Haha foutje, ik bedoelde "Oranjestad". Die heb je in Aruba en St.Eustatius. Telegraaf.....quote:
In de Telegraaf van 9 juni stond gewoon Oranjestad, volgens mij is het fout overgenomen hier zoquote:Op maandag 13 juni 2005 11:01 schreef Choller het volgende:
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Haha foutje, ik bedoelde "Oranjestad". Die heb je in Aruba en St.Eustatius. Telegraaf.....
FoxNewsquote:Three Suspects in Holloway Case Change Stories
Monday, June 13, 2005
ORANJESTAD, Aruba — Cracks have emerged in the stories of three young suspects in the case of Natalee Holloway (search), the American teen who vanished in Aruba two weeks ago, FOX News has learned.
The three young men have reportedly changed their stories since being moved to separate jail cells, Chris Lejuez, the lawyer for one of two other men being held in the case, told FOX News.
One of the trio detained since June 9, the Dutch son of a judicial official, is now saying that his two Surinamese friends — who are brothers — dropped him off at his house after he exchanged e-mail addresses with Holloway and said goodnight, Lejuez said.
The brothers have also changed their story, now saying they left their friend with Holloway at the beach that night, FOX has learned.
The Dutch teenager, 17-year-old Joran Van Der Sloot (search), and the Surinamese brothers, 18-year-old Satish Kalpoe (search) and 21-year-old Deepak Kalpoe (search), originally told police they brought Holloway to a lighthouse beside the island's Arisha Beach, but didn't get out of the car.
The Kalpoe brothers also told police that Holloway and Van Der Sloot were kissing passionately in the back seat of the car. They said they dropped her off at her hotel about 2 a.m. and last saw her being approached by a black man in a black security guard uniform before they drove off, a lawyer for the brothers has said.
Psies. En zouden die gastjes nu nog echt denken dat ze eronder uit komen (als ze die meid vermoord zouden hebben)?quote:Op maandag 13 juni 2005 21:15 schreef _Boo_ het volgende:
Ze worden in ieder geval overduidelijk tegen elkaar uitgespeeld, maar het wordt ook tijd dat er wat duidelijkheid komt. Het is inmiddels alweer 2 weken geleden.
Dat is in ieder geval wel wat heel Amerika denkt.quote:Op maandag 13 juni 2005 21:17 schreef milagro het volgende:
Denken jullie dat een en ander ook zo lang onduidelijk blijft (de warrige berichtgeving o.a.) omdat het een zoon van een (invloedrijk?) rechter betreft?
Zou er meer discretie zijn nu het rijke luis zoontje is, als wanneer het een of andere 'sloeber' was geweest?
Of werkt dat ook op Aruba niet zo?
Nu ja, het zou kunnen verklaren waren die jongens, aannemende dat, denken er mee weg te komen, en gewoon een lulverhaal op hangen, pure arrogantie ms.quote:Op maandag 13 juni 2005 21:22 schreef _Boo_ het volgende:
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Dat is in ieder geval wel wat heel Amerika denkt.
Ik heb er persoonlijk iets meer vertrouwen in.
Als ze haar daadwerkelijk vermoord hebben, dan denk ik dat het niet met voorbedachte rade is geweest maar dat het compleet uit de hand gelopen is. Maar dan nog kunnen ze nu beter bekennen.quote:Op maandag 13 juni 2005 21:18 schreef Roel_Jewel het volgende:
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Psies. En zouden die gastjes nu nog echt denken dat ze eronder uit komen (als ze die meid vermoord zouden hebben)?
Een van de reacties:quote:Op maandag 13 juni 2005 21:22 schreef _Boo_ het volgende:
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Dat is in ieder geval wel wat heel Amerika denkt.
Echt om te kotsen dat superioriteitsgevoel van sommige Amerikanen....quote:let's face it these authorities based on what we know could not do security at Walmart
quote:Aruba releases two security guards
Authorities in Aruba have released two security guards arrested in the disappearance of an Alabama teen late last month.
Abraham Jones, 28, and Mickey John, 30, who work at a beachfront hotel near where Natalee Holloway was staying, were arrested in the case on June 5 but were never charged.
Holloway, 18, was discovered missing May 30. Three men remain in custody in the case -- none of them formally charged as yet.
Police have identified the three men still in custody as brothers Satish Kalpoe, 18, and Depak Kalpoe, 21, and their friend, Joran Van Der Sloot, 17, the son of an Aruban judge. The attorneys for each have said their client claims innocence.
The three young men told police they took Holloway to a beach after leaving an Oranjestad nightclub with her early May 30, when she was last seen. They said they returned her to her hotel not long afterward.
Holloway, from the Birmingham, Alabama, suburb of Mountain Brook, was in Aruba with classmates who were celebrating their graduation from high school.
On Sunday, law enforcement sources close to the investigation said a substance found in a Honda seized after three of the men were arrested Thursday is not blood, based on a sample analyzed at an FBI laboratory in Quantico, Virginia.
On Monday, Prime Minister Nelson Oduber said Aruba's government "is doing the utmost" to find Holloway.
"We hope that we will find Natalee Holloway alive, and are still praying that there is nothing bad that has happened to her," Oduber said Sunday.
Holloway's mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, told The Associated Press on Sunday that she believes the three young men still being held in the case "know what happened to her." She also said the two security guards should be released. (Full story)
While expressing "deep concern" over Holloway's fate, Oduber also sought to reassure the media that the island is safe for visitors, noting that more than 60 percent of Aruba's income comes from tourism and more than 45,000 Arubans work in that industry.
"That's why we make an appeal to our local press and international press that the government and everybody involved will do the job," he said.
The search for Holloway was scaled back during the weekend, with teams venturing out only after receiving credible tips and coast guard patrols off shore
Dan is ze denk ik in een speedboat meegenomen naar Venezuela om daar in de prostitutie te belanden.quote:Op dinsdag 14 juni 2005 11:42 schreef Rewimo het volgende:
Geen bloed in de auto dus. Het blijft toch raadselachtig allemaal. Het is afwachten tot het meisje gevonden wordt...
Stel nou dat die drie jongens de waarheid spreken en haar niets aangedaan hebben. Wat zou er dan nog gebeurd kunnen zijn? Die twee bewakers worden kennelijk niet meer verdacht.
quote:Op dinsdag 14 juni 2005 20:48 schreef halion het volgende:
Authorities have found something at the Marriott location in Aruba - on all news.
quote:Aruba police start new search in beach area for missing teen
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — Nearly three dozen police officers launched a search Tuesday along a beach near the Marriott Hotel for Natalee Holloway after a former security guard alleged that one of three youths seen with the missing teenager had lied to police.
Antonius "Mickey" John said he was detained in a cell adjacent to one of the young men, 21-year-old Deepak Kalpoe, and that the two spent time talking.
John, 30, said Kalpoe told him that he and his 18-year-old brother, Satish, and their 17-year-old Dutch friend never went back to the Holiday Inn the morning of May 30, the day Holloway disappeared on this Dutch Caribbean island during a student trip.
Kalpoe said they instead dropped the Dutch youth and Holloway off near the Marriott, located just north of the Holiday Inn, on the same beach.
Police cordoned off a three-block area near the Marriott, and government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg confirmed it was yet another search for the 18-year-old from Mountain Brook, Ala., High School.
"Investigators may be following up leads from what was said this morning," he said, referring to John's comments. "They probably need to check all those things out."
No one has been charged, and lawyers for the three men still in custody and the two freed men all say their clients are innocent.
Holloway vanished early May 30, hours before she was expected at the airport to return home after a five-day vacation with 124 classmates and seven chaperones celebrating graduation from Mountain Brook, Ala., High School. Her U.S. passport and packed bags were found in her room.
Hundreds of islanders and tourists have volunteered in daily searches for Holloway, whose plight has shocked residents in one of the safest destinations in the region. One murder and six rapes were recorded last year on the island of 97,000 people. This year there have been two murders and three rapes.
Dat jochie rechtsachter op de eerste foto is echt een onwijze kneus. Zat bij mij op de voetbalclub; ik heb hem nog wel eens een paar klappen verkocht.quote:Op dinsdag 14 juni 2005 21:12 schreef halion het volgende:
here some more pictures of our little motherfucker:
http://www.martin.isnw.org/lekkerdoelloos/paginas/joran.html
hahahaquote:Op dinsdag 14 juni 2005 21:27 schreef heiden6 het volgende:
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Dat jochie rechtsachter op de eerste foto is echt een onwijze kneus. Zat bij mij op de voetbalclub; ik heb hem nog wel eens een paar klappen verkocht.
Het wordt nu toch wel eens tijd voor wat tekst en uitleg van Rudy, lijkt me zo.
quote:More
Update:
police confirm the following have been found at the search scene: Women’s underwear
Condoms
Pieces of duct tape
Micky John declared yesterday that the two brothers confessed to him.
After leaving Arashi /Lighthouse, they left Natalee with Joran at Fisher's mans hut a beach close to the Hyatt. They went to swim at that beach.
That was the last time they saw Natalee. They went home and went to the internet to chat. After one hour, they received a message from Joran that stated: "I have something to tell you"
This was statement of Micky John, detainee, that helped to secure his freedom yesterday.
holy fuckquote:Op dinsdag 14 juni 2005 21:43 schreef Roel_Jewel het volgende:
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nou, het wordt wel duidelijk nuquote:Op dinsdag 14 juni 2005 21:43 schreef Roel_Jewel het volgende:
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Dus.quote:Investigators in Aruba began searching Tuesday in an area near the island's hotel district following a new tip in the mystery surrounding Natalee Holloway (search).
A boy who found a pair of women's underpants, used condoms and condom wrappers near a small pond in the Palm Beach area north of the Alabama teenager's hotel phoned his find in to police.
Authorities said the area was a popular hangout among teens and that the items were nothing unusual, but a dearth of clues to Holloway's whereabouts was prompting police to follow every lead.
Wat logisch is, als je wilt gaan sexen.quote:Op dinsdag 14 juni 2005 21:59 schreef milagro het volgende:
die knullen hebben Joran dus alleen achtergelaten met haar, is het laatste verhaal
nee hoor, niet persé.quote:Op dinsdag 14 juni 2005 22:03 schreef PJORourke het volgende:
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Wat logisch is, als je wilt gaan sexen.
sad but true...quote:Op dinsdag 14 juni 2005 22:11 schreef halion het volgende:
and she was gone."
Ik las net wel ergens dat de plaats waar panties and condoms gevonden zijn, een lovers place schijnt te zijn. Bovendien werden de panties getoond en schenen ze niet van Natalee's formaat te zijn...Dubieus allemaal.quote:Op dinsdag 14 juni 2005 21:43 schreef Roel_Jewel het volgende:
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quote:Aruba police scour beach in missing case
A search near an Aruba beachfront hotel that began in the afternoon ended Tuesday night with apparently no sign of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway, the Alabama student missing since May 30.
Investigators late Tuesday took down barricades and cordons that had been up for five and a half hours while searchers combed the area.
A source close to the probe said search participants included five FBI agents and a search dog from Miami-Dade County, Florida, in addition to Aruban police.
The area -- about 500 yards long and 150 yards wide -- contains mangroves, scrub brush and drainage ditches.
A fire truck brought in a pump that was used to drain parts of the property, which is sandwiched between the main highway that goes around the coast and the beach area next to the Marriott Hotel.
The area is known as a "lover's lane" for romantic couples.
Three young men are in jail and have been undergoing questioning. They were the last people reported seen with Holloway. None has been formally charged.
Police have identified them as brothers Satish Kalpoe, 18, and Depak Kalpoe, 21, and their friend, Joran Van Der Sloot, 17, the son of an Aruban judge.
"The boys continue to point fingers at each other," the source said, but their attorneys said their clients are innocent.
"My client is maintaining that he is innocent and that he did not commit any crime," said Antonio Carlo, the attorney for Van Der Sloot.
Aruba government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg said he didn't know what prompted Tuesday's search.
"People have gone over the area [before] but not as intensely as this time," Trapenberg said, adding that every part of the island was being checked.
He said Aruba requested and had received additional technical assistance from Dutch and U.S. authorities, but didn't elaborate.
Holloway, from the Birmingham suburb of Mountain Brook, has been missing more than two weeks. She was on a trip to Aruba with classmates and parent chaperones to celebrate her high school graduation.
The Kalpoes and Ver Der Sloot reportedly told police they took Holloway to a beach after leaving an Oranjestad nightclub with her early May 30. They said they returned her to her hotel, the Holiday Inn, not long afterward.
On Monday, authorities released two security guards arrested in connection with her disappearance.
Abraham Jones, 28, and Mickey John, 30, who work at a hotel near where the teen was staying, were arrested in the case June 5 but were never charged.
After his release, John said Depak Kalpoe confided to him while they were in jail together that he had lied to police. John said Kalpoe also apologized for getting Jones and him into "that mess." (CNN Access)
"He [Depak] told me that the story about dropping the girl off at the Holiday Inn was all made up," John said, adding that Kalpoe told him he and his brother dropped Van Der Sloot and Holloway off near a Marriott hotel and then went home.
The area searched Tuesday is near the Marriott, about a mile from the Holiday Inn where Holloway was staying.
John said Kalpoe told him the brothers figured Holloway would turn up "a few days after, in some crack house or beach bar."
He said Tuesday that Kalpoe should be more forthright with investigators.
"I think he's holding back something," John told CNN, describing Kalpoe as "very calm at all times."
The source close to the probe said the FBI has been briefing Holloway's parents in Aruba, and Holloway's mother said Tuesday she believes the investigation is moving forward.
"I feel like that we are working in a collaborative effort," Beth Holloway Twitty told CNN's "American Morning."
"From the family to the FBI to the local authorities to the Aruban government to the U.S. government, I feel like we are all in this investigation, and I do feel like we are beginning to proceed forward. ... That's where I want to go because that will help us find our daughter."
Twitty and her husband remain in Aruba, vowing not to leave the Caribbean island off Venezuela without Holloway.
"Some days, they are agonizing," Twitty said. "They are so difficult. And some days, I have the deepest hurt that anyone could ever imagine."
She said she wasn't aware of John's allegations that one of the three in custody told him he had lied to police.
"The best thing that we have to do is to allow the proper authorities now to do their investigation," Twitty said. "This is their expertise, and I feel the assurance and trust that we are moving in the right direction."
Aruban Prime Minister Nelson Oduber has said his government "is doing the utmost" to find Holloway.
"We hope that we will find Natalee Holloway alive and are still praying that there is nothing bad that has happened to her," Oduber said Sunday.
While expressing concern about Holloway, Oduber also sought to reassure the media that the island is safe for visitors, noting that more than 60 percent of its income comes from tourism and more than 45,000 Arubans work in that industry.
"That's why we make an appeal to our local press and international press that the government and everybody involved will do the job," he said.
dan zou ze wel weer aanspoelen,quote:Op woensdag 15 juni 2005 09:00 schreef milagro het volgende:
Je zou zeggen, dat het toch niet zo "lastig" moet zijn haar lichaam te vinden, aannemende dat ze niet mee leeft.
Het is op een relatief klein stuk gebeurd wat er ook gebeurd is en om een lichaam zo te verbergen dat niemand het ondanks vindt, heb je toch wel wat tijd voor nodig, en ik neem aan dat die knullen niet de hele nacht op sjouw waren, dat zullen ze nu toch wel hebben kunnen bevestigen of ontkrachten.
Je zou denken dan,dat ze ergens inhet water gevallen, geduwd, gelegd is en de zee haar lichaam meegenomen heeft...
na verloop van tijd, ja zou het aanspoelen.quote:Op woensdag 15 juni 2005 09:04 schreef halion het volgende:
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dan zou ze wel weer aanspoelen,
ik denk dat haar lichaam op de avond van verdwijning al per boot is vervoerd richting Venezuela. Levend of niet.
Bron.quote:Aruba police scour beach in missing case
Released security guard says detainee admitted lying to police
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 Posted: 12:47 AM EDT (0447 GMT)
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (CNN) -- A search near an Aruba beachfront hotel that began in the afternoon ended Tuesday night with apparently no sign of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway, the Alabama student missing since May 30.
Investigators late Tuesday took down barricades and cordons that had been up for five and a half hours while searchers combed the area.
A source close to the probe said search participants included five FBI agents and a search dog from Miami-Dade County, Florida, in addition to Aruban police.
The area -- about 500 yards long and 150 yards wide -- contains mangroves, scrub brush and drainage ditches.
A fire truck brought in a pump that was used to drain parts of the property, which is sandwiched between the main highway that goes around the coast and the beach area next to the Marriott Hotel.
The area is known as a "lover's lane" for romantic couples.
Three young men are in jail and have been undergoing questioning. They were the last people reported seen with Holloway. None has been formally charged.
Police have identified them as brothers Satish Kalpoe, 18, and Depak Kalpoe, 21, and their friend, Joran Van Der Sloot, 17, the son of an Aruban judge.
"The boys continue to point fingers at each other," the source said, but their attorneys said their clients are innocent.
"My client is maintaining that he is innocent and that he did not commit any crime," said Antonio Carlo, the attorney for Van Der Sloot.
Aruba government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg said he didn't know what prompted Tuesday's search.
"People have gone over the area [before] but not as intensely as this time," Trapenberg said, adding that every part of the island was being checked.
He said Aruba requested and had received additional technical assistance from Dutch and U.S. authorities, but didn't elaborate.
Holloway, from the Birmingham suburb of Mountain Brook, has been missing more than two weeks. She was on a trip to Aruba with classmates and parent chaperones to celebrate her high school graduation.
The Kalpoes and Ver Der Sloot reportedly told police they took Holloway to a beach after leaving an Oranjestad nightclub with her early May 30. They said they returned her to her hotel, the Holiday Inn, not long afterward.
On Monday, authorities released two security guards arrested in connection with her disappearance.
Abraham Jones, 28, and Mickey John, 30, who work at a hotel near where the teen was staying, were arrested in the case June 5 but were never charged.
After his release, John said Depak Kalpoe confided to him while they were in jail together that he had lied to police. John said Kalpoe also apologized for getting Jones and him into "that mess." (CNN Access)
"He [Depak] told me that the story about dropping the girl off at the Holiday Inn was all made up," John said, adding that Kalpoe told him he and his brother dropped Van Der Sloot and Holloway off near a Marriott hotel and then went home.
The area searched Tuesday is near the Marriott, about a mile from the Holiday Inn where Holloway was staying.
John said Kalpoe told him the brothers figured Holloway would turn up "a few days after, in some crack house or beach bar."
He said Tuesday that Kalpoe should be more forthright with investigators.
"I think he's holding back something," John told CNN, describing Kalpoe as "very calm at all times."
The source close to the probe said the FBI has been briefing Holloway's parents in Aruba, and Holloway's mother said Tuesday she believes the investigation is moving forward.
"I feel like that we are working in a collaborative effort," Beth Holloway Twitty told CNN's "American Morning."
"From the family to the FBI to the local authorities to the Aruban government to the U.S. government, I feel like we are all in this investigation, and I do feel like we are beginning to proceed forward. ... That's where I want to go because that will help us find our daughter."
Twitty and her husband remain in Aruba, vowing not to leave the Caribbean island off Venezuela without Holloway.
"Some days, they are agonizing," Twitty said. "They are so difficult. And some days, I have the deepest hurt that anyone could ever imagine."
She said she wasn't aware of John's allegations that one of the three in custody told him he had lied to police.
"The best thing that we have to do is to allow the proper authorities now to do their investigation," Twitty said. "This is their expertise, and I feel the assurance and trust that we are moving in the right direction."
Aruban Prime Minister Nelson Oduber has said his government "is doing the utmost" to find Holloway.
"We hope that we will find Natalee Holloway alive and are still praying that there is nothing bad that has happened to her," Oduber said Sunday.
While expressing concern about Holloway, Oduber also sought to reassure the media that the island is safe for visitors, noting that more than 60 percent of its income comes from tourism and more than 45,000 Arubans work in that industry.
"That's why we make an appeal to our local press and international press that the government and everybody involved will do the job," he said.
Ah Sorry, was me even ontgaan.quote:Op woensdag 15 juni 2005 10:04 schreef Roel_Jewel het volgende:
Dat bericht had ik hierboven ook al geplaatst ja ....
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