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Ik heb gisteren een discussie gehad met iemand die zei dat het proces tegen MJ alleen maar om het geld gaat. Nu zei ik dat het deze keer geen civiele procedure is maar een strafrechtelijk onderzoek en dat het daarin niet in eerste instantie gaat om geld maar om een straf. Het OM in de VS willen hem gewoon achter de tralies hebben.
Heeft iemand meer info over hoe dit werkt in de VS? Ik heb hier een keer een documantaire over gezien, maar ik kan me niet alles meer herinneren.
Misschien dat de slachtoffers wel een schadevergoeding krijgen, misschien dat het ze daar wel om te doen is, maar het is in eerste instantie naar mijn weten een strafrechtelijk onderzoek.
wie heeft links of info?
Thenx.
Mensen die opruimen zijn gewoon te lui om te zoeken.
fotoboek
fotoboek
Is iemand het al gelukt om de broadcast version te downloaden?quote:Op zondag 30 januari 2005 17:02 schreef Diorchanel het volgende:
De video statement is uit;
Correct me if i'm wrong, maar... wat let ze om na de strafrechtelijke zaak alsnog een civiele zaak aan te spannen?quote:Op maandag 31 januari 2005 12:53 schreef simonsvision het volgende:
Ik heb gisteren een discussie gehad met iemand die zei dat het proces tegen MJ alleen maar om het geld gaat. Nu zei ik dat het deze keer geen civiele procedure is maar een strafrechtelijk onderzoek en dat het daarin niet in eerste instantie gaat om geld maar om een straf. Het OM in de VS willen hem gewoon achter de tralies hebben.
mja, Tom Sneddon heeft dit echt allemaal opgezet denk ik
waarom gaat hij nou lopen shoppen met de aanklagers
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/01/30/jackson.trial/index.htmlquote:The prosecution wanted the boys to testify in a separate room without showing their faces in court. Jackson's attorneys disputed the prosecution's claim that the boys needed protection from the public eye, saying they had testified in other cases and had recently been spotted shopping in Beverly Hills with the district attorney.
waarom gaat hij nou lopen shoppen met de aanklagers
Als Michael schuldig wordt bevonden, ongeacht schuld of onschuld krijg je twee scenarios die de aanklagers veel geld opleveren;
1- fikse schadevergoeding van MJ
2- geld voor de honderden interviews en boeken van de media
Oh ja, lees dit eens;
31/01/2005 14:43:59 D.A. Tom Sneddon Went Shopping With Accusers
In an article released by CNN, CNN report: "Jackson's attorneys disputed the prosecution's claim that the boys needed protection from the public eye, saying they had testified in other cases and had recently been spotted shopping in Beverly Hills with the district attorney."
Source: CNN
1- fikse schadevergoeding van MJ
2- geld voor de honderden interviews en boeken van de media
Oh ja, lees dit eens;
31/01/2005 14:43:59 D.A. Tom Sneddon Went Shopping With Accusers
In an article released by CNN, CNN report: "Jackson's attorneys disputed the prosecution's claim that the boys needed protection from the public eye, saying they had testified in other cases and had recently been spotted shopping in Beverly Hills with the district attorney."
Source: CNN
Zelfs al Jackson onschuldig wordt bevonden kunnen ze nog een civiele procedure starten gok ik: zelfde is met OJ gebeurd en heeft hem iets van $15 miljoen gekost meen ik.
Ik heb die "boadcast version" kunnen downloaden. Heb er Flashget voor gebruikt, zonder brak hij steeds na 30MB de download af.
Ik heb die "boadcast version" kunnen downloaden. Heb er Flashget voor gebruikt, zonder brak hij steeds na 30MB de download af.
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
ik begrijp wel dat een civiele procedure daarna nog mogelijk is dat zei ik ook in de discussie. Maar degenen die tegen mij discussierde zei dat het in deze procedure om geld ging. Maar dat kan in een strafrechtelijk onderzoek volgens mij niet. Hij kan de aanklager geen afkoopsom aanbieden. lijkt mij?
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Kan de aanklager geen afkoopsom MEER bieden: die wet is gewijzigd sinds de vorige keer. Toen heeft hij het wel afgekocht....
Daarom kan die ma nu ook makkelijk zeggen dat het haar niet om het geld gaat: Jackson MAG deze zaak niet eens meer afkopen, al zou hij het willen, omdat de DA hem dan alsnog doorzet. Dus die moeder heeft weinig keus: gewoon deze zaak uitzitten en dan door voor de jackpot
Daarom kan die ma nu ook makkelijk zeggen dat het haar niet om het geld gaat: Jackson MAG deze zaak niet eens meer afkopen, al zou hij het willen, omdat de DA hem dan alsnog doorzet. Dus die moeder heeft weinig keus: gewoon deze zaak uitzitten en dan door voor de jackpot
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
wanneer begint de rechtzaak/soap dan?
ik hoop wel dat het betere acteurs zijn dan in die film die vorig jaar een paar kaar op vh1 te zien was, wat een crap
ik hoop wel dat het betere acteurs zijn dan in die film die vorig jaar een paar kaar op vh1 te zien was, wat een crap
quote:First Day Of Trial Is Complete
Tuesday, February 01, 2005
Michael Jackson appeared in court yesterday for what was the first day of his trial.
The proceeding saw 300 potential jurors enter the courtroom in groups. "I assume you'd rather be somewhere else," Judge Melville said, according to the news-press. "I appreciate your making a sacrifice to be here. Jurors are the foundation of this country's system of justice that is thought of so highly." Michael had to wait over an hour for the first group of jurors to arrive.
Of the 300 potentials, almost half of them asked not to serve. Several excuses were given, including financial hardship, house arrest and pregnancy. "That's enough. You've got it," the Judge replied to the pregnant woman. The decision brought applause from the courtroom, as she was the only juror immediately dismissed.
One juror said his employer would not let him be off work for such an amount of time. "(He) doesn't pay for jury service?" Melville replied with a tone of disbelief, "No, sir," the man answered. "He's an attorney." The courtroom then erupted in laughter, including the King of Pop. ( )
Jurors who were not dismissed have been given a seven-page questionnaire to fill out and next week attorneys will begin in-person questioning. The jury selection process will continue until both the Defence and Prosecution agree on what twelve jurors and eight alternatives are acceptable.
The entire Defence team appeared yesterday, as Senior Deputy District Attorney Ron Zonen represented the Prosecution.
The Judge will interview another 300 potential jurors today, with another 150 being interviewed on Wednesday.
BRON: mjni.com
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quote:Michael Jackson legde ex-vrouw zwijgen op.
Michael Jackson heeft zijn ex-vrouw Debbie Rowe na hun scheiding verboden over zijn vermeende drugsgebruik en zijn seksleven te praten. In ruil voor miljoenen dollars, besloot Rowe te zwijgen over de intieme details van Jacksons excentrieke leven.
Dat blijkt uit documenten van de rechtbank in Californië, waar de Amerikaanse popzanger terechtstaat voor kindermisbruik. De papieren, opgesteld door de advocaat van Rowe, zijn gepubliceerd op een Amerikaanse website. Volgens media gaat de aanklager in de zaak de ex-vrouw van Jackson als getuige oproepen.
Jackson zou Rowe na de scheiding ook niet meer tot hun twee kinderen hebben toegelaten. Het duo sloot de vertrouwelijke overeenkomst in 1999.
Yvonne riep ergens: [b]Static is gewoon Static, je leeft met hem of niet.
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.[/b]
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.[/b]
Het 'onschuldige vermaak' van Michael Jackson
LONDEN - telegraaf.nl Andere mannen halen hun pleziertje uit een Ferrari. Zijn vreugde komt uit het "geven en delen, en gewoon onschuldig pret maken". Dat heeft Michael Jackson gezegd in een interview dat nieuwszender Fox zaterdag uitzendt. De van kindermisbruik beschuldigde popster zei dat zijn roem hem een makkelijk doelwit heeft gemaakt.
"Hoe groter de ster, hoe groter het doelwit", aldus Jackson (46) in het vraaggesprek. Het proces tegen de King of Pop is deze week begonnen. Jackson mag van de rechter in het openbaar niet spreken over het proces. In het interview doet hij dat ook niet, maar spreekt de zanger in algemeenheden.
Over zijn landgoed Neverland, waar hij een pretpark vestigde, zegt Jackson: " Ik heb Neverland gemaakt als thuis voor mijzelf en mijn kinderen. Ik kan er doen wat ik niet mocht toen ik klein was. We konden nooit naar de film, niet naar Disneyland. Al die leuke dingen gingen niet. We waren op toernee. Werkten hard. Dat vonden we wel leuk. Maar dit geeft mij een plek achter hekken waar alles is waar ik van hou."
Over de kinderen die hij er uitnodigt, zegt de popster: "Ik voel dat ik Gods goedkeuring heb, omdat ik iets doe wat andere mensen vreugde en geluk brengt."
Oh, hij heeft zeker een rechtsstreeks lijntje met God, any excuse will do zeker?!
LONDEN - telegraaf.nl Andere mannen halen hun pleziertje uit een Ferrari. Zijn vreugde komt uit het "geven en delen, en gewoon onschuldig pret maken". Dat heeft Michael Jackson gezegd in een interview dat nieuwszender Fox zaterdag uitzendt. De van kindermisbruik beschuldigde popster zei dat zijn roem hem een makkelijk doelwit heeft gemaakt.
"Hoe groter de ster, hoe groter het doelwit", aldus Jackson (46) in het vraaggesprek. Het proces tegen de King of Pop is deze week begonnen. Jackson mag van de rechter in het openbaar niet spreken over het proces. In het interview doet hij dat ook niet, maar spreekt de zanger in algemeenheden.
Over zijn landgoed Neverland, waar hij een pretpark vestigde, zegt Jackson: " Ik heb Neverland gemaakt als thuis voor mijzelf en mijn kinderen. Ik kan er doen wat ik niet mocht toen ik klein was. We konden nooit naar de film, niet naar Disneyland. Al die leuke dingen gingen niet. We waren op toernee. Werkten hard. Dat vonden we wel leuk. Maar dit geeft mij een plek achter hekken waar alles is waar ik van hou."
Over de kinderen die hij er uitnodigt, zegt de popster: "Ik voel dat ik Gods goedkeuring heb, omdat ik iets doe wat andere mensen vreugde en geluk brengt."
Oh, hij heeft zeker een rechtsstreeks lijntje met God, any excuse will do zeker?!
Hij is gewoon zo naief dat hij niet inziet waarom het verkeerd zou kunnen zijn als je met een jongetje in bed ligt.
Wat ik zie is een hoop fans die net iets te graag willen dat hij onschuldig is, en een hoop sensatiezoekers die net iets te graag willen dat ie wel schuldig isquote:Op vrijdag 4 februari 2005 22:09 schreef Suko het volgende:
Het 'onschuldige vermaak' van Michael Jackson
LONDEN - telegraaf.nl Andere mannen halen hun pleziertje uit een Ferrari. Zijn vreugde komt uit het "geven en delen, en gewoon onschuldig pret maken". Dat heeft Michael Jackson gezegd in een interview dat nieuwszender Fox zaterdag uitzendt. De van kindermisbruik beschuldigde popster zei dat zijn roem hem een makkelijk doelwit heeft gemaakt.
"Hoe groter de ster, hoe groter het doelwit", aldus Jackson (46) in het vraaggesprek. Het proces tegen de King of Pop is deze week begonnen. Jackson mag van de rechter in het openbaar niet spreken over het proces. In het interview doet hij dat ook niet, maar spreekt de zanger in algemeenheden.
Over zijn landgoed Neverland, waar hij een pretpark vestigde, zegt Jackson: " Ik heb Neverland gemaakt als thuis voor mijzelf en mijn kinderen. Ik kan er doen wat ik niet mocht toen ik klein was. We konden nooit naar de film, niet naar Disneyland. Al die leuke dingen gingen niet. We waren op toernee. Werkten hard. Dat vonden we wel leuk. Maar dit geeft mij een plek achter hekken waar alles is waar ik van hou."
Over de kinderen die hij er uitnodigt, zegt de popster: "Ik voel dat ik Gods goedkeuring heb, omdat ik iets doe wat andere mensen vreugde en geluk brengt."
Oh, hij heeft zeker een rechtsstreeks lijntje met God, any excuse will do zeker?!
De echte waarheid is, dat we die nooit zullen kennen, ben ik van overtuigd.
De hoogte van het afkoopbedrag bedoel je zeker, nee die komen we niet te weten.quote:De echte waarheid is, dat we die nooit zullen kennen, ben ik van overtuigd.
quote:Proces Jackson opgeschort door ziekte zus advocaat.
Het proces tegen popster Michael Jackson loopt in zijn eerste week al vertraging op. De voor maandag geplande verhoren van kandidaat-juryleden worden voorlopig opgeschort, zo meldden Amerikaanse media zaterdag. Reden is de zware ziekte van de zus van Jacksons advocaat, Thomas Mesereau.
Volgens mediaberichten zou de rechtbank een verzoek tot uitstel hebben ingewilligd. Het is niet duidelijk wanneer Jackson en zijn advocaat weer voor het gerecht in Santa Maria (California) moeten verschijnen. Waarnemers sluiten niet uit dat de verdediging van de popster tijd wil winnen. De keuze van juryleden kan uiteindelijk de doorslag geven of Jackson aan het eind van het proces schuldig wordt bevonden.
Yvonne riep ergens: [b]Static is gewoon Static, je leeft met hem of niet.
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.[/b]
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.[/b]
By MJBoard.com
06/02/2005 10:42:48 Geraldo Interview Transcript
The following transcript is taken from Geraldo's interview with Michael Jackson:
>> Michael Jackson: I'm doing fine geraldo, how are you?
>> Geraldo Rivera: Despite whatever goes on in the world you are doing okay?
>> Jackson: I'm doing well, thank you.
>> Rivera: It wonderful seeing you with the children that is the real michael jackson. You with your own children, one in diapers the other two toddlers. I don't know how you manage all of that
>> Jackson: I enjoy taking care of my children myself. It is fun, that's why i had them. So I can take care of them. It is great relief for me, it is pleasure. It keeps me happy and laughing. -- Laughing and they are wonderful, sweet innocent children, they really are.
>> Rivera: I saw you as the arbitrator between the nickelodeon channel and the Disney channel. Difficult problems to solve there.
>> Jackson: Yes.
>> Rivera: But you have such a normal life there. It is sweet to so. -- Sweet to see.
>> Jackson: Thank you. They bring me that.
>> Rivera: Tell me what the children mean to you, your own children?
>> Jackson: It hard to put into words. They mean everything. They are the world for me. I wake up and I'm ready for the day because of them. I give them breakfast, change diapers. They want to read. We do a lot of reading. We play hide-and-seek and blindfold. I have a wonderful time with them.
>> Rivera: You can create a world that at least begins to seem normal. They don't know any other world, obviously.
>> Jackson: I do my best for sure.
>> Rivera: That is obviously a priority to you?
>> Jackson: Yes, of course. I want to be the best father in the world, of course.
>> Rivera: Do they know who you are or what you mean to people?
>> Jackson: Yes, they do. They've been on tours with me. And in limousines. And a sea of fans.
>> Rivera: Do they like it?
>> Jackson: They find it sighting. They want to get on stage. They bug me to go on stage with me. Pretty soon I'm going to take them on with me and let world see them for the first time.
>> Rivera: They are going to say daddy I want to go home and watch nickelodeon.
>> Jackson:Probably.
(more coming)
>> Rivera: How do you feel income the recording studio again, focusing on the music again. It is a relief, in a sense?
>> Jackson: It is a great relief. It is what i do. It makes me feel like I'm totally at home. I'm into my own. This is what I'm here for. Any of the arts like that, could be film, music, any type of art, i love it.
>> Rivera: When you are being the "king of pop" that's when you are most comfortable or is it the creative process?
>> Jackson: Creative process, yes i love creating. I'm obsessed with creating.
>> Rivera: I saw you and randy the way you guys react. Reminisce san of the way my brothers and i are together. Who is top dog?
>> Jackson: Randy.
>> Rivera: That's not what i saw. But you trust your family?
>> JacksoN: Of course, you have to do.
>> Rivera: Is it blood thicker than water thing?
>> Jackson: Yeah, family is everything to us. It is love. It is what we were taught. And values and we are friends at the end of the day which is important. Other than what the public or press say, we are friends. We love each other very much.
>> Rivera: Is the family still closely knit despite the tabloid stuff?
>> Jackson: That is sensationalism.
>> Rivera: How do you deal with everything in your life being magnified, exaggerated?
>> Jackson: It is not true. It is look liking 4 at science fiction. It is sad when other people have to read those things and believe it.
>> Rivera: You feel like holding a press conference every week and saying this is the rumor de jure.
>> Jackson: No, because i know the truth will re-- prevail and I'm about truth.
>> Rivera: I can't find anyone who has been more frivolously sued than you for the most outrageous reasons.
(music: Billy jeanne is not my lover)
>> Rivera: One of your attorneys told me that a woman called bill police jean jackson called and said, -- called billy jean jackson, called and said, I'm the wife. Billy jean from your hit song. First of all, does it affect you?
>> Jackson: Does it affect me?
>> Rivera: Yeah.
>> Jackson: Yes, but I'm, I'm i am in a way, I'm very strong. I have rhinoceros skin, but I'm human. Anything can hurt like that. But I'm very strong. I just don't want people hearing about such false information.
>> Rivera: For instance did you father quadruplets last year.
They became twins. I don't know what happened to the other two, maybe in were abducted by aliens.
>> Jackson: Heard about that story. They said I'm hiding them or something. Another made-up rumor. The bigger the star, the bigger the target. I'm not saying I'm the super duper star, I'm not saying that I'm saying the fact that people come at celebrities, we are targets. But, truth always prevails. And i believe in that. I believe in god.
>> Rivera: Does that faith sustain you?
>> Jackson: Of course it does.
>> Rivera: How about friendship?
>> Jackson: What about friendship?
>> Rivera: Do you rely on friends have people stayed with you through thick and thin. Who are your best friend?
>> Jackson: My children. My family, my brothers and my sisters. Most people have.
>> Rivera: Do you want to mention the names of the true blue?
>> Jackson: Faithful, you wouldn't know them.
>> Rivera: Elizabeth Taylor.
>> Jackson: She is very loyal. I was just at her house. We have wonderful talks on the phone at night, several times a week sometimes.
>> Rivera: How long have you two been friends?
>> Jackson: I've known Elizabeth closely since which was 16.
>> Rivera: And you've been make music since you were five. In your fifth decade, 41 years of making music.
>> Jackson: Yes.
>> Rivera: Ever get sick of it?
>> Jackson: No, not at all. I never get enough of it.
>> Rivera: You ever get sick of randy?
(laughter)
>> Rivera: Never. He's here, ladies and gentlemen.
>> Jackson: He's been very supportive. Amazingly, brilliant, really.
>> Rivera: They are all different, your whole family crazy, eccentric?
>> Jackson: Every one is different. Like any family you have the different elements.
Different. That's what makes it a family.
>> Rivera: When you have such intense any, how do you live any kind of normal life? How do you have fun outside of your own prompt?
>> Jackson: I don't. I go off property sometimes, but not all the time. I create my world behind the gates. I can't go to the local movie theater or the park or pick up ice cream at market, corner store. You want to create that world behind the gates. And that's what i try and do. It is not just for me, if i could share with my family or friends, i do.
>> Rivera: And that necessity for some privacy drives all these -- crazy rumors and speculations. Difficult balancing act that you have to endure?
>> Jackson: Yes, comes with celebrity.
>> Rivera: You're not complaining, are you?
>> Jackson: No.
>> Rivera: I don't, I try rub it off. I don't know what I'm the king of.
>> Jackson: King of journalism.
>> Rivera: What is it about children -- king of journalism. (laughter)
What is it about children in distress your own fatherhood that motivates that?
>> Jackson: Caring. Jesus said bring on the children, take care of others, take care of old people. We were raised with those values, very important values and my family and I. They continue strong in us today.
>> Rivera: When we come back, Jackson talks about a musical reunion with his brothers for a wonderful cause that is after this.
>> Jackson: We are family, that's what we are. And my mother is strong. My father is strong. Even stronger together. We didn't know that from those humble beginnings success would bring about this.
>> (live) Rivera: I've taken firm and public positions on every case from O.J. Simpson to the Clinton impeachment. None has generated the negative attention-this one. Spirited exchange last night with jay leno i figured out why. Every one of us has formed an indelible image of michael jackson over the years. From his plastic surgeries to the changing skin color to what some consider his bizarre public or private behavior. As i said to jay leno last night, none of that is relevant to the question of whether or not he molested the boy. Jackson talks about what is ahead for him -- professionally, if he beat this is case.
>> Rivera: What about movies? We have not seen you on the big screen in a while.
>> Jackson: I will be directing myself. I love directing. I love creativity. When an -- i love directing. I love creativity. If an artist can express himself the way he sees it should be done. I'm a visionary if i can give that, i do. That's what i love to do with music, film. I love the arts.
>> Rivera: Do think art has a role in real life? Specifically referring to this record and tsunami relief?
>> Jackson: Yes.
>> Rivera: You are doing this song for tsunami relief many tell us the moment you recognized this disasterdiwaso eraornary?Or
>> Jackson: I saw it the day after christmas. As the numbers kept building and escalating it became phenomial no andeve it wasE. I was amazed. I i thought I should do something. Th gave us talent for to give and help people and give back. So my brothers and i decided to put a song together.
>> Rivera: Would you pick up the phone and say hey let's get together.
>> Jackson: You say hey we want to do something in the studio for the tsunami victims, let's get together. And they say great, let's do it.
>> Rivera: However you are back, i think people will appreciate you are back. Wouldn't you exhault in a world where you could concentrate on your art and kids?
>> Jackson: I would love it. That's what drives me is the medium. The art. I love it. And that's the world I'm most come tame -- I'm not comfortable in.
>> Rivera: In gary, indiana, did you ever expect where your world would be as a 46-year-old man?
>> Jackson: I never thought about it, really. I knew i wanted to do something wonderful and to help people. But i never really clearly thought about it when i was really little. I just sang and danced and didn't understand why people were applauding and clapping and screaming. You don't know why.
>> Rivera: When you grow up like that on stage, when do you understand where you fit into society?
>> Jackson: I think it takes longer when you get older, you start to have a more rounded personality. And your brain starts to grow and you start reasoning and understanding more things and researching. That's how it happened for me.
>> Rivera: Isn't it nice to have a conversation on television where people can hear you being ordinary, and reasonable?
>> Jackson: I'm like this all the time. I'm just being myself. God bless you, thank you.
>> Rivera: At a certain point, michael jackson and the brothers jackson kind of separated artisticly. Is this a moment in your life where you are coming back together? What is the big plan? What is the big picture, at this stage in your life, what has been left unachieved? What would you like to do?
>> Jackson: There are a lot of surprises. Film. I love film.
>> Rivera: What else?
>> Jackson: Well, it is not just so much film, it is innovating it and pioneering it. Taking the medium to a new place.
>> (video: Just follow me, i got this.)
>> Rivera: You're not talking about music videos now?
>> Jackson: No. Because i used the music video medium as a short film medium to take me to the next level. And I'm having a lot of fun, you know.
>> I know who you are.
>> (live) Rivera: Upcoming segment michael talks about his dad and the future of his music.
>>>(live) Rivera: Welcome back. This segment begins with michael's assessment of where he fits in the current music scene.
>> Rivera: Do you ever look back and contemplate thrill biggest selling musical performance ever? Do you ever get your arms around that?
>> Jackson: I think about it, sometimes. But i try not to think about it too hard. Because i don't want my subconscious mind to think, I've done it all. 'You are done now'. There's so much. That's why i don't put awards or trophies in my house. You won't find a gold record anywhere in my house. It makes you feel accomplished. I walls want to be feel, no i haven't done it yet.
>> Rivera: King of pop, now i look at some of these performers. 50 cent and another one, i forget his name, they are well-known because they survived, you know, violent attacks where they almost died. And they are into hip-hop. It is a different remember now in popular music. Do you think that you will be more like them, more urban kind of? Or do you think the world will come back to more pop and traditional rock?
>> Jackson: Great music and great melodies are immortal. Fashion change, culture changes, customs change. Great music is immortal. We still listen to mozart, tchaikovsky, any of the greats. It is like great sculpture or great painting, it is forever. For generations upon generations to appreciate forever. And i know that's a fact.
>> Rivera: I interviewed barbra streisand at one point she was going to do duets with other popular artists. She changed the tempo to surprise people. Would you ever consider more of a hip-hop approach?
>> Jackson: I've done a lot of it?
>> Rivera: Rapping. You want to rap now?
>> Jackson: Don't really rap, but i could rap. I've written songs with rap versus -- with rap verses in them. They are better at it than i am. That's why i won't compete with them.
>> Rivera: Despite your isolated life and the fact you've been a star so long you still have what appears to be a profound and passionate relationship with the community.
>> (video: Welcome to Neverland. And merry christmas. And have a wonderful day, okay.)
>> (video: Thank you!)
>> Rivera: Does that support you, does that sustain you, do you agree with me?
>> Jackson: Yes, agree. It is important to love your neighbors.
>> Rivera: Where does that almost instinct love of yours come from, where do you think?
>> Jackson: I think it comes from my mother and god. Values my frnstill in us as youth. She was always there with the bible, teaching us. We go to service all the time. Like four time a week . And I'm so glad we did that. Those values are very important. I don't know if I could have done as well without them.
>> Rivera: Do you still spend time with mom and dad?
Not far from here now?
>> Jackson: That's right.
>> Rivera: What is that relationship about? I'm so close to my mom.
>> Jackson: It is wonderful. At this season in our lives, at this stage. You tend to appreciate who your parents are more. What they've done for you. You almost start to retract everything. Where you are in your life and the wonderful things they instilled in you, you see them comfort and take fruition in your life. I'm seeing traits that my father and mother influenced me on.
>> Rivera: My friend, Cheech.
>> Jackson: I love that guy.
>> Rivera: He says as he gets older he looks at his father's face in the mirror. Do you feel that. Are you becoming like your dad?
>> Jackson: I'm very much like my father in a lot of ways.
>> Rivera: Tell us.
>> Jackson: He's very strong. He's a warrior. He's always taught us to be courageous and confident and believe in our ideals. No matter what, no star is too far to reach. And you never give up. And our mother taught us that as well, no matter what is
>> Rivera: So you are a warrior also?
>> Jackson: Absolutely.
>> Rivera: That's how you see yourself?
>> Jackson: Absolutely.
>> Rivera: Tell us more about how you see yourself?
>> Jackson: You have to tell me, no. I try to be kind, generous and to do what god wants me to do. Sometimes I pray and say where do you want me to go next god, what do you want me to go from here. I'm spiritual that way, i always have been, nothing new.
(I'm going to go back and combine the entire transcript in one post so don't be afraid to see all these posts and all these parts from me. )
(live)
>> Rivera: I'm joined with michael jackson's spokes person. How did the first week in court go?
>> Raymone Bain: It went very well. It was a long, tiring week for us. And we were all laughing today, because it is just the first week and we are a little tired. But, i think the first week went very well.
>> Rivera: What of -- tell me why, first of all the jury selection is postponed monday?
>> Bain: Regrettably our lead counsel, tom mesereau, his sister is very ill. He has taken time to be with his family. And we would like to send our prayers out to tom.
>> Rivera: Recommences thursday -- recommences thursday?
>> Bain: Yes.
>> Rivera: How is michael doing.
>> Bain: Well this was a busy week. Was focused, it seemed like there were so many people surprised about that.
>> Rivera: How focus he was?
>> Bain: Yes.
It is amazes me sometimes. People tend to believe what they read. And they have these misconceptions. He was about -- about business and very hands on in his defense.
>> Rivera: I think he should be.
Coming up michael in neverland. Standby, be right back. .
>> Rivera: On stage since the age of five, worldwide star since the age of 12, Michael jackson has enjoyed one of the most remarkable worldswo businessp there with sinatra, presley and the beatles. His album thrill the winner of seven grammys selling copies 15 years after its release. At the peak of his career his legal problems have often driven him into seclusion. Physical isolation, usually at neverland that has made him more vulnerable to attacks. He's offered us a tour of his house. It in its way a modest place. A place that celebrates children.
>> Rivera: Perhaps jackson's biggest problem that his vision of himself as a modern day peter pan does not sit well in a society scarred by stories of abusive priests, teachers and boy scout leaders. This segment we talk about the original creator of neverland.
>> Rivera: Did you are see the movie "finding neverland" or read about barre.
>> Jackson: I've all the appreciated Mr. Barre's work and I've been a fan for many, many, years.
>> Rivera: He had a rocky road, similar to you. I don't want to get too far into it. Tell us what led to the creation of neverland, the place. There's three, the peter pan's neverland, the neverland in michael jackson's mind and the physical place when i visited you. Why did you create that place?
>> Jackson: I created neverland as a home for myself and my children. And it was created simply -- it was almost done subconsciously. Like i said earlier, where can i go? It is hard. I've tried to go as myself and I've had policemen tell me put on a disguise and give me an autograph for my wife. Why are you out here like this with no security and there's fans everywhere. I do it sometimes but it is difficult.
>> Rivera: But you owned neverland before had you the kids. Was it for you, the exotic animals, for michael jackson?
>> Jackson: For me and sharing with others. It gave me a chance to do the things I never got to do when i was little. We couldn't do to movie terse and disney land. We couldn't do all those fun things. We were on tour. We were working hard. And we enjoyed it. We did enjoy it. But this allow me to have a place behind the gates where the entire world, everything that i love is there.
>> Rivera: You create like barre, this imaginary or imaginative world. Do you ever out grow something like that, michael? Do you ever think this is silly to have the llamas and choochoo trains? -- And the choo-choo trains.
>> Jackson: No it is calling god silly if you do that because God made all things great and small. So that would be wrong. Other men have their Ferraris or they have their like it's an airplane, helicopter, wherever they find bliss. My bliss is in giving and sharing and having simple innocent fun.
>> Rivera: Your homes, for all the grandeur of neverland your home is modest. And your personal style, i don't see any bling for instance, how come? How come you don't have the big diamond that says 'Michael'.
>> Jackson: Because I'm modest in that way. If i had it on i would give it way to the first kid who would walk up to me and say 'wow i like the necklace'. Here you can have it. When i was little, stars like sammy davis, fred astair, gene kelley you know, if i admired something they were wearing, if I simply said 'God I love that shirt you're wearing', they would give it to me. So I was taught that you know. That's part of a show business trait. Hand it over.
>> Rivera: Despite the glare of the media attention what is it like kids there, why do you do that? I wanted to ask you that question that day, but i pose it to you now. When you see those kids what is going on?
>> Jackson: I've traveled the world over eight times, around the world. And i do as many hospitals and/or phage -- hospitals and orphanages of course it is not covered, i do it from my heart. They have not seen mountains. Haven't been on a carousel, haven't petted a horse or llama. If i can open my gates and those gates open and that bliss, explosion of screaming and laughter from the children and they run on the riders, i say thank you god. I feel I've won god's smile of approval. Because I'm doing something that bring joy and happiness to other people.
>> Rivera: You are close to your siblings.
>> Jackson: Yes
>> Rivera: How does it affect you when they get involved like janet's super bowl flap?
>> Jackson: I can't speak for my sister.
>> Rivera: How did you respond as a brother and viewer?
>> Jackson: I was looking right at it and i didn't see it. I was at a friend's house in la jolla, and huge on the screen and i didn't even see it. I heard all of this controversy the next day. I said that's not true. I saw none of it.
>> Rivera: Do you think the controversy was over blown?
>> Jackson: Yes.
>> Rivera: Do you think it is a jackson-related phenomena or test to our time in this country?
>> Jackson: That's an interesting hypothesis too. It is both. It is hard to answer, really. I would rather not answer that one.
>> Rivera: Can you call her and say don't sweat the small stuff?
>> Jackson: Yeah, something like that. Be strong. This too shall pass. Don't worry about it. I said janet, you are too young to remember, but I once watched the oscars with david niven on it and a naked man came streaking. He didn't get there on his own it was organized. They didn't say much about that that was live around the world. Next day wait joke.
>> Rivera: Was a joke. I think there is a jackson component.
>> Jackson: You can say it. Did you.
>> Rivera: I think the jackson connection was part of the reason it was exaggerated.
>> Jackson: Thank you geraldo.
>> Rivera: Forward in this record, are they going to hear it on the radio and people going to send in their money and it is going to the kids in the indian ocean region?
>> Jackson: I would like that very much. Very much.
>> Rivera: Tell me how that act of largesse that compassion will make you feel? I feel better giving than receiving, i think it is true, in my life.
>> Jackson: Of course it is true.
>> Rivera: Explain that mechanics in your life?
>> Jackson: It is the idea, i don't know if it is the psychology of it or what, i love working, sweating and sharing and having them love it. And i always pray they like. That gives me great satisfaction as an artist.
>> (live) Rivera: Back to ramon. michael's spokesperson. Why do you think people are willing to believe the worst about your client?
>> Bain: Well, i can't say that i agree with that. That they believe the absolute worst, as a whole. For every one irate e-mail i get or an e-mail of hatred i get 40 or 50 of support. So you know, i think that it has to do with the fact that there has been so much thrown at us, out here. That we just have not been able to address, because we've been under a very strict gag order.
>> Rivera: Example?
>> Bain: For instance the leaks. The transcripts. I mean he had to go to court and get approval from the judge. There have been so many other things. Smokinggun.Com have so many things per week. We can't address them. And they compound daily. I think people sometimes, i don't say they want to believe it, but i think they get tired of it and they feel that okay f we are hearing it everyday there must be some truth to it. And a number of things we have been able to address many all of the various rumors. I take my hat off to michael. Goodness, we've had to really deal with quite a few thing this is past year. But as i said, you know, as we were refer to politics, there's a silent majority. And i think that on a whole, he's supporters far out weigh those who don't support him. But as I've said, i think that it is just because we have not been able to get ahead of the curve in some of these issues.
>> Rivera: Of all of the shots michael has taken in recent years none seem to have affected him as the parody of rapper eminem. This broadcast will rebroadcast after the super bowl. We'll be right back.
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>>> Rivera: Whether it is his pet monkey or the time his hair caught on fire filming that pepsi commercial, Michael Jackson's been the brunt of a million jokes in a hundred languages. But of all of them, none has cut deeply as the musical parody by rapper eminem. Michael talks about that plus the image attached to him as a creative has-been. Watch.
>> Rivera: Does it frustrate you professionally or personally when people say that this Jackson project flopped or that happened. Your Number Ones compilation, 7 1/2 million copies. I think that is quadruple platinum or whatever you label it and yet the characterization by some in the music business at least is thank you are not -- that it wasn't a hit. How do you feel about that?
>> Jackson: Number one, i don't know which project you are talking about.
>> Rivera: The compilation, the last one.
>> Jackson: Oh, it was a huge success.
>> Rivera: 7 1/2 million.
>>Jackson: Yes.
>> Rivera: How come that is not the headline? 'It's a huge success'.
>> Jackson: Exactly.
>> Rivera: Why is the headline….
>> Jackson: Because of negative news seems to sell more than wonderful, positive news. People would rather hear gossip I think sometimes than the truth in my last eight albums all entered the charges at number one. People like to sensationalize things and make up stories, rumors and sometimes...
>> Rivera: Does it hurt your feelings? Do you want to scream out and say 'hey wait a second, check the numbers'?
>> Jackson: It's a commonology in mankind that I don't like. That kind of envy. But then there's a beautiful side to mankind too, isn't there.
>> Rivera: But not to eminem.
>> Jackson: (laughter)
>>Rivera: We've spoken about that. I think that you should. Why not?
>>Jackson: Speak about what?
>> Rivera: About eminem and this disrespect that he showed you.
>> Rivera: Stevie wonder said that he was piling on and how really rude it was for someone who made his money from the community as eminem has to now diss the community in a sense a racist-- and I've said it -- very boldfaced, bigoted kind of presentation. Tell us how that hurt you and how you are feeling about it now.
>> Jackson: I've never met mr. Eminem. And to have him -- I've always admired him and to have him do something like that, was pretty painful, as an artist to another artist. And it is sad. Because, well i think what stevie wonder said is true. I don't want to say much more than that. But he should be ashamed of himself what he's doing. Stevie said he's bull --[ Bleep ]
>> Rivera: Stevie did.
>> Jackson: He used the word.
>> Rivera: He is bull -- [ Bleep ]
>> Jackson: I'm not saying it. Stevie said it. And Stevie is, he's amazing, one of the sweetest men in the world, you know.
>> Rivera: When stevie said that, did you feel a sense of reassurance of brotherly love there?
>> Jackson: Yes, i love stevie wonder. To me he's a musical prophet. I'll always love him. But a lot of people respect stevie and he's a very strong entity in this media and this business. When he speaks, people listen. And it was wrong of eminem to do what he did. I've been an artist most of my life, doing what i do. And I've never attacked another fellow artist. Great artists don't do that. You don't have to do that.
>> Rivera: I mentioned janet's, you know, fiasco and exaggerated response. Once again, do you think -- he only did it because he thought he could get away with it, because you're michael jackson.
>> Jackson: Yeah but it doesn't hurt. Really. It's silly. It's kind of elementary. I hope he's having fun.
>> Rivera: It is like a poo-poo joke.
>> Jackson: Yes.
>> Rivera: And it still hurts your feelings. And you don't want your kids to see it.
>> Jackson: Oh God, I would hate it if they saw it. I would hate that.
>> Rivera: Do you want them to know that?
>> Jackson: To know about it? No.
>> (live) Rivera: When we come back, michael addresses the charges pending against him here in Santa Maria after this.
>>> (live) Rivera: Aside from being repeated 10:00 pacific time tonight this entire hour will also be rebroadcast tomorrow night, following the super bowl at 11:00 eastern, 8:00 pacific time sunday night. Before Raymone and I offer some final thoughts, michael addresses the very serious charges against him. And that blatant grand jury leak that has poisoned the air around this case, even as the jury is being selected. Here's Michael.
>>Rivera: Finally, you know we studiously avoided the case. We've not talked at all about the case that is pending. You are under this gag order. I know that you have received permission from the judge to read a statement.
>> Jackson: Yes.
>> Rivera: You know I hate to end an interview that way. But if you would like to read that statement now, i think it is important.
>> Jackson: Sure. In the last two weeks, a large amount of ugly malicious information has been released into the media about me. Apparently, this information was leaked through transcripts in a grand jury proceeding, where neither my lawyers nor i ever appeared. The information is disgusting, and false. Years ago, i allowed a family to visit and spend time at neverland. Neverland is my home. I allowed this family into my home because they told me their son was ill with cancer and needed my help. Through the years I've helped thousands of children who were ill or in distress. These events have caused a nightmare for my family, my children and me. I never intend to place myself in so vulnerable a position ever again. I love my community. And i have great faith in our justice system. Please keep an open mind and let me have my day in court. I deserve a fair trial like every other american citizen. I will be acquitted and vindicated, when the truth is told.
>> Rivera: Anything else you would like to say?
>> Jackson: No -- yes, there is something. I would love to have the public's prayers for my children and myself.
>> Rivera: Ok buddy, you got i.
>> Jackson: Thank you.
>> Rivera: You got it.
>> Jackson: Thank you.
Source: Fox
06/02/2005 10:42:48 Geraldo Interview Transcript
The following transcript is taken from Geraldo's interview with Michael Jackson:
>> Michael Jackson: I'm doing fine geraldo, how are you?
>> Geraldo Rivera: Despite whatever goes on in the world you are doing okay?
>> Jackson: I'm doing well, thank you.
>> Rivera: It wonderful seeing you with the children that is the real michael jackson. You with your own children, one in diapers the other two toddlers. I don't know how you manage all of that
>> Jackson: I enjoy taking care of my children myself. It is fun, that's why i had them. So I can take care of them. It is great relief for me, it is pleasure. It keeps me happy and laughing. -- Laughing and they are wonderful, sweet innocent children, they really are.
>> Rivera: I saw you as the arbitrator between the nickelodeon channel and the Disney channel. Difficult problems to solve there.
>> Jackson: Yes.
>> Rivera: But you have such a normal life there. It is sweet to so. -- Sweet to see.
>> Jackson: Thank you. They bring me that.
>> Rivera: Tell me what the children mean to you, your own children?
>> Jackson: It hard to put into words. They mean everything. They are the world for me. I wake up and I'm ready for the day because of them. I give them breakfast, change diapers. They want to read. We do a lot of reading. We play hide-and-seek and blindfold. I have a wonderful time with them.
>> Rivera: You can create a world that at least begins to seem normal. They don't know any other world, obviously.
>> Jackson: I do my best for sure.
>> Rivera: That is obviously a priority to you?
>> Jackson: Yes, of course. I want to be the best father in the world, of course.
>> Rivera: Do they know who you are or what you mean to people?
>> Jackson: Yes, they do. They've been on tours with me. And in limousines. And a sea of fans.
>> Rivera: Do they like it?
>> Jackson: They find it sighting. They want to get on stage. They bug me to go on stage with me. Pretty soon I'm going to take them on with me and let world see them for the first time.
>> Rivera: They are going to say daddy I want to go home and watch nickelodeon.
>> Jackson:Probably.
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>> Rivera: How do you feel income the recording studio again, focusing on the music again. It is a relief, in a sense?
>> Jackson: It is a great relief. It is what i do. It makes me feel like I'm totally at home. I'm into my own. This is what I'm here for. Any of the arts like that, could be film, music, any type of art, i love it.
>> Rivera: When you are being the "king of pop" that's when you are most comfortable or is it the creative process?
>> Jackson: Creative process, yes i love creating. I'm obsessed with creating.
>> Rivera: I saw you and randy the way you guys react. Reminisce san of the way my brothers and i are together. Who is top dog?
>> Jackson: Randy.
>> Rivera: That's not what i saw. But you trust your family?
>> JacksoN: Of course, you have to do.
>> Rivera: Is it blood thicker than water thing?
>> Jackson: Yeah, family is everything to us. It is love. It is what we were taught. And values and we are friends at the end of the day which is important. Other than what the public or press say, we are friends. We love each other very much.
>> Rivera: Is the family still closely knit despite the tabloid stuff?
>> Jackson: That is sensationalism.
>> Rivera: How do you deal with everything in your life being magnified, exaggerated?
>> Jackson: It is not true. It is look liking 4 at science fiction. It is sad when other people have to read those things and believe it.
>> Rivera: You feel like holding a press conference every week and saying this is the rumor de jure.
>> Jackson: No, because i know the truth will re-- prevail and I'm about truth.
>> Rivera: I can't find anyone who has been more frivolously sued than you for the most outrageous reasons.
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>> Rivera: One of your attorneys told me that a woman called bill police jean jackson called and said, -- called billy jean jackson, called and said, I'm the wife. Billy jean from your hit song. First of all, does it affect you?
>> Jackson: Does it affect me?
>> Rivera: Yeah.
>> Jackson: Yes, but I'm, I'm i am in a way, I'm very strong. I have rhinoceros skin, but I'm human. Anything can hurt like that. But I'm very strong. I just don't want people hearing about such false information.
>> Rivera: For instance did you father quadruplets last year.
They became twins. I don't know what happened to the other two, maybe in were abducted by aliens.
>> Jackson: Heard about that story. They said I'm hiding them or something. Another made-up rumor. The bigger the star, the bigger the target. I'm not saying I'm the super duper star, I'm not saying that I'm saying the fact that people come at celebrities, we are targets. But, truth always prevails. And i believe in that. I believe in god.
>> Rivera: Does that faith sustain you?
>> Jackson: Of course it does.
>> Rivera: How about friendship?
>> Jackson: What about friendship?
>> Rivera: Do you rely on friends have people stayed with you through thick and thin. Who are your best friend?
>> Jackson: My children. My family, my brothers and my sisters. Most people have.
>> Rivera: Do you want to mention the names of the true blue?
>> Jackson: Faithful, you wouldn't know them.
>> Rivera: Elizabeth Taylor.
>> Jackson: She is very loyal. I was just at her house. We have wonderful talks on the phone at night, several times a week sometimes.
>> Rivera: How long have you two been friends?
>> Jackson: I've known Elizabeth closely since which was 16.
>> Rivera: And you've been make music since you were five. In your fifth decade, 41 years of making music.
>> Jackson: Yes.
>> Rivera: Ever get sick of it?
>> Jackson: No, not at all. I never get enough of it.
>> Rivera: You ever get sick of randy?
(laughter)
>> Rivera: Never. He's here, ladies and gentlemen.
>> Jackson: He's been very supportive. Amazingly, brilliant, really.
>> Rivera: They are all different, your whole family crazy, eccentric?
>> Jackson: Every one is different. Like any family you have the different elements.
Different. That's what makes it a family.
>> Rivera: When you have such intense any, how do you live any kind of normal life? How do you have fun outside of your own prompt?
>> Jackson: I don't. I go off property sometimes, but not all the time. I create my world behind the gates. I can't go to the local movie theater or the park or pick up ice cream at market, corner store. You want to create that world behind the gates. And that's what i try and do. It is not just for me, if i could share with my family or friends, i do.
>> Rivera: And that necessity for some privacy drives all these -- crazy rumors and speculations. Difficult balancing act that you have to endure?
>> Jackson: Yes, comes with celebrity.
>> Rivera: You're not complaining, are you?
>> Jackson: No.
>> Rivera: I don't, I try rub it off. I don't know what I'm the king of.
>> Jackson: King of journalism.
>> Rivera: What is it about children -- king of journalism. (laughter)
What is it about children in distress your own fatherhood that motivates that?
>> Jackson: Caring. Jesus said bring on the children, take care of others, take care of old people. We were raised with those values, very important values and my family and I. They continue strong in us today.
>> Rivera: When we come back, Jackson talks about a musical reunion with his brothers for a wonderful cause that is after this.
>> Jackson: We are family, that's what we are. And my mother is strong. My father is strong. Even stronger together. We didn't know that from those humble beginnings success would bring about this.
>> (live) Rivera: I've taken firm and public positions on every case from O.J. Simpson to the Clinton impeachment. None has generated the negative attention-this one. Spirited exchange last night with jay leno i figured out why. Every one of us has formed an indelible image of michael jackson over the years. From his plastic surgeries to the changing skin color to what some consider his bizarre public or private behavior. As i said to jay leno last night, none of that is relevant to the question of whether or not he molested the boy. Jackson talks about what is ahead for him -- professionally, if he beat this is case.
>> Rivera: What about movies? We have not seen you on the big screen in a while.
>> Jackson: I will be directing myself. I love directing. I love creativity. When an -- i love directing. I love creativity. If an artist can express himself the way he sees it should be done. I'm a visionary if i can give that, i do. That's what i love to do with music, film. I love the arts.
>> Rivera: Do think art has a role in real life? Specifically referring to this record and tsunami relief?
>> Jackson: Yes.
>> Rivera: You are doing this song for tsunami relief many tell us the moment you recognized this disasterdiwaso eraornary?Or
>> Jackson: I saw it the day after christmas. As the numbers kept building and escalating it became phenomial no andeve it wasE. I was amazed. I i thought I should do something. Th gave us talent for to give and help people and give back. So my brothers and i decided to put a song together.
>> Rivera: Would you pick up the phone and say hey let's get together.
>> Jackson: You say hey we want to do something in the studio for the tsunami victims, let's get together. And they say great, let's do it.
>> Rivera: However you are back, i think people will appreciate you are back. Wouldn't you exhault in a world where you could concentrate on your art and kids?
>> Jackson: I would love it. That's what drives me is the medium. The art. I love it. And that's the world I'm most come tame -- I'm not comfortable in.
>> Rivera: In gary, indiana, did you ever expect where your world would be as a 46-year-old man?
>> Jackson: I never thought about it, really. I knew i wanted to do something wonderful and to help people. But i never really clearly thought about it when i was really little. I just sang and danced and didn't understand why people were applauding and clapping and screaming. You don't know why.
>> Rivera: When you grow up like that on stage, when do you understand where you fit into society?
>> Jackson: I think it takes longer when you get older, you start to have a more rounded personality. And your brain starts to grow and you start reasoning and understanding more things and researching. That's how it happened for me.
>> Rivera: Isn't it nice to have a conversation on television where people can hear you being ordinary, and reasonable?
>> Jackson: I'm like this all the time. I'm just being myself. God bless you, thank you.
>> Rivera: At a certain point, michael jackson and the brothers jackson kind of separated artisticly. Is this a moment in your life where you are coming back together? What is the big plan? What is the big picture, at this stage in your life, what has been left unachieved? What would you like to do?
>> Jackson: There are a lot of surprises. Film. I love film.
>> Rivera: What else?
>> Jackson: Well, it is not just so much film, it is innovating it and pioneering it. Taking the medium to a new place.
>> (video: Just follow me, i got this.)
>> Rivera: You're not talking about music videos now?
>> Jackson: No. Because i used the music video medium as a short film medium to take me to the next level. And I'm having a lot of fun, you know.
>> I know who you are.
>> (live) Rivera: Upcoming segment michael talks about his dad and the future of his music.
>>>(live) Rivera: Welcome back. This segment begins with michael's assessment of where he fits in the current music scene.
>> Rivera: Do you ever look back and contemplate thrill biggest selling musical performance ever? Do you ever get your arms around that?
>> Jackson: I think about it, sometimes. But i try not to think about it too hard. Because i don't want my subconscious mind to think, I've done it all. 'You are done now'. There's so much. That's why i don't put awards or trophies in my house. You won't find a gold record anywhere in my house. It makes you feel accomplished. I walls want to be feel, no i haven't done it yet.
>> Rivera: King of pop, now i look at some of these performers. 50 cent and another one, i forget his name, they are well-known because they survived, you know, violent attacks where they almost died. And they are into hip-hop. It is a different remember now in popular music. Do you think that you will be more like them, more urban kind of? Or do you think the world will come back to more pop and traditional rock?
>> Jackson: Great music and great melodies are immortal. Fashion change, culture changes, customs change. Great music is immortal. We still listen to mozart, tchaikovsky, any of the greats. It is like great sculpture or great painting, it is forever. For generations upon generations to appreciate forever. And i know that's a fact.
>> Rivera: I interviewed barbra streisand at one point she was going to do duets with other popular artists. She changed the tempo to surprise people. Would you ever consider more of a hip-hop approach?
>> Jackson: I've done a lot of it?
>> Rivera: Rapping. You want to rap now?
>> Jackson: Don't really rap, but i could rap. I've written songs with rap versus -- with rap verses in them. They are better at it than i am. That's why i won't compete with them.
>> Rivera: Despite your isolated life and the fact you've been a star so long you still have what appears to be a profound and passionate relationship with the community.
>> (video: Welcome to Neverland. And merry christmas. And have a wonderful day, okay.)
>> (video: Thank you!)
>> Rivera: Does that support you, does that sustain you, do you agree with me?
>> Jackson: Yes, agree. It is important to love your neighbors.
>> Rivera: Where does that almost instinct love of yours come from, where do you think?
>> Jackson: I think it comes from my mother and god. Values my frnstill in us as youth. She was always there with the bible, teaching us. We go to service all the time. Like four time a week . And I'm so glad we did that. Those values are very important. I don't know if I could have done as well without them.
>> Rivera: Do you still spend time with mom and dad?
Not far from here now?
>> Jackson: That's right.
>> Rivera: What is that relationship about? I'm so close to my mom.
>> Jackson: It is wonderful. At this season in our lives, at this stage. You tend to appreciate who your parents are more. What they've done for you. You almost start to retract everything. Where you are in your life and the wonderful things they instilled in you, you see them comfort and take fruition in your life. I'm seeing traits that my father and mother influenced me on.
>> Rivera: My friend, Cheech.
>> Jackson: I love that guy.
>> Rivera: He says as he gets older he looks at his father's face in the mirror. Do you feel that. Are you becoming like your dad?
>> Jackson: I'm very much like my father in a lot of ways.
>> Rivera: Tell us.
>> Jackson: He's very strong. He's a warrior. He's always taught us to be courageous and confident and believe in our ideals. No matter what, no star is too far to reach. And you never give up. And our mother taught us that as well, no matter what is
>> Rivera: So you are a warrior also?
>> Jackson: Absolutely.
>> Rivera: That's how you see yourself?
>> Jackson: Absolutely.
>> Rivera: Tell us more about how you see yourself?
>> Jackson: You have to tell me, no. I try to be kind, generous and to do what god wants me to do. Sometimes I pray and say where do you want me to go next god, what do you want me to go from here. I'm spiritual that way, i always have been, nothing new.
(I'm going to go back and combine the entire transcript in one post so don't be afraid to see all these posts and all these parts from me. )
(live)
>> Rivera: I'm joined with michael jackson's spokes person. How did the first week in court go?
>> Raymone Bain: It went very well. It was a long, tiring week for us. And we were all laughing today, because it is just the first week and we are a little tired. But, i think the first week went very well.
>> Rivera: What of -- tell me why, first of all the jury selection is postponed monday?
>> Bain: Regrettably our lead counsel, tom mesereau, his sister is very ill. He has taken time to be with his family. And we would like to send our prayers out to tom.
>> Rivera: Recommences thursday -- recommences thursday?
>> Bain: Yes.
>> Rivera: How is michael doing.
>> Bain: Well this was a busy week. Was focused, it seemed like there were so many people surprised about that.
>> Rivera: How focus he was?
>> Bain: Yes.
It is amazes me sometimes. People tend to believe what they read. And they have these misconceptions. He was about -- about business and very hands on in his defense.
>> Rivera: I think he should be.
Coming up michael in neverland. Standby, be right back. .
>> Rivera: On stage since the age of five, worldwide star since the age of 12, Michael jackson has enjoyed one of the most remarkable worldswo businessp there with sinatra, presley and the beatles. His album thrill the winner of seven grammys selling copies 15 years after its release. At the peak of his career his legal problems have often driven him into seclusion. Physical isolation, usually at neverland that has made him more vulnerable to attacks. He's offered us a tour of his house. It in its way a modest place. A place that celebrates children.
>> Rivera: Perhaps jackson's biggest problem that his vision of himself as a modern day peter pan does not sit well in a society scarred by stories of abusive priests, teachers and boy scout leaders. This segment we talk about the original creator of neverland.
>> Rivera: Did you are see the movie "finding neverland" or read about barre.
>> Jackson: I've all the appreciated Mr. Barre's work and I've been a fan for many, many, years.
>> Rivera: He had a rocky road, similar to you. I don't want to get too far into it. Tell us what led to the creation of neverland, the place. There's three, the peter pan's neverland, the neverland in michael jackson's mind and the physical place when i visited you. Why did you create that place?
>> Jackson: I created neverland as a home for myself and my children. And it was created simply -- it was almost done subconsciously. Like i said earlier, where can i go? It is hard. I've tried to go as myself and I've had policemen tell me put on a disguise and give me an autograph for my wife. Why are you out here like this with no security and there's fans everywhere. I do it sometimes but it is difficult.
>> Rivera: But you owned neverland before had you the kids. Was it for you, the exotic animals, for michael jackson?
>> Jackson: For me and sharing with others. It gave me a chance to do the things I never got to do when i was little. We couldn't do to movie terse and disney land. We couldn't do all those fun things. We were on tour. We were working hard. And we enjoyed it. We did enjoy it. But this allow me to have a place behind the gates where the entire world, everything that i love is there.
>> Rivera: You create like barre, this imaginary or imaginative world. Do you ever out grow something like that, michael? Do you ever think this is silly to have the llamas and choochoo trains? -- And the choo-choo trains.
>> Jackson: No it is calling god silly if you do that because God made all things great and small. So that would be wrong. Other men have their Ferraris or they have their like it's an airplane, helicopter, wherever they find bliss. My bliss is in giving and sharing and having simple innocent fun.
>> Rivera: Your homes, for all the grandeur of neverland your home is modest. And your personal style, i don't see any bling for instance, how come? How come you don't have the big diamond that says 'Michael'.
>> Jackson: Because I'm modest in that way. If i had it on i would give it way to the first kid who would walk up to me and say 'wow i like the necklace'. Here you can have it. When i was little, stars like sammy davis, fred astair, gene kelley you know, if i admired something they were wearing, if I simply said 'God I love that shirt you're wearing', they would give it to me. So I was taught that you know. That's part of a show business trait. Hand it over.
>> Rivera: Despite the glare of the media attention what is it like kids there, why do you do that? I wanted to ask you that question that day, but i pose it to you now. When you see those kids what is going on?
>> Jackson: I've traveled the world over eight times, around the world. And i do as many hospitals and/or phage -- hospitals and orphanages of course it is not covered, i do it from my heart. They have not seen mountains. Haven't been on a carousel, haven't petted a horse or llama. If i can open my gates and those gates open and that bliss, explosion of screaming and laughter from the children and they run on the riders, i say thank you god. I feel I've won god's smile of approval. Because I'm doing something that bring joy and happiness to other people.
>> Rivera: You are close to your siblings.
>> Jackson: Yes
>> Rivera: How does it affect you when they get involved like janet's super bowl flap?
>> Jackson: I can't speak for my sister.
>> Rivera: How did you respond as a brother and viewer?
>> Jackson: I was looking right at it and i didn't see it. I was at a friend's house in la jolla, and huge on the screen and i didn't even see it. I heard all of this controversy the next day. I said that's not true. I saw none of it.
>> Rivera: Do you think the controversy was over blown?
>> Jackson: Yes.
>> Rivera: Do you think it is a jackson-related phenomena or test to our time in this country?
>> Jackson: That's an interesting hypothesis too. It is both. It is hard to answer, really. I would rather not answer that one.
>> Rivera: Can you call her and say don't sweat the small stuff?
>> Jackson: Yeah, something like that. Be strong. This too shall pass. Don't worry about it. I said janet, you are too young to remember, but I once watched the oscars with david niven on it and a naked man came streaking. He didn't get there on his own it was organized. They didn't say much about that that was live around the world. Next day wait joke.
>> Rivera: Was a joke. I think there is a jackson component.
>> Jackson: You can say it. Did you.
>> Rivera: I think the jackson connection was part of the reason it was exaggerated.
>> Jackson: Thank you geraldo.
>> Rivera: Forward in this record, are they going to hear it on the radio and people going to send in their money and it is going to the kids in the indian ocean region?
>> Jackson: I would like that very much. Very much.
>> Rivera: Tell me how that act of largesse that compassion will make you feel? I feel better giving than receiving, i think it is true, in my life.
>> Jackson: Of course it is true.
>> Rivera: Explain that mechanics in your life?
>> Jackson: It is the idea, i don't know if it is the psychology of it or what, i love working, sweating and sharing and having them love it. And i always pray they like. That gives me great satisfaction as an artist.
>> (live) Rivera: Back to ramon. michael's spokesperson. Why do you think people are willing to believe the worst about your client?
>> Bain: Well, i can't say that i agree with that. That they believe the absolute worst, as a whole. For every one irate e-mail i get or an e-mail of hatred i get 40 or 50 of support. So you know, i think that it has to do with the fact that there has been so much thrown at us, out here. That we just have not been able to address, because we've been under a very strict gag order.
>> Rivera: Example?
>> Bain: For instance the leaks. The transcripts. I mean he had to go to court and get approval from the judge. There have been so many other things. Smokinggun.Com have so many things per week. We can't address them. And they compound daily. I think people sometimes, i don't say they want to believe it, but i think they get tired of it and they feel that okay f we are hearing it everyday there must be some truth to it. And a number of things we have been able to address many all of the various rumors. I take my hat off to michael. Goodness, we've had to really deal with quite a few thing this is past year. But as i said, you know, as we were refer to politics, there's a silent majority. And i think that on a whole, he's supporters far out weigh those who don't support him. But as I've said, i think that it is just because we have not been able to get ahead of the curve in some of these issues.
>> Rivera: Of all of the shots michael has taken in recent years none seem to have affected him as the parody of rapper eminem. This broadcast will rebroadcast after the super bowl. We'll be right back.
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>>> Rivera: Whether it is his pet monkey or the time his hair caught on fire filming that pepsi commercial, Michael Jackson's been the brunt of a million jokes in a hundred languages. But of all of them, none has cut deeply as the musical parody by rapper eminem. Michael talks about that plus the image attached to him as a creative has-been. Watch.
>> Rivera: Does it frustrate you professionally or personally when people say that this Jackson project flopped or that happened. Your Number Ones compilation, 7 1/2 million copies. I think that is quadruple platinum or whatever you label it and yet the characterization by some in the music business at least is thank you are not -- that it wasn't a hit. How do you feel about that?
>> Jackson: Number one, i don't know which project you are talking about.
>> Rivera: The compilation, the last one.
>> Jackson: Oh, it was a huge success.
>> Rivera: 7 1/2 million.
>>Jackson: Yes.
>> Rivera: How come that is not the headline? 'It's a huge success'.
>> Jackson: Exactly.
>> Rivera: Why is the headline….
>> Jackson: Because of negative news seems to sell more than wonderful, positive news. People would rather hear gossip I think sometimes than the truth in my last eight albums all entered the charges at number one. People like to sensationalize things and make up stories, rumors and sometimes...
>> Rivera: Does it hurt your feelings? Do you want to scream out and say 'hey wait a second, check the numbers'?
>> Jackson: It's a commonology in mankind that I don't like. That kind of envy. But then there's a beautiful side to mankind too, isn't there.
>> Rivera: But not to eminem.
>> Jackson: (laughter)
>>Rivera: We've spoken about that. I think that you should. Why not?
>>Jackson: Speak about what?
>> Rivera: About eminem and this disrespect that he showed you.
>> Rivera: Stevie wonder said that he was piling on and how really rude it was for someone who made his money from the community as eminem has to now diss the community in a sense a racist-- and I've said it -- very boldfaced, bigoted kind of presentation. Tell us how that hurt you and how you are feeling about it now.
>> Jackson: I've never met mr. Eminem. And to have him -- I've always admired him and to have him do something like that, was pretty painful, as an artist to another artist. And it is sad. Because, well i think what stevie wonder said is true. I don't want to say much more than that. But he should be ashamed of himself what he's doing. Stevie said he's bull --[ Bleep ]
>> Rivera: Stevie did.
>> Jackson: He used the word.
>> Rivera: He is bull -- [ Bleep ]
>> Jackson: I'm not saying it. Stevie said it. And Stevie is, he's amazing, one of the sweetest men in the world, you know.
>> Rivera: When stevie said that, did you feel a sense of reassurance of brotherly love there?
>> Jackson: Yes, i love stevie wonder. To me he's a musical prophet. I'll always love him. But a lot of people respect stevie and he's a very strong entity in this media and this business. When he speaks, people listen. And it was wrong of eminem to do what he did. I've been an artist most of my life, doing what i do. And I've never attacked another fellow artist. Great artists don't do that. You don't have to do that.
>> Rivera: I mentioned janet's, you know, fiasco and exaggerated response. Once again, do you think -- he only did it because he thought he could get away with it, because you're michael jackson.
>> Jackson: Yeah but it doesn't hurt. Really. It's silly. It's kind of elementary. I hope he's having fun.
>> Rivera: It is like a poo-poo joke.
>> Jackson: Yes.
>> Rivera: And it still hurts your feelings. And you don't want your kids to see it.
>> Jackson: Oh God, I would hate it if they saw it. I would hate that.
>> Rivera: Do you want them to know that?
>> Jackson: To know about it? No.
>> (live) Rivera: When we come back, michael addresses the charges pending against him here in Santa Maria after this.
>>> (live) Rivera: Aside from being repeated 10:00 pacific time tonight this entire hour will also be rebroadcast tomorrow night, following the super bowl at 11:00 eastern, 8:00 pacific time sunday night. Before Raymone and I offer some final thoughts, michael addresses the very serious charges against him. And that blatant grand jury leak that has poisoned the air around this case, even as the jury is being selected. Here's Michael.
>>Rivera: Finally, you know we studiously avoided the case. We've not talked at all about the case that is pending. You are under this gag order. I know that you have received permission from the judge to read a statement.
>> Jackson: Yes.
>> Rivera: You know I hate to end an interview that way. But if you would like to read that statement now, i think it is important.
>> Jackson: Sure. In the last two weeks, a large amount of ugly malicious information has been released into the media about me. Apparently, this information was leaked through transcripts in a grand jury proceeding, where neither my lawyers nor i ever appeared. The information is disgusting, and false. Years ago, i allowed a family to visit and spend time at neverland. Neverland is my home. I allowed this family into my home because they told me their son was ill with cancer and needed my help. Through the years I've helped thousands of children who were ill or in distress. These events have caused a nightmare for my family, my children and me. I never intend to place myself in so vulnerable a position ever again. I love my community. And i have great faith in our justice system. Please keep an open mind and let me have my day in court. I deserve a fair trial like every other american citizen. I will be acquitted and vindicated, when the truth is told.
>> Rivera: Anything else you would like to say?
>> Jackson: No -- yes, there is something. I would love to have the public's prayers for my children and myself.
>> Rivera: Ok buddy, you got i.
>> Jackson: Thank you.
>> Rivera: You got it.
>> Jackson: Thank you.
Source: Fox
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Galantly he chickened out...
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
Lichtelijk off-topic fotosoepje:
If you have a problem, if no-one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team
De zaak heeft een week vertraging opgelopen door het plotseling overlijden van de zus van Thomas Mesereau, Michaels advocaat.
Galantly he chickened out...
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
bronquote:Moby – 'Michael Jackson's Video Is Terrifying'
Moby has branded Michael Jackson's video appeal as the creepiest thing he's ever seen.
Speaking as a guest on the return of TRL last night, the bald-headed hit-maker let rip on the video appeal released by Jackson earlier in the day, in which MJ called for the public to give him "a fair trial like any other American citizen."
Moby saw a clip of the video on MTV News as he sat in the TRL green room. "That video was terrifying," said Moby. "That was the creepiest thing I've ever seen. That was so scary!"
"He (MJ) looks like Elizabeth Taylor hit by a truck. Does he know how terrifying he is? Does he know that kids have nightmares about him? It's really scary."
Yvonne riep ergens: [b]Static is gewoon Static, je leeft met hem of niet.
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.[/b]
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.[/b]
Off-topicquote:
Galantly he chickened out...
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
quote:FELDMAN SUBPOENAED, TELLS ABOUT JACKSON FRIENDSHIP
Thu, Feb 10, 2005, 11:02 AM PT
LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - Corey Feldman, whose most recent claim to fame is as one of the first has-been celebs on "The Surreal Life," is in the spotlight once more.
The former child star has been subpoenaed to testify in the high-profile Michael Jackson child molestation trial, reports ABC News.
The news comes on the heels of Celebrity Justice revealing details of an audio interview conducted with Feldman and Santa Barbara sheriffs. Recorded in December 1993, the interview was to be used by the prosecution during Jackson's first molestation trial, which was eventually settled for $23 million.
In the recording, Feldman stands by his pal, reiterating that the King of Pop did nothing inappropriate during the friendship, which included two sleepovers.
"Nothing ever happened with Michael and me," he says. "Believe me. If there was something that I'd been hiding for all these years, then I would want nothing more than to bring it out right now, to make sure that Michael got the help that he needed."
He adds that he has a personal incentive to report any improper behavior, if any took place.
"I myself was molested so I know what it's like to go through those feelings, and believe me, the person who molested me, if this was him that did that to me, this would be a different story because I would be out there, up front, doing something immediately to have this man given what was due to him," he explains.
In the recording, investigators questioning the actor push for details about the two sleepovers. Feldman insists that everything was innocent for both visits. During the first, at a hotel near Disneyland, Feldman slept in the bed while Jackson slept in a cot he had hotel staff send up.
The second sleepover took place at the pop star's Encino home. The visit included a spell in the Jacuzzi, where both wore bathing trunks and talked.
"He never did anything out of line," Feldman insists when one of the sheriffs expresses doubt. "I mean, the closest he ever came to touching me was maybe slapping me on the leg once to talk about that I had lost weight."
Feldman changes his tune, however, in an interview with "20/20," which will air on ABC on Friday night, Feb. 11. In an excerpt for the show, Feldman reveals that he's had a "sickening realization" that his friendship with Jackson wasn't as innocent as he previously thought.
Feldman, 33, shot to success in the '80s in films such as "The Lost Boys," "Stand by Me" and "License to Drive." He enjoyed a public friendship with Jackson and even mimics his dancing style in the 1989 body-switching comedy "Dream a Little Dream."
Jackson has pleaded "not guilty" to charges of child molestation, administering an intoxicating agent, and conspiring to commit child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion. He is free on $3 million bail. If he is found guilty, he faces more than 20 years in prison.
BRON: www.zap2it.com
Ik hoor net op BBC dat de verdediging overweegt de volgende getuigen op te roepen:
Liz Taylor, Barbra Streisand, en nu komt ie: Stevie Wonder.
Ik weet zijn antwoord al, hij heeft Michael nooit met kindertjes zien rotzooien.
Liz Taylor, Barbra Streisand, en nu komt ie: Stevie Wonder.
Ik weet zijn antwoord al, hij heeft Michael nooit met kindertjes zien rotzooien.
Die Corey: afgeschreven acteurtje die opnieuw in de spotlights probeert te komen zeker
Liz Taylor op laten draven lijkt me niet snugger. Ik zou zo'n beetje iedereen die gek genoeg is om dat wijf te laten getuigen meteen schuldig verklaren
Liz Taylor op laten draven lijkt me niet snugger. Ik zou zo'n beetje iedereen die gek genoeg is om dat wijf te laten getuigen meteen schuldig verklaren
Haters everywhere but I don't really care.
ahaha, stevie wonder "i never saw him do anything inappropriate to little kids you know" liz taylors gezicht zit veel te strak om nog normaal te kunnen getuigen.. hezz zuuchzz a greatzzz perzzzonnn
"i never saw him do anything inappropriate to little kids you know" 
liz taylors gezicht zit veel te strak om nog normaal te kunnen getuigen.. hezz zuuchzz a greatzzz perzzzonnn
De zaak wordt weer een week uitgesteld, nu omdat Jackson een zware griep onder de leden heeft.
Ik denk dat de stress hem langzamerhand ook parten begint te spelen.
Ik denk dat de stress hem langzamerhand ook parten begint te spelen.
Galantly he chickened out...
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
Nou, die 'sickening realization' is dus blijkbaar dat Jackson hem porno heeft laten zien. Zo wil Martin Bashir (hij weer) het althans laten overkomen door zijn ontzettend verdachte manier van vragen stellen.quote:Op vrijdag 11 februari 2005 00:35 schreef Iwan1976 het volgende:
Feldman reveals that he's had a "sickening realization" that his friendship with Jackson wasn't as innocent as he previously thought.
“He showed you pornography. He showed you images of genitalia with sexual diseases. What was he doing? Was he grooming you?”
Plaatjes van geslachtsdelen met SOA's, sinds wanneer is dat porno? En dan beweren dat Jackson hem daarmee wilde verleiden!?
Dit zegt Corey Feldman:
"We went to his apartment, and I noticed a book that he had out on his coffee table. The book contained pictures of grown men and women naked. And the book was focused on venereal diseases and the genitalia."
Feldman said the singer sat down with him and explained the photos to him.
Een medisch boek dus! En Jackson heeft het niet laten zien, maar Feldman kwam het zelf tegen en toen heeft Jackson hem uitgelegd wat erin stond, in plaats van er stiekem over te doen en het snel weg te leggen.
Bashir is dus andermaal lekker bezig
Galantly he chickened out...
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
Heeft hij nog de griep btw?
Waarom heb ik stiekem het idee dat Michael een ernstige ziekte heeft zoals aids?
Of gaat hier al een topic over....?
Waarom heb ik stiekem het idee dat Michael een ernstige ziekte heeft zoals aids?
Of gaat hier al een topic over....?
Ga eens naar www.thehungersite.com en klik elke dag een keer.
ik heb ze gelezen.
de manier waarop die jongens ondervraagd worden biedt weinig ruimte tot liegen, verzinsels.
deze manier van ondervragen, daarbij loopt een kind zo tegen de lamp, gaat zichzelf tegenspreken etc.
wat ik ook stuitend vond naast het geruk van MJ, is dat alcohol in zo'n blikje gedoe en de manier waarop hij dat joch konstant alcohol zat te voeren in feite.
MJ is als je het zo leest dus niet alleen konstant onder de invloed van pillen, maar zuipt ook nog eens aardig wat weg en schenkt kinderen ook nog eens lekker bij, zodat ze half versuft in zijn bed belanden
en dan dat alarm dat afgaat als je in de buurt van zijn slaapkamer komt
MJ wist dus precies wanneer hij betrapt zou kunnen worden
vreemd ook die moeder en andere familie die konstant apart gehouden werden, in een apart vertrek, aparte woning op het terrein vertoefden.
laten we duidelijk zijn, MJ is niet goed bij zijn paasei, maar die moeder !????????
waarom laat je je kinderen alleen met een vent van in de veertig, die ze bij hem op de kamer laat slapen?
waarom gaan er niet meteen alarm bellen rinkelen als je ene zoontje niet meer daar wilt slapen, ook al zegt hij niet waarom.
waarom haal je je andere kind niet weg??!
de manier waarop die jongens ondervraagd worden biedt weinig ruimte tot liegen, verzinsels.
deze manier van ondervragen, daarbij loopt een kind zo tegen de lamp, gaat zichzelf tegenspreken etc.
wat ik ook stuitend vond naast het geruk van MJ, is dat alcohol in zo'n blikje gedoe en de manier waarop hij dat joch konstant alcohol zat te voeren in feite.
MJ is als je het zo leest dus niet alleen konstant onder de invloed van pillen, maar zuipt ook nog eens aardig wat weg en schenkt kinderen ook nog eens lekker bij, zodat ze half versuft in zijn bed belanden
en dan dat alarm dat afgaat als je in de buurt van zijn slaapkamer komt
MJ wist dus precies wanneer hij betrapt zou kunnen worden
vreemd ook die moeder en andere familie die konstant apart gehouden werden, in een apart vertrek, aparte woning op het terrein vertoefden.
laten we duidelijk zijn, MJ is niet goed bij zijn paasei, maar die moeder !????????
waarom laat je je kinderen alleen met een vent van in de veertig, die ze bij hem op de kamer laat slapen?
waarom gaan er niet meteen alarm bellen rinkelen als je ene zoontje niet meer daar wilt slapen, ook al zegt hij niet waarom.
waarom haal je je andere kind niet weg??!
[i]"you left me standing here, a long long time ago"[/i]
Indeed.quote:Op zondag 20 februari 2005 13:52 schreef milagro het volgende:
ik heb ze gelezen.
de manier waarop die jongens ondervraagd worden biedt weinig ruimte tot liegen, verzinsels.
deze manier van ondervragen, daarbij loopt een kind zo tegen de lamp, gaat zichzelf tegenspreken etc.
Wat ik tot nu toe heb gelezen is misselijkmakend.
Het beetje twijfel wat ik nog had is voorgoed verdwenen. Hij is guilty as hell.
Het is moeilijk vriendelijkheid weg te geven, het wordt bijna altijd teruggegeven.
Smoking Gun presenteert op hun website de getuigenissen van de jongen en zijn familie die een aanklacht tegen Jackson hebben ingediend.
http://thesmokinggun.com/michaeljackson/010605jackson.html
Het gaat om ruim 1900 pagina's, dus wie interesse heeft is gewaarschuwd.
In het kort komt het hier op neer: Het slachtoffer, John Doe voor de gelegenheid, vertelt hoe hij tijdens zijn ziekenhuisopname in contact kwam met Jackson (hierna te noemen MJ) die hem op een gegeven moment belde. Er waren wel meer beroemdheden geweest overigens, zoals Jamie Masada (nooit van gehoord) en Chris Tucker (de grofgebekte stand up comedian). Nadat de jongen na zijn operatie, waardoor hij een nier moest missen, werd ontslagen uit het ziekenhuis ging hij naar Neverland, het landgoed van MJ. Met zijn broertje mocht hij meteen op de kamer van Jackson slapen, maar hij was niet alleen, ook de kinderen van Jackson waren erbij en Frank Tyson (ik weet niet wie dat is, kennelijk een bediende of vertrouweling van MJ die altijd in de buurt was, of zijn personal assistent misschien).
Jackson liet op de computer plaatjes zien van blote dames. Zijn kinderen waren op bed in slaap gevallen. Ze keken een half uur lang plaatjes van naakte vrouwen, meisjes tussen de 17 en 25. Jackson zei steeds: Got Milk. Hij leunde over de slapende Prince, zijn oudste zoontje, en zei: Prince, you're missing the pussy.
John Doe werd door Michael verwend met van alles en nog wat. In ieder geval een Mac computer en een mooi jasje. Ze sliepen elke nacht op zijn kamer. Op een gegeven moment heeft hij Michael heel lang niet gezien. Hij had ook geen telefoonnummer.
MJ heeft dan al zijn nummers al laten veranderen, maar waarom hij geen contact meer wilde is een raadsel.
De volgorde in het verhaal is wat warrig, waardoor niet duidelijk is wanneer wat gebeurd is. In ieder geval wordt hij op een gegeven moment weer gebeld en moet langskomen omdat Martin Bashir opnamen gaat maken. MJ wil dat hij een rol speelt en maakt hem wijs: je wil toch acteur worden? Beschouw dit dan maar als je eerste auditie.
De moeder zal later getuigen dat ze veel moeite moesten doen om weg te komen van het landgoed, omdat bepaalde medewerkers hen niet wilden laten gaan (ik heb dit nog niet goed gelezen). De jongen kon niet bij zijn medicijnen die hij zijn leven lang moest slikken. En op een gegeven moment begint MJ de jongen te leren drinken. Hij vraagt hem of hij weleens Jesusjuice heeft gedronken. Dat blijkt witte wijn te zijn. Iedere avond drinken ze grote hoeveelheden, soms ook wodka. Zoveel dat de jongen soms duizelig en dus dronken in slaap valt. Dit gebeurt eveneens in het vliegtuig waar MJ uit blikjes cola light witte wijn drinkt en de jongen ook. Een medewerkster verklaart later dat MJ inderdaad witte wijn uit deze blikjes drinkt, omdat hij kennelijk niet wil dat zijn kinderen weten dat hij alcohol drinkt in hun bijzijn.
De jongen krijgt na deze vlucht een gouden horloge van Jackson ter waarde van 75.000 euri terwijl hij hem op het hart drukt niets te zeggen over de witte wijn.
De jongen wordt gevraagd waarom hij die wijn bleef drinken terwijl hij wist dat het niet goed voor hem was. Hij zegt daarop dat MJ hem vertelde dat als Jezus het dronk het ook goed voor hem was.
Wat verder opvalt is de boosheid als Jackson iets wil horen en het niet krijgt te horen of zijn zin niet krijgt. Hij vraagt de jongen en zijn broertje of ze weleens masturberen. De jongen zegt van niet, MJ wordt boos en zegt dat hij eerlijk moet zijn. Je moet eerlijk zijn tegen hem, daar staat hij op. Dus hij zegt dat mannen moeten masturberen, dat het goed voor ze is (of zoiets) en als je het niet doet dat je dan gekke dingen gaat doen. Waarop hij het verhaal vertelt van een man die het met een hond ging doen.
Die avond zegt MJ in zijn slaapkamer tegen de jongen (het broertje is er nu niet meer bij) dat hij hem wel wil leren masturberen. Hij legt zijn hand op het kruis van de jongen en begint te wrijven, onderwijl trekt hij zichzelf af. De jongen krijgt een orgasme. De volgende avond gebeurt hetzelfde, alleen heeft de jongen nu geen orgasme. MJ wil dat de jongen het ook bij hem doet, maar de jongen trekt zijn hand weg en wil dat per se niet.
Het gebeurt ongeveer vijf keer, maar de jongen is kennelijk een aantal keren zo dronken dat hij het zich niet goed kan herinneren, het is als in een droom, zo vaag.
Andere details: MJ kwam een van de eerste keren dat de jongens in zijn kamer waren naakt binnenlopen omdat hij toen hij onder de douche ging zogezegd iets vergeten was. Hij zei daarbij dat naakt zijn heel normaal was.
Verder valt op dat MJ in vergelijking met de andere sterren helemaal niet zo gezellig was en leuke dingen deed. De jongens waren op zijn landgoed, maar MJ was altijd weg.
Verder had hij een koffertje met plaatjes van blote meisjes dat af en toe tevoorschijn kwam.
Dat was het, de rest van de getuigenissen moet ik nog lezen.
[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Meditrinea op 20-02-2005 14:41:26 ]
http://thesmokinggun.com/michaeljackson/010605jackson.html
Het gaat om ruim 1900 pagina's, dus wie interesse heeft is gewaarschuwd.
In het kort komt het hier op neer: Het slachtoffer, John Doe voor de gelegenheid, vertelt hoe hij tijdens zijn ziekenhuisopname in contact kwam met Jackson (hierna te noemen MJ) die hem op een gegeven moment belde. Er waren wel meer beroemdheden geweest overigens, zoals Jamie Masada (nooit van gehoord) en Chris Tucker (de grofgebekte stand up comedian). Nadat de jongen na zijn operatie, waardoor hij een nier moest missen, werd ontslagen uit het ziekenhuis ging hij naar Neverland, het landgoed van MJ. Met zijn broertje mocht hij meteen op de kamer van Jackson slapen, maar hij was niet alleen, ook de kinderen van Jackson waren erbij en Frank Tyson (ik weet niet wie dat is, kennelijk een bediende of vertrouweling van MJ die altijd in de buurt was, of zijn personal assistent misschien).
Jackson liet op de computer plaatjes zien van blote dames. Zijn kinderen waren op bed in slaap gevallen. Ze keken een half uur lang plaatjes van naakte vrouwen, meisjes tussen de 17 en 25. Jackson zei steeds: Got Milk. Hij leunde over de slapende Prince, zijn oudste zoontje, en zei: Prince, you're missing the pussy.
John Doe werd door Michael verwend met van alles en nog wat. In ieder geval een Mac computer en een mooi jasje. Ze sliepen elke nacht op zijn kamer. Op een gegeven moment heeft hij Michael heel lang niet gezien. Hij had ook geen telefoonnummer.
MJ heeft dan al zijn nummers al laten veranderen, maar waarom hij geen contact meer wilde is een raadsel.
De volgorde in het verhaal is wat warrig, waardoor niet duidelijk is wanneer wat gebeurd is. In ieder geval wordt hij op een gegeven moment weer gebeld en moet langskomen omdat Martin Bashir opnamen gaat maken. MJ wil dat hij een rol speelt en maakt hem wijs: je wil toch acteur worden? Beschouw dit dan maar als je eerste auditie.
De moeder zal later getuigen dat ze veel moeite moesten doen om weg te komen van het landgoed, omdat bepaalde medewerkers hen niet wilden laten gaan (ik heb dit nog niet goed gelezen). De jongen kon niet bij zijn medicijnen die hij zijn leven lang moest slikken. En op een gegeven moment begint MJ de jongen te leren drinken. Hij vraagt hem of hij weleens Jesusjuice heeft gedronken. Dat blijkt witte wijn te zijn. Iedere avond drinken ze grote hoeveelheden, soms ook wodka. Zoveel dat de jongen soms duizelig en dus dronken in slaap valt. Dit gebeurt eveneens in het vliegtuig waar MJ uit blikjes cola light witte wijn drinkt en de jongen ook. Een medewerkster verklaart later dat MJ inderdaad witte wijn uit deze blikjes drinkt, omdat hij kennelijk niet wil dat zijn kinderen weten dat hij alcohol drinkt in hun bijzijn.
De jongen krijgt na deze vlucht een gouden horloge van Jackson ter waarde van 75.000 euri terwijl hij hem op het hart drukt niets te zeggen over de witte wijn.
De jongen wordt gevraagd waarom hij die wijn bleef drinken terwijl hij wist dat het niet goed voor hem was. Hij zegt daarop dat MJ hem vertelde dat als Jezus het dronk het ook goed voor hem was.
Wat verder opvalt is de boosheid als Jackson iets wil horen en het niet krijgt te horen of zijn zin niet krijgt. Hij vraagt de jongen en zijn broertje of ze weleens masturberen. De jongen zegt van niet, MJ wordt boos en zegt dat hij eerlijk moet zijn. Je moet eerlijk zijn tegen hem, daar staat hij op. Dus hij zegt dat mannen moeten masturberen, dat het goed voor ze is (of zoiets) en als je het niet doet dat je dan gekke dingen gaat doen. Waarop hij het verhaal vertelt van een man die het met een hond ging doen.
Die avond zegt MJ in zijn slaapkamer tegen de jongen (het broertje is er nu niet meer bij) dat hij hem wel wil leren masturberen. Hij legt zijn hand op het kruis van de jongen en begint te wrijven, onderwijl trekt hij zichzelf af. De jongen krijgt een orgasme. De volgende avond gebeurt hetzelfde, alleen heeft de jongen nu geen orgasme. MJ wil dat de jongen het ook bij hem doet, maar de jongen trekt zijn hand weg en wil dat per se niet.
Het gebeurt ongeveer vijf keer, maar de jongen is kennelijk een aantal keren zo dronken dat hij het zich niet goed kan herinneren, het is als in een droom, zo vaag.
Andere details: MJ kwam een van de eerste keren dat de jongens in zijn kamer waren naakt binnenlopen omdat hij toen hij onder de douche ging zogezegd iets vergeten was. Hij zei daarbij dat naakt zijn heel normaal was.
Verder valt op dat MJ in vergelijking met de andere sterren helemaal niet zo gezellig was en leuke dingen deed. De jongens waren op zijn landgoed, maar MJ was altijd weg.
Verder had hij een koffertje met plaatjes van blote meisjes dat af en toe tevoorschijn kwam.
Dat was het, de rest van de getuigenissen moet ik nog lezen.
[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Meditrinea op 20-02-2005 14:41:26 ]
Michael heeft inderdaad een 'enge ziekte'; lupus genaamd.
Zie hieronder de symptonen en als je terugzoekt in Michaels medische geschiedenis en zijn huidige gedrag, dan zie je dat er veel overeenkomt. Ook heeft Jermaine Jackson dit bevestigd, is Michael Jackson publiekelijk op een open dag geweest voor Lupus en verklaren zijn artsen dit.
bij 90 %:
vermoeidheid, artritis en gewrichtspijn
bij 80 %:
koorts
bij 70 %
haarverlies, bloedarmoede, klierzwellingen
bij 60 %:
gewichtsverlies en slechte eetlust, vlindervormige uitslag
bij 50 %:
ontsteking van het longvlies, hartvlies of buikvlies, nieraantasting, persoonlijkheidsveranderingen, purpura
bij 40 %
overgevoeligheid voor (zon) licht, bacteriële infecties
bij 30 %:
ulceraties (verzweringen) van de slijmvliezen bv. aften, spierpijnen of myositis (spierontstekeingen), maag- en darmklachten, vergrote lever, hoge bloeddruk, longontsteking, ontsteking van hartspier of -kleppen
bij 20 %:
Raynaud (het wit worden van vingers), discoīde lupus (huidaantasting bij lupus met ontstaan van ronde schijfvormige letsels), ontstekingen in ogen of Sjögren-syndroom, ernstige nieraantasting, epilepsieaanvallen, psychosen, aantasting van coronaire arteries (bevloeien de hartspier).
bij 10 %:
netelroos, oedeem of blaarvorming op de huid, lupuspneumonie, letsels van hersenen of ruggenmerg, migraine, auto-immune vernietiging van rode bloedcellen, laag aantal bloedplaatjes, ontsteking van zenuwen
Zie hieronder de symptonen en als je terugzoekt in Michaels medische geschiedenis en zijn huidige gedrag, dan zie je dat er veel overeenkomt. Ook heeft Jermaine Jackson dit bevestigd, is Michael Jackson publiekelijk op een open dag geweest voor Lupus en verklaren zijn artsen dit.
bij 90 %:
vermoeidheid, artritis en gewrichtspijn
bij 80 %:
koorts
bij 70 %
haarverlies, bloedarmoede, klierzwellingen
bij 60 %:
gewichtsverlies en slechte eetlust, vlindervormige uitslag
bij 50 %:
ontsteking van het longvlies, hartvlies of buikvlies, nieraantasting, persoonlijkheidsveranderingen, purpura
bij 40 %
overgevoeligheid voor (zon) licht, bacteriële infecties
bij 30 %:
ulceraties (verzweringen) van de slijmvliezen bv. aften, spierpijnen of myositis (spierontstekeingen), maag- en darmklachten, vergrote lever, hoge bloeddruk, longontsteking, ontsteking van hartspier of -kleppen
bij 20 %:
Raynaud (het wit worden van vingers), discoīde lupus (huidaantasting bij lupus met ontstaan van ronde schijfvormige letsels), ontstekingen in ogen of Sjögren-syndroom, ernstige nieraantasting, epilepsieaanvallen, psychosen, aantasting van coronaire arteries (bevloeien de hartspier).
bij 10 %:
netelroos, oedeem of blaarvorming op de huid, lupuspneumonie, letsels van hersenen of ruggenmerg, migraine, auto-immune vernietiging van rode bloedcellen, laag aantal bloedplaatjes, ontsteking van zenuwen
ja allemaal heel vervelend voor MJ , het is me nogal een lijst, maar moet je daarom als vent van in de veertig je vrienden vooral zoeken onder 12 jarigen en dan met name jongetjes met een licht exotisch uiterlijk en die bij je op de kamer laten slapen , ze volgieten met alcohol en daarbij ouders op een afstand houden?
trouwens, die moeder mogen ze ook aanpakken, als MJ schuldig is aan kindermisbruik, dan is zij schuldig aan hem de gelegenheid bieden.
trouwens, die moeder mogen ze ook aanpakken, als MJ schuldig is aan kindermisbruik, dan is zij schuldig aan hem de gelegenheid bieden.
[i]"you left me standing here, a long long time ago"[/i]
Nee, staat los van dit verhaal maar iemand hierboven vroeg of Michael Aids heeft. Daar haakte ik op in.
Over het verhaal waar we het hier over hebben... Ik ben een fan die Michael meerdere malen heeft ontmoet en heb altijd veel gereisd voor concerten.
Michael loopt op tour altijd met kinderen, dit zijn jongens en meisjes van alle afkomsten. Vaak zijn dit de kinderen van werknemers van Michael. Zie je Michael, dan zie je kinderen. Deze kinderen lijken niet bang voor hem en hij raakt ze nooit aan. Ze lijken zich altijd op hun gemak te voelen bij hem.
Over het verhaal waar we het hier over hebben... Ik ben een fan die Michael meerdere malen heeft ontmoet en heb altijd veel gereisd voor concerten.
Michael loopt op tour altijd met kinderen, dit zijn jongens en meisjes van alle afkomsten. Vaak zijn dit de kinderen van werknemers van Michael. Zie je Michael, dan zie je kinderen. Deze kinderen lijken niet bang voor hem en hij raakt ze nooit aan. Ze lijken zich altijd op hun gemak te voelen bij hem.
Die getuigenis is afgelegd voor de Grand Jury. De verdediging mocht daar helemaal niet bij zijn en dus konden de aanklagers gewoon hun gang gaan om hun kant van het verhaal te vertellen.
En dat is dus ook het enige wat het is. Het zijn geen feiten, het is het verhaal van de aanklager.
En dat is dus ook het enige wat het is. Het zijn geen feiten, het is het verhaal van de aanklager.
Galantly he chickened out...
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
Jup, en gister is de jury beedigd. Bestaat uit 8 vrouwen en 4 mannen in de leeftijd van 20 tot 79.
7 Blanken, 4 'Hispanics' en een Aziaat. In de laatste ronde heeft Sneddon er nog de enige twee overgebleven 'zwarten' uitgegooid. Zal vast geen toeval zijn, maar ja, het mocht.
7 Blanken, 4 'Hispanics' en een Aziaat. In de laatste ronde heeft Sneddon er nog de enige twee overgebleven 'zwarten' uitgegooid. Zal vast geen toeval zijn, maar ja, het mocht.
Galantly he chickened out...
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
quote:'Vrouw overleden door opname Michael Jackson'.
Het ziekenhuis waar Michael Jackson 15 februari werd opgenomen met een griep, maakte plaats voor de popster door een vrouw te verplaatsen die net een hartaanval had gehad. Zij overleed later die dag. Haar familie daagt het ziekenhuis en Jackson voor het gerecht.
Anna Ruiz, de schoondochter van de overleden vrouw, zei vrijdag tegen de Amerikaanse zender ABC News dat ze zag hoe Michael het Marian Medical Centre binnenliep. Haar schoonmoeder werd van de beademing afgehaald en met een handpomp beademd terwijl ze naar een kleinere kamer werd gebracht. Michael Jackson kreeg haar grote kamer. Daarna kreeg de 74-jarige vrouw nog twee hartaanvallen en overleed ze.
Of de dood van Manuela Ruiz deels te wijten is aan de verplaatsing, is niet bekend. Maar volgens de familie heeft de komst van de popster in ieder geval het ziekenhuispersoneel afgeleid. Daarbij komt dat in de kleinere kamer maar twee mensen tegelijk op bezoek mochten komen, waardoor familieleden minder tijd bij de patiënte konden doorbrengen.
Yvonne riep ergens: [b]Static is gewoon Static, je leeft met hem of niet.
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.[/b]
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.[/b]
bronquote:
Zo zal Michael Jackson eruit komen te zien als hij door de rechtbank van Santa Maria wordt veroordeeld voor het verrichten van onzedelijke handelingen met de 13-jarige Gavin Arzevo.
Als de jury de King of Pop schuldig acht gaat hij naar de Maximum Security Prison in het Californische Corcoran. Make-up, handschoenen en mondkapjes zijn er uit den boze en haarontkroezers komen het pand niet in.
Michael zal net als de andere gevangenen, onder wie Robert Kennedy’s moordenaar Sirhan-Sirhan, een grove oranje overall moeten dragen. Mocht het zover komen, dan krijgt hij een kleine cel met slechts een matras, een stoel, een tafel en een minitoiletje.
En natuurlijk ook geen paraplutje als ie naar buiten mag om te luchten. Geeft ook niet, krijgt ie eindelijk een gezond kleurtje .
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Heb dat hele artikel toen wel in de Telegraaf gelezen en het belichtte eindelijk ook eens de twijfelachtige kant van Arvizo-familie. Had ik niet van de Telegraaf verwacht, zeker niet met die foto erbij.quote:
Galantly he chickened out...
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
The tale of Sir Robin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
