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Op maandag 29 augustus 2005 09:35 schreef FidelZandro het volgende:

die mag je volgens de grondwet daaro niet inzetten tegen je eigen bevolking.
Oh?
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de Patriot Act I en II
Civil rights, who gives a fuck.
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Op maandag 29 augustus 2005 10:48 schreef Penis_Koker het volgende:

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Oh?
jaha, echt waar !! het heet de posse comitatus act
kijk maar
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Civil rights, who gives a fuck.
i do !
Ay un porrito aqui ?
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Op maandag 29 augustus 2005 11:39 schreef FidelZandro het volgende:

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jaha, echt waar !! het heet de posse comitatus act
kijk maar
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i do !
Het was meer om aan te geven dat ze voor zulke dingen toch altijd ergens op terug kunnen vallen. In dit geval was het optreden van het leger gerechtvaardigd door die patriot act. Zulke smoesjes.
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haha is dit topic nog niet doodgebloed??

Dan maar nog 1 keer, de cultuur in nederland kan je niet vergelijken met die in amerika. Amerikanen zijn en blijven cowboys, dus als een stel jonge cowboys een illegale drugparty geven, dan moet de overheid met zwaarder geschut komen om die jonge cowboyz - oN dOpe & BoOze - in het gareel te houden......

En verder had ik vorige week in nederland ook een beetje te veel politiehelicopters zien over vliegen, dus waar praten we over
"Mensen die tegen Israël zijn, zijn in werkelijkheid antisemieten." Doctor Martin Luther King - 1967
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die party was niet illegaal, behalve dat beetje drugs wat er aangewezig was
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Op maandag 29 augustus 2005 13:14 schreef Yorrit het volgende:
die party was niet illegaal, behalve dat beetje drugs wat er aangewezig was
of de party illegaal is of niet dat maakt niet uit, het ging er om dat de overheid daar moest wezen en op die plek stond het stampes vol met cowboyz on dope and booze. Dan kan je natuurlijk niet met alleen de bijbel komen aanschijten
"Mensen die tegen Israël zijn, zijn in werkelijkheid antisemieten." Doctor Martin Luther King - 1967
  maandag 29 augustus 2005 @ 14:03:55 #157
120804 Yildiz
Freedom or loyalty?
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Op maandag 29 augustus 2005 13:18 schreef JohnDope het volgende:

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of de party illegaal is of niet dat maakt niet uit, het ging er om dat de overheid daar moest wezen en op die plek stond het stampes vol met cowboyz on dope and booze. Dan kan je natuurlijk niet met alleen de bijbel komen aanschijten
1: Troll http://images.google.nl/images?q=troll&hl=nl
2: Mensenrechten?
3: Kijk toch maar eens naar het filmpje fascism? Ik zal em ff opzoeken, staat in het topic.
Je gaat huilen

Edit, hmmm, filmpje kan je niet meer downloaden, hij staat thuis op de PC, als ik thuis ben host ik em wel ff op www.rapidshare.de , als iemand anders nog wel beschikking heeft over dat filmpje, mag die em natuurlijk ook hosten
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Op maandag 29 augustus 2005 14:03 schreef Yildiz het volgende:

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1: Troll http://images.google.nl/images?q=troll&hl=nl
2: Mensenrechten?
3: Kijk toch maar eens naar het filmpje fascism? Ik zal em ff opzoeken, staat in het topic.
Je gaat huilen

Edit, hmmm, filmpje kan je niet meer downloaden, hij staat thuis op de PC, als ik thuis ben host ik em wel ff op www.rapidshare.de , als iemand anders nog wel beschikking heeft over dat filmpje, mag die em natuurlijk ook hosten
Ik heb het filmpje al gezien

En ik kan je vertellen dat ik wel eens veel harder gearresteerd ben geweest en 1 keer daarvan was ik echt onschuldig
"Mensen die tegen Israël zijn, zijn in werkelijkheid antisemieten." Doctor Martin Luther King - 1967
  maandag 29 augustus 2005 @ 14:34:58 #159
120804 Yildiz
Freedom or loyalty?
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Op maandag 29 augustus 2005 14:18 schreef JohnDope het volgende:

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Ik heb het filmpje al gezien

En ik kan je vertellen dat ik wel eens veel harder gearresteerd ben geweest en 1 keer daarvan was ik echt onschuldig
En dat vond je leuk! ? .............
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Op maandag 29 augustus 2005 14:34 schreef Yildiz het volgende:

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En dat vond je leuk! ? .............
Ik vond er niks aan, weinig actie..... heb em delete ook.
"Mensen die tegen Israël zijn, zijn in werkelijkheid antisemieten." Doctor Martin Luther King - 1967
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Op maandag 29 augustus 2005 13:18 schreef JohnDope het volgende:

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of de party illegaal is of niet dat maakt niet uit, het ging er om dat de overheid daar moest wezen en op die plek stond het stampes vol met cowboyz on dope and booze. Dan kan je natuurlijk niet met alleen de bijbel komen aanschijten
wat bedoel je daarmee ?
is er meer aan de hand misschien ?

check dit

weet jij hier meer van ?
Ay un porrito aqui ?
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Nederknuppelen die drugshippies Flink de baton in hun nek leggen, dat zal ze wel leren.
"Welfare culture is bad not just because, as in Europe, it's bankrupting the state, but because it enfeebles the citizenry, it erodes self-reliance and resourcefulness."
-Mark Steyn
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Een mormonen-staat en raves. nee, die gaan niet samen.
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Op dinsdag 30 augustus 2005 03:58 schreef StefanP het volgende:
Nederknuppelen die drugshippies Flink de baton in hun nek leggen, dat zal ze wel leren.
Wat een conservatief mannetje ben je toch, Steef.

Ik vrees dat zelfs good ol' Texas te progressief is voor jou.
Move the fuck up north, you twat.

And get some pussy. Your sack is full of shit.

[ Bericht 5% gewijzigd door halion op 30-08-2005 10:59:23 ]
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Op dinsdag 23 augustus 2005 15:18 schreef Yildiz het volgende:

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Nou, lekker....
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Not a legal protest..... die gasten zijn gewoon geen feesten gewend, en dat noemt zich "freedom" fighter


IK WIL NIET MEER NAAR DE USA! KUTLAND!
(ja, ik wou er stage lopen, maar nu niet meer, opkazen)
Dat is precies de reden waarom alle Natalee Holloways uit hun pan gaan in Aruba.
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II couldn’t agree with you more. If anything, our glorious police in the name of the Patriot act, President George Bush and Bishop Kay Bryson and Jeff Robinson should have shot and killed a few of those damned kids in order to make the sound point that Law and order is supreme in our society.

By producing another Kent State incident, we would impress the low life’s not to mess with us. Haul them all to jail and get this riff raff off of our streets.

One other point, if you don’t like the way we do things here in Zion, then get the hell out of here and take your damned immorality with you. God bless our police, they are all called of God for a righteous purpose and they are enforcing his will. Absolutely, sig the dogs on this human trash, they are useless human beings and should be driven from among us.

Remember how the Lehi police, a few months back, took care of that useless dirt bag old man. Seventy of our most glorious policemen stormed that old man’s property and showed him as well as to who was boss.

The underlying message to any and all who would come among us, get out of line and we will fix your wagon good.


Say, Lt. Jeff Robinson, were you there leading the charge and also beating up on the kids? The newspaper article stated the following, “Saturday's rave kicked off at 9 p.m., and by 10 p.m. undercover detectives with the Utah Major Crimes Task Force had observed "numerous illegal activities" involving drugs and alcohol. They also verified that more than 250 people were at the party in violation of county statutes.” Now ain’t that the criminal organization that was formed by the wife abuser, Carlyle K. Bryson to abuse the good citizens of Utah County and ain’t you a lt. deputy dawg with this bunch of storm troopers. Way to go dipstick, you really made brownie points this time, and Sherry the fairy does have job security.
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het is overigens ook best bizar hoe men met privacy omgaat daar in Utah.

http://www.co.utah.ut.us/Dept/Sheriff/InmateActiveResults.asp
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inclusief beschrijving van alle tattoes:


TATOOS- L LOWER LEG-EAGLE/SNAKE R LOWER LEG- EAGLE ON PENIS- "YOUR NAME"

http://www.co.utah.ut.us/Dept/Sheriff/InmateDetail.asp?id=178131


NO SHIT!
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en tot slot de cameraman op het feest:

http://www.co.utah.ut.us/Dept/Sheriff/InmateDetail.asp?id=179394

Charges:
5311 Disorderly Conduct Bail: $280.00 B BN
LIBERTAD BAIL BONDS
Court: JPC 12994802 Status: CG
5499 SEAT BELT VIOLATION Bail: $315.00 B PTA

Court: OTH 12994802 Status: WA
4801 Resisting Arrest Bail: $555.00 B BN
LIBERTAD BAIL BONDS
Court: JPC 12994802 Status: CG
  dinsdag 30 augustus 2005 @ 22:02:27 #170
120804 Yildiz
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De tering,....
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  dinsdag 30 augustus 2005 @ 23:37:36 #171
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Op dinsdag 30 augustus 2005 12:53 schreef halion het volgende:
inclusief beschrijving van alle tattoes:


TATOOS- L LOWER LEG-EAGLE/SNAKE R LOWER LEG- EAGLE ON PENIS- "YOUR NAME"

http://www.co.utah.ut.us/Dept/Sheriff/InmateDetail.asp?id=178131


NO SHIT!
Cool. Zo'n gast laat je ook niet vrij rondlopen natuurlijk.
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Ahmadinejad, leader of Iran
  woensdag 31 augustus 2005 @ 00:16:26 #172
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Humanistisch misantroop
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Op dinsdag 30 augustus 2005 12:55 schreef halion het volgende:
en tot slot de cameraman op het feest:

http://www.co.utah.ut.us/Dept/Sheriff/InmateDetail.asp?id=179394

Charges:
5311 Disorderly Conduct Bail: $280.00 B BN
LIBERTAD BAIL BONDS
Court: JPC 12994802 Status: CG
5499 SEAT BELT VIOLATION Bail: $315.00 B PTA

Court: OTH 12994802 Status: WA
4801 Resisting Arrest Bail: $555.00 B BN
LIBERTAD BAIL BONDS
Court: JPC 12994802 Status: CG
Idioot. Meer dan $1000 aan bail voor nietszeggende vergrijpen. Seat Belt Violation, $280.00

Leuke staat....
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
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Op woensdag 31 augustus 2005 00:16 schreef Dubbelzuurrr het volgende:

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Idioot. Meer dan $1000 aan bail voor nietszeggende vergrijpen. Seat Belt Violation, $280.00

Leuke staat....
Rijden in een onverzekerde auto levert je gewoon een paar jaar jailtime op.
En echt niet alleen in Utah. Pretty sick.
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12-Hour Party People

Utah County enforced its permit, even if time was on the side of dance party promoters, by Jamie Gadette;


Trudy Childs recalls rubbing her wrists and wincing in agony. No stranger to pain, the 52-year-old rheumatoid arthritis sufferer could barely tolerate the zip tags Utah County Sheriff’s deputies used to keep her in line. An unsympathetic officer congratulated Childs on an “Emmy-winning performance,” laughing as his colleagues—close to 90 law-enforcement officials, including Provo City police and a Utah Department of Corrections SWAT squad—cleared out hundreds of people attending Versus II, an electronic music event hosted on her private property Aug. 20. “I don’t know why you think this is so damn funny,” Childs told the officer, frustrated by his mocking grin.

Meanwhile, officers dressed in camouflage and helmets ushered revelers off Childs’ property. Armed with semiautomatic rifles, attack dogs and, allegedly, tear gas, few people questioned their authority. The next day, online forums and various blogs decried the “illegal rave” bust as a blatant violation of basic civil rights.

Authorities said that the all-night dance party attracted drug use, theft, sexual assault and underage drinking. They later said Versus II promoters didn’t have the proper permits to host a mass gathering of more than 250 people, “reasonably expected to exceed 12 hours.”

The permit in question now fuels pending legal action against Utah County. Brian M. Barnard, attorney for Childs and the concert promoters, High Point Productions and Uprok Records, said he’ll file a civil-rights suit in federal court. While Barnard has not yet filed a formal complaint, he’s confident the law is on his client’s side. Brandon Fullmer, manager of Uprok and part-promoter of Versus II, knew of the county ordinance but believed he didn’t need one since his party wouldn’t exceed 12 hours.

“I don’t think there’s any question that the sheriff misapplied the ordinance and acted improperly,” Barnard said, adding that the raid was discriminatory and an act of censorship. “If individuals break the law, punish them. But don’t assume that everyone who goes to a rap, hip-hop, or electronic music concert is a criminal.” The Sheriff’s Office did not return phone calls.

Utah County’s mass-gathering permit, and others like it, has roots dating back to perhaps the most famous mass gathering of all: Woodstock. Back then, officials nationwide wanted to prevent similar events in their own back yards. They feared a generation whose music and politics scoffed at authority.

“Fast forward to 2005 and things haven’t changed,” Barnard said. The irony becomes greater considering that the dancing-equals-eternal-damnation film, Footloose, was shot in Utah.

It’s not as if promoters wanted to rebel. In fact, they did all they could to comply with the law. Fullmer started planning the concert in April. He had thrown previous events as manager for a now-defunct record shop and didn’t foresee any trouble acquiring the necessary permits.

Fullmer, who scheduled the event for a 9.5-hour period, from 9 p.m. to 6:30 a.m., secured a permit through the Utah County Health Department (UCHD). He took out a $1 million insurance policy, hired security guards, rented portable toilets, obtained a solid-waste permit and met a number of other requirements before booking out-of-state and local DJs. Fullmer selected the Childs’ property as venue of choice for its sloping hills and scenic, redrock backdrop. He knew the family had a somewhat antagonistic relationship with Utah County law enforcement—Yancy and Rory Childs started throwing concerts in 2003, angering police with their rock and reggae noise—but figured since he’d met all the health permit’s requirements, there was no cause for concern. “I knew everything was good to go,” he said.

So did Trudy’s son, Rory Childs. The 23-year-old returned missionary, who planned to throw an Aug. 13 concert honoring a recently deceased friend, was determined to avoid a repeat of July 16, when local law-enforcement officials instigated a raid similar to the Aug. 20 bust, breaking up—but not arresting and/or ticketing—a large, heavy-metal audience. He researched all requirements, obtained a fire-safety permit, picked up a copy of the lengthy public-assemblies ordinance and says he showed it to UCHD officials who said it wasn’t necessary since his event would last less than 12 hours. Not taking any chances, Rory contacted Utah County Attorney Kay Bryson who gave him the runaround, with no straight answers and recommending he contact another attorney. Calls to Bryson’s office were not returned.

While the tribute concert went off without a hitch, its success gave Fullmer and High Point Productions a false sense of security. Like Rory, they did not “anticipate” their mass gathering to run beyond dawn.

“The sheriff, who apparently has a crystal ball allowing him to see into the future, said the concert would last more than 12 hours,” Barnard said. “But when the storm troopers came to visit, it was only two or three hours into the program.”

Some might suggest Fullmer should have secured the permit as a precaution so his bases would be covered. However, the ordinance is rife with arduous and costly requirements. For example, for large assemblies, promoters must hire a licensed physician for every 1,000 people on hand. An emergency medical staff is not enough. Besides, “The law doesn’t work with ‘should have known,’” Barnard said, adding that an individual cannot be held accountable for not predicting potential illegalities.

Childs understands her family can’t use their property however they please. She knows that the U.S. Supreme Court has upheld zoning restrictions and reasonable licensing of events such as the Aug. 20 ill-fated concert. She’s also learned, however, that sometimes bureaucratic measures complicate her constitutional rights. Twenty years ago, her family owned 9,500 acres of land. That number has since dwindled to 2,200.

In 1990, the Childs waged a five-year battle to protect a parcel of their land the Bureau of Reclamation wanted for constructing a pipeline. Or was it to save an endangered flower? The government’s story kept changing. Eventually, the Bureau won and her family waved goodbye to another chunk of property. She worries that her family will lose control of additional land—that is, if Utah County has anything to do about it.

Meanwhile, her sons Rory and Yancy still plan on turning part of their property into a music venue similar to Red Butte Gardens. Their venture might fill an overlooked niche in Utah County, offering a place for residents to enjoy a wide range of concerts—and, hopefully, never face the barrel of a gun.
http://www.slweekly.com/editorial/2005/cityweek_1_2005-09-01.cfm

Waarom ik het belangrijk vind dat hier aandacht aan besteed wordt? Omdat iedereen maar doet alsof er niets aan de hand is met onze vrijheid. Een of andere overduidelijk niet integere nazi fuck wordt hier gewoon VS-ambassadeur, het kabinet hier voert rustig en gestaag de controle over de burger op en politici overal blijven maar wegkomen met hun bullshit omdat ook de media tegenwoordig niet verder komt dan wat makke-lammetjes-gemekker.
Het gaat om de moraal van dit incidentje, niet of het nou logisch is dat het is gebeurd.
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  vrijdag 2 september 2005 @ 15:47:54 #175
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Ik hou niet van titels
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Op woensdag 31 augustus 2005 00:16 schreef Dubbelzuurrr het volgende:

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Idioot. Meer dan $1000 aan bail voor nietszeggende vergrijpen. Seat Belt Violation, $280.00

Leuke staat....
Ehh, $280,- bail, en de boete zal wel lager liggen.
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  vrijdag 2 september 2005 @ 16:16:59 #176
113650 maniack28
Dresden Dolls O+
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Debielen daarzo!!!
Cause I'd rather continue my trip to the top of the mountain then freeze to death in the valley.
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"You can never get enough of what you don't need to make you happy."
  zaterdag 17 september 2005 @ 19:45:11 #178
120804 Yildiz
Freedom or loyalty?
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Op zaterdag 17 september 2005 16:59 schreef Sebastral het volgende:
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http://www.music-versus-guns.org/mamboserver/

Aardige site ook, die sherrif krijgt zo te zien, terecht, heel erg hard op zijn donder.
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