to work with), they should have little trouble unlocking the potentials of the PS3. Only high skilled programmers will have access to it's full power however, I think.
thats why you're gonna see some mindblowing stuff and some games you can compare with the xbox( the old one)
this is gonna hurt!!!
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:27 schreef SToRM81 het volgende:
Sinds wanneer zijn de specs van de RSX bekend dan?
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or "Reality Synthesizer" design co-developed by NVIDIA and Sony:

* Clocked at 550 MHz
* 1.8 TFLOPS (trillion floating point operations per second)
* Full high definition output (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
* Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
* 136 shader operations per clock
* 74.8 billion shader operations per second (100 billion with CPU)
* 33 billion dot products per second (51 billion dot products with CPU)
* 128-bit pixel precision offers rendering of scenes with high dynamic range imaging

NVidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang stated during Sony's pre-show press conference at E3 2005 that the RSX will be more powerful than two GeForce 6800 Ultra video cards combined.
Al vrij lang. .
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:30:58 #254
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:29 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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I don't believe the Cell to have the large impact on graphics most people say it will have, Sony rushed over to nVidia in the last minute for a reason. Conservative as I am, the main factors that influence graphic performance I believe to be the GPU itself obviously, memory bandwith (and capacity) and I/O bandwith.
the cell 's abilities to share tasks is still being worked on but that's the uncertainty factor in the equation.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:27 schreef SToRM81 het volgende:
Sinds wanneer zijn de specs van de RSX bekend dan?
De RSX is een G71, een G70 (7800GT(X)) die een die-shrink heeft gekregen naar 90nm en is aangepast om direct te kunnen communiceren met de PS3. Verder is hij geclockt op 550mhz. Een procentje of 10 slomer dan de 7800GTX 512MB dus overall.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:29 schreef no-way het volgende:

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thats why you're gonna see some mindblowing stuff and some games you can compare with the xbox( the old one)
Gears of War (X360) is running off the Unreal Engine 3.0. I think it's far better then the old Xbox, graphically.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:32 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:

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Gears of War (X360) is running off the Unreal Engine 3.0. I think it's far better then the old Xbox, graphically.
Ik denk dat ie bedoelt dat er een hoop "mindblowing" games komen en ook wat games die grafisch gezien gelijk zijn aan de XBOX 1. (gemaakt door de wat mindere devers)
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:32 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:

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Gears of War (X360) is running off the Unreal Engine 3.0. I think it's far better then the old Xbox, graphically.
It looks nice sure, but I'm so done with all these extremely dark monstershooters. Developers need to think of an original setting. Far Cry was a nice change, I'd like to see more settings that differ from the going standard (which is dark hallways and half-destroyed laboratories)
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:32 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:

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Gears of War (X360) is running off the Unreal Engine 3.0. I think it's far better then the old Xbox, graphically.
What i mean to say is don't expect every game on the ps3 to be earth shattering because it wont, programmers will be out to get a quick buck and the consumer will loose. That's just a fact of every new system
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:35:35 #260
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:33 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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Ik denk dat ie bedoelt dat er een hoop "mindblowing" games komen en ook wat games die grafisch gezien gelijk zijn aan de XBOX 1. (gemaakt door de wat mindere devers)
yep
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sorry, my english gets slower by the hour. You should see it in the morning though
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:34 schreef no-way het volgende:

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What i mean to say is don't expect every game on the ps3 to be earth shattering because it wont, programmers will be out to get a quick buck and the consumer will loose. That's just a fact of every new system
Yeah, but not every game profits as much from better graphcis anyway. F.E.A.R. I wouldn't wanna play with shitty graphics. But I got no problem playing say a GTA game that looks less than stellar.
  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:37:13 #263
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:33 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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It looks nice sure, but I'm so done with all these extremely dark monstershooters. Developers need to think of an original setting. Far Cry was a nice change, I'd like to see more settings that differ from the going standard (which is dark hallways and half-destroyed laboratories)
Dark is a clever way to hide flaws in graphical engines , by this i mean things you wont even notice. Far cry was a bold game.
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hey, if games are going to look this good on the PS3 I'm happy, as long as the gameplay is solid. If I want fancy graphics, I'll buy a damn painting.
The Darkness PS3/X360

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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:36 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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Yeah, but not every game profits as much from better graphcis anyway. F.E.A.R. I wouldn't wanna play with shitty graphics. But I got no problem playing say a GTA game that looks less than stellar.
Hey what ever floats your boat, graphics are by no means the measuring stick of a good game.
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:39:20 #266
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:37 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
hey, if games are going to look this good on the PS3 I'm happy, as long as the gameplay is solid. If I want fancy graphics, I'll buy a damn painting.
[afbeelding]
haha..... you will like the ps3
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Indeed, but I'd say Crytek pulled it off. Maybe the plants were a bit jaggy, but back in early 2004 a game of that size with graphics being what they were was amazing. I literally couldn't believe my eyes the first time I played the fort demo. And man, the way they're topping what they did with Far Cry with the new game they're working on (Crysis) is insane.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:37 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
as long as the gameplay is solid.
We have a winner!!!
I prefer ugly games with killer gameplay over beautiful games with shitty gameplay. .
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:31 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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De RSX is een G71, een G70 (7800GT(X)) die een die-shrink heeft gekregen naar 90nm en is aangepast om direct te kunnen communiceren met de PS3. Verder is hij geclockt op 550mhz. Een procentje of 10 slomer dan de 7800GTX 512MB dus overall.
Hmmm...dat wist ik niet. Bedankt voor de info

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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:39 schreef no-way het volgende:

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haha..... you will like the ps3
I think every gamer with common sense will.
Except some Nintendoids, but we're talking real gamers here. .
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:41 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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I think every gamer with common sense will.
If they keep the quality up as high as they did the previous 2 gens I definitely agree with you on this.
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Except some Nintendoids, but we're talking real gamers here. .
Any chance you get to bash 'em huh?
  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:43:03 #272
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The potential is there with the ps3 and from what i've heard in a few meetings , Sony don't wanna drop the ball with this one
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:39 schreef no-way het volgende:

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haha..... you will like the ps3
As long as they don't up Devil May Cry 4 like they did 2, or Tekken 6 like Tekken Tag Tournament. Or.....well you get the picture. I'm waiting for gameplay here man.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:42 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

Any chance you get to bash 'em huh?
What goes around, comes around .
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:43 schreef no-way het volgende:
The potential is there with the ps3 and from what i've heard in a few meetings , Sony don't wanna drop the ball with this one
I'd say the stakes are higher than they've ever been and MS and Nintendo are just as intent on not fucking up.
  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:45:27 #276
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:42 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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If they keep the quality up as high as they did the previous 2 gens I definitely agree with you on this.
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Any chance you get to bash 'em huh?
we met some Nintendo developers in japan and they were also pretty enthusiastic about their new system,but I know nothing about that.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:43 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:

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As long as they don't up Devil May Cry 4 like they did 2, or Tekken 6 like Tekken Tag Tournament. Or.....well you get the picture. I'm waiting for gameplay here man.
Tekken Tag Tournament was by far the best Tekken imho. .
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  dinsdag 14 februari 2006 @ 23:46:52 #278
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:43 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:

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As long as they don't up Devil May Cry 4 like they did 2, or Tekken 6 like Tekken Tag Tournament. Or.....well you get the picture. I'm waiting for gameplay here man.
They heard lots of negativity over Tekken...gamepley and so on, so we'll just have to see.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:45 schreef no-way het volgende:

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we met some Nintendo developers in japan and they were also pretty enthusiastic about their new system,but I know nothing about that.
Nintendo is pretty much unhyping (if there is such a word) me every day. Not releasing info, no game announcements, no ingame shots, no definite hardware info, no release date, no price, no list of features. They think silence hypes people, it did for a month or 2, then it just got plain annoying.

Nah the Revolution is all but scratched from my list of hardware I'm interested in.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:45 schreef no-way het volgende:

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we met some Nintendo developers in japan and they were also pretty enthusiastic about their new system,but I know nothing about that.
To be honest, I don't like the concept of the controller. .
Call me old fashioned, but for me console gaming is done with a regular gamepad.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:47 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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To be honest, I don't like the concept of the controller. .
Call me old fashioned, but for me console gaming is done with a regular gamepad.
I don't like the fact that to actually use the Z-axis (and thus make it more than just an airmouse, technology that's been around for ages) you're going to have to get into a position that'll force you to stop playing after half an hour tops due to straining issues.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:47 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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To be honest, I don't like the concept of the controller. .
Call me old fashioned, but for me console gaming is done with a regular gamepad.
Thats just the thing they were raving about , maybe they know something we don't, I was told that this is make or brake for them( if thats true i'm not sure)
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I think the stakes so high, one of the big three might get kicked out of the game this generation. And the way things are looking, to be honest, MS has the best papers to drop out of the game. Nintendo is calling out to all it's fanboys (which are 60-70% of the grown-ups today who had a console in their youth) with the Rev, by adding full backwards compatibilty.
Sony has the biggest marketshare at the moment, even if you put X360 and Xbox together. And with the Sony Online Gaming Service (aka Live-killer) underway according to rumors, plus the big exclusive game-listing of PS1, 2 and that continues on 3, Sony has taking a serious blow by Xbox, a nice high-kick by X360, but it is about to "show the grasshopper that it has much to learn from it's master" (to stay in the terms of the article mentioned above).
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It's probably make or break for them in the console market, but I'd say there'd be money in them going 3rd party on home consoles and aiming their sights solely on handhelds, which admittedly are the mainstream gaming future anyway.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:45 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:

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Tekken Tag Tournament was by far the best Tekken imho. .
You're just saying this because you never touched Tekken 3 right?
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MS is not leaving the game, let's be honest here, it's Bill Gates' personal program. And aside from that they got a pretty solid basis to make some money here (live subscriptions, live arcade, content downloads etc. aside from the regular 'tax' on games), and unlike Nintendo they don't have that much money to gain from going 3rd party.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:51 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
I think the stakes so high, one of the big three might get kicked out of the game this generation. And the way things are looking, to be honest, MS has the best papers to drop out of the game. Nintendo is calling out to all it's fanboys (which are 60-70% of the grown-ups today who had a console in their youth) with the Rev, by adding full backwards compatibilty.
Sony has the biggest marketshare at the moment, even if you put X360 and Xbox together. And with the Sony Online Gaming Service (aka Live-killer) underway according to rumors, plus the big exclusive game-listing of PS1, 2 and that continues on 3, Sony has taking a serious blow by Xbox, a nice high-kick by X360, but it is about to "show the grasshopper that it has much to learn from it's master" (to stay in the terms of the article mentioned above).
I had a funny feeling about nintendo too, their execs were unbelievebly confident.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:53 schreef no-way het volgende:

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I had a funny feeling about nintendo too, their execs were unbelievebly confident.
Probably because they've got a potential market leader in the East. The West I'm not too sure of, when I look at the UK sales charts I don't see a market that's favourable to Nintendo anymore.
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I think a lot of ppl will by the Rev solely because of the old Nintendo-games you can play. I know I will.
I don't want to play Zelda by waving my hand in the air.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:52 schreef Retuobak het volgende:
It's probably make or break for them in the console market, but I'd say there'd be money in them going 3rd party on home consoles and aiming their sights solely on handhelds, which admittedly are the mainstream gaming future anyway.
3rd party would be a gold mine for them, and they know it , they have class titles coming out of there yazoo. Which proves again what sells a system.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:55 schreef no-way het volgende:

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3rd party would be a gold mine for them, and they know it , they have class titles coming out of there yazoo. Which proves again what sells a system.
Exactly, and it's not like the controller tech is incompatible with other consoles. They could just market it to those platforms too. And I'm willing to bet Sony would be willing to pay a lot of money for a few of Miyamoto's games on their platform.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:51 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
MS has the best papers to drop out of the game.
Sorry, but this is complete and utter bullshit. .
Besides the fact that MS has more money than Sony and Nintendo combined, Bill Gates already said that even if the X360 is a huge failure, the'll still release a new console.
And the X360 is doing really good (besides Japan). And the stock problems will be solved in a few weeks. If games like PES 6 will be released in Europe before the PS3 is out, the'll do even better.
I think Nintendo is the most likely to lose the next round (just like they lost the current round)
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:54 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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Probably because they've got a potential market leader in the East. The West I'm not too sure of, when I look at the UK sales charts I don't see a market that's favourable to Nintendo anymore.
Not potential, in Japan Nintendo and Sony, hardly anyone's heard of an xbox. I was in Nagano on the day of the launch ( 360). You could walk into a store and buy 10 systems if you wanted too.
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:53 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:

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You're just saying this because you never touched Tekken 3 right?
I have all Tekken games here. .
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:56 schreef Retuobak het volgende:

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Exactly, and it's not like the controller tech is incompatible with other consoles. They could just market it to those platforms too. And I'm willing to bet Sony would be willing to pay a lot of money for a few of Miyamoto's games on their platform.
I know Sony has enquired about Zelda( thats some serious inside stuff)...uhhmmm the answer was no.
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And NO FRIGGIN WAY that Sony's network thingy is goint to be a LIVE killer.
Impossible. .
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Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:58 schreef no-way het volgende:

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Not potential, in Japan Nintendo and Sony, hardly anyone's heard of an xbox. I was in Nagano on the day of the launch ( 360). You could walk into a store and buy 10 systems if you wanted too.
Was talking about the Revolution, the way people are going crazy over all these gimmick games in Japan is insane. Fair bet the Revolution will do really well there.
  woensdag 15 februari 2006 @ 00:01:27 #299
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Op woensdag 15 februari 2006 00:00 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:
And NO FRIGGIN WAY that Sony's network thingy is goint to be a LIVE killer.
Impossible. .
I doubt it too.
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Op woensdag 15 februari 2006 00:00 schreef no-way het volgende:

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I know Sony has enquired about Zelda( thats some serious inside stuff)...uhhmmm the answer was no.
I wouldn't be suprised if either Sony or MS will buy Nintendo eventually.
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