[Centraal] Arsenal-topic, #6

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Op vrijdag 3 juni 2005 22:39 schreef TerroRobbie het volgende:
Is hij al te bestellen?

kijk eens op


www.arsenal.com

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Op vrijdag 3 juni 2005 22:39 schreef TerroRobbie het volgende:
Is hij al te bestellen?

ja

pre-order met cc
Dan wacht ik nog maar..

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Op vrijdag 3 juni 2005 23:29 schreef TerroRobbie het volgende:
pre-order met cc
Dan wacht ik nog maar..

internetbestellingen,en zeker "overseas",gaan 9 van de 10 keer met CC.....

Ik wacht wel mooi op het moment dat hij hier te koop is, dan haal ik het shirt zeker.

leuk dat er een speciaal shirt voor t laatste jaar in t stadion

Pre-order start op 8 juni. Dat shirt wil ik absoluut hebben.

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Op zaterdag 4 juni 2005 01:32 schreef fanneke het volgende:
Pre-order start op 8 juni. Dat shirt wil ik absoluut hebben.

Kan het wel voor je meebrengen,scheelt weer 8 pond ofzo aan porto

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Op zaterdag 4 juni 2005 01:34 schreef DutchGooner het volgende:

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Kan het wel voor je meebrengen,scheelt weer 8 pond ofzo aan porto

Wanneer ga je?

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Op zaterdag 4 juni 2005 01:35 schreef fanneke het volgende:

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Wanneer ga je?

De eerste thuiswedstrijd normaal gesproken

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Op zaterdag 4 juni 2005 01:35 schreef DutchGooner het volgende:

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De eerste thuiswedstrijd normaal gesproken

Da's pas half augustus. Zou het graag tijdens de zomer al dragen. Wordt dus on-line bestellen.
Maar bedankt voor het aanbod DG.

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Op zaterdag 4 juni 2005 01:39 schreef fanneke het volgende:

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Da's pas half augustus. Zou het graag tijdens de zomer al dragen. Wordt dus on-line bestellen.
Maar bedankt voor het aanbod DG.

gerne oder nicht

Cole: Arsenal treat me like a child
By D Ferguson
5 June 2005


Ashley Cole says that the bridge between him and Arsenal has been burnt and that he is being forced out of the club because half of the board no longer want him at Highbury.



In all honestly, having a public meeting with Chelsea without the permission of the club is hardly going to help his Arsenal career but Cole is making out like he is the victim in all of this.



Speaking in the News of the World, the England international said: "I think it's a broken bridge that is impossible to mend. I blame David Dein for trying to force me out of the club I love.



"They've left me feeling there is no way back, that they don't want me to put my beloved Arsenal shirt on again.



“Dein didn't show me any respect and treated me like a little kid.



"I am now convinced a section of the Arsenal board don't want me."



Meanwhile Patrick Vieira has denied sending a text message to Cole telling him to accept nothing less that an £80,000 per week contract at Highbury.

Komt van het niet al te betrouwbare pinkfootball maar als het zo is flikkert ie maar op.

Jammer maar helaas maar met Clichy heb je iemand achter de hand die die positie in de toekoms net zo goed kan opvullen.

Als dit waar zou zijn dan is hij zich flink onmogelijk aan het maken. Hij zoekt dan de fout ook helemaal niet bij zichzelf.

Als dit klopt mag hij wat mij betreft vertrekken. Clichy kan goed uit de voeten op linksback, kwestie van wennen.

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Op zondag 5 juni 2005 13:13 schreef VoreG het volgende:
Als dit klopt mag hij wat mij betreft vertrekken. Clichy kan goed uit de voeten op linksback, kwestie van wennen.

Cole fears Arsenal career is over

Hier staat het op een meer betrouwbare bron.


Dit hele verhaal kent alleen maar verliezers. Mocht hij gaan dan kan Clichy inderdaad daar spelen maar van mij mag hij blijven

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Op zondag 5 juni 2005 14:00 schreef Gunner het volgende:






Dit hele verhaal kent alleen maar verliezers. Mocht hij gaan dan kan Clichy inderdaad daar spelen maar van mij mag hij blijven

De enige die echt lacht dat is Clichy en Mourinho op het eind,let maar op

Of de russische staat die miljarden terugeist van Abrahomofiets..

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Op zondag 5 juni 2005 14:26 schreef TerroRobbie het volgende:
Of de russische staat die miljarden terugeist van Abrahomofiets..

En wat heeft dat er mee te maken?

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Op zondag 5 juni 2005 14:30 schreef DutchGooner het volgende:

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En wat heeft dat er mee te maken?

Niet veel maar het is misschien wel interresant om te weten.
En als het echt zover gaat komen zal mourinho ook niet meer lachen..

Van een supporterssite;

An Open Letter To Ashley Cole
Exiled In Newcastle
Tuesday, 7 June 2005 2:15 PM

LONDON (ARSENAL-MANIA) - Dear Ashley,

Last week I wrote a cheque for £1,295. Now I know to you that's probably small change (a good nights sleep will earn you more) but to me it's a lot of money. And why did I write that cheque? I'll tell you, as you probably have no idea. That's what my season ticket for Highbury is costing me next season. That works out a spit short of 50 quid every game (or maybe a pair of socks for you).

Now please don't get me wrong, I actually don't begrudge you your wages. I don't mind the fact that you'll earn more this year than most of us will probably earn in a lifetime. What does make me mad is hearing your representatives and lawyers bitching about how unfair the whole system is. I've even seen headlines comparing footballers contracts with slavery! If it wasn't so sickening the concept of multi-millionaire slaves would be a good sit-com idea.

Let's get it straight – all you're expected to do is honour your contract and not speak to other clubs (especially who and when) whilst you're supposed to be discussing a new contract with Arsenal. Not much really, is it.

Footballers have always been well paid in comparison to the average person, from way back when. The £8 a week players earned during the season (£4 summer) in the 30's was in no way excessive, but certainly a comfortable wage compared with the average worker. Even more so as the depression bit. The retain and transfer system in place then that lasted through to Jimmy Hill's campaign (with George Eastham as an uncomfortable figurehead) to change that and remove the maximum wage in the early 60's, which directly led to the first £100 footballers in this country (I believe Johnny Haines at Fulham was the first).

There was still a genuine injustice in the system though; in so much as even after a player had seen out their contract clubs could still demand a transfer fee. Bosman put an end to that, and whilst it wasn't good for football in general I couldn't disagree with the fairness of it being overturned.

But now we have your people bleating about how footballers are the modern slaves! Ashley, it's sickening in a world where genuine slavery still exists for someone on a reported £27,000 a week to be compared with them. Absolutely sickening. But with the self interest (and self importance) of players these days I'm in no way surprised to read it. Every day of the year, where ever you are and whatever you're doing you're earning nearly £4000. Some slavery. People to pander to your needs and pamper you (paid for by the club not you). Luxury travel everywhere you go (and don't start telling me that it's a hard life with all the travel – try schlepping 600 miles up and down the M1 to every home game like I do!). The best of everything. Even the clothes you 'work' in are provided for free! And I must point out that you appeared very happy with the contract when you feely signed it (or was that nasty Mr Dein holding a gun to your head?).

Now a dose of the real world for you. If you were there you'd know that us mortals only get paid when we're at work. We might be lucky enough to work for a firm with a subsidised canteen where we can eat our lunch – not the free canteen you get at the training ground. Like you we have to negotiate wage rises, but in the real world.

When I sign a contract for something it normally gives a period of notice each side has to give. I could be gone in a few weeks with no come back. You signed a contract where you were paid £27,000 every week for five years. It's called a fixed term contract and you agreed to honour it. Now you're not and it's 'poor you'. It's sickening.

Another sickening thing is when you say how you've always given Arsenal 100% on the pitch as if we should be grateful for that. Well we're not - we DEMAND it. Giving 100% is the absolute minimum that we should expect from players. Form may mysteriously come and go – we accept that – but you should be giving 100% as a matter of course.

Then I read your bleating article in the Sunday papers (the rag of rags no less – the horrible one that you and your agent said lied about the meeting happening). By the way – how much did you trouser for that article? £10k ... £20k? And Ashley – you make me sick to the pit of my stomach.

You say that you wanted £60k a week. Fair enough, I've got to admit I've never been shy about asking for a wage rise. But then you try to justify everything you did because Arsenal had the temerity not to completely acquiesce to your demands. It really is beyond belief.

Well, Ash, sod you and your snivelling agent (who expected Arsenal to pay him for you signing a new contract – he's your agent, you pay him!). And don't even try all this bull about feeling forced out of the club you (claim to) love, and how you feel you won't be able to put on your 'beloved' Arsenal shirt again. You did this. Not David Dein or the board. YOU.

When this story first broke I was strongly of the opinion that you shouldn't be judged until the commission had sat. I wouldn't boo you; I actively cheered you at games. I thought you really were 'one of us' who'd just got caught up in something by mistake. But you're not, you're one of 'them'. Just another footballer that doesn't give a toss about anyone but yourself.

If you though that sordid article was going to ingratiate you with the fans and that we'd think poor little Ash has been hard done by then you were wrong. Very wrong.

As far as I'm concerned I'm through with you. I hope you sod off somewhere (I've even seen Real Madrid touted – another example of you and principles...) and your career nose-dives as most do when they leave Wenger's Arsenal. Mind you if I was on the board then the able Clichy would be first choice next season and you would rot in the reserves for two years. What would your earning potential be then?

If you ever actually read this and feel I've been unfair then contact me and I'll give you a chance to reply to any of the points. But you won't will you ... we're only fans. It's not like we matter to you.

Sincerely,
Exiled In Newcastle


Weinig aan toe te voegen,zijn dagen zijn geteld....

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Op dinsdag 7 juni 2005 16:38 schreef DutchGooner het volgende:
Weinig aan toe te voegen,zijn dagen zijn geteld....

Waarom ben je daar zo zeker van?

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Op dinsdag 7 juni 2005 16:52 schreef Gunner het volgende:

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Waarom ben je daar zo zeker van?

Supporters moeten hem niet meer, bestuur bij Arsenal is natuurlijk ook niet blij met de gang van zaken.

Real Madrid zou 14 miljoen pond veil hebben voor Ashley.

Ja het is niet erg netjes wat hij gedaan heeft natuurlijk (zacht uitgedrukt)