[ 9-11 ] de overschot aan oefeningen op 9-11

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Op vrijdag 24 september 2004 18:43 schreef BaajGuardian het volgende:

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noem het maar Op de hoogte zijnde ipv believers.
en daarnaast. niet een paar duizend.
maar al tien zowat wel honderd duizenden zijn al op de hoogte van de inside job.

wat was die poll ook al weer laatst ;')
40% ofzo dacht dat de overheid iig iets te maken had met 911
het MIHOP of LIHOP (made / let .. it happen on purpose)
60% in europa
mss dat iemand de link nog heeft

NO OFFENCE
kan iedereen even opbokken met het off topic gebeuren
het _zou hier moeten gaan_ over de oefeningen die op die dag gehouden zijn
zo moeilijk _leek_ me dat niet
_{is maar de derde keer dat ik het vraag ofzo}




wel lief dat juist dat off topic gedeelte het topic deed leven .. hmm ..
nouja .. als het off topic gaat is niet erg .. maar ga er niet teveel op door ofzo
ifk

[ Bericht 15% gewijzigd door coz op 25-09-2004 02:15:44 ]

mag die lap dan hieruit .. om weer de reacties die ongetwijfeld volgen even tegen te houden
vervang maar door de link
sorry, heeft niets met of het waar of niet waar is enz te maken van je post, maar dit hele topic bevat ondertussen meer off topic dan on topic

maargoed .. je hebt dus die oefeningen ... en of dat er nou veel of weinig zijn
dan stop je die toch als je ontdekt dat er echte vluchten zijn gekaapt
dan gaat de vlieger nog niet eens op van we konden niet overal op tijd reageren omdat we bezig waren....

ook een leuke is dat ze niet evenveel vliegtuigen ter beschikken hadden, door oefeningen

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There is no credible evidence to suggest that 9/11 was an "intelligence failure." The real intelligence failure has been in the media (both corporate owned and foundation funded "alternative" media), which has not bothered to connect the dots of the evidence. The "Complete 9/11 Timeline," by the Center for Cooperative Research, has more than 1,000 mass media articles that show that 9/11 was not a "failure." The official 9/11 Commission which supposedly investigated the attacks failed to ask the most basic questions and ignored nearly all of the best evidence

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ik las net nog een detail
wie weet er het gehele tijdspad nou wel .. lees dit heb ik nog niet geauthenticiteerd

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The anthrax attacks on the media and the Democratic leadership in the Senate (when Congress was considering the "Patriot Act")

of wat als niet ze halverwege toch bedachten dat die kerncentrale mss wel leuker was dan twee torens

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Flight 11, the first hijacked plane, flew over Indian Point nuclear power station, just north of New York City (an attack there would have been much, much worse than 9/11).

uhm
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030303fa_fact

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"Emergency Planning for Indian Point: A Guide for You and Your Family" is a booklet published as a public service by the plant's owner, Entergy Nuclear Northeast. Part "Hints from Heloise," part "Dr. Strangelove," the booklet has a cheerful blue cover decorated with drawings of a siren and a reactor dome. Inside, it is filled with tips like "Six Facts You Need to Know About KI—Potassium Iodide" (No. 1: it can protect your thyroid if you are exposed to radioactive iodine) and "helpful answers" to questions like "Could Indian Point explode like a bomb?" ("No. It is impossible for any nuclear power plant to explode like a bomb under any conditions.")

zal dat boekje ook rekening houden met een vliegtuig

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Nowhere does the booklet explicitly mention sabotage, but this fear was clearly on the minds of the authors:

Q: How can I be sure that Indian Point is secure and well-protected?
A: Indian Point is defended by armed guards, sophisticated detection equipment and other advanced protection systems that meet or exceed federal, state and local requirements.

tja gelukkig weten terroristen niet hoe een kerncentrale er uit ziet ?

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overschot mag uit de titel op jouw verzoek
die nro oefeningen zijn gestopt volgens het nieuwsbericht

en het niet stoppen is speculatief .. onder andere gebasseerd op

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In re. to: "Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta was in the
Presidential Emergency Operating Center with Vice President Cheney as
Flight 77 approached Washington, D.C. On May 23, 2003 in front of the
9/11 Commission, Secretary Mineta testified:

"During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there
was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out." "The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got
down to "the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice
President, "Do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned
and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand.
Have you heard anything to the contrary?"

As the plane in question hit the Pentagon, what else can we conclude but
that the 'order' was not to shoot down the aircraft and to let it find
its target."
----dit is dus van jones site... en dit is een reactie van een lezer----
I SUBMIT THAT THE "ORDER" IN QUESTION MORE ALONG THE LINES OF:

"SIR, SHOULD BE CONTINUE THE WARGAMES?"

"YOU HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING DIFFERANT, HAVE YOU?"

THE EFFECT WAS THE SAME HOWEVER. THE WARGAMES OBVIOUSLY WERE ORDERED TO CONTINUE NO MATTER WHAT EVENTS MAY TAKE PLACE. THEY WERE ALSO CLASSIFIED AS SECRET OR TOP SECRET SO THAT THE MANY LINE LEVEL STAFF INVOLVED COULD BE THREATENED WITH PROSECUTION IF THEY DISCUSSED ANY ASPECT OF THE WARGAMES. I ALSO SUBMIT, BASED UPON EVIDENCE I HAVE DISCOVERED, THAT THERE WAS IN FACT A GROUND BASED WARGAME IN PROGRESS AT THE PENTAGON WHEN IT WAS "ATTACKED".

---------------het is dus niet altijd AJ die schreeuwt --------
----------andere opmerking van een lezer-------

Thanks for the article on the wargames part of the 911 Coverup. One VERY important point no one talks about anymore: The air traffic controllers were ORDERED to take the tape recordings of 911 and cut them up into 1/4" pieces and scatter them in DIFFERENT wastebaskets. WHO GAVE THIS ORDER? It's VERY interesting. Thanks for all your good work!

maar laten we maar zeggen dat als ze direct stopten
- jets (die normaal dan dus gescrambled worden) die normaal met raketten bewapend zijn moesten waren toen met bommen geladen
- andere jets waren verver weg door andere oefeningen
- andere jets vlogen eerst richting de zee omdat ze iets van het buitenland verwachten

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TAPE Voice2: "Is this real world or exercise?"

TAPE Voice1: "No, this is not an exercise, not a test."

TAPE Voice2: "Ah, do we want to think about scrambling [military] aircraft?"

TAPE Voice1: "Ah, God, I don't know."

TAPE Voice2: "That is a decision somebody is going to have to make sometime in the next ten minutes."

TAPE Voice1: "You know, everybody just left the room."

wat ik er tnt uit kan opmaken is dat er aan beide kanten vertraging zat bij flight 11

[ Bericht 76% gewijzigd door coz op 26-09-2004 12:10:29 ]

de pers , norad, faa en het onderzoekscommisie geven allemaal andere tijden
lekker duidelijk

of gaven .. ik heb het op meerdere sites gelezen dat statement, zonder dat ze allemaal exact elkaars verhalen hebben overgenomen ..


dit is iig wat je nu krijgt op de site van norad
HTTP 404 - File not found
Internet Explorer

maar dit is wat er ooit stond

NORAD’s Response Times


PETERSON AFB, Colo. --The following timelines show NORAD’s response to the airliner hijackings on September 11, 2001.



* All times are Eastern Daylight Time; NEADS = North East Air Defense Sector, NORAD

** Scramble = Order to get an aircraft airborne as soon as possible

***Estimated = loss of radar contact

**** Flight times are calculated at 9 miles per minute or .9 Mach

***** The FAA and NEADS established a line of open communication discussing AA Flt 77 and UA Flt 93





American Airlines Flight 11 – Boston enroute to Los Angeles

FAA Notification to NEADS 0840*

Fighter Scramble Order (Otis Air National Guard Base, Falmouth, Mass. Two F-15s) 0846**

Fighters Airborne 0852

Airline Impact Time (World Trade Center 1) 0846 (estimated)***

Fighter Time/Distance from Airline Impact Location Aircraft not airborne/153 miles



United Airlines Flight 175 – Boston enroute to Los Angeles

FAA Notification to NEADS 0843

Fighter Scramble Order (Otis ANGB, Falmouth, Mass. Same 2 F-15s as Flight 11) 0846

Fighters Airborne 0852

Airline Impact Time (World Trade Center 2) 0902 (estimated)

Fighter Time/Distance from Airline Impact Location approx 8 min****/71 miles



American Flight 77 –Dulles enroute to Los Angeles

FAA Notification to NEADS 0924

Fighter Scramble Order (Langley AFB, Hampton, Va. 2 F-16s) 0924

Fighters Airborne 0930

Airline Impact Time (Pentagon) 0937(estimated)

Fighter Time/Distance from Airline Impact Location approx 12 min/105 miles



United Flight 93 – Newark to San Francisco

FAA Notification to NEADS N/A *****

Fighter Scramble Order (Langley F-16s already airborne for AA Flt 77)

Fighters Airborne (Langley F-16 CAP remains in place to protect DC)

Airline Impact Time (Pennsylvania) 1003 (estimated)

Fighter Time/Distance from Airline Impact Location approx 11 min/100 miles

(from DC F-16 CAP)

die link heeft ook het hele oefeningen verhaal in het nederlands
http://www.daanspeak.com/USAUnderAttack07r.html

http://counterpunch.org/madsen04222003.html

Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult
Concerns Raised by the Vatican
by WAYNE MADSEN

George W. Bush proclaims himself a born-again Christian. However, Bush and fellow self-anointed neo-Christians like House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, John Ashcroft, and sports arena Book of Revelations carnival hawker Franklin Graham appear to wallow in a "Christian" blood lust cult when it comes to practicing the teachings of the founder of Christianity. This cultist form of Christianity, with its emphasis on death rather than life, is also worrying the leaders of mainstream Christian religions, particularly the Pope.

One only has to check out Bush's record as Governor of Texas to see his own preference for death over life. During his tenure as Governor, Bush presided over a record setting 152 executions, including the 1998 execution of fellow born-again Christian Karla Faye Tucker, a convicted murderer who later led a prison ministry. Forty of Bush's executions were carried out in 2000, the year the Bush presidential campaign was spotlighting their candidate's strong law enforcement record. The Washington Post's Richard Cohen reported in October 2000 that one of the execution chamber's "tie-down team" members, Fred Allen, had to prepare so many people for lethal injections during 2000, he quit his job in disgust.

Bush mocked Tucker's appeal for clemency. In an interview with Talk magazine, Bush imitated Tucker's appeal for him to spare her life - pursing his lips, squinting his eyes, and in a squeaky voice saying, "Please don't kill me." That went too far for former GOP presidential candidate Gary Bauer, himself an evangelical Christian. "I think it is nothing short of unbelievable that the governor of a major state running for president thought it was acceptable to mock a woman he decided to put to death," said Bauer. [[ een gevangene mag vrijspraak van een executie vragen, en kreeg dus niet een "nee" maar een nogal matige imitatie ]]

A former Texas Department of Public Safety officer, a devout Roman Catholic, told this reporter that evidence to the contrary, Bush was more than happy to ignore DNA data and documented cases of prosecutorial misconduct to send innocent people to the Huntsville, Texas lethal injection chamber. He said the number of executed mentally retarded, African Americans, and those who committed capital crimes as minors was proof that Bush was insensitive and a "phony Christian." When faced with similar problems in Illinois, Governor George Ryan, a Republican, commuted the death sentences of his state's death row inmates and released others after discovering they were wrongfully convicted. Yet the Republican Party is pillorying Ryan and John Ashcroft's Justice Department continues to investigate the former Governor for political malfeasance as if Bush and Ashcroft are without sin in such matters. Hypocrisy certainly rules in the Republican Party.

Bush's blood lust has been extended across the globe. He has given the CIA authority to assassinate those deemed a threat to U.S . national interests. Bush has virtually suspended Executive Orders 11905 (Gerald Ford), 12306 (Jimmy Carter), and 12333 (Ronald Reagan) which prohibit the assassination of foreign leaders. Bush's determination to kill Saddam Hussein, his family, and his top leaders with precision-guided missiles and tactical nuclear weapon-like Massive Ordnance Air Blast (MOAB) bombs is yet another indication of Bush's disregard for his Republican and Democratic predecessors. It now appears that in his zeal to kill Hussein, innocent civilian patrons of a Baghdad restaurant were killed by one of Bush's precision Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAMs). Like it or not, Saddam Hussein was recognized by over 100 nations as the leader of Iraq -- a member state of the United Nations. Hussein, like North Korea' Kim Jong Il, Syria's Bashir Assad, and Iran's Mohammed Khatami, are covered by Executive Order 12333, which the Bush mouthpieces claim is still in effect. Bush's "Christian" blood cult sees no other option than death for those who become his enemies. This doctrine is found no place in Christian theology.

Bush has not once prayed for the innocent civilians who died as a result of the U.S. attack on Iraq. He constantly "embeds" himself with the military at Goebbels-like speech fests and makes constant references to God when he refers to America's "victory" in Iraq, as if God endorses his sordid killing spree. He makes no mention of the children, women, and old men killed by America's "precision-guided" missiles and bombs and trigger-happy U.S. troops. In fact, Bush revels in indiscriminate blood letting. Since he never experienced such killing in Southeast Asia, when he was AWOL from his Texas Air National Guard unit [[ ook een leuk verhaal idd, bush en het ontwijken van vietnam]], Bush just does not seem to understand the horror of a parent watching one's children having their heads and limbs blown off in a sudden blast of shrapnel or children witnessing their parents burning to death with their own body fat nurturing the flames.

Bush and his advisers, previously warned that Iraq's ancient artifacts and collection of historical documents and books were in danger of being looted or destroyed, instead, sat back while the Baghdad and Mosul museums and Baghdad Library were ransacked and destroyed. Cult leaders have historically attempted to destroy history in order to invent their own. The Soviets tried to obliterate Russia's Orthodox traditions, turning a number of churches into warehouses and animal barns. Cambodia's Pol Pot tried to wipe out Buddhism's famed Angkor Wat shrine in an attempt to stamp out his country's Buddhist history. In March 2001, while they were negotiating with the Bush administration on a natural gas pipeline, Afghanistan's Taliban blew up two massive 1600-year old Buddhas in Bamiyan. The Bush administration, itself run by fanatic religious cultists, barely made a fuss about the loss of the relics.[/b] It would not be the first time the cultists within the Bush administration ignored the pillaging of history's treasures.[/b] [[ondertussen worden er irakis gevangen genomen omdat ze 'plunderen' (voedsel, hout ed) ... of wordt je auto vermorzeld door een tank omdat je hout 'steelt' ( best lastig als je taxi chauffeur bent) ]]

The ransacking of Iraq's historical treasures is explainable when one considers what the blood cult Christians really think about Islam. Franklin Graham, the heir to the empire built up by his anti-Semitic father, Billy Graham, has decided being anti-Muslim is far more financially rewarding than being anti-Jewish. Billy Graham, history notes from the Nixon tapes, complained about the Jewish stranglehold on the media and Jews being responsible for pornography.

Franklin Graham continues to enjoy his father's unfettered and questionable access to the White House. But in the case of Bush, the younger Graham has a fanatic adherent. Graham has called Islam a "very evil and wicked" religion. He then announces he wants to go to Iraq. Graham obviously sees an opportunity to convert Muslims and unrepentant Eastern Christians, who owe their allegiance to Roman and Greek prelates, to his perverted form of blood cult Christianity. Graham says he is ready to send his Samaritan's Purse missionaries into Iraq to provide assistance. Muslims and mainstream Christians are wary that Graham wants to exchange food, water, and medicine for the baptism of Iraqis into his intolerant brand of Christianity. In the last Gulf War, Graham could not get away with his chicanery. The Desert Storm Commander, General Norman Schwarzkopf, stopped dead in the tracks Graham's plan to send 30,000 Arabic language Bibles to U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia. Today's Pentagon shows no such compunction to put a rein on Graham. It invited him to give a Good Friday sermon at the Pentagon to the consternation of the Defense Department's Muslim employees. To make matters worse, under Bush's "Faith Based Initiative," Graham's Samaritan's Purse stands to receive U.S. government funds for its proselytizing efforts in Iraq, something that should be an affront to every American taxpayer.

Bush's self-proclaimed adherence to Christianity (during one of the presidential debates he said Jesus Christ was his favorite "philosopher" [[ goed bezig joh ]]) and his constant reference to a new international structure bypassing the United Nations system and long-standing international treaties are worrying the top leadership of the Roman Catholic Church. Well-informed sources close to the Vatican report that Pope John Paul II is growing increasingly concerned about Bush's ultimate intentions. The Pope has had experience with Bush's death fetish. Bush ignored the Pope's plea to spare the life of Karla Faye Tucker. To show that he was similarly ignorant of the world's mainstream religions, Bush also rejected an appeal to spare Tucker from the World Council of Churches - an organization that represents over 350 of the world's Protestant and Orthodox Churches. It did not matter that Bush's own Methodist Church and his parents' Episcopal Church are members of the World Council.

Bush's blood lust, his repeated commitment to Christian beliefs, and his constant references to "evil doers," in the eyes of many devout Catholic leaders, bear all the hallmarks of the one warned about in the Book of Revelations - the anti-Christ. People close to the Pope claim that amid these concerns, the Pontiff wishes he was younger and in better health to confront the possibility that Bush may represent the person prophesized in Revelations. John Paul II has always believed the world was on the precipice of the final confrontation between Good and Evil as foretold in the New Testament. Before he became Pope, Karol Cardinal Wojtyla said, "We are now standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has gone through. I do not think that wide circles of the American society or wide circles of the Christian community realize this fully. We are now facing the final confrontation between the Church and the anti-Church, of the Gospel versus the anti-Gospel." The Pope, who grew up facing the evils of Hitler and Stalin, knows evil when he sees it. Although we can all endlessly argue over the Pope's effectiveness in curtailing abuses within his Church, his accomplishments external to Catholicism are impressive.

According to journalists close to the Vatican, the Pope and his closest advisers are also concerned that the ultimate acts of evil - the September 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon - were known in advance by senior Bush administration officials. By permitting the attacks to take their course, there is a perception within the Roman Catholic Church hierarchy that a coup d'etat was implemented, one that gave Bush and his leadership near-dictatorial powers to carry out their agenda.
[[even niet vergeten datje zga een terrorist bent als je dit denkt (het antichrist verhaal , maar vast ook het voorkennis en MIHOP.;) ]]

The Pope worked tirelessly to convince leaders of nations on the UN Security Council to oppose Bush's war resolution on Iraq. Vatican sources claim they had not seen the Pope more animated and determined since he fell ill to Parkinson's Disease. In the end, the Pope did convince the leaders of Mexico, Chile, Cameroon, and Guinea to oppose the U.S. resolution. If one were to believe in the Book of Revelations, as the Pope fervently does, he can seek solace in scoring a symbolic victory against the Bush administration. Whether Bush represents a dangerous right-wing ideologue who couples his political fanaticism with a neo-Christian blood cult (as I believe) or he is either the anti-Christ or heralds one, the Pope should know he has fought the good battle and has gained the respect and admiration of many non-Catholics around the world.

Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist and columnist. He wrote the introduction to Forbidden Truth.

Madsen can be reached at: WMadsen777@aol.com

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ik dacht ik post ff niet alleen de link bij dat verhaal
maar er zijn ondertussen zo veel mensen die vraagtekens zetten bij het hele verhaal
dat je het weinig paranoide meer kan noemen

nog zo'n link

'In December 2002 Senator Charles Grassly, a Republican, described as a “slap in the face” and “shocking” a decision by FBI director Robert Mueller to give an award for ‘exceptional performance to Marion "Spike" Bowman, head of the FBI's national security law unit. The award is officially titled ‘Presidential Rank of Meritorious Service’ and includes cash bonuses of between 20 percent or 35 percent of each recipient's base salary. Bowman was instrumental in calling FBI agents off the trail of Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called ‘20th hijacker’ whose arrest many analysts conclude would have cracked the September 11 plot before it was carried out. Grassly stated, "Unfortunately, this award continues a bad tradition. If the FBI is ever to reform, there must be accountability."

beloning voor 'falen' 11 september
http://www.daanspeak.com/USAUnderAttack07o.html

oh btw ...
de oefening van oa norad op 9-11 was een jaarlijkse oefening

The VIGILANT GUARDIAN (VG) is a VIGILANT OVERVIEW (VO) Command Post Exercise (CPX) conducted in conjunction with USCINCSTRAT-sponsored GLOBAL GUARDIAN and USCINCSPACE-sponsored APOLLO GUARDIAN exercises. The exercise involves all HQ NORAD levels of command and is designed to exercise most aspects of the NORAD mission. One VG is scheduled each year and the length will vary depending on the exercise scenario and objectives.

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Op dinsdag 28 september 2004 12:34 schreef RM-rf het volgende:

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sorry, wat is de relevantie van dat tendentieuze artikel over Bush en eventuele bloed-cult achtergronden in zijn christendom...?
Het hele artikel kent geen één verwijzing naar 11 september, en al helemaal geen verwijzingen naarde oefeningen ... totaal offtopic dus, je mening over die president mag duidelijk zijn, maar ik zie niet het nut in om een discussie over feitelijk zaken rondom 11 september al tezeer te laten verzanden in gevit op die man ... (daarbij doe je eerder pogingen tot waarheids-vinding teniet, dat gejen op Bush is een perfecte afleiding van werkelijk zoeken naar beschuldigende feiten )

tja dat het off topic is klopt ... if you cant beat them .. .. er mist op bepaalde punten dus wel een centraal topic .. maargoed, ik wil er ook wel een nieuw topic voor openen hoor ..
ik hoef ook niet zo nodig te vitten op hem ,ik vind hem nog best schattig .. met al die versprekingen enz

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Het twee stukje is wel interessant:
Inderdaad is die FBI beslissing om de laptop van die gearresteerde terreur-verdachtte niet te doorzoeken enorm twijfelachtig ...
Volgens mij zijn daar, bewust en onbewust door die legale afdeling grote fouten gemaakt, en is er in het latere 911 onderzoek te weinig aandacht aan besteed:
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toch apart ..aldie discutabele onderzoeken

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Op dinsdag 28 september 2004 13:18 schreef Chewbacca het volgende:
Films worden gemanipuleerd om boodschappen te geven en mensen te manipuleren. Zaken die in de media terecht komen worden gescensureerd. Waarom geloofd men dit. Deze veranderingen zijn zo ingrijpend en allesomvattend dat wanneer dit echt zou gebeuren mensen absoluut achterdochtig worden.

Het probleem is dat bijvoorbeeld baaj alles onderbouwd met subjectiviteiten en er geen feiten op tafel worden gelegd. Verdachte omstandigheden zijn pure specualaties. Het probleem is dat jij conclusies verbind aan deze zaken. Ik veroordeel je niet, maar de waarheid is heel anders.

kom op zeg .. alsof baaj hier alleen schuldig aan zou zijn
alleen omdat hij tot het groepje behoort wat er vaak iets over zegt en bij tegenwerking sneller uit zijn slof schiet heeft ie zo'n negatieve status .. nouja prima hoor
maar hier is al genoeg over gezegd in de FB..

ok ok AJ heeft niet bepaald een lieve manier om alles te vertellen wat ie wil vertellen
hij wil sommige woorden wel eens iets harder uitspreken
boeie .. maar het gaat een beetje ver om alles aan de conspiracytheoristen over een kam te scheren, tot die club horen nogal wat namen tegenwoordig. en velen hebben een heel wat minder dubieuze status..
kijk eens naar Ruppert .. er stond een beloning van 1000$ op een film om daar binnen een jaar feiten van te bewijzen als onwaar ..

dat er sites zijn die het luik voor het landingsgestel op lage kwaliteit video niet kunnen onderscheiden van een bom.. laat dat soort zooi dan ook terecht links liggen
niet alles is gebaseerd op speculatie, maar dat hoef je niet van mij aan te nemen hoor

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Op dinsdag 28 september 2004 17:18 schreef ramzes het volgende:
1 woord: PNAC-document.
(of zijn dat 2 woorden...?)

Project for the New American Century
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
The Project for the New American Century, or PNAC, is a Washington, DC-based think tank of the United States. The group was established in spring 1997 as a non-profit organization with the goal of promoting "American global leadership." The chairman is William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard. Present and former members include several prominent members of the Republican Party and Bush Administration, including Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Jeb Bush, Richard Perle, Richard Armitage, Dick Cheney, Lewis Libby, William J. Bennett, Zalmay Khalilzad, and Ellen Bork, the wife of Robert Bork. A large number of its ideas and its members are associated with the neoconservative movement. PNAC has seven full-time staff members, in addition to its board of directors.

The PNAC is quite controversial. Some have raised concerns that the project can be viewed as proposing military and economic domination of land, space, and cyberspace by the United States, so as to establish American dominance in world affairs (Pax Americana) for the indefinite future—hence the term "the New American Century." Supporters argue the project's aims and agendas are often misinterpreted, sometimes deliberately.

Contents [showhide]
1 Backround

2 Core views and beliefs

3 Controversy

4 Bush Administration

5 Other Members

6 See also

7 External links

8 Analysis of PNAC

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Backround
The Project is an initiative of the New Citizenship Project, a non-profit 501c3 organization that is funded by the Bradley Foundation [1] (http://www.mediatransparency.org/funders/bradley_foundation.htm).

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Core views and beliefs
PNAC's website clearly states the groups "fundamental propositions":

"That American leadership is good both for America and for the world; that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle; and that too few political leaders today are making the case for global leadership.
In September 2000, the PNAC issued an 80-page report entitled Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces, And Resources For A New Century (http://newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf). The report has been the subject of much analysis and criticism.

The group states that when diplomacy has failed, military action is an acceptable and necessary resort. PNAC advocates the installation of permanent military bases around the world for the establishment of a United States Global Constabulary. This global police force would have the power to keep law and order around the world in accordance with rules that the United States would establish as being proper and just. It also advocates the United States government should capitalize on its military and economic superiority to gain unchallengeable superiority through all means necessary, including military force.

The PNAC and its members had long called for the United States to abandon the ABM Treaty. The PNAC also proposes to control the new "international commons" of space and "cyberspace" and pave the way for the creation of a new military service - U.S. Space Forces - with the mission of space control. In 1998, Rumsfeld chaired a bipartisan commission on the US Ballistic Missile Threat towards advancement of these goals.

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Controversy
The PNAC has been the subject of considerable criticism and controversy.

Many dispute the premise that American world leadership is desirable for the world or even for America. The PNAC's harshest critics argue that it represents a broad, borderline imperial agenda of global US military expansionism and dominance. Supporters reply that the PNAC's goals are not fundamentally different than what has long been proposed by other conservative foreign policy analysts, and that the PNAC is the target of unfair conspiracy theories.

Much of the basis for its critics' arguments is derived from the text of Rebuilding America's Defenses. PNAC critics suggest that portions of the document call into question the true motives behind the 2003 invasion of Iraq, although the document does not explicitly call for an invasion.

A section of the document that has proved particularly controversial can be found in Section V, "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force" (page 53):

"Further, the process of transformation...is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor."

Critics of the PNAC have suggested that the September 11, 2001 attacks were just such an event, which were then cynically exploited by the Bush administration to enable it to aggressively pursue the PNAC's agenda. (Some conspiracy theorists see this passage as evidence of complicity in the attacks.)

Supporters of the PNAC say the quote is taken out of the context of a discussion specifically about military use of information technologies, and the report is simply guessing that full transformation to new technologies is likely to be a slow process unless some "catalyzing" event causes the military to upgrade more quickly.

The quote is a source of much spirited - and frequently extremely partisan and ill-informed - debate, and readers may find it more enlightening to examine the document directly than to rely on third party interpretations.

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Bush Administration
After the election of George W. Bush, many of PNAC's members were appointed to key positions within the new President's administration:


Name Department Title Other remarks
Elliott Abrams National Security Council Representative for Middle Eastern Affairs President of the Ethics and Public Policy Center
Richard Armitage Department of State Deputy Secretary of State
John R. Bolton Department of State Undersecretary for Arms Control and International Security Affairs
Dick Cheney Bush Administration Vice President PNAC founder
Seth Cropsey Voice of America Director of the International Broadcasting Bureau
Paula Dobriansky Department of State Undersecretary of State for Global Affairs
Francis Fukuyama President's Council on Bioethics Council Member Professor of International Political Economy at Johns Hopkins University
Bruce Jackson U.S. Committee on NATO President
Zalmay Khalilzad U.S.-Afganistan Embassy in Kabul Ambassador
Lewis Libby Bush Administration Chief of Staff for the Vice President
Peter W. Rodman Department of Defense Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security
Donald Rumsfeld Department of Defense Secretary of Defense PNAC founder
Randy Scheunemann U.S. Committee on NATO, Project on Transitional Democracies, International Republican Institute Member Founded the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq.
Paul Wolfowitz Department of Defense Deputy Secretary of Defense
Dov S. Zakheim Department of Defense Comptroller
Robert B. Zoellick Office of the United States Trade Representative U.S. Trade Representative


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Other Members
Gary Bauer, former presidential candidate, president of American Values
William J. Bennett, former Secretary of Education and Drug Czar, co-founder of Empower America, author of the Book of Virtues
Ellen Bork, deputy director of PNAC
Rudy Boschwitz
Jeb Bush, governor of Florida
Eliot A. Cohen, professor of strategic studies at Johns Hopkins University
Thomas Donnelly, director of communications, Lockheed Martin
Steve Forbes, multi-billionare publisher of Forbes Magazine, former presidential candidate
Aaron Friedberg, director of the Center of International Studies
Frank Gaffney, columnist, founder of Center for Security Policy
Reuel Marc Gerecht, director of the Middle East Initiative
Fred Ikle, Center for Strategic and International Studies
Donald Kagan, Yale University professor, conservative columnist with various State Department ties
Jeane Kirkpatrick, former U.S. ambassador
Charles Krauthammer
William Kristol, a PNAC founder and chairman, editor of the Weekly Standard
Christopher Maletz
Daniel McKivergan
Richard Perle, a PNAC founder, formerly of the Defense Policy Board
Norman Podhoretz, Hudson Institute
Dan Quayle, former vice-president
Stephen Rosen, Beton Michael Kaneb Professor of National Security and Military Affairs, Harvard University
Henry Rowen, former president of Rand Corporation
Gary Schmitt
Vin Weber, former congressman, lobbyist, vice-chairman of Empower America
George Weigel, political commentator
R. James Woolsey, vice-president at Booz Allen & Hamilton
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See also
Committee for the Liberation of Iraq
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External links
PNAC Website (http://newamericancentury.org)
Sep 2000 Rebuilding America's Defenses plan (http://newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf) (Adobe .pdf file format)
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Analysis of PNAC
PNAC.info (http://pnac.info). An anti-PNAC website claiming to "investigate, analyze, and expose" the PNAC.
Paul Reynolds, BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2801349.stm)
PNAC members and their letters (http://www.opednews.com/new%20american%20century.htm)
Terry Jones: ‘Could Tony Blair look at the internet now, please? (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,905990,00.html)’ and ‘Why look in the crystal ball? (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/worldview/story/0,11581,949384,00.html)’
Interpretation (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/sep2003/meac-s08.shtml) of Michael Meacher, former cabinet minister for Tony Blair
‘New York, you've been used (http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/091503A.shtml)’ by William Rivers Pitt, attacking the PNAC
PNAC letter to (http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm) Bill Clinton

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ik denk dat wikipedia behoorlijk neutraal is

wat me nou opvalt eigenlijk is dat er aan de ene kant dus een fbi doc is die alle groeperingen en statements over antichrist en nwo ed op ze minst beschouwd als onwenselijk

maar zoals net ook ergens te lezen valt denkt zelfs de paus dat bush mss niet helemaal lekker bezig is .. rara welk woord ..

en aan de andere kant is pnac net zo'n clubje .. rara wie er daar zaten en nu in dus .. zie wikipedia op belangrijke plekken zitten ..