[Centraal] Conflict Palestina & Israel #55

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Op woensdag 26 oktober 2005 22:49 schreef Roi het volgende:
En jaar hoor weer een aanslag.

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De Islamitische Jihad zei dat de aanslag een vergelding was voor de moord op Luay Saadi, de leider van de Islamitische Jihad op de Westoever. Saadi werd maandag door het Israëlische leger geliquideerd.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/1130389390305.html

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Aksa Brigades far from ready to disarm

In a grove of date palms in the center of this Gaza Strip city, Palestinian gunmen contemplate their future.

It is 4 p.m., when thirst and the ache for a cigarette following the day's Ramadan fast are at their height. A cellphone rings and bears the news that dozens have been wounded in a suicide bombing in Hadera. The six members of the Fatah-linked Aksa Martyrs Brigades register the information and move on, talking about their own "resistance" against Israel.

The world may have thought otherwise, but in the warrens of Gaza's refugee camps the war against Israel is very much still on. The Palestinian Authority announced on Sunday that it planned to disarm the Brigades and absorb its members into the PA security forces, but these gunmen seem anything but ready to disarm.

The IDF and Gaza-based terrorist groups had exchanged frequent fire since Israel quit the Gaza Strip six weeks ago. But over the past week, the groups amplified their rallying cries against Israel and even the Palestinian Authority. Hamas publicly reiterated its dreams of creating an Islamic state between the Jordan and the sea, and Islamic Jihad pressed forward with terrorist attacks and vowed more.

The Aksa Martyrs Brigades would not be outdone. In an interview in an orchard, Hassan Abu Ali, the group's commander here, claimed that the brigades have developed a new rocket, the Aksa-3. These rockets have a maximum range of 17 km., he tells The Jerusalem Post.



The IDF would not comment directly, but outgoing OC Southern Command Maj.-Gen. Dan Harel was quoted on Thursday saying that "Ashkelon [nine km. from the northernmost edge of Gaza] is already within range... It is now not a question of range, but of deterrence."

What had started with stones, then moved on to guns and suicide bombers, has graduated to rockets, the wave of the future, claimed Abu Ali. He said his group had recently tested an unarmed prototype of the Aksa-3 along the Gaza beach.

Often, launching the missiles is more costly than dispatching suicide bombers, Abu Ali said. More of his men have been hospitalized unleashing the erratic rockets than Israelis on the receiving end. And dozens more have been killed in Israeli reprisals.

Palestinian mortarmen have yet to target Ashkelon, and given the likely Israeli response, might never do so. During the interview, an F-16 swooped low, breaking the sound barrier with a jarring boom. The militiamen shifted uneasily in their plastic chairs.

They would happily retire, said the group's Gaza spokesman, who identified himself as Abu Mustafa, once Israel leaves all of the West Bank and Jerusalem. "Retaliation will come from Gaza if the West Bank is attacked," he said. "[Palestine] is one homeland."

Echoing the complaints of many Palestinians, Abu Mustafa dubbed Israel's much-lauded withdrawal a "trick" that has turned Gaza into "a large prison, with no way in or out."

Palestinian public opinion supports the retirement of all gunmen not under PA command. A poll conducted by the Palestinian Center for Public Opinion showed that more than 80 percent opposed the blatant use of force by "militants," what the poll called security chaos and "the multi-authority society."

PCPO director Dr. Nabil Kukali observed that "all these groups want to get across their mujahideen bona fides" before the January 25 Palestinian Legislative Council elections. While the terrorist groups grandstand, the Palestinian street remains silent. Kukali said that to "protect themselves they haven't demanded that this activity cease."

A brainchild of jailed Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti and others, the Aksa Martyrs Brigades were Fatah's answer to Hamas and Islamic Jihad. But Israel's incursions into the West Bank and Gaza knocked out the group's infrastructure, often leaving smaller factions not only to fend for themselves but, more dangerously, make their own decisions.

Today, they might pose the biggest challenge to PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas. If Abbas cannot control his party's own militia, Gazans ask, how can he control anything else?

Explaining his group's periodic mutinies against the PA, Abu Ali noted that "conventional sit-ins and flag waving no longer work, so the [fighters] have chosen other ways" to catch their leader's attention. In Gaza, Khan Yunis specifically, disgruntled gunmen are in the habit of taking Western hostages when they want to remind the PA that they remain jobless.

Through various types of protest, some 40 percent of Fatah gunmen secured jobs with the PA, said Abu Mustafa proudly. Pollster Kukali agreed that the single most important issue right now for all Palestinians is not fighting Israel "but finding work."

Everyone in Gaza seems to condemn the kidnappings, but then explain that the men need jobs.

Col. Ali Rahajan of the PA Preventive Security Service, currently tasked with security in the former settlements, said that "everything is being done to create a sense of security," and that the "kidnappings will not happen again."

But winning the loyalty of the militiamen may not be as easy as doling out the NIS 1,600 monthly salary allotted to PA policemen.

"If Abu Mazen [Abbas] ensures our involvement in the PA, and ensures our rights, then we are with Abu Mazen," Abu Mustafa said. Those rights, he noted almost as a caveat, are the right to carry arms and fight Israel when they see fit.

Sensitive to the public's fatigue and the effects of the IDF's constant pressure, the brigades have issued a leaflet explaining their reasons for firing rockets. According to Abu Ali, the leaflet explains the necessity "of terrorizing an entire city like Sderot." Otherwise, the people "might misunderstand us," he said.

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Op vrijdag 28 oktober 2005 13:06 schreef D1 het volgende:
Al 55 topics volgeluld over een conflict waar beide partijen fout zitten en waar beide volken de enige slachtoffers van zijn

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Op zaterdag 29 oktober 2005 22:43 schreef Jojo_ut_Grun het volgende:

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Nou volgens mij zijn niet alleen die volkeren slachtoffer.. tenminste als je dit conflict ziet als bron voor diverse terrorisme

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Op zaterdag 29 oktober 2005 22:57 schreef D1 het volgende:

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Ik vind het heel gevaarlijk om een direct verband te leggen tussen de Israel/Palestina situatie en wereldwijd terrorisme. Als je dat doet ga je in mijn ogen mee in de rethoriek van de terroristen en dat is in mijn ogen onacceptabel. Geen situatie, hoe slecht dan ook, kan reden of excuus zijn voor het verwoesten van onschuldige levens. Islamitisch terrorisme gaat niet over geloof noch over Palestijnen. Islamitisch terrorisme is puur op macht gericht en gebruikt de religie en de conflicten om voetsoldaten te recruteren voor hun smerige oorlog en om legimiteit te winnen in de Arabische landen.

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Op zondag 30 oktober 2005 00:01 schreef Jojo_ut_Grun het volgende:

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Het feit blijft dat de terroristen zelf dit verband leggen, terecht of niet.

Ik zelf zie ook wel een verband omdat de onderdrukking van het Palestijnse volk veel kwaad bloed heeft gezet bij veel mensen.

Daarbij meet het Westen met twee maten: israel mag atoomwapens hebben ( iran niet) , Israel houd zich niet aan de vn reloluties.. en komt er mee weg.

Kan me voorstellen dat je je dan als Islamiet niet helemaal serieus genomen voelt..

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Op zondag 16 oktober 2005 14:15 schreef Meki het volgende:

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Als Israel geen land steelt en geen baby´s doodschoot en geen huizen kapot maken dan had Palestina allang welvaart

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JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Palestinian gunmen shot dead an Israeli soldier on a raid in the occupied West Bank on Wednesday.

"The soldier was killed after an Islamic Jihad operative surrendered without resistance in the northern West Bank," an Israeli army spokesman said about the raid on suspected militant hideouts near the Palestinian city of Jenin.

The spokesman said the soldier was hit by gunfire from militants as the Israeli force was leaving the area.

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Op woensdag 2 november 2005 10:30 schreef Roi het volgende:
Palestinian gunmen kill Israeli soldier on raid

JERUSALEM, Nov 2 (Reuters) - Palestinian gunmen shot dead an Israeli soldier on a raid in the occupied West Bank on Wednesday

"The soldier was killed after an Islamic Jihad operative surrendered without resistance in the northern West Bank," an Israeli army spokesman said about the raid on suspected militant hideouts near the Palestinian city of Jenin.

The spokesman said the soldier was hit by gunfire from militants as the Israeli force was leaving the area.

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JERUSALEM, Nov 2 (Reuters) - Palestinian gunmen shot dead an Israeli soldier on a raid in the occupied West Bank on Wednesday, a day after an Israeli airstrike killed two militant commanders in the Gaza Strip.

More than a week of bloodshed, the worst flareup since a truce was declared in February, has hit hopes that Israel's Gaza pullout in September would revive peacemaking.

The soldier's death, which followed militant vows for revenge after Tuesday's Gaza airstrike,was Israel's first military fatality in action since Prime Minister Ariel Sharon engineered the withdrawal after 38 years of occupation.

"The soldier was killed after an Islamic Jihad operative surrendered without resistance in the northern West Bank," an Israeli army spokesman said about the raid on suspected militant hideouts near the Palestinian city of Jenin.

The spokesman said the soldier was hit by gunfire from militants as the Israeli force was leaving the area.

Israel regularly carries out arrests in the West Bank and has killed several militants during the operations.

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Op zondag 30 oktober 2005 09:12 schreef Frances het volgende:

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Wat een kul, Meki. De palestijnen zijn beroofd door hun vorige leider uit eigen gading; yasser arafat. Als hij het geld niet van z,n eigen mensen gestolen had hadden ze het nu een stuk beter gehad.

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Border closures shut door on Gaza revival hopes
02 Nov 2005 05:00:17 GMT
By Jui Chakravorty

GAZA, Nov 2 (Reuters) - Palestinian construction magnate Mahmoud el-Farah wishes he could buy his cement direct from Turkey now that Israeli troops have left the Gaza Strip.

However, all imports and exports still have to go through Israel because of its concern that militants could smuggle in weapons -- a cause of continued frustration for Gaza businesses and a threat to the economic gains from the Israeli withdrawal.

"Sometimes we have items sitting at the Israeli port for six months," Farah complained, describing the delays to which he and other Gaza businessmen have become resigned.

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The immediate worry for Gaza is the coming harvest.

It will be augmented this year by produce from greenhouses abandoned by evacuated Jewish settlers, who built a thriving business in Gaza supplying fruit and vegetables to Europe.

Foreign donors bought the greenhouses from the settlers and they were quickly replanted by the Palestinians with tomatoes and peppers, set to ripen over the coming weeks.

The greenhouses alone have created an extra 3,000 jobs and will provide estimated additional annual revenue of $50 million. But to reap the rewards, about 150 trucks a day must bring the crops out of Gaza.

Otherwise, the harvest is likely to go to waste.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L30682016.htm

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Op woensdag 2 november 2005 11:13 schreef IPdaily het volgende:

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Opvallend die kassen in Gaza, aangezien enkele eenzijdige pro-israel posters beweerden dat alle kassen vernietigd waren door woedende Palestijnen...

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Op woensdag 2 november 2005 11:22 schreef Roi het volgende:

Anders lees je dat bericht even

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Op maandag 7 november 2005 01:58 schreef Amalek het volgende:
Demons in the skies of the Gaza Strip
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Collectieve straf = oorlogsmisdaad

Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention forbids collective punishment and states that a person shall not be punished for an offense he or she has not personally committed.
Article 50 of the Hague Regulations states a comparable prohibition.

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Family of boy killed by IDF donates his organs for peace

By Amos Harel and Arnon Regular, Haaretz Correspondent

The family of Ahmed al-Khatib, a 12 year old fatally shot last week by Israeli troops who mistook his toy gun for a real rifle, have donated his organs at a Haifa hospital "for the sake of peace between peoples."

The boy died of his wounds on Saturday.
Dr. Tzvi Ben-Yishai, a spokesman for Rambam Medical Center in Haifa, where Khatib had been treated, said that the boy's parents decided to donate his organs "to bring hearts closer and bring peace closer."

The boy's uncle, Jamal Khatib, confirmed that the family had donated the organs.

The Thursday shooting incident occurred when soldiers entered the Jenin refugee camp as part of an ongoing operation to arrest Islamic Jihad operatives.
Shots were fired at the soldiers from the western part of the camp, and bullets hit one of their jeeps. According to Palestinian sources, Islamic Jihad and Fatah gunmen both participated in the exchange of fire, and teenagers threw rocks at the jeeps.

The soldiers thought they saw an armed man some 130 meters away, and one of the soldiers fired, hitting the suspected gunman in the head. A Palestinian ambulance picked up the wounded suspect, but when the soldiers approached the site, they found a plastic gun.

The IDF Spokesman's Office distributed photographs of the toy to show how real it looked.

Khatib was taken to the hospital in Ramallah, but when the seriousness of his condition became clear, the Palestinian Authority arranged to have him transferred to Israel.
Palestinian sources said Khatib was apparently not one of the boys who had been throwing rocks at the soldiers.

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Op maandag 7 november 2005 10:53 schreef Roi het volgende:

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Op maandag 7 november 2005 05:20 schreef Lyrebird het volgende:
Kan iemand mij trouwens uitleggen waarom er zwangere vrouwen en kinderen in de Gazastrook wonen? Het toekomstperspectief in de Gazastrook voor een kind lijkt me niet je van het. Er zijn Nederlanders die bewust geen kinderen nemen, omdat ze denken dat het kind geen goede toekomst wacht. Maar we hebben het hier over de GAZASTROOK! Dat is andere peperkoek.

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Op maandag 14 november 2005 19:13 schreef Finder_elf_towns het volgende:

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"De baarmoeder is een wapen vd Islam." -- Yasser Arafat.