I don't believe the Cell to have the large impact on graphics most people say it will have, Sony rushed over to nVidia in the last minute for a reason. Conservative as I am, the main factors that influence graphic performance I believe to be the GPU itself obviously, memory bandwith (and capacity) and I/O bandwith.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:26 schreef no-way het volgende:
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ah ah you do know something, yes he Gpu of the 360 is awesome, but the cell is still in its infantcy as to what it can do in a graphical powerhouse.
thats why you're gonna see some mindblowing stuff and some games you can compare with the xbox( the old one)quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:27 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
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if programmers can work with the Unreal Engine (and from what I've heard, it's a breeze to work with), they should have little trouble unlocking the potentials of the PS3. Only high skilled programmers will have access to it's full power however, I think.
quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:27 schreef SToRM81 het volgende:
Sinds wanneer zijn de specs van de RSX bekend dan?![]()
Al vrij lang.quote:or "Reality Synthesizer" design co-developed by NVIDIA and Sony:
* Clocked at 550 MHz
* 1.8 TFLOPS (trillion floating point operations per second)
* Full high definition output (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
* Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
* 136 shader operations per clock
* 74.8 billion shader operations per second (100 billion with CPU)
* 33 billion dot products per second (51 billion dot products with CPU)
* 128-bit pixel precision offers rendering of scenes with high dynamic range imaging
NVidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang stated during Sony's pre-show press conference at E3 2005 that the RSX will be more powerful than two GeForce 6800 Ultra video cards combined.
the cell 's abilities to share tasks is still being worked on but that's the uncertainty factor in the equation.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:29 schreef Retuobak het volgende:
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I don't believe the Cell to have the large impact on graphics most people say it will have, Sony rushed over to nVidia in the last minute for a reason. Conservative as I am, the main factors that influence graphic performance I believe to be the GPU itself obviously, memory bandwith (and capacity) and I/O bandwith.
De RSX is een G71, een G70 (7800GT(X)) die een die-shrink heeft gekregen naar 90nm en is aangepast om direct te kunnen communiceren met de PS3. Verder is hij geclockt op 550mhz. Een procentje of 10 slomer dan de 7800GTX 512MB dus overall.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:27 schreef SToRM81 het volgende:
Sinds wanneer zijn de specs van de RSX bekend dan?![]()
Gears of War (X360) is running off the Unreal Engine 3.0. I think it's far better then the old Xbox, graphically.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:29 schreef no-way het volgende:
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thats why you're gonna see some mindblowing stuff and some games you can compare with the xbox( the old one)
Ik denk dat ie bedoelt dat er een hoop "mindblowing" games komen en ook wat games die grafisch gezien gelijk zijn aan de XBOX 1. (gemaakt door de wat mindere devers)quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:32 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
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Gears of War (X360) is running off the Unreal Engine 3.0. I think it's far better then the old Xbox, graphically.
It looks nice sure, but I'm so done with all these extremely dark monstershooters. Developers need to think of an original setting. Far Cry was a nice change, I'd like to see more settings that differ from the going standard (which is dark hallways and half-destroyed laboratories)quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:32 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
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Gears of War (X360) is running off the Unreal Engine 3.0. I think it's far better then the old Xbox, graphically.
What i mean to say is don't expect every game on the ps3 to be earth shattering because it wont, programmers will be out to get a quick buck and the consumer will loose. That's just a fact of every new systemquote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:32 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
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Gears of War (X360) is running off the Unreal Engine 3.0. I think it's far better then the old Xbox, graphically.
yepquote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:33 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:
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Ik denk dat ie bedoelt dat er een hoop "mindblowing" games komen en ook wat games die grafisch gezien gelijk zijn aan de XBOX 1. (gemaakt door de wat mindere devers)
Yeah, but not every game profits as much from better graphcis anyway. F.E.A.R. I wouldn't wanna play with shitty graphics. But I got no problem playing say a GTA game that looks less than stellar.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:34 schreef no-way het volgende:
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What i mean to say is don't expect every game on the ps3 to be earth shattering because it wont, programmers will be out to get a quick buck and the consumer will loose. That's just a fact of every new system
Dark is a clever way to hide flaws in graphical engines , by this i mean things you wont even notice. Far cry was a bold game.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:33 schreef Retuobak het volgende:
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It looks nice sure, but I'm so done with all these extremely dark monstershooters. Developers need to think of an original setting. Far Cry was a nice change, I'd like to see more settings that differ from the going standard (which is dark hallways and half-destroyed laboratories)
Hey what ever floats your boat, graphics are by no means the measuring stick of a good game.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:36 schreef Retuobak het volgende:
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Yeah, but not every game profits as much from better graphcis anyway. F.E.A.R. I wouldn't wanna play with shitty graphics. But I got no problem playing say a GTA game that looks less than stellar.
haha..... you will like the ps3quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:37 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
hey, if games are going to look this good on the PS3 I'm happy, as long as the gameplay is solid. If I want fancy graphics, I'll buy a damn painting.
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We have a winner!!!quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:37 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
as long as the gameplay is solid.
Hmmm...dat wist ik niet. Bedankt voor de infoquote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:31 schreef Retuobak het volgende:
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De RSX is een G71, een G70 (7800GT(X)) die een die-shrink heeft gekregen naar 90nm en is aangepast om direct te kunnen communiceren met de PS3. Verder is hij geclockt op 550mhz. Een procentje of 10 slomer dan de 7800GTX 512MB dus overall.
I think every gamer with common sense will.quote:
If they keep the quality up as high as they did the previous 2 gens I definitely agree with you on this.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:41 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:
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I think every gamer with common sense will.
Any chance you get to bash 'em huh?quote:Except some Nintendoids, but we're talking real gamers here..
As long as they don't up Devil May Cry 4 like they did 2, or Tekken 6 like Tekken Tag Tournament. Or.....well you get the picture. I'm waiting for gameplay here man.quote:
I'd say the stakes are higher than they've ever been and MS and Nintendo are just as intent on not fucking up.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:43 schreef no-way het volgende:
The potential is there with the ps3 and from what i've heard in a few meetings , Sony don't wanna drop the ball with this one
we met some Nintendo developers in japan and they were also pretty enthusiastic about their new system,but I know nothing about that.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:42 schreef Retuobak het volgende:
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If they keep the quality up as high as they did the previous 2 gens I definitely agree with you on this.
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Any chance you get to bash 'em huh?
Tekken Tag Tournament was by far the best Tekken imho.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:43 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
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As long as they don't up Devil May Cry 4 like they did 2, or Tekken 6 like Tekken Tag Tournament. Or.....well you get the picture. I'm waiting for gameplay here man.
They heard lots of negativity over Tekken...gamepley and so on, so we'll just have to see.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:43 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
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As long as they don't up Devil May Cry 4 like they did 2, or Tekken 6 like Tekken Tag Tournament. Or.....well you get the picture. I'm waiting for gameplay here man.
Nintendo is pretty much unhyping (if there is such a word) me every day. Not releasing info, no game announcements, no ingame shots, no definite hardware info, no release date, no price, no list of features. They think silence hypes people, it did for a month or 2, then it just got plain annoying.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:45 schreef no-way het volgende:
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we met some Nintendo developers in japan and they were also pretty enthusiastic about their new system,but I know nothing about that.
To be honest, I don't like the concept of the controller.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:45 schreef no-way het volgende:
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we met some Nintendo developers in japan and they were also pretty enthusiastic about their new system,but I know nothing about that.
I don't like the fact that to actually use the Z-axis (and thus make it more than just an airmouse, technology that's been around for ages) you're going to have to get into a position that'll force you to stop playing after half an hour tops due to straining issues.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:47 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:
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To be honest, I don't like the concept of the controller..
Call me old fashioned, but for me console gaming is done with a regular gamepad.
Thats just the thing they were raving about , maybe they know something we don't, I was told that this is make or brake for them( if thats true i'm not sure)quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:47 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:
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To be honest, I don't like the concept of the controller..
Call me old fashioned, but for me console gaming is done with a regular gamepad.
You're just saying this because you never touched Tekken 3 right?quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:45 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:
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Tekken Tag Tournament was by far the best Tekken imho..
I had a funny feeling about nintendo too, their execs were unbelievebly confident.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:51 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
I think the stakes so high, one of the big three might get kicked out of the game this generation. And the way things are looking, to be honest, MS has the best papers to drop out of the game. Nintendo is calling out to all it's fanboys (which are 60-70% of the grown-ups today who had a console in their youth) with the Rev, by adding full backwards compatibilty.
Sony has the biggest marketshare at the moment, even if you put X360 and Xbox together. And with the Sony Online Gaming Service (aka Live-killer) underway according to rumors, plus the big exclusive game-listing of PS1, 2 and that continues on 3, Sony has taking a serious blow by Xbox, a nice high-kick by X360, but it is about to "show the grasshopper that it has much to learn from it's master" (to stay in the terms of the article mentioned above).
Probably because they've got a potential market leader in the East. The West I'm not too sure of, when I look at the UK sales charts I don't see a market that's favourable to Nintendo anymore.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:53 schreef no-way het volgende:
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I had a funny feeling about nintendo too, their execs were unbelievebly confident.
3rd party would be a gold mine for them, and they know it , they have class titles coming out of there yazoo. Which proves again what sells a system.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:52 schreef Retuobak het volgende:
It's probably make or break for them in the console market, but I'd say there'd be money in them going 3rd party on home consoles and aiming their sights solely on handhelds, which admittedly are the mainstream gaming future anyway.
Exactly, and it's not like the controller tech is incompatible with other consoles. They could just market it to those platforms too. And I'm willing to bet Sony would be willing to pay a lot of money for a few of Miyamoto's games on their platform.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:55 schreef no-way het volgende:
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3rd party would be a gold mine for them, and they know it , they have class titles coming out of there yazoo. Which proves again what sells a system.
Sorry, but this is complete and utter bullshit.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:51 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
MS has the best papers to drop out of the game.
Not potential, in Japan Nintendo and Sony, hardly anyone's heard of an xbox. I was in Nagano on the day of the launch ( 360). You could walk into a store and buy 10 systems if you wanted too.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:54 schreef Retuobak het volgende:
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Probably because they've got a potential market leader in the East. The West I'm not too sure of, when I look at the UK sales charts I don't see a market that's favourable to Nintendo anymore.
I have all Tekken games here.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:53 schreef SocialDisorder het volgende:
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You're just saying this because you never touched Tekken 3 right?
I know Sony has enquired about Zelda( thats some serious inside stuff)...uhhmmm the answer was no.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:56 schreef Retuobak het volgende:
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Exactly, and it's not like the controller tech is incompatible with other consoles. They could just market it to those platforms too. And I'm willing to bet Sony would be willing to pay a lot of money for a few of Miyamoto's games on their platform.
Was talking about the Revolution, the way people are going crazy over all these gimmick games in Japan is insane. Fair bet the Revolution will do really well there.quote:Op dinsdag 14 februari 2006 23:58 schreef no-way het volgende:
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Not potential, in Japan Nintendo and Sony, hardly anyone's heard of an xbox. I was in Nagano on the day of the launch ( 360). You could walk into a store and buy 10 systems if you wanted too.
I doubt it too.quote:Op woensdag 15 februari 2006 00:00 schreef Dr.Daggla het volgende:
And NO FRIGGIN WAY that Sony's network thingy is goint to be a LIVE killer.
Impossible..
I wouldn't be suprised if either Sony or MS will buy Nintendo eventually.quote:Op woensdag 15 februari 2006 00:00 schreef no-way het volgende:
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I know Sony has enquired about Zelda( thats some serious inside stuff)...uhhmmm the answer was no.
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