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hahahaquote:Op dinsdag 14 juni 2005 21:27 schreef heiden6 het volgende:
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Dat jochie rechtsachter op de eerste foto is echt een onwijze kneus. Zat bij mij op de voetbalclub; ik heb hem nog wel eens een paar klappen verkocht.
Het wordt nu toch wel eens tijd voor wat tekst en uitleg van Rudy, lijkt me zo.
en denk je persoonlijk dat Joran de poran het gedaan heeft? Wat voor jongen is hij?
http://www.riehlworldview(...)6/more.html#comments
quote:More
Update:
police confirm the following have been found at the search scene: Women’s underwear
Condoms
Pieces of duct tape
Micky John declared yesterday that the two brothers confessed to him.
After leaving Arashi /Lighthouse, they left Natalee with Joran at Fisher's mans hut a beach close to the Hyatt. They went to swim at that beach.
That was the last time they saw Natalee. They went home and went to the internet to chat. After one hour, they received a message from Joran that stated: "I have something to tell you"
This was statement of Micky John, detainee, that helped to secure his freedom yesterday.
holy fuckquote:Op dinsdag 14 juni 2005 21:43 schreef Roel_Jewel het volgende:
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nou, het wordt wel duidelijk nuquote:Op dinsdag 14 juni 2005 21:43 schreef Roel_Jewel het volgende:
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[i]"you left me standing here, a long long time ago"[/i]
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159470,00.html :
Dus.quote:Investigators in Aruba began searching Tuesday in an area near the island's hotel district following a new tip in the mystery surrounding Natalee Holloway (search).
A boy who found a pair of women's underpants, used condoms and condom wrappers near a small pond in the Palm Beach area north of the Alabama teenager's hotel phoned his find in to police.
Authorities said the area was a popular hangout among teens and that the items were nothing unusual, but a dearth of clues to Holloway's whereabouts was prompting police to follow every lead.
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005
ook wel lullig trouwens, maar goed.
die knullen hebben Joran dus alleen achtergelaten met haar, is het laatste verhaal
ook wel lullig trouwens, maar goed.
die knullen hebben Joran dus alleen achtergelaten met haar, is het laatste verhaal
[i]"you left me standing here, a long long time ago"[/i]
Wat logisch is, als je wilt gaan sexen.quote:Op dinsdag 14 juni 2005 21:59 schreef milagro het volgende:
die knullen hebben Joran dus alleen achtergelaten met haar, is het laatste verhaal
What are you going to do to me? You go fuck yourself - I say what I want.
- Oriana Fallaci 1929-2006
- Oriana Fallaci 1929-2006
nee hoor, niet persé.quote:Op dinsdag 14 juni 2005 22:03 schreef PJORourke het volgende:
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Wat logisch is, als je wilt gaan sexen.
[i]"you left me standing here, a long long time ago"[/i]
"NATALEE WAS NOT THE GIRL WHO WAS SICK IN THE BATHROOM AT C&C's! My daughter had already told me she was puzzled by that story 'cause she neither saw nor heard anything of the kind regarding Natalee. We were at the vigil yesterday and they were discussing that... It turned out to be other girls on the trip. Somebody had mentioned that at church and these girls went, "Oh no! That was US!" It was definitely not Natalee.
My daughter spoke with Natalee right after C&C's closed.
My daughter & her friends came across Nat & Joran as all were exiting the club, and all were walking more or less together toward another group of classmates.
Natalee was walking unassisted (not falling down drunk), spoke ok (though not answering in long sentences), and was not touching Joran. My daughter only noticed that Joran was tall, dark-haired, American-looking; he did not speak and she couldn't read his facial expressions.
Nat turned down my daughter's invitation to go with her little group. (Ironically, they were about to circle the inside of another club to make sure no others were left behind.)
Nat assured them that she was fine, and said she was going to go back to the hotel "with THEM," pointing to the MBHS group just a few yards ahead.
The Kalpoes were nowhere in sight; neither was the car.
Next Alana heard was that Natalee got into a car that many in the group had thought was a taxi. (Those look like regular cars.)
It may be that the Kalpoes pulled up on the street before Natalee reached the next group; Joran may have deliberately stalled her. The group may not have even realized she was behind them, approaching. But while we hear that she got in the car willingly, we know from her comments that it was not her pre-planned intention.
Because of this, I do not believe she knew she would be going anywhere but a fairly short distance down to the hotel. Her plans changed in the blink of an eye, and she was gone."
My daughter spoke with Natalee right after C&C's closed.
My daughter & her friends came across Nat & Joran as all were exiting the club, and all were walking more or less together toward another group of classmates.
Natalee was walking unassisted (not falling down drunk), spoke ok (though not answering in long sentences), and was not touching Joran. My daughter only noticed that Joran was tall, dark-haired, American-looking; he did not speak and she couldn't read his facial expressions.
Nat turned down my daughter's invitation to go with her little group. (Ironically, they were about to circle the inside of another club to make sure no others were left behind.)
Nat assured them that she was fine, and said she was going to go back to the hotel "with THEM," pointing to the MBHS group just a few yards ahead.
The Kalpoes were nowhere in sight; neither was the car.
Next Alana heard was that Natalee got into a car that many in the group had thought was a taxi. (Those look like regular cars.)
It may be that the Kalpoes pulled up on the street before Natalee reached the next group; Joran may have deliberately stalled her. The group may not have even realized she was behind them, approaching. But while we hear that she got in the car willingly, we know from her comments that it was not her pre-planned intention.
Because of this, I do not believe she knew she would be going anywhere but a fairly short distance down to the hotel. Her plans changed in the blink of an eye, and she was gone."
sad but true...quote:Op dinsdag 14 juni 2005 22:11 schreef halion het volgende:
and she was gone."
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Ik las net wel ergens dat de plaats waar panties and condoms gevonden zijn, een lovers place schijnt te zijn. Bovendien werden de panties getoond en schenen ze niet van Natalee's formaat te zijn...Dubieus allemaal.quote:Op dinsdag 14 juni 2005 21:43 schreef Roel_Jewel het volgende:
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Ach, de vondst van panties en condooms bij the Fishermans' huts is niet bijzonder. Ook daar is het lekker rustig, als je begrijpt wat ik bedoel.
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/14/missing.teen/index.html :
quote:Aruba police scour beach in missing case
A search near an Aruba beachfront hotel that began in the afternoon ended Tuesday night with apparently no sign of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway, the Alabama student missing since May 30.
Investigators late Tuesday took down barricades and cordons that had been up for five and a half hours while searchers combed the area.
A source close to the probe said search participants included five FBI agents and a search dog from Miami-Dade County, Florida, in addition to Aruban police.
The area -- about 500 yards long and 150 yards wide -- contains mangroves, scrub brush and drainage ditches.
A fire truck brought in a pump that was used to drain parts of the property, which is sandwiched between the main highway that goes around the coast and the beach area next to the Marriott Hotel.
The area is known as a "lover's lane" for romantic couples.
Three young men are in jail and have been undergoing questioning. They were the last people reported seen with Holloway. None has been formally charged.
Police have identified them as brothers Satish Kalpoe, 18, and Depak Kalpoe, 21, and their friend, Joran Van Der Sloot, 17, the son of an Aruban judge.
"The boys continue to point fingers at each other," the source said, but their attorneys said their clients are innocent.
"My client is maintaining that he is innocent and that he did not commit any crime," said Antonio Carlo, the attorney for Van Der Sloot.
Aruba government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg said he didn't know what prompted Tuesday's search.
"People have gone over the area [before] but not as intensely as this time," Trapenberg said, adding that every part of the island was being checked.
He said Aruba requested and had received additional technical assistance from Dutch and U.S. authorities, but didn't elaborate.
Holloway, from the Birmingham suburb of Mountain Brook, has been missing more than two weeks. She was on a trip to Aruba with classmates and parent chaperones to celebrate her high school graduation.
The Kalpoes and Ver Der Sloot reportedly told police they took Holloway to a beach after leaving an Oranjestad nightclub with her early May 30. They said they returned her to her hotel, the Holiday Inn, not long afterward.
On Monday, authorities released two security guards arrested in connection with her disappearance.
Abraham Jones, 28, and Mickey John, 30, who work at a hotel near where the teen was staying, were arrested in the case June 5 but were never charged.
After his release, John said Depak Kalpoe confided to him while they were in jail together that he had lied to police. John said Kalpoe also apologized for getting Jones and him into "that mess." (CNN Access)
"He [Depak] told me that the story about dropping the girl off at the Holiday Inn was all made up," John said, adding that Kalpoe told him he and his brother dropped Van Der Sloot and Holloway off near a Marriott hotel and then went home.
The area searched Tuesday is near the Marriott, about a mile from the Holiday Inn where Holloway was staying.
John said Kalpoe told him the brothers figured Holloway would turn up "a few days after, in some crack house or beach bar."
He said Tuesday that Kalpoe should be more forthright with investigators.
"I think he's holding back something," John told CNN, describing Kalpoe as "very calm at all times."
The source close to the probe said the FBI has been briefing Holloway's parents in Aruba, and Holloway's mother said Tuesday she believes the investigation is moving forward.
"I feel like that we are working in a collaborative effort," Beth Holloway Twitty told CNN's "American Morning."
"From the family to the FBI to the local authorities to the Aruban government to the U.S. government, I feel like we are all in this investigation, and I do feel like we are beginning to proceed forward. ... That's where I want to go because that will help us find our daughter."
Twitty and her husband remain in Aruba, vowing not to leave the Caribbean island off Venezuela without Holloway.
"Some days, they are agonizing," Twitty said. "They are so difficult. And some days, I have the deepest hurt that anyone could ever imagine."
She said she wasn't aware of John's allegations that one of the three in custody told him he had lied to police.
"The best thing that we have to do is to allow the proper authorities now to do their investigation," Twitty said. "This is their expertise, and I feel the assurance and trust that we are moving in the right direction."
Aruban Prime Minister Nelson Oduber has said his government "is doing the utmost" to find Holloway.
"We hope that we will find Natalee Holloway alive and are still praying that there is nothing bad that has happened to her," Oduber said Sunday.
While expressing concern about Holloway, Oduber also sought to reassure the media that the island is safe for visitors, noting that more than 60 percent of its income comes from tourism and more than 45,000 Arubans work in that industry.
"That's why we make an appeal to our local press and international press that the government and everybody involved will do the job," he said.
leuke amerikaanse quote over uitlevering:
Forget extradition. I say we invite the three to visit the United States in the same manner that the Israelis invited Adolph Eichman to visit Jerusalem.
Then they could be taken to the 50 yard line and their names announced at half time of the Alabama/Auburn football game.
Forget extradition. I say we invite the three to visit the United States in the same manner that the Israelis invited Adolph Eichman to visit Jerusalem.
Then they could be taken to the 50 yard line and their names announced at half time of the Alabama/Auburn football game.
Nasty verhaal dit.
Heeft die Joran een gangbang sextape met een 15-jarige gemaakt?
Heeft die Joran een gangbang sextape met een 15-jarige gemaakt?
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
Je zou zeggen, dat het toch niet zo "lastig" moet zijn haar lichaam te vinden, aannemende dat ze niet mee leeft.
Het is op een relatief klein stuk gebeurd wat er ook gebeurd is en om een lichaam zo te verbergen dat niemand het ondanks vindt, heb je toch wel wat tijd voor nodig, en ik neem aan dat die knullen niet de hele nacht op sjouw waren, dat zullen ze nu toch wel hebben kunnen bevestigen of ontkrachten.
Je zou denken dan,dat ze ergens inhet water gevallen, geduwd, gelegd is en de zee haar lichaam meegenomen heeft...
Het is op een relatief klein stuk gebeurd wat er ook gebeurd is en om een lichaam zo te verbergen dat niemand het ondanks vindt, heb je toch wel wat tijd voor nodig, en ik neem aan dat die knullen niet de hele nacht op sjouw waren, dat zullen ze nu toch wel hebben kunnen bevestigen of ontkrachten.
Je zou denken dan,dat ze ergens inhet water gevallen, geduwd, gelegd is en de zee haar lichaam meegenomen heeft...
[i]"you left me standing here, a long long time ago"[/i]
dan zou ze wel weer aanspoelen,quote:Op woensdag 15 juni 2005 09:00 schreef milagro het volgende:
Je zou zeggen, dat het toch niet zo "lastig" moet zijn haar lichaam te vinden, aannemende dat ze niet mee leeft.
Het is op een relatief klein stuk gebeurd wat er ook gebeurd is en om een lichaam zo te verbergen dat niemand het ondanks vindt, heb je toch wel wat tijd voor nodig, en ik neem aan dat die knullen niet de hele nacht op sjouw waren, dat zullen ze nu toch wel hebben kunnen bevestigen of ontkrachten.
Je zou denken dan,dat ze ergens inhet water gevallen, geduwd, gelegd is en de zee haar lichaam meegenomen heeft...
ik denk dat haar lichaam op de avond van verdwijning al per boot is vervoerd richting Venezuela. Levend of niet.
Misschien al gepost, zijn websiteje:
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050612111255
En die van zn broer:
http://connect.tickle.com(...)OsYehl-uFlCknKIHmkUV
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050612111255
En die van zn broer:
http://connect.tickle.com(...)OsYehl-uFlCknKIHmkUV
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
na verloop van tijd, ja zou het aanspoelen.quote:Op woensdag 15 juni 2005 09:04 schreef halion het volgende:
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dan zou ze wel weer aanspoelen,
ik denk dat haar lichaam op de avond van verdwijning al per boot is vervoerd richting Venezuela. Levend of niet.
[i]"you left me standing here, a long long time ago"[/i]
Bron.quote:Aruba police scour beach in missing case
Released security guard says detainee admitted lying to police
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 Posted: 12:47 AM EDT (0447 GMT)
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) -- A search near an Aruba beachfront hotel that began in the afternoon ended Tuesday night with apparently no sign of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway, the Alabama student missing since May 30.
Investigators late Tuesday took down barricades and cordons that had been up for five and a half hours while searchers combed the area.
A source close to the probe said search participants included five FBI agents and a search dog from Miami-Dade County, Florida, in addition to Aruban police.
The area -- about 500 yards long and 150 yards wide -- contains mangroves, scrub brush and drainage ditches.
A fire truck brought in a pump that was used to drain parts of the property, which is sandwiched between the main highway that goes around the coast and the beach area next to the Marriott Hotel.
The area is known as a "lover's lane" for romantic couples.
Three young men are in jail and have been undergoing questioning. They were the last people reported seen with Holloway. None has been formally charged.
Police have identified them as brothers Satish Kalpoe, 18, and Depak Kalpoe, 21, and their friend, Joran Van Der Sloot, 17, the son of an Aruban judge.
"The boys continue to point fingers at each other," the source said, but their attorneys said their clients are innocent.
"My client is maintaining that he is innocent and that he did not commit any crime," said Antonio Carlo, the attorney for Van Der Sloot.
Aruba government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg said he didn't know what prompted Tuesday's search.
"People have gone over the area [before] but not as intensely as this time," Trapenberg said, adding that every part of the island was being checked.
He said Aruba requested and had received additional technical assistance from Dutch and U.S. authorities, but didn't elaborate.
Holloway, from the Birmingham suburb of Mountain Brook, has been missing more than two weeks. She was on a trip to Aruba with classmates and parent chaperones to celebrate her high school graduation.
The Kalpoes and Ver Der Sloot reportedly told police they took Holloway to a beach after leaving an Oranjestad nightclub with her early May 30. They said they returned her to her hotel, the Holiday Inn, not long afterward.
On Monday, authorities released two security guards arrested in connection with her disappearance.
Abraham Jones, 28, and Mickey John, 30, who work at a hotel near where the teen was staying, were arrested in the case June 5 but were never charged.
After his release, John said Depak Kalpoe confided to him while they were in jail together that he had lied to police. John said Kalpoe also apologized for getting Jones and him into "that mess." (CNN Access)
"He [Depak] told me that the story about dropping the girl off at the Holiday Inn was all made up," John said, adding that Kalpoe told him he and his brother dropped Van Der Sloot and Holloway off near a Marriott hotel and then went home.
The area searched Tuesday is near the Marriott, about a mile from the Holiday Inn where Holloway was staying.
John said Kalpoe told him the brothers figured Holloway would turn up "a few days after, in some crack house or beach bar."
He said Tuesday that Kalpoe should be more forthright with investigators.
"I think he's holding back something," John told CNN, describing Kalpoe as "very calm at all times."
The source close to the probe said the FBI has been briefing Holloway's parents in Aruba, and Holloway's mother said Tuesday she believes the investigation is moving forward.
"I feel like that we are working in a collaborative effort," Beth Holloway Twitty told CNN's "American Morning."
"From the family to the FBI to the local authorities to the Aruban government to the U.S. government, I feel like we are all in this investigation, and I do feel like we are beginning to proceed forward. ... That's where I want to go because that will help us find our daughter."
Twitty and her husband remain in Aruba, vowing not to leave the Caribbean island off Venezuela without Holloway.
"Some days, they are agonizing," Twitty said. "They are so difficult. And some days, I have the deepest hurt that anyone could ever imagine."
She said she wasn't aware of John's allegations that one of the three in custody told him he had lied to police.
"The best thing that we have to do is to allow the proper authorities now to do their investigation," Twitty said. "This is their expertise, and I feel the assurance and trust that we are moving in the right direction."
Aruban Prime Minister Nelson Oduber has said his government "is doing the utmost" to find Holloway.
"We hope that we will find Natalee Holloway alive and are still praying that there is nothing bad that has happened to her," Oduber said Sunday.
While expressing concern about Holloway, Oduber also sought to reassure the media that the island is safe for visitors, noting that more than 60 percent of its income comes from tourism and more than 45,000 Arubans work in that industry.
"That's why we make an appeal to our local press and international press that the government and everybody involved will do the job," he said.
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
Ah Sorry, was me even ontgaan.quote:Op woensdag 15 juni 2005 10:04 schreef Roel_Jewel het volgende:
Dat bericht had ik hierboven ook al geplaatst ja ....
As the officer took her away, she recalled that she asked,
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
"Why do you push us around?"
And she remembered him saying,
"I don't know, but the law's the law, and you're under arrest."
Joran met pappie the wannabe judge en mammie the teacher:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=686609&postcount=156
schattig hoor
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=686609&postcount=156
schattig hoor
interview met een van de security guards, volgens de kijkers kijkt hij naar beneden als hem iets gevraagd wordt. kan iemand dit bevestigen? kan momenteel geen video bekijken:
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player05.html?061405/usw_aruba_john_061405&FNL&Caribbean%20Mystery&acc&U
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player05.html?061405/usw_aruba_john_061405&FNL&Caribbean%20Mystery&acc&U
Die Amerikanen zijn er ook maar druk mee Moet je dat forum zien: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=60
Een paar Amerikanen denken dat dingen worden achtergehouden om Joran te beschermen. Maar de rechtspraak op Aruba is toch gewoon te vergelijken met die in Nederland
Moet je dat forum zien: Een paar Amerikanen denken dat dingen worden achtergehouden om Joran te beschermen. Maar de rechtspraak op Aruba is toch gewoon te vergelijken met die in Nederland
