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Heeft iemand van jullie een goeie site om de typhoons in de Pacific te volgen?
Heb deze site momenteel in gebruik, maar die is nogal summier. http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/wp200519.html
Het lijkt erop dat typhoon Longwang Taiwan vol zal raken. Volgens ik me goed herinner is dit niet de eerste typhoon die deze koers volgt.
Weet iemand hoeveel typhoons het juist zijn en in hoeverre is dit uitzonderlijk ?
Heeft iemand van jullie een goeie site om de typhoons in de Pacific te volgen?
Heb deze site momenteel in gebruik, maar die is nogal summier. http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/wp200519.html
Het lijkt erop dat typhoon Longwang Taiwan vol zal raken. Volgens ik me goed herinner is dit niet de eerste typhoon die deze koers volgt.
Weet iemand hoeveel typhoons het juist zijn en in hoeverre is dit uitzonderlijk ?
Wat sites met info en satelietbeelden van de Western Pacific..
http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/jtwc.html
http://www.solar.ifa.hawaii.edu/Tropical/
Op deze site kan je de stormen van de laatste zoveel jaar nakijken in de Western Pacific, met hun kracht en ook hun 'pad' dat ze gevolgd hebben. hopelijk heb je daar wat aan Francorex
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/
Op onderstaande site kan je de stormen bekijken uit 2005 alleen
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/w_pacific/2005/
http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/jtwc.html
http://www.solar.ifa.hawaii.edu/Tropical/
Op deze site kan je de stormen van de laatste zoveel jaar nakijken in de Western Pacific, met hun kracht en ook hun 'pad' dat ze gevolgd hebben. hopelijk heb je daar wat aan Francorex
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/
Op onderstaande site kan je de stormen bekijken uit 2005 alleen
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/w_pacific/2005/
Wow die is even krachtig geworden, moet je die windvelden eens zien
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Zo te lezen kan ie elk moment opgewaardeerd worden tot Cat 5 ja en gaat als Cat 4 aan land...quote:Op zaterdag 1 oktober 2005 17:15 schreef Hallulama het volgende:
Is dat dol, dwaze ding nog steeds of inmiddels CAT5?
en daar is Stan!
en daar is Stan!
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MIAMI, Florida (AP) -- Tropical Storm Stan made landfall in Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula early Sunday with 45 mph sustained winds, but forecasters predicted it would weaken to a tropical depression as it moves over the region.
A tropical storm warning was in effect for the eastern coast of the Yucatan from Chetumal north to Cabo Catoche, forecasters said.
At 5 a.m. EDT, the center of the storm was about 40 miles south of Tulum, Mexico, and about 75 miles south-southwest of Cozumel, the National Hurricane Center in Miami said.
Stan, the 18th named storm of the Atlantic hurricane season, was moving to the west-northwest near 6 mph.
Rainfall accumulations from 5 to 10 inches over the Yucatan and northern Belize were expected, forecasters said.
Forecasters predicted the storm could restrengthen to a tropical storm after moving over the Yucatan region and re-entering the warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico on Monday.
Meanwhile, tropical depression 19 remained no threat to land as it churned far out in the Atlantic.
At 5 a.m., the depression was about 715 miles west of the Cape Verde Islands and was moving toward the north-northwest near 8 mph. Maximum sustained winds were near 35 mph.
This is the fourth-busiest Atlantic hurricane season since record-keeping started in 1851. The record for tropical storms in one year is 21, set in 1933. The hurricane season ends November 30.
A tropical storm warning was in effect for the eastern coast of the Yucatan from Chetumal north to Cabo Catoche, forecasters said.
At 5 a.m. EDT, the center of the storm was about 40 miles south of Tulum, Mexico, and about 75 miles south-southwest of Cozumel, the National Hurricane Center in Miami said.
Stan, the 18th named storm of the Atlantic hurricane season, was moving to the west-northwest near 6 mph.
Rainfall accumulations from 5 to 10 inches over the Yucatan and northern Belize were expected, forecasters said.
Forecasters predicted the storm could restrengthen to a tropical storm after moving over the Yucatan region and re-entering the warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico on Monday.
Meanwhile, tropical depression 19 remained no threat to land as it churned far out in the Atlantic.
At 5 a.m., the depression was about 715 miles west of the Cape Verde Islands and was moving toward the north-northwest near 8 mph. Maximum sustained winds were near 35 mph.
This is the fourth-busiest Atlantic hurricane season since record-keeping started in 1851. The record for tropical storms in one year is 21, set in 1933. The hurricane season ends November 30.
We're running out of names...
Met Stan als 18e storm van het orkanenseizoen in de atlantic raken de wetenschappers een beetje verontrust. Er zijn immers maar 21 namen (Tammy, Vince en Wilma) voor de stormen van 2005. En dat terwijl we net begin oktober zitten en het orkanenseizoen officieel tot eind november loopt.
Mocht het zo zijn dat de stormen de 21 gaan halen dan gaat het National Hurricane Centre 'grieks' gebruiken en dus worden de stormen daarop Alpha,Beta etc
De letters Q, U, X, Y en Z worden nooit toegepast omdat er simpelweg niet genoeg namen voor zijn om die te hanteren in het rotatiesysteem.
Alleen in 1993 kwamen er welgeteld 21 stormen voor. Daarna of daarvoor hebben ze nooit verder hoeven te tellen/benamen.
Er zijn genoeg namen om een cyclus van zes jaren te halen zodat elk 7e jaar de namenlijst opnieuw wordt begonnen . Zware stormen die veel schade/doden op hun geweten hebben zullen altijd geschrapt worden uit de lijsten en daarvoor in de plaats worden nieuwe namen gebracht. Namen als Andrew en Katrina komen dus niet meer voor.
Met Stan als 18e storm van het orkanenseizoen in de atlantic raken de wetenschappers een beetje verontrust. Er zijn immers maar 21 namen (Tammy, Vince en Wilma) voor de stormen van 2005. En dat terwijl we net begin oktober zitten en het orkanenseizoen officieel tot eind november loopt.
Mocht het zo zijn dat de stormen de 21 gaan halen dan gaat het National Hurricane Centre 'grieks' gebruiken en dus worden de stormen daarop Alpha,Beta etc
De letters Q, U, X, Y en Z worden nooit toegepast omdat er simpelweg niet genoeg namen voor zijn om die te hanteren in het rotatiesysteem.
Alleen in 1993 kwamen er welgeteld 21 stormen voor. Daarna of daarvoor hebben ze nooit verder hoeven te tellen/benamen.
Er zijn genoeg namen om een cyclus van zes jaren te halen zodat elk 7e jaar de namenlijst opnieuw wordt begonnen . Zware stormen die veel schade/doden op hun geweten hebben zullen altijd geschrapt worden uit de lijsten en daarvoor in de plaats worden nieuwe namen gebracht. Namen als Andrew en Katrina komen dus niet meer voor.
Even terugkomend op Rita...
Ik las in Spanje over de bedreiging voor "Nederland", het plaatsje in Texas dus he , en dat de stijfkoppige nederlanders daar niet weg wilden voor een 'beetje natuurgeweld'.
Echter heb ik er nu niets meer over terug kunnen vinden. Was Rita te zwak voor aanzienlijke schade en heeft o.a. Nederland dat daar zonder kleerscheuren overleefd?
Ik las in Spanje over de bedreiging voor "Nederland", het plaatsje in Texas dus he , en dat de stijfkoppige nederlanders daar niet weg wilden voor een 'beetje natuurgeweld'.
, en dat de stijfkoppige nederlanders daar niet weg wilden voor een 'beetje natuurgeweld'. Echter heb ik er nu niets meer over terug kunnen vinden. Was Rita te zwak voor aanzienlijke schade en heeft o.a. Nederland dat daar zonder kleerscheuren overleefd?
Ik heb verder de berichten niet gevolgt, ik moet eerlijk zeggen dat ik Katrina meer in de gaten hield dan Rita..ook zijn er 2X meer berichten geweest over Katrina dan Rita..
Ik denk wel dat ze het overleefd hebben hoor
Ik denk wel dat ze het overleefd hebben hoor
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Hmm... Orkaan LongWang schijnt Taiwan wel geraakt te hebben, maar met veel minder geweld dan het aanvankelijk verwacht was. Zoals ik het bij REUTERS lees zou het 'slechts' een categorie 2 storm zijn geweest toen het aan land ging.
REUTERS
Typhoon Longwang struck Taiwan at about 06:00 GMT on 2 October. Data supplied by the US Navy and Air Force Joint Typhoon Warning Center suggest that the point of landfall was near 24.1 N, 119.7 E. Longwang brought 1-minute maximum sustained winds to the region of around 166 km/hr (103 mph). Wind gusts in the area may have been considerably higher.
According to the Saffir-Simpson damage scale the potential property damage and flooding from a storm of Longwang's strength (category 2) at landfall includes:
-Storm surge generally 1.8-2.4 metres (6-8 feet) above normal.
-Some roofing material, door, and window damage of buildings.
-Considerable damage to shrubbery and trees with some trees blown down.
-Considerable damage to mobile homes, poorly constructed signs, and piers.
-Coastal and low-lying escape routes flood 2-4 hours before arrival of the storm center.
-Small craft in unprotected anchorages break moorings.
REUTERS
Typhoon Longwang struck Taiwan at about 06:00 GMT on 2 October. Data supplied by the US Navy and Air Force Joint Typhoon Warning Center suggest that the point of landfall was near 24.1 N, 119.7 E. Longwang brought 1-minute maximum sustained winds to the region of around 166 km/hr (103 mph). Wind gusts in the area may have been considerably higher.
According to the Saffir-Simpson damage scale the potential property damage and flooding from a storm of Longwang's strength (category 2) at landfall includes:
-Storm surge generally 1.8-2.4 metres (6-8 feet) above normal.
-Some roofing material, door, and window damage of buildings.
-Considerable damage to shrubbery and trees with some trees blown down.
-Considerable damage to mobile homes, poorly constructed signs, and piers.
-Coastal and low-lying escape routes flood 2-4 hours before arrival of the storm center.
-Small craft in unprotected anchorages break moorings.
Ik schat zelf dat er 25 orkanen komen in 2005, dus nog 7 bij, waarvan 3 zware kunnen zijn.quote:Op zondag 2 oktober 2005 17:32 schreef Frutsel het volgende:
We're running out of names...
Met Stan als 18e storm van het orkanenseizoen in de atlantic raken de wetenschappers een beetje verontrust. Er zijn immers maar 21 namen (Tammy, Vince en Wilma) voor de stormen van 2005. En dat terwijl we net begin oktober zitten en het orkanenseizoen officieel tot eind november loopt.
Mocht het zo zijn dat de stormen de 21 gaan halen dan gaat het National Hurricane Centre 'grieks' gebruiken en dus worden de stormen daarop Alpha,Beta etc
De letters Q, U, X, Y en Z worden nooit toegepast omdat er simpelweg niet genoeg namen voor zijn om die te hanteren in het rotatiesysteem.
Alleen in 1993 kwamen er welgeteld 21 stormen voor. Daarna of daarvoor hebben ze nooit verder hoeven te tellen/benamen.
Er zijn genoeg namen om een cyclus van zes jaren te halen zodat elk 7e jaar de namenlijst opnieuw wordt begonnen . Zware stormen die veel schade/doden op hun geweten hebben zullen altijd geschrapt worden uit de lijsten en daarvoor in de plaats worden nieuwe namen gebracht. Namen als Andrew en Katrina komen dus niet meer voor.
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Het is idd allemaal mee gevallen gelukkigquote:Op zondag 2 oktober 2005 17:41 schreef Frutsel het volgende:
Hmm... Orkaan LongWang schijnt Taiwan wel geraakt te hebben, maar met veel minder geweld dan het aanvankelijk verwacht was. Zoals ik het bij REUTERS lees zou het 'slechts' een categorie 2 storm zijn geweest toen het aan land ging.
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REUTERS
Typhoon Longwang struck Taiwan at about 06:00 GMT on 2 October. Data supplied by the US Navy and Air Force Joint Typhoon Warning Center suggest that the point of landfall was near 24.1 N, 119.7 E. Longwang brought 1-minute maximum sustained winds to the region of around 166 km/hr (103 mph). Wind gusts in the area may have been considerably higher.
According to the Saffir-Simpson damage scale the potential property damage and flooding from a storm of Longwang's strength (category 2) at landfall includes:
-Storm surge generally 1.8-2.4 metres (6-8 feet) above normal.
-Some roofing material, door, and window damage of buildings.
-Considerable damage to shrubbery and trees with some trees blown down.
-Considerable damage to mobile homes, poorly constructed signs, and piers.
-Coastal and low-lying escape routes flood 2-4 hours before arrival of the storm center.
-Small craft in unprotected anchorages break moorings.
Maar een cat 4 is daar normaal hoor, alleen je hoort er maar weinig over omdat het geen invloed heeft op de wereld.
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Voorspelling: Busy October Forecasted
Longtime guru of hurricane forecasting said today that October is likely to be another busy month.
William Gray, a Colorado State University scientist who has been predicting seasonal hurricane activity for many years with remarkable accuracy, issue a statement today.
"We project that October will continue the trend of above-average activity that we have witnessed in the preceding four months of the hurricane season," Gray's team said
The forecasters expect three named tropical storms, two hurricanes, one major hurricaneduring October. The prediction covers the Atlantic Basin, including the Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico.
Compared to past full seasons, this year is the seventh busiest since 1950, and it does not end until Nov. 30.
This season had the busiest start ever, with 4 named storms by July 5. Warm sea surface temperatures fueled the monsters Katrina and Rita, and conditions remain ripe for more, other hurricane experts agree.
Gray and his colleagues base their forecasts on the warmth of the ocean, global wind patterns and several other factors. The scientists said today they expect the 2005 season will finish at near-record levels.
Longtime guru of hurricane forecasting said today that October is likely to be another busy month.
William Gray, a Colorado State University scientist who has been predicting seasonal hurricane activity for many years with remarkable accuracy, issue a statement today.
"We project that October will continue the trend of above-average activity that we have witnessed in the preceding four months of the hurricane season," Gray's team said
The forecasters expect three named tropical storms, two hurricanes, one major hurricaneduring October. The prediction covers the Atlantic Basin, including the Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico.
Compared to past full seasons, this year is the seventh busiest since 1950, and it does not end until Nov. 30.
This season had the busiest start ever, with 4 named storms by July 5. Warm sea surface temperatures fueled the monsters Katrina and Rita, and conditions remain ripe for more, other hurricane experts agree.
Gray and his colleagues base their forecasts on the warmth of the ocean, global wind patterns and several other factors. The scientists said today they expect the 2005 season will finish at near-record levels.
What would happen if a major hurricane struck New York City?
With another hurricane season officially underway and lots of activity expected, forecasters are armed with more data and more powerful computer models than ever before. There would be some warning.
Because of the population density, a successful evacuation of vulnerable low-lying areas in and around New York City and metropolitan New Jersey would actually have to start sooner than what is typically ordered in Florida and elsewhere, officials have determined based on studies by the Army Corps of Engineers.
But hurricanes move more quickly and become very difficult to predict when they head north of the Carolinas. In a likely scenario, experts say, there might only be hours of warning.
History reveals that New York and the Northeast have been hit hard before, and with little warning.
Scientists say the next major hurricane to strike the city is a question of when, not if.
HISTORY FORGOTTON
Late in the summer of 1938, a wave of energy moved off the coast of Africa. Winds were sucked into the atmospheric depression and curved by the Earth’s spin into a counterclockwise rotation.
The storm churned unnoticed across the open sea, gathering strength from warm tropical waters. On Friday, Sept. 16, a Brazilian freighter reported the storm.
Gordon Dunn and Grady Norton, U.S. Weather Bureau forecasters in Florida, issued a hurricane warning for Miami, expecting the storm to hit Tuesday. Miami residents stockpiled supplies, boarded windows, secured boats.
But on Monday evening, the storm turned north and sped up to 20 mph, a swift forward speed that scientists of the time knew little about. It followed a typical path of recurvature -- resembling a giant C -- around the Bermuda High, an area of high atmospheric pressure in the mid-Atlantic that pushes air outward from its center, bouncing hurricanes off its edges like bubbles.
Dunn and Norton lost track of the storm off Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, and assumed it would curve eastward. The national weather map for Wednesday, Sept. 21, showed no hurricane, only a storm moving out to sea.
But winds had increased to 140 mph inside the beast. It moved north and picked up more forward speed.
The Bermuda High had moved to 44 degrees North latitude -- from its normal September position of thirty to thirty-five degrees -- blocking the hurricane’s path and deflecting it northward. Abnormally warm water fed the storm as its forward speed increased to 60 mph! Waves tore up boardwalks in New Jersey.
No warnings were issued. It had been 117 years since the last great storm hit New York, on Sept. 23, 1821. History had been forgotten.
The 'fog bank'
By Wednesday afternoon, shingles were flying from roofs on Long Island. The sky grew dark. Trees were uprooted and telephone poles snapped like matchsticks. Three hours before high tide, residents reported a thick bank of gray fog, twenty-five to forty feet above the water, rolling in toward the south-facing coast.
Some residents fled to relative safety across the bridge. Many did not. Most of them died as the "fog bank" turned out to be a wall of water known as a storm surge.
Created partly by the vacuum of reduced atmospheric pressure and more so by the wind blowing over the water, the storm surge was highest in an area just east of the eye -- the right side of the storm when looked at from above. There, in the right-side eyewall, the counterclockwise winds combined with the storm’s forward speed to create gusts exceeding 200 mph.
The eye of the hurricane passed some 55 miles east of Manhattan, a near miss in meteorological terms. Had it been a few miles west of Manhattan, forensic hurricanologists agree it would have devastated the island.
Drowned at work
The storm marched north. In Rhode Island, residents joked about putting up storm shutters. Finally, at least a warning had been issued. But the ferocity of the hurricane was no match for any last-minute preparations that might have been made.
At the head of Narragansett Bay, 30 miles from the Atlantic, the city of Providence awaited a fate its inhabitants could not have imagined. As the hurricane barreled toward the city, it pushed a surge of water up the bay. As the channel narrowed and became more shallow, the storm surge had nowhere to go but up.
The mountain of water carried boats and houses into the capital, flooding the first floor of buildings in downtown, where workers were just preparing to go home. Having no idea what a storm surge was, many of them were trapped and drowned where they worked. The surge of water caused tides (and even non-tidal sections of rivers) to rise 30 feet and more above normal levels.
Later that night, the Great New England Hurricane reached Canada, weakened but still potent enough to cause damage.
Over a four-day period, the 1938 storm dropped an average of 11 inches of rain over a 10,000-square-mile area, according to the National Weather Service. Flooding inflicted major damage through Connecticut, Massachusetts, New York, and Vermont, causing more than $300 million in losses.
In all, 600 people died. Ten of those deaths were in New York City. Flooding knocked out electrical power in all areas above 59th Street in Manhattan and in all of the Bronx. A hundred large trees in Central Park were destroyed.
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1999: Floyd, weakened to a tropical storm, brought sustained 60 mph winds and dumped 10-15 inches of rain on upstate New Jersey and New York State.
2004: Frances: The remains of Hurricane Frances in September flooded city subways, stranding some passengers aboard trains that had to be stopped by flooded tracks
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With another hurricane season officially underway and lots of activity expected, forecasters are armed with more data and more powerful computer models than ever before. There would be some warning.
Because of the population density, a successful evacuation of vulnerable low-lying areas in and around New York City and metropolitan New Jersey would actually have to start sooner than what is typically ordered in Florida and elsewhere, officials have determined based on studies by the Army Corps of Engineers.
But hurricanes move more quickly and become very difficult to predict when they head north of the Carolinas. In a likely scenario, experts say, there might only be hours of warning.
History reveals that New York and the Northeast have been hit hard before, and with little warning.
Scientists say the next major hurricane to strike the city is a question of when, not if.
HISTORY FORGOTTON
Late in the summer of 1938, a wave of energy moved off the coast of Africa. Winds were sucked into the atmospheric depression and curved by the Earth’s spin into a counterclockwise rotation.
The storm churned unnoticed across the open sea, gathering strength from warm tropical waters. On Friday, Sept. 16, a Brazilian freighter reported the storm.
Gordon Dunn and Grady Norton, U.S. Weather Bureau forecasters in Florida, issued a hurricane warning for Miami, expecting the storm to hit Tuesday. Miami residents stockpiled supplies, boarded windows, secured boats.
But on Monday evening, the storm turned north and sped up to 20 mph, a swift forward speed that scientists of the time knew little about. It followed a typical path of recurvature -- resembling a giant C -- around the Bermuda High, an area of high atmospheric pressure in the mid-Atlantic that pushes air outward from its center, bouncing hurricanes off its edges like bubbles.
Dunn and Norton lost track of the storm off Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, and assumed it would curve eastward. The national weather map for Wednesday, Sept. 21, showed no hurricane, only a storm moving out to sea.
But winds had increased to 140 mph inside the beast. It moved north and picked up more forward speed.
The Bermuda High had moved to 44 degrees North latitude -- from its normal September position of thirty to thirty-five degrees -- blocking the hurricane’s path and deflecting it northward. Abnormally warm water fed the storm as its forward speed increased to 60 mph! Waves tore up boardwalks in New Jersey.
No warnings were issued. It had been 117 years since the last great storm hit New York, on Sept. 23, 1821. History had been forgotten.
The 'fog bank'
By Wednesday afternoon, shingles were flying from roofs on Long Island. The sky grew dark. Trees were uprooted and telephone poles snapped like matchsticks. Three hours before high tide, residents reported a thick bank of gray fog, twenty-five to forty feet above the water, rolling in toward the south-facing coast.
Some residents fled to relative safety across the bridge. Many did not. Most of them died as the "fog bank" turned out to be a wall of water known as a storm surge.
Created partly by the vacuum of reduced atmospheric pressure and more so by the wind blowing over the water, the storm surge was highest in an area just east of the eye -- the right side of the storm when looked at from above. There, in the right-side eyewall, the counterclockwise winds combined with the storm’s forward speed to create gusts exceeding 200 mph.
The eye of the hurricane passed some 55 miles east of Manhattan, a near miss in meteorological terms. Had it been a few miles west of Manhattan, forensic hurricanologists agree it would have devastated the island.
Drowned at work
The storm marched north. In Rhode Island, residents joked about putting up storm shutters. Finally, at least a warning had been issued. But the ferocity of the hurricane was no match for any last-minute preparations that might have been made.
At the head of Narragansett Bay, 30 miles from the Atlantic, the city of Providence awaited a fate its inhabitants could not have imagined. As the hurricane barreled toward the city, it pushed a surge of water up the bay. As the channel narrowed and became more shallow, the storm surge had nowhere to go but up.
The mountain of water carried boats and houses into the capital, flooding the first floor of buildings in downtown, where workers were just preparing to go home. Having no idea what a storm surge was, many of them were trapped and drowned where they worked. The surge of water caused tides (and even non-tidal sections of rivers) to rise 30 feet and more above normal levels.
Later that night, the Great New England Hurricane reached Canada, weakened but still potent enough to cause damage.
Over a four-day period, the 1938 storm dropped an average of 11 inches of rain over a 10,000-square-mile area, according to the National Weather Service. Flooding inflicted major damage through Connecticut, Massachusetts, New York, and Vermont, causing more than $300 million in losses.
In all, 600 people died. Ten of those deaths were in New York City. Flooding knocked out electrical power in all areas above 59th Street in Manhattan and in all of the Bronx. A hundred large trees in Central Park were destroyed.
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1999: Floyd, weakened to a tropical storm, brought sustained 60 mph winds and dumped 10-15 inches of rain on upstate New Jersey and New York State.
2004: Frances: The remains of Hurricane Frances in September flooded city subways, stranding some passengers aboard trains that had to be stopped by flooded tracks
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Er zijn meer grote steden die relatief weinig worden getroffen door orkanen, maar wel kwetsbaar zijn, zoals Washington D.C., Baltimore, Philadelphia, Atlantic City, New York City/Long Island (22miljoen inwoners), Providence en Boston.
Trekken orkanen eigenlijk wel eens naar San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco ed?
Trekken orkanen eigenlijk wel eens naar San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco ed?
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Vrij weinig volgens mijquote:Op dinsdag 4 oktober 2005 17:05 schreef highway101 het volgende:
Trekken orkanen eigenlijk wel eens naar San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco ed?
Die drie steden maken zich meer druk om de "Big Quake" en een "Tsunami" ...
Er zijn honderden doden gevallen door TS Stan (voorheen HURR Stan), die in het zuidelijk centraal Mexico (bij Veracruz) aan land kwam. Vooral veel doden in Guatemala en El Salvador, maar ook Honduras en Mexico zelf. De meeste doden kwamen om door hevige regen, modderstromen en overstromingen.
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zo zie je maar weer dat een kleinere storm veel grotere verwoestingen aanricht en meer doden op zijn geweten heeft in minder ontwikkelde gebieden als midden amerika..
Tropical Storm TAMMY pops up from Nowhere
Less than a day after popping up out of nowhere off the northeast coast of Florida, Tropical Storm Tammy moved onshore and weakened slightly but was still expected to dump up to 10 inches of rainfall over portions of southeastern Georgia and the eastern Carolinas, forecasters said.
As of 5 a.m. EDT Thursday, Tammy's winds had weakened to near 40 mph -- barely tropical-storm intensity -- and its center was about 130 miles west-southwest of Savannah, Georgia, the National Hurricane Center said. The storm made landfall between 7 and 8 p.m. Wednesday near Mayport, Florida. just north of Jacksonville, but rain bands continued coming ashore for hours afterward.
The storm was moving toward the northwest at near 14 mph, and was expected to continue that motion. The storm was expected to slow and its circulation was expected to dissipate during the next 24 hours. Forecasters said it will bring 3 to 5 inches of rain to the region, with isolated amounts of up to 10 inches.
Less than a day after popping up out of nowhere off the northeast coast of Florida, Tropical Storm Tammy moved onshore and weakened slightly but was still expected to dump up to 10 inches of rainfall over portions of southeastern Georgia and the eastern Carolinas, forecasters said.
As of 5 a.m. EDT Thursday, Tammy's winds had weakened to near 40 mph -- barely tropical-storm intensity -- and its center was about 130 miles west-southwest of Savannah, Georgia, the National Hurricane Center said. The storm made landfall between 7 and 8 p.m. Wednesday near Mayport, Florida. just north of Jacksonville, but rain bands continued coming ashore for hours afterward.
The storm was moving toward the northwest at near 14 mph, and was expected to continue that motion. The storm was expected to slow and its circulation was expected to dissipate during the next 24 hours. Forecasters said it will bring 3 to 5 inches of rain to the region, with isolated amounts of up to 10 inches.
restant van Tropische Depressie TAMMY zorgt voor zware regenval in New York e.o.
Sub-Tropical Depression Twenty-Two formed in the Atlantic this morning. Nothing amazing yet, but should become Tropical Storm Vince sometime today or tomorrow.
Sub-Tropical Depression Twenty-Two formed in the Atlantic this morning. Nothing amazing yet, but should become Tropical Storm Vince sometime today or tomorrow.
de regen van "Stan" heeft inmiddels aan 1400 mensen in guatemala het leven gekost.
De situatie daar lijkt ook met de dag te verergeren
De situatie daar lijkt ook met de dag te verergeren
Damn ben je lekker me dan
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Vince ontstaat:
Windsnelheden tot 85 km/uur met hogere windstoten met een duidelijk oog al zichtbaar!!
Vooral de locatie is erg ongewoon, namelijk halverwege de Canarische Eilanden en de Azoren, grofweg bij Madeira, oftewel relatief vlak bij ons:
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Windsnelheden tot 85 km/uur met hogere windstoten met een duidelijk oog al zichtbaar!!
Vooral de locatie is erg ongewoon, namelijk halverwege de Canarische Eilanden en de Azoren, grofweg bij Madeira, oftewel relatief vlak bij ons:
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22 is aan het oplossen, maar Vince is wel weer net ontstaan, en wel bij de Canarische eilanden. deze trekt in de richting van de golf van Biskaje, en is momenteel een tropical storm.quote:Sub-Tropical Depression Twenty-Two formed in the Atlantic this morning. Nothing amazing yet, but should become Tropical Storm Vince sometime today or tomorrow.
Op deze kaart is ook goed de zuidelijkheid van Amerika te zien. New York ligt pakweg ter hoogte van midden Spanje, wat vaak vergeten wordt, want op die breedtes komen in Amerika nog strenge winters voor.
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Ach, laat Vince maar ons kant op komen
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Sterker nog, Vince is nu officieel een orkaan van cat 1. Windsnelheden tot 120 km/uur en windstoten tot 145 km/uur......
Zie de nieuwsberichten al voor me:
"Hurricane floods Portugal and Spain"
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"Hurricane floods Portugal and Spain"
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... and extinguishes fires in the process."quote:Op maandag 10 oktober 2005 09:37 schreef meranto het volgende:
Sterker nog, Vince is nu officieel een orkaan van cat 1. Windsnelheden tot 120 km/uur en windstoten tot 145 km/uur......
Zie de nieuwsberichten al voor me:
"Hurricane floods Portugal and Spain...
Hij is al wel weer in kracht afgenomen.quote:Op maandag 10 oktober 2005 18:31 schreef Black_Tulip het volgende:
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... and extinguishes fires in the process."
http://www.solar.ifa.hawaii.edu/Tropical/Data/VINCE-05.html
Kein gewalt! Wir sind das volk!
Steps taken forwards but sleepwalking back again.
''And the Germans kill the Jews, And the Jews kill the Arabs, And the Arabs kill the hostages
And that is the news.''
Steps taken forwards but sleepwalking back again.
''And the Germans kill the Jews, And the Jews kill the Arabs, And the Arabs kill the hostages
And that is the news.''
zeer leerrijk artikel.quote:Op maandag 10 oktober 2005 18:12 schreef SpeedyGJ het volgende:
Vrij Uniek!
Lees dit maar eens:
Orkanen in europa!
Leuk om weten dat de watertemperatuur van de Middelandse zee 27 -30 ° kan bedragen.(orkanen in Europa niet mogelijk! hoezo?)
Bedankt SpeedyGJ.
Spanje en Portugal kunnen wel een likje water gebruiken maar of ze daar nu zitten wachten op een orkaan
Stel je voor...
quote:THE HISTORICAL RECORD SHOWS NO TROPICAL CYCLONE EVER MAKING LANDFALL
ON THE IBERIAN PENINSULA. BASED ON SURFACE REPORTS FROM FARO
PORTUGAL...THE CENTER PASSED JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE COAST OF
PORTUGAL...BEFORE BECOMING THE FIRST TROPICAL CYCLONE TO MAKE
LANDFALL IN SPAIN.
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Hurricane Center Has One Name Left: Wilma click
By Robert Roy Britt
LiveScience Managing Editor
posted: 10 October 2005
WILMA ! WILMA !!...
By Robert Roy Britt
LiveScience Managing Editor
posted: 10 October 2005
WILMA ! WILMA !!...
quote:The only name left on this year's list is Wilma, then the National Hurricane Center will switch for the first time to Greek names such Alpha, Beta, and Gamma.
En de laaste naam komt in zicht mensen, genaamd wilma die alleen nog over is.
Zojuist is T24 ontstaan.
Koers: Golf van Mexico, zeker om iets in de gaten te houden.
Momenteel luchtdruk: 1004 mb, 46 km/h.
Verwacht:
TD-24
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INITIAL 15/2100Z 17.6N 78.8W 25 KT
12HR VT 16/0600Z 17.5N 79.5W 35 KT
24HR VT 16/1800Z 17.5N 80.0W 45 KT
36HR VT 17/0600Z 17.5N 80.5W 60 KT
48HR VT 17/1800Z 17.5N 81.0W 70 KT
72HR VT 18/1800Z 17.5N 82.0W 80 KT
96HR VT 19/1800Z 18.0N 82.5W 85 KT
120HR VT 20/1800Z 19.5N 83.0W 85 KT
Leuk om te weten:
8115 km van Dokkum
Zojuist is T24 ontstaan.
Koers: Golf van Mexico, zeker om iets in de gaten te houden.
Momenteel luchtdruk: 1004 mb, 46 km/h.
Verwacht:
TD-24
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INITIAL 15/2100Z 17.6N 78.8W 25 KT
12HR VT 16/0600Z 17.5N 79.5W 35 KT
24HR VT 16/1800Z 17.5N 80.0W 45 KT
36HR VT 17/0600Z 17.5N 80.5W 60 KT
48HR VT 17/1800Z 17.5N 81.0W 70 KT
72HR VT 18/1800Z 17.5N 82.0W 80 KT
96HR VT 19/1800Z 18.0N 82.5W 85 KT
120HR VT 20/1800Z 19.5N 83.0W 85 KT
Leuk om te weten:
8115 km van Dokkum
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INITIAL 16/0900Z 17.0N 79.3W 30 KT
12HR VT 16/1800Z 16.9N 79.7W 35 KT
24HR VT 17/0600Z 16.9N 80.1W 40 KT
36HR VT 17/1800Z 17.0N 80.5W 50 KT
48HR VT 18/0600Z 17.3N 81.2W 60 KT
72HR VT 19/0600Z 18.0N 82.6W 70 KT
96HR VT 20/0600Z 19.5N 83.5W 80 KT
120HR VT 21/0600Z 22.0N 84.0W 95 KT...NEAR WESTERN CUBA
8200 km van Dokkum
12HR VT 16/1800Z 16.9N 79.7W 35 KT
24HR VT 17/0600Z 16.9N 80.1W 40 KT
36HR VT 17/1800Z 17.0N 80.5W 50 KT
48HR VT 18/0600Z 17.3N 81.2W 60 KT
72HR VT 19/0600Z 18.0N 82.6W 70 KT
96HR VT 20/0600Z 19.5N 83.5W 80 KT
120HR VT 21/0600Z 22.0N 84.0W 95 KT...NEAR WESTERN CUBA
8200 km van Dokkum
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Wilma : verwachtingen.
Weet iemand de temperatuur van het water tussen de driehoek van Cuba, Mexico en ZE-Amerika. Is de watertemperatuur nog steeds een voedingsbodem voor orkaans ? En wie heeft daar een plaatje van.
Weet iemand de temperatuur van het water tussen de driehoek van Cuba, Mexico en ZE-Amerika. Is de watertemperatuur nog steeds een voedingsbodem voor orkaans ? En wie heeft daar een plaatje van.
Ooh ooh, dit ziet er slecht uit!
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Voorlopig recht op New Orleans af,
actuele water themperaturen zijn te vinden op: http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/
actuele water themperaturen zijn te vinden op: http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/
Dat is idd niet zo gunstig
Zeker niet als je dit uitzet tegen orkaan Rita, die had behoorlijk aan kracht verloren (cat 3) omdat de laatste trajectorie grotendeels verliep over koelere wateren waardoor het veel aan kracht heeft verloren.
Met een trajectorie die geodetisch van zuid- naar-noord (richting New Orleans) kan orkaan Wilma behoorlijk aan kracht winnen in het warme water en pas bij het laatste stukje zal het iets aan kracht verliezen.
quote:Bron : CNN.com
Tropical Storm Wilma forms
Ties record for most storms in Atlantic season
Tropical Storm Wilma is south of Cuba in this infrared satellite image taken Monday at 3:15 a.m. ET.
MIAMI, Florida (AP) -- Tropical Storm Wilma formed Monday in the northwestern Caribbean, tying the record for the most storms in an Atlantic season and following a path that some forecasters believe could menace the Gulf Coast later this week as a hurricane.
Wilma is the 21st named storm of the season. The only other time that many storms formed since record keeping began 154 years ago was in 1933.
At 5 a.m. EDT, Wilma had top sustained winds near 40 mph, just above the threshold for tropical storms. It was centered about 175 miles southeast of Grand Cayman and drifting southwest near 3 mph.
A hurricane watch was issued for the Cayman Islands, meaning hurricane conditions could be felt there within 36 hours. The storm is expected to bring 4 to 6 inches of rain in the Cayman Islands and Jamaica, with as much as 12 inches possible in some areas, forecasters said.
Long-term forecasts show the storm heading into the Gulf of Mexico by the weekend. Forecasters said high water temperatures and other conditions were favorable for it to become a significant hurricane.
But hurricane specialist Stacy Stewart said Wilma had shifted west of its previous path and could hit Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, not the U.S. Gulf Coast. "At this time it doesn't appear it will be a major threat to the United States during the next five days," Stewart said.
The U.S. Gulf Coast was already battered this year by Hurricane Katrina on Aug. 29. It killed more than 1,240 people and is expected to cause more than $34 billion in insured losses. Hurricanes Rita and Dennis have also battered the coast.
Since 1995, the Atlantic has been in a period of higher hurricane activity. Scientists say the cause of the increase is a rise in ocean temperatures and a decrease in the amount of disruptive vertical wind shear that rips hurricanes apart. Some researchers argue that global warming fueled by man's generation of greenhouse gases is the culprit.
Forecasters at the National Hurricane Center say the busy seasons are part of a natural cycle that can last for at least 20 years, and sometimes up to 40 or 50. They say the conditions are similar to those when the Atlantic was last in a period of high activity in the 1950s and '60s.
It's also difficult to know whether the Atlantic was even busier at any time before record keeping began in 1851. And satellites have only been tracking tropical weather since the 1960s, so some storms that just stayed at sea before then could have escaped notice.
The six-month hurricane season ends Nov. 30. Wilma is the last on the list of storm names for 2005; there are 21 names on the yearly list because the letters q, u, x, y and z are skipped. If any other storms form, letters from the Greek alphabet would be used, starting with Alpha. That has never happened in roughly 60 years of regularly named Atlantic storms.
A tracking map on the hurricane center's wall already had Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta listed just in case they form.
Forecasters say they wouldn't be surprised if another storm formed this year, even though the official forecast only called for 21 named storms this year. Wind shear typically increases and sea temperatures usually fall toward the end of October in the Atlantic, hurricane specialist Richard Knabb said.
"But the western Caribbean is an especially favorable location for late season development because the water remains quite warm and the vertical shear often is not that strong down there, that far south. So conditions are still favorable down there sometimes in late October and into November," he said.
Als dit de 'ene' krachtige orkaan wordt zoals voorspeld voor oktober, dan kan inderdaad NO zich letterlijk de borst natmaken...
duurt nog even voordat hij daar evntueel aan land gaat, maar ben benieuwd.quote:Op maandag 17 oktober 2005 11:52 schreef Tapie_Tapacho het volgende:
Voorlopig recht op New Orleans af,
actuele water themperaturen zijn te vinden op: http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/
[b]Op maandag 6 september 2010 00:28 schreef tong80 het volgende:[/b]
GVD Wat moet jij een trotse vader zijn :)
:P
GVD Wat moet jij een trotse vader zijn :)
:P
Het [NWS] topic is ook al in de lucht met een verwijzing naar dit [WFL] topic.
[Centraal] Orkaan Wilma (no 24) - The Beginning. beetje vroeg maar een visionair topic.
[Centraal] Orkaan Wilma (no 24) - The Beginning. beetje vroeg maar een visionair topic.
Eerst nog de Yucatán in ieder geval.quote:Op maandag 17 oktober 2005 12:35 schreef Drugshond het volgende:
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De modellen zeggen toch echt New Orleans
