[Centraal] Serie A-topic # 8: Juve Vaffanculo

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Op maandag 25 oktober 2004 16:54 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Dat was idd wel verwacht, nadat ie zelf zo ongeveer al in de deuropening bukte.

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Op maandag 25 oktober 2004 15:50 schreef Dylan Dog het volgende:

Dylan Dog 5
DIGGER 3
Methodmich 2
Smeich 1
ZIOPPA 0

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Juve follow Arsenal path

Juventus will follow Arsenal’s example by selling the name of their new stadium to a sponsor. The club are about to start redeveloping the Stadio Delle Alpi and hope to have it completed in the next two years. The Premiership club’s new arena will be called ‘The Emirates Stadium’ after a £100m deal was agreed with Emirates Airlines.

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Op woensdag 27 oktober 2004 09:25 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Op wat voor een uitslag hoop je nou als Lazio fan, dat Roma verliest omdat het Roma is, of dat Juve verliest zodat Lazio niet te ver achterop geraakt?

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Panucci set for Leg swap

Reports of a January swap deal involving Christian Panucci of Roma and Juve’s Nicola Legrottaglie are gathering pace.

Football Italia reported on Monday that a switch could occur and the Italian media are convinced that a deal is in the pipeline.

Panucci’s future in the Italian capital is uncertain after he clashed with new boss Gigi Del Neri over the weekend.

He’s been left out of the Roma side since and would have no problems with teaming up with boss Fabio Capello in Turin.

The two men have worked together with success in the past at Milan, Real Madrid and Roma.

Panucci would seemingly be welcomed by Capello given that the international can play as a right-back but also in the centre of defence.

Legrottaglie may also be enthusiastic about the move as he broke into the Italian national side thanks to his form at Chievo under Del Neri.

That saw Juventus and Roma battle for his signature in the summer of 2003 – with the Bianconeri coming out on top.

But Roma could now finally sign the player, who struggled at the Delle Alpi last term, as he doesn’t seem to feature in Capello’s first team plans.

Fabio Cannavaro and Lilian Thuram are the first choice centre-backs, with Igor Tudor apparently next in line.

Speculation suggests that the two players will join rival clubs on loan before signing permanent deals at the end of the season.

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Op woensdag 27 oktober 2004 13:17 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Ook hier maar even, zou leuk zijn om dit morgenavond weer te zien:

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Roma to unleash trident

Roma boss Gigi Del Neri has confirmed that Antonio Cassano will start in a three-man attack against Juventus.

Many expected the tactician to field a more stable 4-4-2 at the League leaders but the Giallorossi are seemingly going for the three points in Turin on Thursday.

"I always look to pick players who are in good form," said the tactician. "I like the look of Cassano, Francesco Totti and Vincenzo Montella right now, so they will all play.

"I can’t permit myself to leave out players who have the ability to make a difference to my side.

"Montella is the League’s top scorer, Totti is very important for us, while Cassano has improved and will be needed in Turin."

There were some doubts over Cassano’s presence given that he has been training on his own recently, officially in a bid to find his best form according to the club.

"I decided to recall Cassano to the team on Sunday night," revealed Del Neri. "I need an element who can offer us the threat of speed and surprise."

Juventus have made a solid start to the season after dropping just two points so far and conceding only two goals.

"They are a powerful team, balanced and very strong," noted the tactician. "Fabio Capello is a Coach whose sides are always well structured from defence to attack.

"Juventus are good in every department and that is why I fear no player in particular but their side as a whole."

Del Neri admitted that he had a few doubts to resolve given that Daniele De Rossi and Traianos Dellas are concerns due to fitness.

"We must be competitive in midfield," he added. "That is where the game will be won. They have Emerson who we know well but we have a chance if we can remain compact.

"But we will also worry them seeing as we have Totti, Cassano and Montella in our side."

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Serie A Week 8 - 28/10/04 (20.30) Stadio Delle Alpi
Juventus - Roma

There are grudge matches in Italian football, and then there is Juventus-Roma. After a fiery summer in which Fabio Capello, Emerson and Jonathan Zebina moved to the auld enemy, how will troubled Roma react?

The rivalry between these two sides has always been intense, but stepped up a few notches in recent years with controversial decisions and long-running transfer battles adding fuel to the fire. The shock of the summer saw Capello sign for the Turin giants, seemingly without the knowledge of Roma, after the club had released him from his contract.

Emerson then engaged in a tug-of-war to join the Coach and Zebina at the Delle Alpi, rejecting more lucrative moves to Real Madrid, Chelsea and Inter along the way. He isn’t the only one, as Zlatan Ibrahimovic was also heavily linked to the Giallorossi last year before eventually plumping for Juventus.

This should also be an entertaining encounter between two of the three teams who have scored in every single game so far this season, the other being Lecce. It will take a great Roma performance to break through this defence, as Juve have conceded just two goals so far, but if anyone can do it then it’s Francesco Totti, Vincenzo Montella and Antonio Cassano.

The young talent has now been allowed back into full training and looks set to make his comeback against the club that this week confirmed its interest in discussing terms for a summer switch. Christian Panucci could still be left out after turning up late for training, while Cristian Chivu, Vincent Candela and Ivan Pelizzoli are injured. Manuele Blasi should recover from a thigh problem to start in the Juve midfield.
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Juventus (probable): Buffon; Zebina, Thuram, Cannavaro, Zambrotta; Camoranesi, Emerson, Blasi, Nedved; Del Piero, Ibrahimovic

Roma (probable): Zotti; Sartor, Ferrari, Mexes, Cufre; Mancini, Perrotta, Dacourt; Totti, Cassano; Montella

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Roma (probable): Zotti; Sartor, Ferrari, Mexes, Cufre; Mancini, Perrotta, Dacourt; Totti, Cassano; Montella

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Dacourt sparks injury crisis

The Giallorossi might have to improvise their midfield tomorrow evening, as Oliver Dacourt and Daniele De Rossi have injuries.

The Frenchman limped off during today’s training session in Turin with an upper right thigh twinge and will undergo tests before the big game with Juventus.

Dacourt is considered to be a major doubt to start the match, but Daniele De Rossi has not even made the trip up north due after a recurring muscular problem flared up.

With only Simone Perrotta and Amantino Mancini left in midfield, Coach Gigi Del Neri could be forced to improvise with Marco Delvecchio and Traianos Dellas.

Meanwhile, Roma have officially lodged an appeal against UEFA’s decision to inflict a three-match ban on De Rossi.

The Italian international was sent off for kicking out at an opponent during their 3-1 Champions’ League defeat at Bayer Leverkusen. The appeal will be heard on November 19.

However, it’s unlikely the Giallorossi will attempt to have Christian Panucci’s two-man suspension for jumping with his elbow out reduced.

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Op woensdag 27 oktober 2004 12:37 schreef Smeich het volgende:

ps: mms://video.jumpy.it/iene/C_11_video_694_videoadsl.wmv Voor diegenen die het gemist hebben in t vorige deeltje

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Op vrijdag 29 oktober 2004 08:50 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Jammer dat je niet bent teruggekomen om waar je op wou wedden Smeich, want het was dus Emerson die rood kreeg (2 keer geel, beide voor shirtje trekken).

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Op vrijdag 29 oktober 2004 09:04 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Overigens: Gisteravond slechts 30.000 (!) toeschouwers aanwezig, zou Juve zich voor moeten schamen!

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Op maandag 25 oktober 2004 15:50 schreef Dylan Dog het volgende:
Een nieuw deel in de Serie A-reeks. De toto van Giornata 7 is tamelijk belabberd gemaakt en heeft drie weekwinanars met alledrie drie (!!) goed: Smeich, DIGGER en Dylan Dog. De tussenstand van de Serie A-toto wordt dus:

Dylan Dog 5
DIGGER 3
Methodmich 2
Smeich 1
ZIOPPA 0

De laatste ronde had dan ook wat verrassende uitslagen als Parma-Lazio 3-1 en Roma-Palermo 1-1.

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Op vrijdag 29 oktober 2004 12:24 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Smeich, waar doelt dit spandoek op (bij Lazio - Messina) - gaat dat over iet sin het verleden of?

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In memory of Vincenzo Paparelli



My name is Vincenzo Paparelli, and I died on October 28th 1979. Perhaps someone still remembers me. I was a man of thirty-three years who was killed one day at the Olympic stadium by a distress rocket fired by a Roma ultra supporter. I was eating a sandwich when I was hit. My wife Wanda tried to pull out that iron tube from my left eye, but as the flare was still burning, she just ended up burning her hand. The doctor who brought me first aid declared that he had never before witnessed such a severe wound, not even in war. The next day, all newspapers published a photograph taken a month earlier, of my wife and myself in a restaurant. Only the daily paper Il Tempo published a picture showing me laying on the ground, my face covered in blood, my left eye socket empty. I was the second victim of football violence in Italy, before myself a Salernitana supporter had died in 1963 as a result of clashes in the stands with supporters from Potenza.

Of all the sports personalities, the first to rush to the Santo Spirito hospital where I had been taken, dead by now, was CONI President Franco Carraro. When my brother-in-law heard my name on the radio he first thought they were talking about someone who had the same name as I. My brother had a strong sense of guilt when he learnt of my misfortune because he had leant me his season ticket, and that day it should have been him in the stadium instead of me. My wife who was beside me in the ambulance, held my hand tight and prayed for me not to die the entire time. After having finished all the formalities in the police headquarters and collected my personal documents and objects, she had a crisis and began to yell. On the photos that appeared in newspapers the following days, she is shown next to her mother who tries to console her, arms around her shoulder. She has a tired and hollow face, and there is a terrible look in her eyes.

Following my homicide, my name and that one my relatives appeared on the daily paper for the following week and the next, with diminishing prominence. I was unanimously defined as a normal and calm man with a single passion, that for Lazio. Some daily papers emphasized more than once that I owned a mechanical workshop together with my brother and lived in a modern roman neighbourhood, Mazzalupo. Someone wrote that I had bought a color television set on credit, and my only luxury was a second hand BMW that I kept in a garage and polished like a mirror.

After my death, Lazio captain Pino Wilson phoned my wife to extend his condolences. Rome mayor Petroselli also called and offered to pay my funeral expenses and put a social worker at my family’s disposition. The player Lionello Manfredonia paid my relatives a visit and gave my youngest son his jersey with the number five. The entire Lazio squad was present at my funeral, next to coach Bob Lovati and president Lenzini. The Roma players did not participate as they were away on Coppa Italia duty against Potenza, so in their place the club sent the boys from the Primavera. A thousand people took part in the funeral ceremony and that day was declared a day of mourning in the whole city. The Luciano Re Cecconi Foundation donated a million to my family. The Lazio regional council allocated the sum of five million as a sign of solidarity. The Società Sportiva Roma erected a tablet in the Curva Nord as a memory of my person.

My brother Angelo proposed that the two Roman clubs play a match with Lazio and Roma players mixed in the two line-ups, but in the end nothing came of it. For some days I was the subject of a heated debate about violence in the football stadiums. The mayor of Rome stressed that everyone needed to reflect over this tragedy and that it needed to be discussed within all sports clubs as well as in the schools. Someone proposed that they should install a system of closed circuit TV in all stadiums in order to identify the violent supporters. The head of the referees, Giulio Campanati, asked for the end of slow motion footage from football games on TV. During the following months drastic law enforcement measures were taken: flag poles, drums and even banners with warlike names were prohibited in the stadium, as well as pins and patches that could be perceived as offensive. The crowd had to support their team with just their voice and their hands.

Depending on the person, my name has been both honoured and ridiculed by Lazio and Roma supporters. Still today you will find inscriptions on the walls of the city that read "Paparelli, you will be avenged", or "Paparelli we will not forget to you", or also "10, 100, 1000 Paparelli" or still, "Paparelli you missed out on the beautiful times". In recent years the newspapers only mention me the day after a new crime has been committed in the stadium. On the 5th anniversary of my death, the supporters paid tribute to me before a match against Cremonese. On the tartan, along the Tribuna Tevere, they had spread out a banner with the words "Vincenzo lives", while the curva chanted "October 28th, national day of mourning". On the 10th anniversary, the "«Lazio Club Nuovo Monte Spaccato, Vincenzo Paparelli " was inaugurated. The Lazio fans of the Curva Nord commemorated the anniversary of my death for some fifteen years, but these last years it has fallen into silence. The Vincenzo Paparelli football tournament only reached the third edition, and was then abandoned due to a lack of funds.

The renovation of the Olympic stadium for "Italia 90" have wiped out the curvas of the past forever, and with them the marble plate that honored my memory. When searching for my first and last name within brackets on the Yahoo search engine, the result always shows "Ignored". When searching the archives of the daily paper Il Messaggero, it turns out that the last time my name was mentioned was 5 February 1995, when a short article about my assassin appeared.

My assassin’s name was Giovanni Fiorillo; he was eighteen years and was an unemployed building painter. Immediately after the homicide he disappeared and led a life of fugitive. Someone claimed to have spotted him in Pescara, someone else in Brescia, yet another in Frosinone, where he asked for information to buy cigarettes. After fourteen months on the run, he turned himself in. In 1987 he was sentenced to manslaughter by the court: six years and ten months for having launched the rocket and four years and six months to the others two accomplices that had helped him introduce the device into the stadium and use it. During his run in Italy and Switzerland he had telephoned my brother Angelo nearly every day, asking for forgiveness and swearing that he did not intend to kill anyone that day in the stadium. He was a boy like many others; he lived by Piazza Vittorio, and was mad about Roma. His mother worked in the market, his father as a mechanical fitter. They were regular people, just like me. The article in the newspaper mentioned that Giovanni Fiorillo had died on 24 March 1993, perhaps from an overdose, perhaps from a grave illness. My brother Angelo had forgiven him, as had my wife and also my sons. One thing is sure, that boy had been unfortunate, just as I had been.

My name is Vincenzo Paparelli, and I died on October 28th 1979. Perhaps someone still remembers me.



"A story by Massimiliano Governi, written for the Gazzetta dello Sport, in October of 1999"

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Op vrijdag 29 oktober 2004 11:18 schreef DIGGER het volgende:

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ZIOPPA is eindelijk van de hatelijke 0 af.

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Op vrijdag 29 oktober 2004 13:27 schreef ZIOPPA het volgende:

En nu ben ik los!

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Op vrijdag 29 oktober 2004 11:18 schreef DIGGER het volgende:

Totaalscore:

Dylan Dog 6
DIGGER 3
methodmich 3
Smeich 1
ZIOPPA 1

ZIOPPA is eindelijk van de hatelijke 0 af.

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Op vrijdag 29 oktober 2004 13:27 schreef ZIOPPA het volgende:

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En nu ben ik los!

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ZIOPPA scoort 2 op een rij

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Op dinsdag 2 november 2004 10:43 schreef ZIOPPA het volgende:

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Zo!

Geen voetbal kunnen zien dit weekend, iemand een link voor paar highlights, of in ieder geval de goal van Obodo??

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Op dinsdag 2 november 2004 10:49 schreef DIGGER het volgende:

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http://www.raisport.rai.i(...)rentinaLecce40_1.ram

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Op zondag 7 november 2004 10:33 schreef Suijk het volgende:
Ondanks een goal van Zlatan, lijdt Juve het eerste verlies. Reggina wint met 2-1

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Op woensdag 3 november 2004 17:02 schreef Dylan Dog het volgende:
BRESCIA - CHIEVO X
REGGINA - JUVENTUS 2
ATALANTA - SAMPDORIA 1
BOLOGNA - MESSINA 1
CAGLIARI - LIVORNO 1
FIORENTINA - INTER 1
LAZIO - SIENA 1
LECCE - UDINESE 1
PALERMO - PARMA 1
MILAN - ROMA 1

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Op maandag 8 november 2004 09:07 schreef Marty het volgende:
En wie heeft de topictitel veranderd??

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Oh, ja.. heeft iemand toevallig een foto van dat geweldige shot tijdens de wedstrijd van Milan-Roma gisteren van Berlusconi op de tribune?

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Op maandag 8 november 2004 09:07 schreef Marty het volgende:
Oh, ja.. heeft iemand toevallig een foto van dat geweldige shot tijdens de wedstrijd van Milan-Roma gisteren van Berlusconi op de tribune?

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Op maandag 8 november 2004 09:21 schreef Marty het volgende:
want het is gewoon niet eerlijk gegaan.

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Op maandag 8 november 2004 09:52 schreef Smeich het volgende:

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Wat was er dan? En kwam Uncle Fester ook nog in beeld?

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Jij bent voor Juve toch? Weet jij wellicht wat t hedendaagse tarief is voor 6 minuten blessuretijd?

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Op maandag 1 november 2004 11:02 schreef DIGGER het volgende:


Stand voor dit weekend:

Dylan Dog 7
DIGGER 3
methodmich 3
ZIOPPA 2
Smeich 1

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Op maandag 8 november 2004 14:59 schreef Marty het volgende:
Laat ik ook eens een gokje wagen..

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Op maandag 8 november 2004 15:01 schreef DIGGER het volgende:

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terecht, je hebt Smeich waarschijnlijk zo ingehaald

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Op maandag 8 november 2004 13:25 schreef DIGGER het volgende:

Dylan Dog 0 (panel, geven we strafpunten voor dit soort blamages?)

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Op maandag 8 november 2004 10:24 schreef Marty het volgende:


Ik snap je vraag niet helemaal..

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Op maandag 8 november 2004 15:42 schreef Smeich het volgende:

Je vond het niet eerlijk gaan......en dat uit de mond van een Juventini Volgens mij was Juve Paparesta en de grensrechter vergeten uit te betalen.... of was de afschrijving kwijtgeraakt tussen de post?

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Op maandag 8 november 2004 16:08 schreef JeroenV het volgende:

Ik zelf heb niet echt een club in Italie waar ik voor ben. Als ik moet kiezen doe dan maar Inter of Roma.

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Op maandag 8 november 2004 13:25 schreef DIGGER het volgende:

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Resultaten:

DIGGER 4
Methodmich 2
Smeich 2
ZIOPPA 4 (de enige die Udinese goed had)
Dylan Dog 0 (panel, geven we strafpunten voor dit soort blamages?)

Nieuwe stand:

Dylan Dog 7
DIGGER 4
methodmich 3
ZIOPPA 3
Smeich 1

Hattrick dus voor ZIOPPA en het wordt weer eens tijd dat Smeich en Methodmich gaan scoren.

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Op maandag 8 november 2004 21:35 schreef Smeich het volgende:
We zouden eigenlijk t klassement moeten vertalen vanuit de totaalpunten.

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Miccoli plots Juve revenge

Fiorentina’s Fabrizio Miccoli is planning to haunt former club Juventus on Wednesday evening.

The Italian returns to Turin for the Week 11 clash after the Bianconeri sold half on his contract to the Tuscan giants over the summer.

"I dream about scoring past Gigi Buffon with a chip," Miccoli told TG5. "A prediction? We’ll win 2-1."

The decision to sell Miccoli surprised many in the Italian game given his undoubted quality in Serie A.

And he will arrive at the Stadio Delle Alpi in a rich moment of form after initially struggling to settle in Florence.

"Juventus made some important signings and they have a great Coach but we are doing well," he added.

"We were a little unfortunate on Sunday as my shot hit the woodwork against Inter in the 1-1 draw. I hope to have a little more fortune in Turin.

"This will undoubtedly be a special game for me but I am calm about the situation because I’m really happy where I am now."

Meanwhile, Juventus will be without Nicola Legrottaglie and Stephen Appiah yet again because of injury.

But Alex Del Piero, who Juve favoured over Miccoli, will start after he was only used as a substitute at Reggina on Saturday.

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Op maandag 8 november 2004 15:42 schreef Smeich het volgende:

Ik neem nu gewoon de voorspellingen van Zioppa over

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Op donderdag 11 november 2004 08:10 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Juve had na afgelopen zaterdag zeker dubbel betaald, daar werd Fiorentina dus door de scheids dubbel en dwars genaaid, de bal ha din blessuretijd gewoon op de stip gemoeten na de actie van Thuram

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Op donderdag 11 november 2004 08:56 schreef DIGGER het volgende:

Ongelooflijk knap trouwens hoe die jongens van Inter elke keer weer een voorsprong (of het nu van 1 of 2 goals is) uit handen weten te geven, hulde daarvoor

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Op vrijdag 12 november 2004 08:30 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Oude stand:


Score ronde 11

DIGGER 3
Marty 5 (niet slecht, voor de 1e keer )
ZIOPPA 1 (Komt door de vloek die Smeich over je heeft uitgesproken door de TOTO hetzelfde in te vullen?)
Smeich 1
Michele (vriend Marty) 2
Methodmich 6
Dylan Dog 3

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Op vrijdag 12 november 2004 09:05 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Dat zal de komende weken blijken (als je mee blijft doen).
Je kan iig alweer je voorspellingen voor dit weekend kwijt.

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Op vrijdag 12 november 2004 11:48 schreef Dylan Dog het volgende:
Als het maar geen Roma-supporter is...

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Score ronde 11

Methodmich 6

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Op vrijdag 12 november 2004 11:42 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Tuurlijk mag je meedoen, geen enkel probleem

Introduceer jezelf anders ook gelijk ff voor de 'vaste harde kern' hier, wie je volgt, waarom etc.

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Op vrijdag 12 november 2004 19:26 schreef Peter83 het volgende:
Helaas is mijn Italiaans nog niet helemaal top

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Giornata 12

Atalanta - Brescia 1
Cagliari - Inter 2
Fiorentina - Livorno 1
Lazio - Bologna 1
Lecce - Juventus 2
Milan - Siena 1
Palermo - Sampdoria 1
Parma - Chievo 2
Reggina - Roma 2
Udinese - Messina X

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Op vrijdag 12 november 2004 20:42 schreef Smeich het volgende:

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Wel leuk natuurlijk om te zien dat je Samp en Viola een warm hart toedraagt, mooie clubs toen ik ook calcio zo'n beetje begon te volgen al had jij dat zo te zien veel eerder in de gaten. Staat die 83 dan ook voor de landstitel van toen?

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Op zondag 14 november 2004 12:04 schreef Peter83 het volgende:

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Nee ben hier al een paar jaar lid en heb toen 83 achter mijn eigen naam laten zetten in verband met mijn geboortejaar. Ziet er wat amateuristisch uit, maar het is niet anders.

Vanmiddag weer een ouderwets voetbalmiddagje met de klassieker en een volledig programma in de Serie A. Helaas moet ik het altijd doen met tempo reale van de Gazzetta.

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Op zondag 14 november 2004 19:09 schreef Smeich het volgende:

Ik zie weer een gelijkspelletje aankomen bij Inter of zullen ze deze ban nu eindelijk doorbreken en eens verliezen?

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Op vrijdag 12 november 2004 12:52 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
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Op maandag 15 november 2004 10:20 schreef DIGGER het volgende:


Montella ook opgeroepen voor het eerst in 2 jaar voor het Nationale elftal

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Op woensdag 17 november 2004 23:40 schreef Smeich het volgende:
Niet vergeten de toto in te vullen he?

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Taddei sues Siena

The long-running battle between Siena and Rodrigo Taddei has come to a head with the club being taken to court and accused of bullying.

The Brazilian midfielder has been forced to train with the youth squad since August 6, when he refused to negotiate with any club other than Roma and opted not to extend his contract. As his deal expires in July 2005, he will be a free agent at the end of this season.

Now Siena are being sued for breach of contract and bullying, with the added request for £1.3m in damages after President Paolo De Luca publicly claimed Taddei was, “An ingrate who does not act as a man should.”

“Siena have broken clause 16 of the Players’ Association code and therefore breached their contract,” explained Taddei’s lawyer Lucia Bianco. “The reason behind all of this is the continual insulting and belittling attitude taken by President De Luca, who has been victimising Taddei for months.”

Surprisingly, this is not the first time a club has been sued for bullying, as Genoa players Breda and Annoni lodged an identical appeal against then-Coach Franco Scoglio.

There had been reports that the two parties were moving towards an amicable solution to the deadlock, but if Taddei wins he will be a free agent and therefore able to sign with Roma.

“This is a ridiculous accusation,” insisted De Luca. “I own the club and can decide who plays and who doesn’t. We aren’t afraid of this legal action, but it certainly doesn’t help everyone find a positive end to this saga.”

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The cost of calcio

Italian football may be aware of the financial crisis in the sport but debt in the game continues to rise.

An investigation by the ‘La Repubblica’ newspaper claims that debt affecting Serie A clubs has risen by 14 per cent in the last year – now totalling a massive £360m.

Only the top-flight duo of Reggina and Bologna have actually made a profit in the last 12 months.

The newspaper has calculated that clubs on average are spending almost double the amount of their income.

Although the cost of player wages has decreased slightly, TV revenue has stayed the same, while running costs have increased by eight per cent.

Player salaries are thought to cost clubs a total of £600m a year, with the Italian giants logically shelling out the majority of that figure.

Especially when you take into account that Inter’s Christian Vieri nets a reported £4m, while Messina’s total wage bill is just £5m.

It was also calculated that Livorno would have to spend 21 years in the top-flight to earn as much as Juventus do in one season.

However, the amount of debt varies dramatically amongst Serie A’s big boys. Juve are alleged to be around £12m in the red, while Inter are an enormous £70m.

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Op woensdag 17 november 2004 23:40 schreef Smeich het volgende:
Niet vergeten de toto in te vullen he?

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Mido: I’ll prove my worth

Unsettled Roma striker Mido has told his many critics that’s he’s about to silence them in spectacular fashion.

The Egyptian has struggled to establish himself since his summer arrival but he’s promised to prove his worth.

"I feel alone but I have no intention of giving up," he told the ‘Romanista’ newspaper on Friday.
"Nobody should believe that they can just throw me away because I want to become the best striker this club has ever had."

Mido was signed on transfer deadline day and was expected to lead the Giallorossi attack this term.
However, he’s spent most of the campaign on the bench so far after the explosion of Vincenzo Montella.

But Mido insists he will soon show Roma and the whole of Italy what he is really capable of.
"I’ll demonstrate that I am even better than (former Ajax teammate and now Juventus ace) Zlatan Ibrahimovic," he added.

"This is a difficult moment in my career but I just ask the fantastic Roma fans to show me a little patience."

Despite Mido’s statements, many expect him to be sold once the January transfer window opens.

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Op donderdag 18 november 2004 13:31 schreef DIGGER het volgende:


Een middenveld met Taddei, de Rossi, Dacourt en Mancini lijkt me een heel goed blok, maar het moet bij Roma eens collectief gaan lopen en eens ophouden met die regen aan blessures.

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Op zaterdag 20 november 2004 14:57 schreef the_legend_killer het volgende:
Inter is nu wel kut bezig met heel Lazio te kopen

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Op zaterdag 20 november 2004 22:44 schreef Smeich het volgende:
Das voor Coppa Italia 2004-2005 okee6

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Op zaterdag 20 november 2004 16:56 schreef BramK het volgende:

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Inter is al 15 jaar kut bezig

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Op zondag 21 november 2004 01:39 schreef the_legend_killer het volgende:

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3 UEFA bekers
Maar Inter is dit seizoen echt kut bezig ik vind ze nu wel erg overdreven doen op transfermarkt

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Op zondag 21 november 2004 01:39 schreef the_legend_killer het volgende:

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Maar Inter is dit seizoen echt kut bezig ik vind ze nu wel erg overdreven doen op transfermarkt

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Op zondag 21 november 2004 12:36 schreef Peter83 het volgende:

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Overdreven? Ik zie geen verandering in het aankoopbeleid van de afgelopen jaren. Het is altijd al een bijeengekocht zooitje geweest en hopelijk zal dat ook nooit veranderen.

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Op zondag 21 november 2004 13:07 schreef the_legend_killer het volgende:

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Maar dit is echt de eerste keer dat ik iets heb van nu is het wel genoeg

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Op zondag 21 november 2004 20:36 schreef BramK het volgende:

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jij vond dit vorige jaren niet dan ?

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Palermo call time on Guidolin

The clock is ticking for Francesco Guidolin after Palermo President Maurizio Zamparini announced he’ll fire the tactician this summer.


“At the end of the season I’m sending him home,” slammed the fiery patron. “We are just not in sync at all and he is not the Coach to lead this club into the future.”


Zamparini’s ire was stoked by last night’s 2-1 Coppa Italia defeat to Milan’s second string side, but it was the manner of the setback that most irritated him.


“How can you field five midfielders plus a full-back disguised as a winger? It’s just crazy and I cannot stand it anymore. All we had to do was play the line-up we had in the final ten minutes, but instead we were playing for the draw. In June I’m making big changes - I guarantee it.”


With these statements made so very publicly, it’s unlikely Guidolin will want to stay in Sicily for another six months if there is no faith in his abilities.


It’s certainly not a new strategy for Zamparini, who sacked Silvio Baldini in January when Palermo were in the promotion places.

Guidolin was brought in to give them more experience, but the President has repeatedly criticised his defensive approach and the likely replacement will be Alberto Zaccheroni.

"Guidolin was the one who wanted us to sell the Filippini twins this summer because he said they were trouble," continued Zamparini. "I can also reveal Gigi Del Neri would do anything to have Mario Alberto Santana at Roma and we'll hand him over in January. Ernesto Farias and Mariano Gonzalez will probably also be sold,"

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Op maandag 22 november 2004 13:09 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Portillo scoorde best een mooie kopgoal zaterdag (stond wel vogelvrij). Op zich doet Fiorentina het aanvallend niet slecht, maar het spel in het geheel, als ploeg, vind ik toch met veel te grote regelmaat dramatisch slecht, ik vind dat ze een bepalende speler missen centraal op het middenveld of achterin die de ploeg op sleeptouw kan nemen, denk dat dat hun grootste prioriteit zou moeten zijn qua aankopen.

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Atalanta - Reggina 1
Bologna - Lecce X
Brescia - Palermo 1
Chievo - Milan 2
Inter - Juventus 1
Lazio - Cagliari 1
Livorno - Udinese 2
Messina - Fiorentina 2
Sampdoria - Parma X
Siena - Roma 2

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Atalanta - Reggina 2
Bologna - Lecce X
Brescia - Palermo X
Chievo - Milan 2
Inter - Juventus X
Lazio - Cagliari X
Livorno - Udinese X
Messina - Fiorentina 1
Sampdoria - Parma X
Siena - Roma 2

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Op vrijdag 26 november 2004 12:01 schreef Peter83 het volgende:

Inter - Juventus X

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Op vrijdag 26 november 2004 12:27 schreef DIGGER het volgende:

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Kijk, jij snapt het!



(vergeet de rest niet de TOTO in te vullen, indien dit nog niet gedaan?)

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Op maandag 29 november 2004 10:51 schreef Dylan Dog het volgende:
Risultati giornata 13 del 28/11/2004
Atalanta - Reggina 0-1 (2)
Bologna - Lecce 0-0 (X)
Brescia - Palermo 0-2 (2)
Chievo - Milan 0-1 (2)
Inter - Juventus 2-2 (X)
Lazio - Cagliari 2-3 (2)
Livorno - Udinese 1-2 (2)
Messina - Fiorentina 1-1 (X)
Sampdoria - Parma 1-0 (1)
Siena - Roma 0-4 (2)

Score ronde 12
DIGGER 5
Peter83 5
Smeich 4
Zioppa 4
methodmich 4
Dylan Dog 3
Michele geen toto
Marty geen toto

Oude stand
Dylan Dog 7
DIGGER 4
methodmich 4
ZIOPPA 3
Marty 1
Michele 1
Smeich 1

Nieuwe stand
Dylan Dog 7
DIGGER 5
methodmich 4
ZIOPPA 3
Marty 1
Michele 1
Smeich 1
Peter83 1

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Op maandag 29 november 2004 11:58 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Volgende week is het trouwens Marty vs. Smeich. Put on your glooves

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Op maandag 29 november 2004 11:42 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Verbouwingen in Italie duren toch altijd 4 jaar per kamer? Of is dat alleen in Zuid Italie zo?

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Mandorlini doesn’t fear axe

Atalanta boss Andrea Mandorlini insists that he is not worried about being sacked by the club.

The Bergamo boys are bottom of the table and lost again on Sunday when Reggina collected a 1-0 win.

"The season is a long one," said Mandorlini, whose side have yet to win in the League so far this term.

"I admit that we are very disappointed because we wanted to win but conceded an incredible own goal instead.

"My job? I’m not worried about losing it. Everyone at this club must just remain calm so that we can pick ourselves up."

Nerazzurri director general Roberto Zanzi also insisted that Mandorlini isn’t facing the chop.

However, whispers circulating in the peninsula suggest that President Ivan Ruggeri is seriously considering his options.

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Caso facing the sack?

Domenico Caso’s stint as Lazio boss could soon be coming to an end, according to reports in Italy.

The capital outfit lost 3-2 at home to Cagliari on Sunday which led to some heavy criticism of the tactician.

Caso was jeered by some sections of the crowd and he is believed to have held talks with President Claudio Lotito after the game.

It’s alleged that the two men spoke for around 45 minutes in an effort to reach some sort of conclusion regarding the outfit’s poor form.

Lazio have now picked up just eight points from a possible 21 and are facing UEFA Cup elimination too.

Although Caso seems safe for the time being, Lotito could opt for a change if results don’t improve.

Possible candidates to replace Caso are former Siena boss Giuseppe Papadopulo, ex-Toro tactician Giancarlo Camolese and Italian legend Dino Zoff.

However, there is also the option of promoting Cristiano Bergodi to the job – as he is currently Caso’s No 2 at the Stadio Olimpico.

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Op maandag 29 november 2004 12:07 schreef the_legend_killer het volgende:

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rellen

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Un fitto lancio di fumogeni e petardi ha accolto l'arrivo dei tifosi bianconeri allo stadio Meazza dove questa sera si gioca Inter-Juventus. Poco prima delle 19, gran parte dei tifosi juventini erano gia' arrivati allo stadio scortati, come di consueto, da un imponente cordone di carabinieri e polizia. Ma anche questa volta non sono mancati momenti di tensione. Alcune centinaia di ultra' interisti hanno infatti bersagliato con un fitto lancio di fumogeni, petardi e anche qualche bullone l'arrivo della tifoseria rivale, che comunque e' riuscita a entrare nello stadio. Le forze dell'ordine - secondo quanto spiegato dalla Questura - si sono frapposte fra gli ultra' delle squadre. I tifosi nerazzurri, nella zona vicino alla biglietteria nord, stanno ancora fronteggiando polizia e carabinieri con lancio di bottiglie e petardi, anche se la situazione e' ora piu' tranquilla. L' ingresso dei tifosi allo stadio sta avvenendo senza ulteriori problemi e incidenti.

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Giornata 14
Parma-Milan 2
Inter-Messina 1
Cagliari-Chievo X
Fiorentina-Bologna 1
Juventus-Lazio 1
Lecce-Livorno 1
Palermo-Atalanta 1
Reggina-Brescia X
Udinese-Siena 1
Roma-Sampdoria 1

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Op dinsdag 30 november 2004 14:31 schreef Afunados het volgende:

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Deze zullen waarschijnlijk op m'n totocalcio formulier komen te staan komend weekend..

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Op dinsdag 30 november 2004 15:52 schreef DIGGER het volgende:

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Even voor je opgezocht:

De laatste keer dat de ploegen in competitieverband tegenover elkaar stonden, was 17 Maart 2002, toen de wedstrijd in 1-1 Eindigde, Gonzales zette Fiorentina toen op voorsprong en de welbekende Cruz maakte na de rust gelijk.
In Bologna was eerder dat seizoen, 4 November 2001, met 3-2 verloren.

Bij Fiorentina toen o.a. in de selectie: Nono Gomez, Chiesa, Ganz, Vanoli, Mijatovic, Amoroso, Benin, Moretti, Adriano, Morfeo e.a.

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Op maandag 29 november 2004 11:58 schreef DIGGER het volgende:
Volgende week is het trouwens Marty vs. Smeich. Put on your glooves

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Op dinsdag 30 november 2004 18:41 schreef Smeich het volgende:

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Let's get it on!! Alleen jammer dat Juvekiller Fiore er niet meer bij is.... ach ja, we hebben Rocchi

_{eerlijk gezegd zie ik t zeer zwaar in}

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Op woensdag 1 december 2004 11:13 schreef Dylan Dog het volgende:

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De Graafschap doet iedere week extra zijn best, heeft ook geen zin. Kortom: niente problema voor Juve.

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Op vrijdag 3 december 2004 12:19 schreef the_legend_killer het volgende:
Dit weekend Inter - Messina ik zeg dat we nu eens een zegereeks zullen krijgen

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Op vrijdag 3 december 2004 13:14 schreef DIGGER het volgende:

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Dat zou Inter aan haar stand (en gezien het programma) eigenlijk wel verplicht zijn ja (Siena uit, Brescia thuis, Livorno uit).
Maar goed, of het gebeurd, ik denk dat ze al dolblij zullen zijn als ze zaterdag eindelijk eens winnen.

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Parma-Milan 2
Inter-Messina 1
Cagliari-Chievo X
Fiorentina-Bologna 1
Juventus-Lazio 1
Lecce-Livorno 1
Palermo-Atalanta 1
Reggina-Brescia X
Udinese-Siena 1
Roma-Sampdoria 1

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Op vrijdag 3 december 2004 10:24 schreef pfaf het volgende:
Parma - Milan 1

Dit weekend de ommekeer.

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Op zondag 5 december 2004 15:58 schreef pfaf het volgende:

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