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Op maandag 19 september 2005 15:40 schreef JohnDope het volgende:
Nederland het land van de drugs en hoeren?? Nederland is het Colombia van Europa
Hehe daar zit er wel wat waarheid in. Wiet plantages onder tienduizenden woningen, XTC labs ect...
  dinsdag 20 september 2005 @ 23:48:04 #277
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Waarom reageren nederlandse media eigenlijk niet wat feller hierop?
You've never felt pain until you've walked in a dancer's shoes
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Op dinsdag 20 september 2005 23:48 schreef Aarti het volgende:
Waarom reageren nederlandse media eigenlijk niet wat feller hierop?
Verbeter de wereld begin bij jezelf zou ik zeggen
  woensdag 21 september 2005 @ 00:03:24 #279
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Ik hoop dat al die Amerikanen naar Dr. Phil luisteren, dan is het in ieder geval lekker rustig in Aruba als ik daar volgende week naartoe ga!

Geen schijnheilige gesprekken, geen schijnheilige glimlach, geen "God-this" en "God-that", etc. etc. --> heerlijk!
Geen linkse rakker, maar een rechtse realist!
  woensdag 21 september 2005 @ 00:07:31 #280
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Op dinsdag 20 september 2005 23:49 schreef LodewijkNapoleon het volgende:

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Verbeter de wereld begin bij jezelf zou ik zeggen
Ik ben geen medium

Maar serieus, hoe zou ik er als persoon wat aan kunnen doen? Het lijkt me, dat als er nieuwsprogramma's en programma's als RTL Boulevard en zo, hier tijd en zendtijd aan besteden, dat er dan eerder een signaal vanuit Nederland wordt gegeven, dat het op zn minst onbeschoft van dr Phil is?
You've never felt pain until you've walked in a dancer's shoes
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Ik kreeg deze vandaag tweemaal in de bus:
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HI EVERYONE, PLEASE WRITE YOUR NAME AT THE END OF THIS LETTER AND
>>FOWARD IT TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW !!!!
>>
>>Dear Dr. Phil
>>
>>We have great admiration for the level of quality and fact based
>>information of your programs. Our lives have certainly been
>>enlightened by your professional advice, and more so, we have been
>>given the privilege of being able to understand and learn from the
>>emotional and psychological issues of your guest and from your
>>resulting professional interventions.
>>
>>However, with disturbing disappointment, yet with confidence in
>>being acknowledged by your professionalism, we
>strongly disapprove of your
>>uncharacteristic handling of The Nathalee Holloway Case recently
>>aired during your show. The issue being your subjective position
>>towards the case which fundamentally conflicts with the principles
>>of your show and, as we have grown to appreciate, your values.
>>
>>Your subjective position, exacerbated by an apparent complete void
>>of research on this subject has clearly allowed the family to
>>manipulate your program for their personal gain similar to other
>>popular media we consider as not being at your standards. With
>>regards to this, and by agreeing to a boycott against Aruba, you
>>have publicly and willingly taken a subjective position towards a
>>nation which has held its doors open through the best, and
>>recently,
>through the worst moments of your nation for the past 60 odd
>>years.
>>
>>
>>Any genuine grief the Twitty family might have, which was clearly
>>not evident during their extensive stay in Aruba, is no excuse for
>>what is seemingly becoming an unfounded and personal vendetta
>>against the people of Aruba. Everybody has the right on having his
>>own opinion, but no one has the right on having his own facts.
>>
>>It is not acceptable how the Twitty family and most of the US
>>press have disrespected our legal system because they failed in
>>bending the outcome to their choosing. Might we add that in Aruba
>>as well as in the US a person is innocent until proven guilty and
>>by you taking the position behind the Twitty family is as you, and
>>we, say
>unconstitutional and shameful to the
>>word of law of both our nations. It would have been more
>>objective, and characteristic of you, to commend the incredible
>>efforts our system is still allotting to this case in finding
>>Nathalee, and on the other hand, like most of us in Aruba request
>>an insurance fraud inquiry on the Twitty family.
>>
>>Recently in New York a 5-month pregnant girl (Figueroa) went
>>missing, however was last seen with the father of the child. The
>>father of the child was interrogated but was not detained during
>>the investigation which would be contrary to our legal system. It
>>was not until they found her body that the father of the baby was
>>detained and formally charged. No body, no case.
>>
>>Please explain the legal difference in
>handling this case and the Nathalee
>>Holloway case. This is the start of being objective.
>>
>>If you can appreciate the aforementioned, and can find yourself in
>>considering overturning the damage this specific show has caused
>>to itself and to Aruba, consider airing another show dedicated to
>>the Nathalee Holloway case, however, with guests from Aruba whom
>>are capable of explaining your audience of the facts, and not
>>sensationalism. Needless to say, Mrs. Twitty is most welcome to be
>>on the panel as well.
>>
>>Being confident in hearing from you, we remain.
>>
>>1)Denise Koolman-Arends 2)Aixa Arana 3) Gisela de Veer 4)Belinda
>>v/ Linde 5) Gisele van Grieken 6)SharonWegereef 7)Sandra Hese/
>>8)Gerard de Veer 9) Michelle
>Koolman
>>10)Garrett Koolman 11)John Eloy Arends 12)Alexa Ho-Kang-You 13)
>>Rachelle Koolman 14)Gerrit Koolman 15)R. De la Marre 16)J.L.Croes
>>17)J.P.Klappers 18)Carrol Woorts 19)Yesenia Arends 20)America
>>Barrios 21)Farah Figaroa 22)Farrah Lacle 23) Sheldon Lee 24)
>>Amanda Kock 25) Juliska Henriquez 26) Janine J Geerman 27) Thomas
>>Gabriel Ruiz 28) Mayra Tromp 29) Chantal Sterkenburg 30)Anthony
>>Geerman 31) Neely Cosentino 32) Samantha Booi 33) Onno van Romondt
>>Jr. 34) Mirugia de Cuba 35) Hienke Verploeg 36) Martin Buitenweg 37
>> Harry koeman 38) Joop Rooijakkers 39) Reint Roossien 40) Paula
>>Samuels-Zijlstra 41) Joost Samuels 42) Zayenne Steigenberger 43)
>>Nicole Oduber 44) Angelo Croes 45) Levinia M Kusmus 46) Esther Vermaas
Slecht en langdradig geschreven brief. Sowieso doe ik nooit me aan die ongein, zelfs niet als het wél nut zou hebben.
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
  woensdag 21 september 2005 @ 00:52:51 #282
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Oké die moeder heeft haar kind verloren, dan neem ik het haar iets minder kwalijk, maar dr. Phil moet zich ontzettend diep schamen voor de gedane uitspraken. Moeten alle Arubanen het slachtoffer worden van het feit dat Natalee de hoer het feestbeest moest uithangen?

Wat een kortzichtige lul
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Op dinsdag 20 september 2005 23:48 schreef Aarti het volgende:
Waarom reageren nederlandse media eigenlijk niet wat feller hierop?
omdat de media hier oogkleppen op heeft.
En liever aandacht besteedt aan het dieptepunt van het aardse bestaan: de BN-er.
  donderdag 22 september 2005 @ 13:41:28 #284
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Op donderdag 22 september 2005 13:13 schreef halion het volgende:

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omdat de media hier oogkleppen op heeft.
En liever aandacht besteedt aan het dieptepunt van het aardse bestaan: de BN-er.
GNU Terry Pratchett
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Ach die heilige dokter Phil moet gewoon hard op zijn smoel geslagen worden Verbeter de wereld begin bij jezelf zou ik zeggen.

Hoeveel mensen verdwijnen er niet dagelijks in de ghetto's van LA, NY enz.......en daar zegt ie niks over. Heeft de US niet het hoogste moord gehalte per hoofd van de bevolking ter wereld????
Wise men speak because they have something to say. Fools because they have to say something.
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^Ik dacht Colombia, Zuid-Afrika en Mexico
  donderdag 22 september 2005 @ 15:02:01 #287
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Op donderdag 22 september 2005 14:03 schreef Stratos het volgende:
^Ik dacht Colombia, Zuid-Afrika en Mexico
LA South Central is een stuk gevaarlijker dan die bovenstaande gebieden

Maar, is die Phil nog steeds niet dood dan
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Op woensdag 21 september 2005 00:29 schreef heiden6 het volgende:
Ik kreeg deze vandaag tweemaal in de bus:
[..]

Slecht en langdradig geschreven brief. Sowieso doe ik nooit me aan die ongein, zelfs niet als het wél nut zou hebben.
Ik zou al niet meedoen vanwege
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We have great admiration for the level of quality and fact based information of your programs.
More oneness, less categories
Open hearts, no strategies
Decisions based upon faith and not fear
People who live right now and right here
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Op donderdag 22 september 2005 13:44 schreef Cochise het volgende:
Heeft de US niet het hoogste moord gehalte per hoofd van de bevolking ter wereld????
Toevallig

S. Africa still struggles with murders
Homicide rate may be down, but 51 people are killed daily


Wednesday, September 21, 2005; Posted: 6:58 p.m. EDT (22:58 GMT)

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CAPE TOWN, South Africa (AP) -- Ten-year-old Marissa Naidoo, who was kidnapped from her primary school, murdered and stuffed in a suitcase, was buried Wednesday as the government released statistics showing that 51 South Africans are killed in an average day.

Marissa's murder, by a man who fooled teachers that he was a family acquaintance, sent shock waves through this crime-hardened nation.

Safety and Security Minister Charles Nqakula prefaced his introduction of the annual police report by grieving publicly with parents "forced to weep when the lives of their loved ones are taken away under dastardly conditions."

"For a long time to come, we are going to be losing people in South Africa in that fashion," Nqakula lamented.

Eleven years after the advent of multiracial democracy, South Africa remains one of the world's most crime-ridden societies, a legacy of years of violent suppression during the apartheid era.

Nonetheless, the government has made big strides toward its target of cutting violent crime by 7 percent per year.

The police report said that 18,793 people were murdered in the fiscal year April 2004 to March 2005, down 5.2 percent from the 19,824 reported the previous year.

The report said there were 24,516 attempted murders -- down 18.5 percent on 2003/2004. Police officials said this was largely thanks to a government amnesty which persuaded people to surrender some 90,000 unlicensed firearms.

Reported rape rose by 4.5 percent to 55,114 cases, and indecent assault was also higher than the previous year.

Nqakula said this was partly due to the fact that increasing numbers of women felt sufficient confidence in the police to report the crime -- even though the reported cases are still believed to be the tip of the iceberg.

Assault, aggravated robbery, arson, house and vehicle burglaries all fell, as did carjackings.

"The future to me looks very rosy in terms of the fight against crime and criminality in South Africa," Nqakula told a press conference.

He said a "tremendous change" had taken place in safety in security in the past five years and that South Africa did not deserve its international reputation as one of the world's crime capitals.

"There is crime everywhere in the world, it is just that ... some people do not go to other countries and talk about crime in their country."

At the birth of its new democracy in 1994, South Africa had the world's highest homicide rate of 67 per 100,000 -- largely as a result of murders in the country's impoverished and overcrowded townships.

The rate fell to 40 per 100,000 in 2004, behind Colombia at 67 per 100,000 and Jamaica at 59 per 100,000.

But this compares to rates of some 6 per 100,000 in the United States and 3 per 100,000 in Britain, according to figures from the international police organization Interpol.

"South Africa is really off the scale compared to most other countries," said Anton De Plessis, head of the crime and justice program at the Institute for Security Studies.

But he cautioned that many developing countries -- including violent societies such as Somalia and Afghanistan -- do not report their crime figures to Interpol and so the published statistics do not reflect international reality.

"But what is positive for South Africa is that the situation is getting better," he said, pointing out that violent crime has fallen by some 40 percent since 1994.

Most murders and violent assaults in South Africa are committed by acquaintances or partners of the victims.

In the case of Marissa Naidoo, the man pretended that he had come to collect the child from her classroom in the Johannesburg suburb of Benoni because her father had been arrested. He subsequently demanded a ransom for her.

The man, identified as Raveen Rampersadh, jumped to his death from his apartment balcony as police tried to storm the building.

Marissa's body was found in a suitcase. Initial reports said that she had suffocated

Bron; CNN
  donderdag 22 september 2005 @ 18:25:30 #290
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Op donderdag 22 september 2005 15:02 schreef Yildiz het volgende:


LA South Central is een stuk gevaarlijker dan die bovenstaande gebieden
Je praat weer uitwerpselen
I have an imaginary friend too. His name is loopy. He’s a polar bear who helps me fight crime.
  donderdag 22 september 2005 @ 18:29:23 #291
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Op maandag 19 september 2005 18:12 schreef sp3c het volgende:
is er al iemand op het idee gekomen de Ámerikaanse ambassade in Nederland (vriendelijk!) te mailen?

heeft allicht meer zin dan drphil zijn inbox vol te spammen
Net gedaan
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Beste Jan-Kees,

Hierbij verzoek ik (een Fokker) u om in Amerika de vrijheid van meningsuiting maar te schrappen, een kale man uit de Amerikaanse staat Oklahoma vertelde namelijk dingen op de Amerikaanse TV en daar kan ik mij niet in vinden, omdat ik een Nederlander ben ga ik er dus gewoon van uit dat u hier iets aan gaat doen en die betreffende Dr Phil de mond gaat snoeren en als het een optie is ergens ver weg opsluit.

Hoogachtend, uit het land van de voorouders van Martin van Buuren.

SpugendeLama
Hier hebben ze vast niet van terug
I have an imaginary friend too. His name is loopy. He’s a polar bear who helps me fight crime.
  donderdag 22 september 2005 @ 19:18:00 #292
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Op donderdag 22 september 2005 18:25 schreef SpugendeLama het volgende:

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Je praat weer uitwerpselen
Maar natuurlijk, heb je het onderzocht of niet?

BTW, USA danwel Aruba weer gaan vergelijken met andere landen ZuidAfrika om te laten zien ''dat het allemaal niet zo erg is' is ook een kromme gang van zaken...
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  donderdag 22 september 2005 @ 19:33:18 #293
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Op donderdag 22 september 2005 19:18 schreef Yildiz het volgende:

Maar natuurlijk, heb je het onderzocht of niet?
Dat moge evident zijn.
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BTW, USA danwel Aruba weer gaan vergelijken met andere landen ZuidAfrika om te laten zien ''dat het allemaal niet zo erg is' is ook een kromme gang van zaken...
Neen, dat is zeer zeker niet het geval.
I have an imaginary friend too. His name is loopy. He’s a polar bear who helps me fight crime.
  donderdag 22 september 2005 @ 20:22:38 #294
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Wees blij dat je nog leeft!
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Je zou bijna vinden dat Natalee het verdient om te verdwijnen! (samen met Dr. Phil en Beth... )
Sinterklahs, Ghet Dawn!!!!
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Heeft dr Phil al een vervolg gemaakt op z'n laatste show?
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Op zaterdag 24 september 2005 09:31 schreef LodewijkNapoleon het volgende:
Heeft dr Phil al een vervolg gemaakt op z'n laatste show?
Als hij dat doet kan ik je nu al vertellen dat hij al die reacties van Nederlanders vol scheldwoorden er uit pakt, en de brieven zoals die van een Amerikaanse in dit topic die WEL realistisch na kan denken, en de reacties door fokkers gegeven op het forum van Dr. Phil of Natalee website genegeerd worden. Als je al reacties verwijderd die je niet aanstaan dan zal hij deze ook niet in zijn show laten zien. Het is gewoon 1 groot schijnheilig zootje daar. Censuur ten top.
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Op de bannedlijst van http://www.nataleeholloway.net/:
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Yosemite (8/13/2005) Suspect
Nice going Yosemite!

[ Bericht 14% gewijzigd door trancethrust op 24-09-2005 15:34:36 ]
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Decisions based upon faith and not fear
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Op zaterdag 24 september 2005 15:28 schreef trancethrust het volgende:
Op de bannedlijst van http://www.nataleeholloway.net/:
[..]

Nice going Yosemite!
Slechts 16 banned members? (Nee, geen band members )
Komaan luitjes, waar is jullie zin voor initiatief?
  zaterdag 24 september 2005 @ 17:20:45 #299
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Op zaterdag 24 september 2005 16:39 schreef Doderok het volgende:

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Slechts 16 banned members? (Nee, geen band members )
Komaan luitjes, waar is jullie zin voor initiatief?
1.000.000 beloning nu, in dollars
Ik denk dat ik even wacht totdat de euro inzakt, en dan bel ik ze wel ff

just kiddin' ik weet niets natuurlijk, voordat de FBI - malloot ineens voor me deur staat
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  † In Memoriam † maandag 26 september 2005 @ 00:46:01 #300
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JORAN: TARGETED FOR DEATH
Friday September 23, 2005


By DAVID WRIGHT

Police on two continents have been alerted to a plot to kill Joran van der Sloot and two other prime suspects in the case of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway.

Authorities in Aruba, where Natalee vanished nearly four months ago, have warned cops in Holland that there's a price on Joran's head.

Dutch-born Joran, 18, flew there after being released from prison to attend Arnhem Business School.

"There are angry people both in the U.S. and in Aruba who want him and his friends Deepak and Satish Kalpoe dead," a source told The National Enquirer.

"Many in America believe the trio have escaped justice in Natalee's murder. Some Arubans are angry that Joran and the Kalpoes have brought so much negative attention to their island.

Officials have been told bluntly: 'They were better off in jail.' "

The threat was already obvious an hour before Joran and the Kalpoes were released from prison. A National Enquirer reporter on the scene watched a worried security detail sweep a house overlooking the prison for weapons.

"There have been warnings about mercenaries who are prepared to kill them, and violent people just waiting for the right moment," said the source. "I wouldn't even be surprised if Joran's mother or brother were kidnapped — his enemies might figure it's the only way to get Joran to talk."

Arnhem police spokesman Gohan Rongen acknowledged that they were aware of Joran's presence there. Asked about death threats, he said: "I can't give you any information."
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