Verdachten onthoofding Berg opgepakt

Ik ben wel benieuwd wat ze met die mensen gaan doen nu...

Propagandistisch gelul is het denk ik. Je pakt niet zomaar en zo snel mensen op die gemaskerd op een video staan. En TOEVALLIG is Al-Zarqawi wiens naam zo mooi op de video stond niet onder de gearresteerden maar de anderen wel. Ja ja!
Sinds they lie to start wars, cheat, kill and torture neem ik echt ALLES wat uit het Land of the Free komt met een zak zout.

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Op dinsdag 18 mei 2004 18:47 schreef Mikrosoft het volgende:
Sinds they lie to start wars, cheat, kill and torture neem ik echt ALLES wat uit het Land of the Free komt met een zak zout.

Je kunt ook overdrijven.

Waren het 4 GI's

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Op dinsdag 18 mei 2004 18:33 schreef The-Chosen1 het volgende:

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die sm kelder bedoel je ?

LoL

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Op dinsdag 18 mei 2004 19:43 schreef Chadi het volgende:
Waren het 4 GI's

zou toch toevallig zijn als die al terechtstonden voor het mishandelen van gevangenen en spontaan het een en ander hebben bekend in ruil voor een dealtje

was Berg niet gevangen geweest door de vS?

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Op dinsdag 18 mei 2004 19:46 schreef sp3c het volgende:

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zou toch toevallig zijn als die al terechtstonden voor het mishandelen van gevangenen en spontaan het een en ander hebben bekend in ruil voor een dealtje

was Berg niet gevangen geweest door de vS?

Jah hij is het laatst in hun handen gezien.

Hij zal wel opgemerkt hebben dat de Gi's mensen niet zo moesten onteren en humaan moesten omgaan met gevangenen. Tjah toen was het Donald..niet duck maar die andere en Donald zei ja jongens tot hier en niet verder en dat namen ze iets te letterlijk.of zo

Ik kan het bericht niet eens op de grote Amerikaanse nieuwssites terugvinden.

edit-Na een flinke schoonmaak + het nieuwsbericht weer open .

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BAGDAD In Irak zijn 4 mensen opgepakt
in verband met de onthoofding van de
Amerikaan Nick Berg.Onder hen is niet
de terrorist Al-Zarqawi,die Berg zou
hebben onthoofd.Het internet-filmpje
leidde vorige week tot grote beroering.

http://teletekst.nos.nl/tekst/130-02.html

Nicholas Berg was murdered by AMERICANS at Abu Ghraib prison

It's the same chair !!!! OMFG !!

Here's where you really need the tin foil hat. Look at this pic that was released today of the latest prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib prison. Notice the white chair in the lower left corner. Now - look at the chair Nicholas Berg is sitting in!! It's the same fucking chair!!

I have some more pics but the walls are the same yellow color and the baseboard is the same color as Abu Ghraib prison. Then - as I've said before - what is Nicholas Berg doing in an orange prison jump suit? The orange jump suit is the same color as the ones used at the prison!!! Terrorists don't put the people they kidnap in orange prison jump suits!

Now - put that together with the fact that these "terrorists" are WHITE and FAT and they are wearing BULLET PROOF VESTS!! So who goes around wearing bullet proof vests all the time? People like CIA - Prison guards!

This is enough to scare the shit out of you but - Nicholas Berg was murdered by AMERICANS at Abu Ghraib prison. They staged it so as to make it look like terrorists murdered Berg.

If you have a different opinion then you tell me why they have the same plastic furniture - the same walls - the same floorboard color - and the same orange jump suit. You tell me why these terrorists are fat white guys wearing bullet proof vests. You tell me why they speak bad Arabic. You tell me why they yell like Americans when they kill Berg. I suppose the terrorist picked up those chairs at the local WalMart!

There is a dispute as to if Berg was in US custody. He was arrested by Iraqi police but they claim they turned him over to American custody. America however denies that they had him.

CNN said initially that they were sure the voice was NOT al-Zarqawi. The CIA however confirms that it is. Isn't that amazing! I listen to the voices and it doesn't sound like the voices of someone who speaks Arabic as their first language.

But you see - it's not about the voices that make you think it's not al-Zarqawi. In May 2002 Zarqawi traveled to Iraq. He had his leg amputated and had a prosthetic limb to replace it. So - for a guy with ONE LEG al-Zarqawi is VERY NIMBLE on his feet! So - make you wonder how well the CIA thought things through when they decided to play terrorist?


This is what a REAL terrorists look like. This is the picture of Daniel Pearl who was also killed by terrorists. Notice the thin brown hands - the grabbing of the hair - and the gun to the head. The guy is mean - angry. Pearl has on ordinary clothes and his hands are chained. When you look at the picture you can feel the wildness of a true terrorist. You can tell Pearl looks like he knows he is in big trouble. The clothes on the terrorists look normal for the region - but on the photos of the Berg terrorists - they look like they are in a costume.


Now look at the Berg terrorists. These guys look like the 5 stooges! They are FAT and WHITE. Check out the guy on the right. Do I see WHITE SHOES? Wonder how he keeps them clean running around the Iraqi desert?

When he reads the statement - does he sound angry? I don't hear it. He's reading a script.

As to can see on terrorists 2, 4, and 5 - the BULLET PROOF VESTS. American MPs wear them all the time. To them it's like putting on their underwear. hey wear them so that if a prisoner tries to make a knife and stab them in the heart - they are protected. I guess they never thought they would show up under the terrorist costume.

Berg has no idea what it about to happen. He looks comfortable - perhaps to comfortable. I think they probably told him that they wanted him to pretend to be a hostage in order to get out of prison. Berg knew he was back at Abu Ghraib prison and that his "captors" were Americans - and that he was playing a role. Notice the orange prison garb in the picture.

The beheading changed the mood of the nation. Several lawmakers commented that after the beheading that it reminded them what the real issues were. So the beheading had the intended effect - that is - to inflame Americans and get them to think that torture is something that can be acceptable.

What we are seeing here people scares me beyond belief. I sit here stunned. I want to call someone but don't know who to call. If this turns out to be true - the world will experience a moment of horror unlike anything the world has ever experienced - except maybe the nuking of Japan.

WHAT YOU NEED TO DO: What I've posted here isn't an absolute conclusion but asks a lot of questions that need to be answered. I need you to get everyone possible to link to this web page - or - copy it and post it on other sites. I need you to call your members in the US House and Senate. I need you to call your local radio and TV stations and get them to look at this.

Even though exposing this is bad for America - what is really bad for America is if we do this and get away with it. We can not allow America to become like NAZIs.


http://marc.perkel.com/archives/000233.html

Western Voice Heard On Nick Berg Videotape: A faint Western voice can be heard twice in the final seconds of the infamous videotape of the beheading of Nick Berg. The voice may be saying "Thy Will Be Done."

http://www.breakfornews.com/berg-thywillbedone.mp3


It's the same chair !!!!

http://www.prisonplanet.tv/images/may2004/140504chair1.jpg

It's the same chair !!!!
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/images/may2004/140504chair2.jpg


The controversial website " La Voz de Aztlan" did probably find yet another "smoking gun" in the final frames of the Berg Video: "At frames 9306 through 9368, a person with a US military cap temporarily pokes about a quarter of his left head into the video."
[WARNING!! Graphic animated photo on Aztlan.net site.]

Aztlan.net -May 16

The most telling evidence that the video of the decapitation of Nicholas Berg was taken inside the Abu Ghraib prison can only be detected by performing a frame by frame analysis. La Voz de Aztlan did just that and some revealing frames came up that are difficult to see if the video is played on normal speed. Towards the end of the video, at frames 9306 through 9368, a person with a US military cap temporarily pokes about a quarter of his left head into the video.

His neck, left ear and part of his cap and visor can be seen. We have prepared an animated gif with just the relevant frames that clearly shows this at Animated Photo 7. Look at the right hand side as someone with a military cap, possibly with a second video camera, pokes his head into the video. Compare this animated gif with the MP whose cap is circled on Photo 4. (More at Aztlan.net)

http://www.aztlan.net/berg_abu_ghraib_video.htm

Het zaakje stinkt.

En niet een klein beetje ook.

Berg decapitation video was filmed inside the Abu Ghraib prison


by
Hector Carreon
La Voz de Aztlan

Los Angeles, Alta California - May 16, 2004 - (ACN) There is now ample evidence that the video showing the decapitation of 26 year old Nicholas Berg of Philadelphia by purported Al queda members is a complete fraud. The real Nick Berg may or may not be dead, but the heavily edited video is nothing but a fake. This is the conclusion of La Voz de Aztlan after a frame by frame analysis and the conclusion of hundreds of film, medical and other experts world wide who downloaded, viewed and analyzed the video as well. Literally thousands of persons world wide requested the video, which is rapidly disappearing from the Internet, after our news service published "Nick Berg decapitation video declared a fraud by medical doctor" on Wednesday May 12 and which was linked by other independent news services on the World Wide Web.

With the advent of the Internet, computers and sophisticated programs it has become increasingly difficult for governments to "pull the wool" over the eyes of their citizens. The Internet has essentially allowed freedom loving people around the world to form communication networks that can now out compete the best intelligence government agencies or special operations groups. This has certainly been the case with the hastily released and shoddy video showing five phoney Al queda members participating in the decapitation of Nicholas Berg that was intended, exclusively, to defray attention from the scandalous sexual abuses of Iraqi POW's that took place at the Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad. Evidence in fact shows that the Berg decapitation was filmed inside the walls of the notorious Abu Ghraib prison, this cursed dungeon where probably Satan himself roams its corridors.

It is now known that the opportune decapitation video was first uploaded from London, England to a now defunct website in a server located in Malaysia. The website at http://www.al-asnar.biz was shut down as soon as conservative news outlets like CNN and Fox News were notified. These two news services wasted no time in coming out with headlines like "Islamic Terrorists Decapitate an American in Iraq". Within minutes, local news services from New York to Los Angeles were screaming "Muslim Animals Chop Off the Head of an American" and were showing only short segments of the fake video. Pro-Zionist radio stations in Los Angeles have spent literally days since then talking about the Muslim barbarians and why it is so important to support the war in Iraq.

La Voz de Aztlan became mighty suspicious when we first saw a photograph of the purported Nicholas Berg sitting in front of his captors on a white plastic chair that looked very familiar. In addition, the orange prison overalls he was wearing in the video looked mighty familiar as well. La Voz de Aztlan is very lucky that we have a very large readership base that utilizes both e-mail and our "News-Tips Form" on our home page to send us information. Within minutes we were sent the URL where we could download the entire and original video of Nicholas Berg's decapitation. Immediately after viewing the video, we knew that many things about the video just didn't look right and which defied simple logic.

Some peculiar anomalies became readily apparent after watching the video and others followed after careful analysis. Many of the anomalies were pointed out to us by our readers who responded after downloading and viewing the video themselves. Please refer to the photographs published, along with this article, on our website at http://www.aztlan.net/berg_abu_ghraib_video.htm as these anomalies are described and enumerated below:


http://www.aztlan.net/berg_abu_ghraib_video.htm

Raadsels omtrent dood Berg

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It's the same chair !!!! OMFG !!

Een plastic tuinstoel hebben wij hier ook nog wel ergens staan. Wanneer kan ik de CIA aan mijn deur verwachten? .

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Op woensdag 19 mei 2004 01:30 schreef nietzman het volgende:

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Een plastic tuinstoel hebben wij hier ook nog wel ergens staan. Wanneer kan ik de CIA aan mijn deur verwachten? .

Te flauw in deze context natuurlijk, omdat het onderdeel is van een lijst.
Verder zou ik wel eens willen weten hoeveel plastic tuinstoelen er nou eigenlijk in Irak rondzwerven.

Hehe, eindelijk
heb ik het gruwelijke filmpje helemaal gezien en ik moet zeggen:
zelfs bekeken op deze tijdstip, vond ik hem helemaal niet zo erg gruwelijk.

Ik dacht dat al die arabieren helemaal tekeer gingen met schoppen enzo en hem helemaal plat maken. nounou... viel wel mee dus

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Op dinsdag 18 mei 2004 18:03 schreef Apie74 het volgende:
Op teletekst staat nu dat er 4 verdachten zijn opgepakt die iets te maken hebben met de onthoofding van Berg. Nu maar hopen dat dit klopt! !

volgens jouw bron: "In Irak zijn vier mensen gearresteerd in verband met de onthoofding van de Amerikaan Nick Berg."

Er staat nergens dat ze verdacht worden van de moord, maar gearresteerd zijn ivm de moord, mogelijk zijn het individuen van wie men denkt dat ze iets weten over de verblijplaats van wijlen Al-Zarqawi.

Het wachten is nog op de theorie dat Berg nooit bestaan heeft, zijn 'vader' een acteur is en het filmpje een vermist script van Clive Barker is dat uitvoering kreeg van een groepje joods-amerikaanse studenten die zich afvroegen wat zij voor hun vaderland konden doen met hulp van sponsoring door SGI-computers.

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Op woensdag 19 mei 2004 07:45 schreef sjun het volgende:
Het wachten is nog op de theorie dat Berg nooit bestaan heeft, zijn 'vader' een acteur is en het filmpje een vermist script van Clive Barker is dat uitvoering kreeg van een groepje joods-amerikaanse studenten die zich afvroegen wat zij voor hun vaderland konden doen met hulp van sponsoring door SGI-computers.

Het zou me niet verbazen.....

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Op woensdag 19 mei 2004 01:31 schreef Ype het volgende:
Te flauw in deze context natuurlijk, omdat het onderdeel is van een lijst.
Verder zou ik wel eens willen weten hoeveel plastic tuinstoelen er nou eigenlijk in Irak rondzwerven.

Natuurlijk is het flauw, maar het is maar even om aan te geven hoe vergezocht sommige van de punten op de lijst zijn.

Als de allmighty CIA een dergelijke onthoofding in scene zou zetten, zouden ze dan dergelijke details vergeten? Zouden ze echt iemand in een Amerikaans gevangenentenue laten zitten? Kom op, natuurlijk zijn die Amerikanen niet zo snugger, maar zulke domme fouten? .

En ik denk toch een behoorlijk aantal plastic tuinstoelen in Irak rondzwerven. Ik kan me nog foto's herinneren van de bombardementen waar de Iraki's hun bezittingen onder het puin vandaan haalden. En daar zaten ook meerdere keren plastic tuinstoeltjes bij.