Juni 2004 - The Apocalypse

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2004 05:06 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:
Een grote wolk zwarte materie is ons zonnestelsel binnengedrongen. De uiterste randen van de wolk hebben ons langzaam bereikt en sindsdien is de concentratie 'gruis' in de ruimte gestaag toegenomen.

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Uit het artikel van Bushcountry.org

Like I asked you to do in the last article I sent you, please keep my name off this article as individuals who have leaked this information have had their lives threatened.

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2004 09:58 schreef sir_Tachyon het volgende:
Ehm die meteoren zou je toch wel zien aankomen?? Ik bedoel een ervaren hobby-astroloog zou toch wel wat opmerken?? Of gaan die meteoren met halve lichtsnelheid??
En wat is het belangrijkste bij een Apocalypse is ?????......................

De Helm

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2004 10:09 schreef Chewie het volgende:
Volgens Ausie Bloke kun je ze niet zien vanwege die dust-cloud met een gemiddelde huis-tuin en keuken telescoop. _{typische vrijdagdrukte hier op het werk, dus tijd genoeg gehad om zijn mailings te lezen}

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Oh yes....one little interesting fact I forgot to mention here. 25 years ago I was at an astronomer’s convention in Canberra and we were discussing the possible effects of the debris cloud of the crab nebula passing through our solar system in 2000 to 2005. I wonder if this may have something to do with all the "stories" and such about nibiru and other similar stuff?? Something to ponder. And by the way....don’t go expecting me to give technical details and other rubbish like that.

* RM-rf voorspelt voor 2012 het einde der onheilsprofetieen

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2004 05:06 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:
Omdat in de aanloop van de komst van de wolk, en de verdikking van de materie in het zonnestelsel, er steeds meer effecten op aarde merkbaar zouden worden (zoals weersveranderingen, afbraak van hoge luchtlagen en het dimmen van het zonlicht) werden alternatieve 'verklaringen' bedacht om het publiek bezig te houden.

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2004 10:43 schreef Mr-Mackey het volgende:
Wat een bull....
Een witte dwerg explodeert niet, hoor. Een ster gaat nova, stoot materie uit en gaat samentrekken.
Afhankelijk van de massa, zal er een heliumflis komen (He-fusie ipv H) en uitendelijk sterft de ster.
Vervolgens koelt de massa af: witte dwerg --> bruine dwerg.
Bij zwaardere sterren zal er zich geen witte dwerg vormen, maar een neutronenster en de echt reusachtige sterren zullen uiteindelijk een zwart gat vormen.

Dat de aarde dus door een stuk witte dwerg geraakt zal worden (niet eens een zwarte of bruine, maar een heuse witte!) slaat absoluut nergens op.

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2004 12:32 schreef Proxymusje het volgende:
potdomme, zijn net de examens voorbij, hebben we nog maar 4 dagen om te zuipen...

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Hi,

Our madcap moon seems intent on keeping to an itinerary that would do justice to a French train schedule! Here is a wagontrain packed plumb full of current data for my latitude!

Using a stationary landmark as a point of reference, last night's moonrise was marked at 110 degrees E of N on the compass. Tonight, (read'em and weep, Tea lovers!) That old hollow hellraiser kicked up dust at 123 degrees E of North.

Now, even allowing for an error margin of 2 or three degrees.... Houston...We have a problem!

As earlier so eloquently pointed out, 13 or so degrees is to be expected in forward motion of the moon in the course of two consecutive rises...13 degrees EAST, that is... take a look at a compass and you will see that the moon rose 13 degrees farther WEST...Let me repeat that for those who have both hands over their ears or eyes...WEST>>>WEST^^^WEST~~~ (!)

Sorry, Charlie! Wouldn't 19th century Newspaper man Horace Greeley be proud to see how prophetic his advice really was!

-CliffMickelson

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2004 13:59 schreef Haspel33 het volgende:

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2004 15:11 schreef RM-rf het volgende:

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hmm, die verwijzing naar Horace Greeley zou je aan het denken moeten zetten
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/moonhoax.html

In 1835 werd een artikel gepubliceerd in de New York Sun over waanzinnige astronomische ontdekkingen door een astronoom Herschell.
deze had echter geen enkele kennis van wat geschreven werd.

het is nooit duidelijk geworden wie de verhalen bedacht en geschreven heeft, maar over het algemeen werd alles wel degelijk zeer positief ook door andere tijdschriften beoordeeld, het had entertainment-waarde en was zeer onderhoudzaam opgezet.
de Sun verkocht veel extra kranten in de tijd dat de hoax liep.

Greeley was daar zelf niet bij betrokken maar werd later door een andere hoax (de 'miscegenation'-hoax gedwongen door zijn tegenstander om uitlating te doen over zaken waar hij zeer veel spijt van kreeg)http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/miscegenation.html

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Posted By: Shiffee

posted on 2-6-2004 at 05:53 PM Post Number: 568940 (post id: 589634)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread51056/pg38

You are all to be commended for your exemplary performance these past several weeks. Your unwitting participation in BLIND SKIES has proven most informative, and quite frankly entertaining to many project members. To say that it got out of hand would be an exercise in understatement. We picked GLP precisely because it was out of the way, off the beaten path of usual internet surfers. It suited our needs perfectly. Unmoderated. Anonymous posting. We couldn´t have asked for a better testbed unless we had built it ourselves.

Rest assured, Elaine is in no way part of this. She is/was as unaware of the true nature of our experiment as the rest of you.

Our initial hypothesis was straightforward enough: Given the barest minimum of verifiable evidence, ordinary citizens of average to above-average intelligence could be duped into wholesale belief in a catastrophe scenario, provided there was ample corroboration from equally ambiguous, non-credible sources.

We never anticipated the myth spreading beyond the confines of GLP. When the conservative website, Bushcountry, picked up the story, we realized that our initial models had failed miserably to account for the ´word-of-mouth´ potential inherent in the internet. At most, we thought perhaps a few other fringe sites might get on board, but it´s obvious to us now that it´s only a matter of time before a mainstream media outlet syndicates this content, at which point the story will explode into something far beyond our ability to control.

In fact, it may already be there.

We should have spoken up sooner. This all moved so quickly, we just weren´t prepared to adapt to the monster we had unleashed.

For our own protection, because it´s becoming abundantly clear that civil/criminal litigation may result from this experiment, we cannot and will not identify ourselves, nor will we reveal any details that might readily be traced to us. We´re confident that using IP logs will prove frustrating for you, at best.

Because of the overwhelming success of this project, we will not be apologizing. You all behaved exactly as we had predicted, falling into 2 camps on either side of the issue. The believers held fast to every scrap of datum, whether it was credible or not. The non-believers grew frustrated and angry as their attempts to apply logic and reason were ignored. Anger and dissent grew and grew, and ultimately the entire story devolved into an unintelligible mass of contradictory assertions and accusations. We are acutely aware that even our own admission in this forum will be viewed as yet more hoax material, albeit more cleverly crafted and well-thought out than standard fare for these pages.

BLIND SKIES began with an idea. The now-legendary SNOWBALL INTERCEPT provided the impetus we had been looking for, the final piece of a puzzle that had been confounding us for the past 14 months. It was the perfect backstory for a disaster scenario that would be easily accepted. Few people have any real knowledge of astronomy. Fewer still know much about the socio-political environment that modern astronomers operate within, and when one of our members suggested using an invented Australian astronomer to further muddy the waters, we knew it was time to release.

To be honest, we have no knowledge of the validity and/or credibility of the so-called SNOWBALL INTERCEPT. We have no affiliation with it whatsoever. We only used its existence to further our agenda. That current world events have proceeded in such a way as to lend perceived credibility to our fiction is by no means our fault. Many of you fail to appreciate the power of coincidence. While we had anticipated that at least some activity in current events would affect the outcome of the project, we never expected nor modelled the possibility of so many "dots", as some of you have called them, coming together around our story.

We planted the seeds with NOTED & WARNED. Just enough credibility to whet your appetites. We did hire an astronomer to assist us with the final stages of BLIND SKIES, so that we could craft messages containing sufficient truth to warrant further investigation. Following up with AUSSIE BLOKE, we added fuel to the fire in the form of a fictional, curmudgeonly astronomer whose conscience had finally moved him to reveal the details of an impending catastrophe to a select group of forum visitors on an obscure website.

Some of you saw through the veil. Some of you, even after reading this, will continue to insist upon the reality of ´AB´. While we predicted that some people would continue to believe even beyond the scope of the project, we did not anticipate the enormous numbers involved. Because so many people remain convinced (and will continue to remain convinced, even after reading this), we elected to release this message as a means of covering our collective behinds from whatever legal fallout remains ahead of us.

We´ve told you it´s not real. We´ve provided you a credible, logical explanation as to why it isn´t real and given you some insight as to what its true purpose was. In our eyes, we have absolved ourselves of at least some of the guilt that is surely to be laid at our feet in the coming days and weeks.

AUSSIE BLOKE has taken on a life of his own here. Our last use of him was the ´vacation´ message. Similarly, NOTED & WARNED has not been used by us for several weeks, and yet forum messages continue to appear, ostensibly implying that they are from these purely fictional characters.

Many of you picked up on the PLANET X elements in our story, and that was intended, as well. There are already many believers in this (we are not among them), and they provided a reliable base group that we could reasonably expect to buy into our story relatively early on.

BLIND SKIES is not, as many have claimed, a ´PSY OP´. Although we have an affiliation with the government, our mandate was not intended to be any sort of disinformation campaign, mass brainwashing, or subliminal manipulation. We conducted a serious experiment to study the panic reflexes of a virtual community, and quite frankly the experiment ran away from us. AUSSIE BLOKE has now become our Frankenstein´s Monster.

We applaud the efforts of so many of you to find the ´facts´ behind the fiction. We were impressed by the fact that many people realized their lack of astronomical knowledge, and sought to follow AB´s advice and LOOK TO THE SKIES, and INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELVES! We cannot say that we aren´t pleased with our role in inspiring a new renaissance in the field of astronomy.

Near Earth Objects are a threat to our planet, and someday perhaps there will be a scenario that closely matches what we created for BLIND SKIES. However, that day is not today.

We will continue to monitor these forums, along with many others, and we will continue to collect the data regarding your responses. Even the release of this message was factored into the experiment, however as we have already stated, we never anticipated releasing it to such a broad audience.

One interesting result that we had not considered was the various religous and prophetic threads that have spawned as a result of our experiment. One project member commented that it was encouraging to see that faith is not dead in the world.

And so, to you believers, I say be careful in what, and in whom, you place your faith and your trust. And, to you non-believers I say, continue to keep up the fight for truth and reason, because you are logic´s last line of defense.

With regards,

The Monitors

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2004 16:00 schreef iteejer het volgende:
Bijeffect kan natuurlijk wel zijn dat men niets meer serieus neemt.

Het heeft tot gevolg dat informatie steeds meer opgevat gaat worden als entertainment. Ik vind dat je voorzichtig moet zijn met dat soort dingen.

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2004 15:53 schreef The_Agency het volgende:
Er is nieuws... iemand of een groep stelt zich verantwoordelijk voor de postings van deze "aussie bloke" en heeft/hebben het volgende te melden:
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Het lijkt me erg aannemelijk dat dit gewoon waar is en geen "contra propaganda" .
Interessante test die die gasten uitgevoerd hebben.. kan niet anders zeggen.

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2004 09:43 schreef Chewie het volgende:
Ik vind dit verhaal van Aussie Bloke eigenlijk een beetje een mix tussen dit verhaal en films als Deep Impact, wat ik wel grappig is dat deze bloke in zijn mailing probeert uit te leggen waarom we juist nu dit soort films krijgen.

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2004 18:10 schreef BaajGuardian het volgende:
hoop dat het waar is...

dan gebeurt er weer eens wat..
het begint behoorlijk saai te worden tegenwoordig op het forum
kunnen we weer ergens over praten.
(in de laatste minuten maar ok)

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2004 19:10 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

Ik heb mijn uitzet op Ebay staan... er heeft al iemand 20 euro voor mijn bank en eethoek geboden.

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2004 08:13 schreef Tha.Gnome het volgende:
Hmm, ik weet het niet, maar als je al een beetje om je heen kijkt, kun je zelf ook wel tot de conclusie komen dat dit niet langer door kan blijven gaan.