[XBOX]FORZA MOTORSPORT...

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2005 17:27 schreef kepler het volgende:

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heb ik tot nu toe weinig last van, ze maken vaak genoeg een foutje

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2005 18:04 schreef DinoPK het volgende:
(mijn drivatar was niet goed genoeg om die races te winnen dus ik moet wel).

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2005 18:12 schreef kepler het volgende:

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dat zeker, al kan ik me af en toe flink irriteren als ik weer door een tikje achterstevoren sta

ik heb ook het idee dat als jij normaal rijdt, dat de AI dan ook normaal rijdt. Of klopt dat niet?

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2005 18:54 schreef twi het volgende:
Al steken mensen de disc ritueel in de fik na er een grote stomende drol op gelegd te hebben, waarom maken anderen zich daar zo druk over?

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2005 19:41 schreef DinoPK het volgende:
Diegenen die afgeven op die drivatar's hebben de races waar ik het over heb vast nog niet geprobeerd. Ga voor de lol maar eens de Shelby Cobra en Tuscan S races doen in professional, de corvette races zijn er niets bij aangezien je daar wel een opgevoerde bak hebt..
Sorry hoor, maar na 3 uur frustratie heb ik er soms ook wel eens genoeg van. Mijn drivatar heeft tot nu toe pas 2 races voor mij gereden, big deal. Dit spel is af en toe zo ontiegelijk moeilijk dat het een aanvulling kan zijn. Voor de credits hoef je het niet te doen.

Als je wilt zeiken, zeik dan op mensen die met hun racelijn en assistjes aanrijden.

/level 42.

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Op dinsdag 24 mei 2005 20:04 schreef DinoPK het volgende:
Bastard: hoever ben jij nu dan.... ik wil wel eens horen wat je zegt als je net zover bent als ik. Niet kunnen rijden, kom op man.

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To get a rear-wheel drive under control, you'll basically need to do two things:

1) Tune your suspension properly (which means buying the most expensive suspension upgrade)
2) Drive correctly: use partial throttle when your front wheels are turned.

After getting the fully customizable suspension, take it for a test drive. Is the car oversteering? Take a look at the defauly suspension setting, particularly the spring rates and the antiroll bars.

There are two things I noticed about the default settings in the racing suspension for many of the cars that I bought:

1) There is a large differential between the front and rear spring rates (i.e. the front spring is set to a high number and the rear is set to a low number). Well, no wonder my car handles like crap. One of the things I learned from GT3 and GT4 is that you want to keep your front and rear spring rates as close as possible. Big differentials causes uneven stiffness, and leads to over/under-steer. You will need a small differential on most cars to get the steer corrected, but not a 40% difference that you see here.
2) The antiroll bars are set very low at the default settings. Who though this was a good idea? What's the point of having them if they are preset to almost zero? Duh. Also, no room to play with them.

Here is what has been successful for me. (May not be for you). The first thing I do when I get a new car and the racing suspension:

1) Drive the car around the course to get a feel for the default settings. You will probably notice lots of under/over-steer. Now begin tuning (do all these things before driving again):
2) Set the front and rear springs to the middle setting, same setting for front and back. Get rid of that differential, at least for now.
3) Lower the ride height to a few notches above the lowest setting. Same setting for front and back.
4) Set your antiroll bars to the middle setting, same for each.
5) Now drive a few laps. It will feel different, but probably better than it was before.

This is the neutral setting for you car. You have gotten rid of the glaring problems from the default settings: lowered your car, actually given your antiroll bars some effect, and gotten rid of the huge spring differential.

Lowering you car is always good. It puts your center of gravity lower so there is less transfer of weight during cornering, braking, and acceleration. It also reduces the aerodynamic drag under your car. Think about a big monster truck who has its ride height set real high.how well can that thing corner with all that body roll. Low to the ground is always good, no matter what the other settings are.

Now, if ride height is set too low, your car will hit the roadway on a bump. But in Forza, you don't need to worry about this too much. Why: no damage when you do bottom out and very little loss of control when you do. We're not running any rally courses here. No major bumps. So, lower that car and don't worry about the consequences.

Now that you have the neutral setting, you can make small adjustments. If the car feels to stiff or too responsive, you can begin softening both your antiroll bars and springs, same for front and back. If the car feels too mushy or not responsive enough, then increase them. If, for some reason, your car bounces into the air, soften your springs. I don't think this will happen, though.

To correct over/under-steer, make small changes to both the antiroll bars and springs. Small. Doing this will cause you to have a small differential between front and back settings. But, by making small changes to both front and back of both antiroll bars and springs, you can get good effects without causing a large differential in either setting. For example, if the description says to increase my front roll bars to help with understeer, I will increase my front roll bars a little and decrease the real roll bars by the same amount. I then do the same for the springs.

My advice is to mess with the springs and antiroll bars to correct for under/oversteer before you start messing with downforce settings. A lot of drivers become "dependent" on their downforce to correct steer. But there are disadvantages to this:
1) Downforce is proportional to speed, so this will only help in the faster corners, whereas suspension settings work at all speeds.
2) Downforce also creates drag which slows you car down. Yes, downforce is important and helps, but don't use it in place of good suspension settings.