Het knoepertgrote Manchester United topic #2

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Op woensdag 21 september 2005 01:32 schreef rubbereend het volgende:
k volg Man U niet zo maar hoe doet Park t?

Die heeft iedere PL wedstrijd gespeeld (maar echt veel minuten heeft-ie niet gemaakt)

Terecht hoor, die domme Rooney moet maar eens leren van zijn kaarten.

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Op woensdag 21 september 2005 09:25 schreef Doc het volgende:

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Die heeft iedere PL wedstrijd gespeeld (maar echt veel minuten heeft-ie niet gemaakt)

Hoezo, positie verbetering??

Alleen financieel dan.

Ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuud 2-1

Mooiste actie van de avond was van Van Nistelrooij, die actie waarna hij de bal op de lat schoot.
Zonde.

FC United

FC United is een nieuw gevormde club in Engeland. Nadat eerst Wimbledon supporters AFC Wimbledon hadden opgericht, nadat hun oude liefde naar Milton Keynes verhuisde, was het afgelopen zomer de beurt aan Manchester United supporters om een nieuwe club op te richten. FC United zag het levenslicht, nadat Malcolm Glazer Manchester United ondanks protesten overnam.

Lees hieronder het verhaal van Salford Lass.



For most of my life, Manchester United has been a passion that has never waned. No matter what has been going on in the rest of my life, I've been able to lose myself at the game. For that 90 minutes (and for the hours I shared with other fans before and after games) nothing else mattered but the atmosphere, the banter, the team, the club, the feeling of fresh Manchester air on my face. And football was always the passion that had nothing to do with money or background. No matter how poor you were, you could always manage to get enough together to go the game with your mates.

Then in the early 90's what seemed the most permanent thing in my life began to change. Many of the changes were wonderful - Le Dieu arrived and we began to have the success that culminated in the best night of my life in May '99. But at the same time, changes were afoot that were not so positive. Football clubs were becoming businesses, prices began to rise, players grew further and further away from the ordinary supporters, fans who had been going to Old Trafford for years began to be priced out. After '99 I began to feel more and more distant from the Club I had loved all my life. After years of going home and away I was one of those being gradually priced out. This season it has come to a head and for the first time in many years I am not going to away games and I am having to contemplate missing home games at Old Trafford. Next season, I will probably have to sell my season ticket for the whole season.

But it's not just the money. It feels to me that "my" Manchester United, the club I have loved all my life, is no more. Fans like me have been increasingly sidelined over the years. All the things we love - the chanting, the banter, the humour, the passion -have disappeared from Old Trafford. United fans today are a different breed. They have money, lots of it, which they spend in the Megastore. They seem to want all the things that I hate. They want a theatre, not a football ground - they even have girls walking around the perimeter at half-time selling ice cream now! They want celebrities not football players! For some years we were able to live with all this, loving the team and the shirt, but not having to buy into the rest of it. But in the last couple of years that has all changed. As the team of the late 90's begins to break up, the players have begun to be as distant from us as the board and Glazer. Apart from a few notable exceptions, the players no longer seem to care about the fans. They live in a world so far removed from the real world (millionaires at 18/19!!) that they have no understanding of the reality of supporting a Premiership club today. Most of the time they can't even be bothered coming over to thank the fans for supporting them - Gary Neville is the only player who still comes over to applaud the fans at the end of every game. When fans booed Rio recently I understood why they did it. I wouldn't have done it - I have never booed a United player in my life - but I understood it and I sympathized.

And it's much too simplistic to blame it all on Glazer. It was happening long before he came along. For years now, there has been an inexorable movement towards this summer, towards a situation which would eventually attract someone like Glazer, who would plunge the Club into the sort of debt that could eventually destroy it.

This summer has been one of the saddest times of my life. I feel I have witnessed the final nails in the coffin of "my" Manchester United. I'm sure that the Club will continue, even if Glazer does his worst, but "my" Manchester United is no more and can never return. I have managed (thanks to the son-and-heir) to renew my season ticket but, if I am honest, attending home games has not been a pleasure. My addiction keeps me going to OT but at the same time I look around at the crowd and at the players on the pitch and I feel nothing but sadness. I chant and sing, I jump up and down when we score, I argue about Fergie's selections as I've always done, but my heart isn't in it.

Others (including many pals who I have known for years) have made different decisions and have been following FC United. I have to admit that over the summer, whilst the new club was being set up, I was very sceptical about FC United. I had no animosity towards the new club, in fact I wished them well, but I simply couldn't see what it had to do with me. Despite my misgivings about the situation at Old Trafford and about Premiership football in general, I renewed my season ticket and decided that when I get priced out - most likely next season - I will walk away for good and perhaps support my local non-league club. I couldn't see any reason to support a club that plays in Bury and with which I have no emotional ties, and I couldn't see how anything could possibly replace the buzz I used to get from supporting United.

One of my friends, however, who shall remain nameless - she knows who she is! - has been mithering me to see for myself what FC United is all about. She even offered to treat me to the day out. So on Saturday morning I finally gave in and arrived in Manchester to meet up with other FC United supporters in a city center bar. After traveling en-masse on the tram to Radcliffe, where the game against Castleton Gabriels was being played, and into a local pub for a pre-match drink and sing-song, we headed off to the ground and Radcliffe Borough's club house. No segregation, just lots of good natured chanting, banter and drinking and, in the middle of it all, taking good natured flack from the fans and joining in the singing, were 3 of the injured players who weren't in the team that day! What was this about? Football players mixing with the fans? And genuinely enjoying themselves? This was certainly different to supporting the modern Manchester United! Another pleasure was meeting up with so many people that I knew but hadn't seen for ages.

Eventually we dragged ourselves away and headed off to the area behind the goal where my friend insisted we stood on the "left side" - yes, they have a right and a left side! And along with us came the players who had been in the bar. They spent the game on the terracing, with the fans, singing and chanting along with the rest of us. I'm not going to comment on the football because I don't know enough about either the players or the standard of football at this level, but suffice to say that it was far better than I expected but without any of the histrionics that accompanies the modern Premiership game. The atmosphere was excellent with lots of humour and banter - particularly between those of us behind the goal and the fans standing under the "bus stop" (just in case it rained a bit!) FC United won 3-0 and I had had a very enjoyable afternoon. It still didn't explain why this new club had become such a passion with it's fans so quickly, but then we all headed back to the pub, where I got my first taste of what supporting FC United really is about and where that passion comes from.

The buzz in the pub was excellent but then it went up several notches when all the players, the coaches, the kitman and the manager turned up! The next 2 hours were incredible and impossible to adequately describe to anyone who wasn't there. Just take a memory of the away end at one of the best away games you've ever been to, add all the staff and players to that mix after making sure that they all have a Gary Neville-style love of, and commitment to the club, stick a drink in their hands and sing your hearts out. And the players don't just sing along with the fans - they lead the singing, they chant about each other, they request their own songs over and over again. And that goes a little way towards describing a buzz which is still with me today. I made a hundred new mates yesterday and came home hoarse and exhausted but with the biggest smile on my face I've had for ages. And when I asked whether this was a special day, I was told no - it happens like this every week!!

So where does this leave me now? Well it certainly leaves me wanting more! And it leaves me more positive about football than I have been for a long, long time. And it wasn't just the session in the pub, the whole experience was a refreshing change from the modern Premiership experience. The crowd was a wonderful mix of men, women and children of all ages, all getting behind the team. There was no aggro and no heavy policing or stewarding. There were lots of colours but no jester hats! There was no anti-United chanting and a respect towards the opposition that I didn't expect (the FC United fans clapped the Castleton players off the pitch at the end of the game and chanted Castleton at them). There was no sign of the arrogance that can make some United fans embarrassing to be around. And all this at 3pm on a Saturday, for the princely sum of Ŗ6!

The formation of FC United has polarised opinions in the last few months with misconceptions on both sides. The biggest misconception of all seems to me to be that you have to choose to support one or the other. That you can't support FC United and still love Manchester United. Well I won't be giving up on Old Trafford willingly - I've loved Manchester United all my life and that won't change - I'll love United until I breathe my last and I'll carry on going to OT as long as I can scrape the money together to do so. But I found something yesterday that I thought was lost forever and I'm so excited about that that I feel like a massive black shadow has lifted and I can't wait for the next time!

FC United are having a United United day on 8th October when all Manchester United fans are being invited to come along to their home game at Gigg Lane. It's an international weekend, so no-one has to miss a game at Old Trafford. I'm going, if you want to know what it's all about - come along and join me!

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Keane kondigt vertrek bij Man United aan

30/9/2005 10:11

Roy Keane heeft donderdagavond zijn afscheid van Manchester United aangekondigd. Na twaalf jaar vindt hij het welletjes op Old Trafford. In januari 2006 wil hij zijn nieuwe club bekendmaken. Waarschijnlijk is Celtic zijn volgende bestemming, de club waarvan de Ier als kind al supporter was.

'Er komt altijd een tijd om verder te gaan', verklaarde Keane op MUTV. 'Mijn contract loopt aan het einde van het seizoen af en ik denk niet dat de club me een nieuw zal aanbieden. Ik zou er door verrast zijn, als ze het wel zouden doen. En mochten ze zoiets van plan zijn, dan zullen ze dat toch pas aan het einde van het seizoen doen. Maar dat is te laat, omdat ik ergens in januari al iets geregeld hoop te hebben.'

Keane zegt nog twee jaar te willen voetballen. 'Komende zomer ben ik 35 en er breken een hoop aardige spelers door. Er bestaat altijd het gevaar dat je te lang blijft. En misschien zijn er al mensen die denken dat ik een jaar of twee te lang ben gebleven. Als je naar je hart luistert wil je zo lang mogelijk blijven, maar je moet ook naar je verstand en naar je lichaam luisteren.'

'Als ik 't heb over een andere club, dan hoeft dat geen Engelse club te zijn. Ik denk dat dat heel moeilijk zou zijn voor mij om mee te leven. Ik zou het niet leuk vinden om op Old Trafford terug te keren en in de uit-kleedkamer te gaan zitten.'

Man U-manager Alex Ferguson zou hem gevraagd hebben om de technische staf van The Mancunians te versterken. Maar Keane wil daar vooralsnog niet aan denken. 'Het zou een goede ervaring voor me zijn: een andere club, een ander land, een andere kleedkamer. Als ik ooit manager wil worden, dan zou het goed voor me zijn een andere omgeving te ervaren.'

Jammer zeg.

maarja hij heeft altijd al graag voor Celtic willen voetballen. hopelijk komt ie ooit nog terug.

Of hij gaat richting Amerika of China ofzo. Goed moment om ManU vaarwel te zeggen.

Wat is de snelste verbinding tussen Liverpool airport en Manchester centrum?

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Cristiano Ronaldo gearresteerd

19 oktober 2005, 18:26
Door: Timo Brouwer

De Portugees Cristiano Ronaldo is gisteravond aangehouden op verdenking van verkrachting. De speler werd gister na het duel van zijn club Manchester United tegen het Franse Lille meegenomen naar het bureau voor verdere ondervraging.
De beschuldigen dateren van 1 oktober. Manchester United speelde toen een uitwedstrijd tegen Fulham, die met 3-2 werd gewonnen. Cristiano Ronaldo overnachtte daarna in een hotel in Londen. De exacte feiten waarvan de Mancunian verdacht wordt zijn vooralsnog niet bekend.

Manchester United weigert te reageren op de beschuldigingen van haar pupil. “Op dit moment weerhouden wij ons nog van elk commentaar”, meldt woordvoerder Phil Townsend. Cristiano Ronaldo zal waarschijnlijk op borgtocht vrij komen in afwachting van het onderzoek.

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Man Utd's Ronaldo in rape arrest

Manchester United footballer Cristiano Ronaldo has been arrested on suspicion of rape. Scotland Yard confirmed a man in his 20s was arrested after reporting by arrangement to a police station.

The Portuguese international is being questioned about claims a woman was sexually assaulted at a central London hotel on 2 October. Manchester United said it was "not commenting at the moment".

Ronaldo, 20, attended the station and was arrested by officers from the Metropolitan Police's specialist Sapphire team. He is being held in custody while he is interviewed about allegations made by a woman that she was raped in the penthouse suite of a hotel the day after Manchester United played Fulham.

A man in his 30s also kept an appointment at the police station, but has not been arrested.

BBC crime correspondent Neil Bennett said normal procedure was for the police to interview the alleged victim and alleged perpetrator and send a file to the Crown Prosecution Service to decide whether anyone should be charged.

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Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed Cristiano Ronaldo will keep his place in the Manchester United squad despite the rape allegations against him.

The 20-year-old, who has denied the allegations, was arrested on Wednesday and questioned over claims that a woman was sexually assaulted on 2 October.

Ferguson said: "Obviously Cristiano has had a difficult time, but he trained yesterday and today and he will be OK."

United face second-placed Tottenham at Old Trafford on Saturday.

They will be without Ryan Giggs, who Ferguson revealed has broken his cheekbone in three places.

The Welsh winger was caught by an elbow in the Champions League draw against Lille on Tuesday and will be out for at least six weeks.

"It will have to be plated," said Ferguson.

Hij kan dus gewoon meedoen.

Anders heb je altijd nog Ji-Sung. Lijkt me beter om Cristiano even op de bank te houden.

Vandaag moeten ze echt winnen..anders zal het nix worden met het seizoen denk ik

Agh morgen moeten we winnen het gelijke spel tegen spurs is jammer maar niet erg.

Morgen moeten we wel winnen en komt het 1000ste doelpunt eraan voor United in de premier league ik hoop dat Rooney hem maakt.

MU heeft dit jaar weer veel pech met blessures en schorsingen.

Misschien moeten ze dit jaar maar eens alles op de CL zetten na de winterstop

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Op vrijdag 28 oktober 2005 21:10 schreef fernando_redondo het volgende:
MU heeft dit jaar weer veel pech met blessures en schorsingen.

Misschien moeten ze dit jaar maar eens alles op de CL zetten na de winterstop

hoe bedoel je

Heinze, Keane, Giggs

Titel is onhaalbaar

Ja net stond er nog wat anders.

Maarja Giggs valt nog wel mee is dit seizoen nog maar 1x in de basis begonnen. Keane was te verwachten dat ie veel afwezig zou zijn wegens zijn hoge leeftijd.

Heinze is idd erg balen. Zeer belangrijke verdediger die we zeker missen de speler van het seizoen van vorig jaar.
We zullen zien in de komende tijd of de titel er nog in zit. Volgende week United thuis tegen Chelsea daar moet het gebeuren.

Je gelooft in je eigen dromen?

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Op vrijdag 28 oktober 2005 21:25 schreef fernando_redondo het volgende:
Je gelooft in je eigen dromen?

Tuurlijk. We spelen ook niet voor niets in het Theatre of Dreams

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United Notch 1,000 Premiership Goals

Manchester United today became the first team to score 1,000 goals in the Barclays Premiership since its 1992 inception.

Cristiano Ronaldo's injury-time header against Middlesbrough at the Riverside Stadium saw the Reds achieve the historic landmark - unfortunately on a day when everything else seemed to go wrong. Boro were, by then, four goals up and cruising.

It will be of little consolation to Sir Alex Ferguson's shell-shocked side but they reached the 1,000 mark well ahead of their rivals, none of whom have yet scored 900 goals.

ManUtd.com and United Review will be poring over the record books in the coming weeks, to bring you all the important statistics, quirky facts and throwaway titbits from United's first thousand goals in the Barclays Premiership.

wat een afgang zeg gisteren Dit is nog het enige positieve.

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Op vrijdag 28 oktober 2005 21:22 schreef Dos37 het volgende:

We zullen zien in de komende tijd of de titel er nog in zit. Volgende week United thuis tegen Chelsea daar moet het gebeuren.

ie meent toch nie dat ze nog kampioen word?

Het is toch een feit dat de normale clubjongens de basis op het moment vormen. Er zijn weinig spelers die voor creativiteit zorgen. Als fan zou met dat wel zorgen baren.

pffff wat een afgang

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Keane demands Man Utd clear-out

Roy Keane's interview with Manchester United's TV channel following the loss at Middlesbrough reportedly called for a player clear-out in the new year.

The interview, subsequently withdrawn, also criticised defender Rio Ferdinand.

Keane is quoted as telling MUTV: "Just because you're paid Ŗ120,000-a-week and do well for 20 minutes against Spurs, you think you're a superstar.

"There's talk of putting this right in January and bringing players in. We should be doing the opposite."

The 34-year-old, who has been at Old Trafford for 11 years, issued an uncompromising analysis of United's humiliating 4-1 defeat at The Riverside.

I wasn't surprised by the result - I had been expecting one like this," said Keane.

"The players have been asked questions and they are just not coming up with the answers. I am sick of having to say it and they are sick of listening to me.

"They have let down the club, the manager and the fans.

"The younger players have been let down by some of the more experienced ones - they are not leading. There is a shortage of characters.

"It seems to be in this club you have to play badly to be rewarded. Maybe that is what I should do when I come back - play badly."

Nor did the younger players at the club, currently 13 points adrift of Premiership leaders Chelsea, escape Keane's wrath.

"When they sign the contracts, they think they have made it. They owe it to the manager, the staff and the fans," he said.

"These guys thought getting new contracts was the best day of their careers. They think they have made it. They haven't.

"The fact that (senior players) are out should be enough incentive for those coming in to play better and give more.

"It is not enough to play well for 20 minutes, it is a 90-minute game.

"You get well rewarded but you have to put the hard work to earn those rewards."

The show was due to be screened on Monday but failed to make it to air, with a report on the club's academy side shown instead.


United manager Sir Alex Ferguson refused to comment on the matter when quizzed ahead of his side's Champions League clash with Lille at Stade de France.

Keane is currently out of action with a broken bone in a foot.

Woei! Ben niet zo wild van Keane als voetballer , maar zijn uitspraken zijn wel gepeperd

Vooral zijn opmerking over Rio Ferdinand

Check je doelsaldo eens zjroentje, plus het aantal kaarten.

Tegen Chelski komt nog ff het toetje van de week (weeeer een nederlaag)

Rio is inderdaad niet de topper die hij denkt te zijn. O'Shea zou dan net zoveel moeten verdienen.