Dimebag Darrell (ex-Pantera, Damageplan) doodgeschoten.

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Op donderdag 9 december 2004 17:27 schreef Toffe_Ellende het volgende:

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Dat is inderdaad waar. Maar hier hebben we gelukkig strenge wapenwetten. En echte muziekliefhebbers, die concerten bezoeken, zijn geen criminelen over het algemeen.

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Op donderdag 9 december 2004 13:03 schreef the_opposite het volgende:
Das wel even schrikken dit. Dimebag was best een aardige gitarist, en was toch ook de basis van Pantera. Hoe kan zoiets nou gebeuren in de VS waar het allemaal om veiligheid draait??

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Op donderdag 9 december 2004 15:43 schreef bukgeit het volgende:

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Vera, Paradiso, Ekko, Simplon, Vredenburg, Tivoli, Melkweg, Doornroosje, Oosterpoort: waar je ook komt, je wordt er niet gefouilleerd. Alleen bij betreding van de grotere zalen word je gecontroleerd, en dan ook nog steekproefsgewijs. Kortom: het kan ook hier gebeuren.

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Op donderdag 9 december 2004 18:50 schreef KaheemSaid het volgende:

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Dit is natuurlijk grote bullshit. Ook criminelen, moordenaars en potentionele moordenaars houden van muziek. Ook kunnen dezen best op een optreden komen.

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Op donderdag 9 december 2004 19:02 schreef GLO het volgende:

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Ik ben in Paradiso wel 's gefouilleerd hoor, o.a. bij Yellowman, een raï-feestavond en de Angelic Upstarts. Doen ze blijkbaar standaard bij risicoconcerten.

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Op vrijdag 10 december 2004 00:44 schreef Godshand het volgende:
Welke muzikanten zijn nu nog meer dood? Stom dat die cop die gunfreak heeft doodgeschoten, nu weten we niet waarom...

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Op vrijdag 10 december 2004 17:21 schreef Den_Dead_Kennedys het volgende:
Op zich wel sensationeel dat zulke metalgastjes met hun bek vol over de dood eens in kogel . De schutter zal wel slachtoffer zijn van MIND CONTROL iets waar wel meer mensen uit de scene last van hebben.

Maarja mooiheid in de dood heeft ook negatieve kanten, ik vind het raar en rot voor fans dat ze hun favo gitarist moeten missen. De dood is natuurlijk een oplossing als je maar wel respect toont voor je muziekhelden.

Hail for Pantera
Respect the Killer

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Op donderdag 9 december 2004 21:32 schreef bukgeit het volgende:

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Dat het vaker niet dan wel gebeurt zul je toch wel met me eens zijn.

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Op vrijdag 10 december 2004 18:10 schreef Den_Dead_Kennedys het volgende:
Ik was er het liefst bijgeweest. Hopelijk maak ik dit een keer mee.

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DAMAGEPLAN Singer’s Father Relieved Son Is OK [Hot Flashes - 04.12.10 08:05:10]

The Oregonian (www.oregonlive.com) has issued the following report from Steve Woodward:

At 3:45 a.m. Thursday (December 9th), the call Alan Lachman had been hoping for all night finally came.
His son called to say he was alive and unhurt.

The previous evening, Lachman and his wife, Margie, had only a phone message left by the girlfriend of their 34-year-old son, Patrick Lachman, the lead singer in the heavy-metal band DAMAGEPLAN.

Some crazy guy, she said, had jumped the stage during a concert in Columbus, Ohio, and started shooting. Patrick was OK.

"I guess you'd call it a parent's worst nightmare but he came out of it," said Alan Lachman, a retired Beaverton dermatologist.

The gunman killed the band's lead guitarist, "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott, and three others in the crowd before a police officer shot the gunman dead. Two others were injured in the shootings, including the band's manager.

"He sounded very calm on the phone," Alan Lachman said of his son, "but I'm sure the shock will set in later."

His son told him the band had just started to play, when the shooting started. Patrick yelled, "Call 9-1-1" into his microphone, then jumped off the stage into the crowd.

"He realized there was nothing he could do," Alan Lachman said, noting that Patrick is a target shooter and former martial arts instructor.

"He's a good, tough, husky guy," said the elder Lachman.

Alan Lachman said his son called again Thursday from a Columbus hospital, where the band's manager was in critical condition from a gunshot wound. The manager was expected to recover.

The elder Lachman and his wife, Margie Lachman, first met Abbott and his brother, Vinnie Paul Abbott, last November during the band's concert at the Roseland Theater. They saw Darrell Abbott again only two weeks ago, when Damageplan played in Portland at the Bossanova Ballroom.

The band had reserved the couple a table on the top floor overlooking the stage. Before the show began, Darrell and Patrick ran up the stairs to the table, where Darrell gave them both hugs and said, "Hey, Mom and Dad, now I can go play," Alan Lachman remembers.

Patrick Lachman, who grew up in Beaverton and left Sunset High School in 1988 during his senior year, according to school records, had an interest in heavy metal and rock music from an early age, his father said. He taught himself to play guitar, practicing in the garage.

"I can't say I identified with it all the time," Alan Lachman said. "I've lived with earplugs for a long time."
In 1985, Patrick a teenager, and other members of the Portland heavy-metal band DR. MASTERMIND recorded a full-length record and went on tour. Lacking success, the band dissolved the following year.

Since then, Patrick has built a successful career playing guitar for high-profile bands such as DIESEL MACHINE and HALFORD, which was formed by Rob Halford, a vocalist with heavy-metal band JUDAS PRIEST.

Damageplan is the first band in which Patrick has been lead singer.

"That whole music scene is one of lot of wildness," Alan Lachman said. "You just put it in the back of your mind and hope for the best."

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Op vrijdag 10 december 2004 18:10 schreef Den_Dead_Kennedys het volgende:
ik citeer: Swingig the hammer hack through their heads, defiant defilers your next to be dead I unleash my hammer with sadistic intense wrapping surrounding slamming through your head.

Ik bedoel dit:

Ik kocht altijd allerlei CD-tjes omdat ik dacht dat er bloed werd vergoten. Ik hou van bloedvergieten. Ik kick op Gene Simmons als er een straaltje bloed uit zijn mond loopt. Ik zet Sabbath BLOODY Sabbath op omdat er Bloody in de tekst zit dat is mooi. MOOI.

Ik was er het liefst bijgeweest. Hopelijk maak ik dit een keer mee.


NOW I SHALL REIGN IN BLOOD

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Op donderdag 9 december 2004 19:07 schreef FLIPNEUS het volgende:

[There were no Columbus police officers inside the club due to a policy that prohibits officers from working inside liquor establishments. Alrosa Villa management was in charge of the building's security.]

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Op vrijdag 10 december 2004 19:50 schreef hond_in_de_goot het volgende:

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Wat een idiote regel. Blijkbaar hebben ze daar nog nooit gehoord van veiligheid ofzo.

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Op vrijdag 10 december 2004 18:10 schreef GLO het volgende:

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Zeker, maar dat betoogde je niet.

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Shooting Suspect Obsessed With Pantera
(AP, 12/10/2004 2:53 PM)

By Jay Cohen

The man who shot former Pantera guitarist "Dimebag" Darrell Abbott and three other men to death at a nightclub was obsessed with the popular heavy metal band and made bizarre accusations against it, a onetime friend said in reports published Friday.

Jeramie Brey said gunman Nathan Gale once showed up at a friend's house saying he wanted to share songs he had written. The pages of lyrics were copied from Pantera, but Gale claimed he had written them, Brey said.

"He was off his rocker," Brey told The Columbus Dispatch. "He said they were his songs, that Pantera stole them from him and that he was going to sue them."

He later told Brey that he planned to sue Pantera for stealing his identity. Brey and friend Dave Johnson said Gale's behavior frightened them and they distanced themselves from him several years ago. But other friends said they never considered Gale capable of violence.

On Wednesday night, the 25-year-old former Marine charged the stage at a show by Abbott's new band, Damageplan, and gunned down four people including Abbott before a policeman fatally shot him.

Police said Friday they still didn't know Gale's motive, and they may never find out. Some witnesses said Gale yelled accusations that the revered guitarist broke up Pantera, but police had not verified those reports.

An imposing figure at 6-foot-3, Gale had made people uneasy even at the tattoo parlor, staring and locking them into conversations about heavy metal music. When he played offensive line for the semi-pro Lima Thunder football team, he psyched himself up before games by piping Pantera into his headphones, coach Mark Green said.

But Green had not pegged Gale as the type to go on a shooting rampage.

"It wasn't like he was a loner," Green said.

Gale had had minor run-ins with police since 1997 but wasn't considered a troublemaker, according to police in his hometown of Marysville, 25 miles northwest of Columbus.

Gale had served with the 2nd Marine Division at Camp Lejeune in North Carolina until November 2003, when he was discharged after less than half of the typical four-year stint, Marine spokeswoman Gunnery Sgt. Kristine Scarber said. She declined to explain the discharge, citing privacy rules.

A few hours before the shooting, Gale had showed up at Marysville's Bears Den Tattoo Studio, where often he stared at people and forced them into conversations, manager Lucas Bender said.

"He comes in here and likes to hang out when he's not wanted," Bender said. "The most pointless conversations."

On Wednesday he asked about having the studio order tattoo equipment for him, tattoo artist Bo Toler said. Toler told him no, and Gale got angry and started yelling, he said.

"Last night was actually the first time I noticed his temper," Toler said.

No one answered the door Thursday at the Marysville home of Gale's mother, Mary Clark. A message left on her cell phone was not returned.

The violence at the smoke-filled Alrosa Villa club came just after the opening notes by Damageplan, the band formed by Abbott and his brother, drummer Vinnie Paul Abbott, after they left Pantera. Gale dodged two band members, grabbed Darrell Abbott and shot him at least five times in the head, witnesses and police said.

In less than five minutes, Gale had also killed Erin Halk, 29, a club employee who loaded band equipment; fan Nathan Bray, 23, of nearby Grove City; and band bodyguard Jeff Thompson, 40.

Two other band employees, Chris Paluska and John Brooks, remained in a hospital Friday morning with undisclosed injuries. Paluska was listed in good condition and Brooks in serious condition.

On 911 tapes released by authorities, one caller said, "I heard quite a few gunshots and I think somebody in the band definitely has been shot."

A short time later a man called and said: "He's on stage right now. He's got a gun." A moment later, the man said, "He just shot again," and then, "He's got a gun to somebody's head."

Despite a drizzle and temperatures in the 40s, more than 200 people turned up for a vigil Thursday night in the club's parking lot.

Shawn Sweeney, 22, played "old-school Pantera" on an acoustic guitar as a half-dozen young men held a blue tarp over his head and sang along as a crowd gathered.

"This is beautiful, this is absolutely beautiful," Sweeney said.

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Op vrijdag 10 december 2004 21:31 schreef Sack_Blabbath het volgende:

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Op vrijdag 10 december 2004 21:57 schreef hjirdo het volgende:
Verschrikkelijk! Ik had trouwens begrepen dat behalve Darrell Abbott een toeschouwer, een zaalmedewerker en een bodyguard van de band zijn doodgeschoten, niet nog een bandlid.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/12/10/nightclub.shooting.ap/index.html

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Op vrijdag 10 december 2004 18:10 schreef Den_Dead_Kennedys het volgende:
ik citeer: Swingig the hammer hack through their heads, defiant defilers your next to be dead I unleash my hammer with sadistic intense wrapping surrounding slamming through your head.

Ik bedoel dit:

Ik kocht altijd allerlei CD-tjes omdat ik dacht dat er bloed werd vergoten. Ik hou van bloedvergieten. Ik kick op Gene Simmons als er een straaltje bloed uit zijn mond loopt. Ik zet Sabbath BLOODY Sabbath op omdat er Bloody in de tekst zit dat is mooi. MOOI.

Ik was er het liefst bijgeweest. Hopelijk maak ik dit een keer mee.


NOW I SHALL REIGN IN BLOOD

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Op vrijdag 10 december 2004 22:13 schreef Aventura het volgende:

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Kan iemand deze user afvoeren in een dwangbuis?

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Op vrijdag 10 december 2004 22:38 schreef bukgeit het volgende:
Jij bent hier de mod.