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  woensdag 26 oktober 2005 @ 19:01:15 #181
111260 Charmian
a little joy
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quote:
Op woensdag 26 oktober 2005 19:00 schreef TheSilentEnigma het volgende:
Lena Horne!


TSE +1
The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. -- [b]Socrates [/b]
I know nothing, I come from Barcelona. -- [b]Manuel[/b]
  woensdag 26 oktober 2005 @ 19:20:50 #182
78707 TheSilentEnigma
Heldin, bazin, godin.
pi_31707423
Wie heeft deze brief na afloop van een concert in haar handen geduwd gekregen?
quote:
Dear ,
It`s time to choose whether the story of ends here or whether it will still continue an undetermined period of time. We`ve been working with this creation for 9 years and we are not ready to give up yet. is a way of life, something to live for, and we`re certain we can`t let it go.

Equally certain is the fact that we cannot go on with you and Marcelo any longer. During the last year something sad happened, which I`ve been going over in my head every single day, morning and night. Your attitude and behavior don`t go with anymore. There are characteristics I would never have believed to see in my old dear friend.
People who don`t talk with each other for a year do not belong in the same band.

We are involved in an industry where the business-side of things is a necessary evil and something to worry about all the time. We are also a band which has always done music from the heart, because of friendship and the music itself. The mental satisfaction should always be more important than money! is a band, it`s an emotion.
To you, unfortunately, business, money, and things that have nothing to do with those emotions have become much more important. You feel that you have sacrificed yourself and your musical career for , rather than thinking what it has given to you.
This attitude was clearly shown to me in the two things you said to me in an airplane in Toronto: ”I don`t need anymore.” and ”Remember, , that I could leave this band at any time, giving you only one day`s warning in advance”.
I can`t simply write any more songs for you to sing.

You have said yourself that you are merely a ”guest musician” in . Now that visit ends and we will continue with a new female vocalist.
We`re sure this is an equally big relief to you as it is for us. We have all been feeling bad long enough.

You told us that no matter what, the next album will be your last one. However, the rest of us want to continue as long as the fire burns. So there`s no sense in doing that next album with you, either.
The four of us have been going over this situation countless times and we have realized that this is the thing we want to do in life. It´s all we can do. In December 2004, in Germany, you said that you will never tour again for more than two weeks at a time. You also said that we can forget about U.S. and Australia because the fees and the sizes of venues are too small.

In interviews I`ve mentioned that if leaves, that would be the end of the band. I understand that people will think this way. is, however, a scenery of my soul and I`m not ready to let go because of one person. A person who wants to focus her creativity to somewhere else, a person whose values don`t match mine.

We were never bothered by the fact that you didn`t participate in writing/arranging songs, you never in 9 years came to rehearse the songs with us before going to the studio. Not the fact that while on tour you always wanted to fly, separately from us with your husband. Not the fact that you are an undisputable front image of the band.
We accepted and felt ok about everything except greed, underestimating the fans, and breaking promises. It was agreed by the five of us that would be the priority in everything that we do during 2004-2005. Still so many things were more important to you. The ultimate example being the already sold-out show in Oslo, which you wanted to cancel because you needed to rehearse for your solo concerts, meet frieds and go to the movies. Those were the words Marcelo used in an e-mail explaining the cancellation. This being just one example of so many. I couldn`t think of a worse way of being selfish and dismissing our fans.

is a way of life and a job with many obligations. To each other and to the fans. With you we can`t take care of those duties anymore.

Deep within we don`t know which one of you drove us to this point. Somehow Marcelo has changed you from the lovely girl you were into a diva, who doesn`t think or act the way she used to. You are too sure of your irreplaceableness and status.

It`s obvious that you blame your stress and misery on us four. And you think we don`t respect or listen to you. Belive us; We have always had the uppermost respect towards you as a wonderful vocalist and as a friend. And very often during the past couple of years the plans were made according to your decisions only. You were always the only one who wanted more money from the shows.
This ”compensation and more money from everything” –attitude is the fact that we are most disappointed of!

We wish that from now on you will listen to your heart instead of Marcelo. Cultural differences combined with greed, opportunism and love is a dangerous combination. Do not wither yourself.

This decision is not something we are especially proud of but you gave us no choice. The gap between us is too wide. And the decision is made by us four unanimously. We are beyond the point where things could be settled by talking.

All the best for your life and career,








Ps. This is an open letter for everybody.


  woensdag 26 oktober 2005 @ 19:22:29 #183
56690 DaisyDuke
In Coffee We Trust!
pi_31707468
Nightwish' Tarja
1,000,000 demons can't be wrong...
  woensdag 26 oktober 2005 @ 19:25:05 #184
78707 TheSilentEnigma
Heldin, bazin, godin.
pi_31707527
quote:
Op woensdag 26 oktober 2005 19:22 schreef DaisyDuke het volgende:
Nightwish' Tarja
Heb ik daar zoveel voor lopen typen?

Daisy Duke + 1
  woensdag 26 oktober 2005 @ 19:27:16 #185
111260 Charmian
a little joy
pi_31707565
TSE kijk eens op pagina 3 van dit topic
The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. -- [b]Socrates [/b]
I know nothing, I come from Barcelona. -- [b]Manuel[/b]
  woensdag 26 oktober 2005 @ 19:28:08 #186
56690 DaisyDuke
In Coffee We Trust!
pi_31707588
Wat was de naam van Dr.Hook's begeleidingsband?
1,000,000 demons can't be wrong...
pi_31707630
the medicine show.
Semi0n is dead, long live Stress Techniques. New project: LLB - JG
http://http://llbinc.bandcamp.com/
  woensdag 26 oktober 2005 @ 19:30:40 #188
78707 TheSilentEnigma
Heldin, bazin, godin.
pi_31707639
quote:
Op woensdag 26 oktober 2005 19:27 schreef Charmian het volgende:
TSE kijk eens op pagina 3 van dit topic
Ik doe mijn haarkleur wel eer aan geloof ik....
  woensdag 26 oktober 2005 @ 19:30:47 #189
56690 DaisyDuke
In Coffee We Trust!
pi_31707640
quote:
Op woensdag 26 oktober 2005 19:30 schreef bartrid het volgende:
the medicine show.


bartrid+1
1,000,000 demons can't be wrong...
pi_31707804
wie is dit?
Semi0n is dead, long live Stress Techniques. New project: LLB - JG
http://http://llbinc.bandcamp.com/
  woensdag 26 oktober 2005 @ 19:51:24 #191
54096 Gambolputty
von Hautkopft of Ulm
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Op woensdag 26 oktober 2005 19:35 schreef bartrid het volgende:
wie is dit?
[afbeelding]
Tarja van Nightwish?
And you may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile.
pi_31708279
Sarah McLachlan?
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quote:
Op woensdag 26 oktober 2005 19:53 schreef wyccie het volgende:
Sarah McLachlan?
niet Tarja, maar Sarah. wyccie +1
Semi0n is dead, long live Stress Techniques. New project: LLB - JG
http://http://llbinc.bandcamp.com/
pi_31708662
Oeps beetje laat gekeken.

Wie is dit dan???
  Moderator woensdag 26 oktober 2005 @ 22:51:15 #195
32436 crew  belsen
Young, gifted and black
pi_31709792
Eh, eh... Geen idee.
Geef angst en haat een stem
Ranja: "mijn bukgeit begrijpt mj niet. "
pi_31710456


Ik denk dat Berk 'm zo komt inkoppen
pi_31710493
Ik zou dat ook kunnen doen........, maar nee...dat doe ik niet
Vrienden: zij die je verleden kennen, in je toekomst geloven en je vandaag accepteren zoals je bent
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Op woensdag 26 oktober 2005 23:12 schreef dartfanaat het volgende:
Ik zou dat ook kunnen doen........, maar nee...dat doe ik niet
Ik heb zo'n lol om mezelf
  woensdag 26 oktober 2005 @ 23:14:14 #199
46794 Berkery
Fat bastard
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Op woensdag 26 oktober 2005 23:11 schreef wyccie het volgende:


Ik denk dat Berk 'm zo komt inkoppen
Naaah, ik ben zo weg. Geef maar een hint ofzo
No Dukes of Hazzard in the classroom
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quote:
The influence of his Kontra-Punkte may be seen in Igor Stravinsky's Movements for piano and orchestra.
Disparate musicians such as Can, The Beatles, Kraftwerk, Coil, Sonic Youth, Miles Davis, Frank Zappa, and Herbie Hancock cite as an influence.
It is also arguable that various movements in electronic music such as the development of techno or even hip hop (in the use of sampling) could not have happened without 's influence.
  woensdag 26 oktober 2005 @ 23:33:34 #201
13973 ranja
image means nothing
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Geen idee wat dit met Berkery heeft te maken, maar gokje op Stockhausen
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Op woensdag 26 oktober 2005 23:33 schreef ranja het volgende:
Geen idee wat dit met Berkery heeft te maken, maar gokje op Stockhausen
Berk plaatste ergens anders een plaatje en ik was zo stom om te vergeten dat ik die hier had geplaatst....dus toen heb ik mijn eigen plaatje geraden

ranja +1
  woensdag 26 oktober 2005 @ 23:39:35 #203
13973 ranja
image means nothing
  woensdag 26 oktober 2005 @ 23:42:31 #204
13973 ranja
image means nothing
pi_31711533
Weinig spectakel in de nieuwe top 40. Hele top 8 blijft staan.
Wie is de hoogste binnenkomer (op 30 maar liefst)... ?
pi_31711601
Kanye West?
Op zondag 10 december 2006 01:47 schreef -Angelus- het volgende:
Uitgezonderd van deelname aan dit topic zijn de volgende personen: Lord_Vetinari, Zyggie, Sack_Blabbath, arneaux en Mwanatabu.
  woensdag 26 oktober 2005 @ 23:54:30 #206
46794 Berkery
Fat bastard
pi_31711948
quote:
Op woensdag 26 oktober 2005 23:33 schreef ranja het volgende:
Geen idee wat dit met Berkery heeft te maken, maar gokje op Stockhausen
Raad je Plaatje # 420 Ondanks de traagheid toch gezellig!
No Dukes of Hazzard in the classroom
  woensdag 26 oktober 2005 @ 23:54:32 #207
13973 ranja
image means nothing
pi_31711949
die komt wel binnen, maar op 34.
pi_31712034
ChipZ
pi_31712087
U2 dan?
Op zondag 10 december 2006 01:47 schreef -Angelus- het volgende:
Uitgezonderd van deelname aan dit topic zijn de volgende personen: Lord_Vetinari, Zyggie, Sack_Blabbath, arneaux en Mwanatabu.
  woensdag 26 oktober 2005 @ 23:59:26 #210
13973 ranja
image means nothing
pi_31712091
Kan geen Chipz vinden, volgens hebben die nog geen nieuwe single
U2 staat er al 4 weken in.
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