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Op vrijdag 16 januari 2004 03:02 schreef FremantleDockers het volgende:

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Ok, even voor de idioten (lees: mij), wat deden ze in godsnaam in Scream 3?!?!?
En is deze baggerfilm daardoor de moeite waard? I mean, kun je hem daarvoor kijken of is het echt een cameo van een seconde of wat?


je ziet ze voorbij rijden in zo'n Universal Tour,zehebben 2 regels text ofzo
Not tonight, I've got a headache[br]Rokers zijn potentiele kankerlijers
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Not tonight, I've got a headache[br]Rokers zijn potentiele kankerlijers
  vrijdag 16 januari 2004 @ 13:01:39 #53
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Kevin Smith heeft zijn beste tijd wel gehad. De scherpe randjes zijn eraf en hij heeft zijn ziel aan Hollywood verkocht.
weg
  zondag 28 maart 2004 @ 17:29:52 #54
56685 kinky_queen
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JERSEY GIRL
RATING: 7/10

Review Date: March 22, 2004
Director: Kevin Smith
Writer: Kevin Smith
Producer: Scott Mosier
Actors: Ben Affleck as Ollie
Raquel Castro as Gertie
Liv Tyler as Maya
Genre: Dramedy
Year of Release: 2004

PLOT:
A man in love with his pregnant wife falls into a tailspin when his daughter is born but his doting better-half, passes away during the birth. Self-involved and ineffectual as a single parent, the man asks his dad to take care of the kid, until he loses his way even further and must raise the child on his own. Seven years later, the daughter is all growns up and looks like a mini-version of J-Lo. Cutie-pie.

CRITIQUE:
This is definitely a different kind of Kevin Smith movie. From the man who brought us corpse-sex and cocksmokers back in 1994's $27,000 movie CLERKS, comes a sweet story about a man, his daughter and the unconditional love between them. This is not a film for the legion of Smith's habitual fans (well, maybe those with girlfriends and wives...), but it does serve its purposes for the more commercially receptive audiences to which this film is clearly being marketed. I liked this movie for a number of reasons, prime among them being the believable and touching relationship between the father and daughter, as well as both of the actors portraying the characters, Ben Affleck and Raquel Castro, respectively. Castro, in particular, is about as adorable as any kid actor that I've seen in a long time and Smith takes full advantage of her cuteness. It doesn't hurt that she eerily resembles her mother in the film, played nicely by Jennifer Lopez, in a few early scenes. I've had a "hard" and an "on" for Lopez since her sultry turn in OUT OF SIGHT, but that's a whoooole other story, my friends. The relationship between Affleck and Castro is essentially what rolls this movie along, rocking between a couple of emotional scenarios that actually twinkled my own shit and some goofier kid/parent moments. My favorite scene in the entire film features Affleck facing his kid in a crib for one of the first times and confessing a whole bunch of his pent up emotions. The man is extremely effective in the scene. I've been a supporter of Affleck since he choked me up in ARMAGEDDON (and wasn't he the fuckin' bomb in PHANTOMS?), but even more seriously, in both BOUNCE and CHANGING LANES, two roles for which I don't believe he's been given enough credit.

That said, he needed to carry this film's emotional core on his sleeve and did so with great success. I also appreciated the semi-relationship developed between he and Liv Tyler, which didn't take the typical route. Despite most of the film being somewhat predictable, the relationship between those two characters was actually a lot more open-ended (me likey open-ended) On the downside, I'm not a fan of "montages" and this film just had too many of them, as well as an over-emphasis on songs to "make the moment". A couple of goofball characters, friends of Affleck's father in the film, were also obviously inserted for comic relief, but did nothing for me. The film's final 20 minutes were also surprisingly generic and even a little cheesy (then again, I hate plays with a passion!) Smith does succeed in making his film look damn polished though and that's a big credit to him (and cinematographer Vilmos Zsigmond), since his directing prowess has always been one of his least mentioned strengths as a filmmaker. The script also maintains a decent balance between drama and comedy, although it's definitely geared more toward the dramatic, and the laughs are generally of the "chuckle kind", as opposed to the ass-tearing hilarious dialogue he banged out in his previous, more low-brow, fare (gotta love that low-brow fare!) In fact, despite a few "Smith-isms", most of the film's dialogue is pretty straightforward/sweet and strays from his habit of having conversations sound too "written" at times. Kudos. The film's not perfect by any means, not helped by the fact that I'm personally not a fan of the sappy stuff, but if you're a father, if you're a daughter or if you're someone like me who wants to be a father with a daughter (aaaaaaaaaaaah!), the film is sure to toggle with many of your own emotional shortcomings, offer easy-going laughs and some damn solid acting and chemistry between pop and daughter. Nifty cameos and a genuine dedication at the end of the film were also nice touches.

On a personal note, it's great to see a filmmaker you admire put his balls on the chopping block and try something so completely different. This film can only help but make Kevin Smith a more rounded movie-man and that's sure to come in handy with his next big project, a little something called THE GREEN HORNET!

van www.joblo.com
  zondag 28 maart 2004 @ 19:08:43 #55
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Well, I saw Jersey Girl

It was either go see the movie or come home and scrub the toilets. I'll curse the that decision for the rest of my days.

The wife thought it was disgusting, gross, stupid, and entirely without a single funny moment. And she liked it much better than I did. I've never walked out of a movie before, but I came darn close to heading out of Jersey Girl after about half an hour. It wasn't funny. It wasn't touching. It was terrible. Easily, the worst movie I've ever seen at the theater.

It was my idea to go see it. Now I have to think of a way to make it up to my wife. Maybe I'll by her one of those Lexuses with the big bow on top. Nah, still not enough.

Trust me: Don't see this movie.
The average burglar breaks in and leaves clues everywhere. But not me. I'm completely clueless.
  zondag 28 maart 2004 @ 19:14:30 #56
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Ebert geeft hem 3,5/4:
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JERSEY GIRL / ***1/2 (PG-13)
March 26, 2004

Ollie Trinke: Ben Affleck
Maya: Liv Tyler
Gertie Trinke: Raquel Castro
Bart Trinke: George Carlin
Arthur Brickman: Jason Biggs
Gertrude: Jennifer Lopez

Miramax Films presents a film written and directed by Kevin Smith. Running time: 102 minutes. Rated PG-13 (for language and sexual content, including frank dialogue).

BY ROGER EBERT

"Jersey Girl" is a romantic comedy written and directed by a kinder, gentler Kevin Smith. It's the kind of movie Hugh Grant might make, except for the way Smith has with his dialogue, which is truer and more direct than we expect. There are a couple of scenes here where a video store clerk cuts directly to the bottom line, and it feels like all sorts of romantic rules and regulations are being rewritten.

The movie stars Ben Affleck as Ollie Trinke, a hotshot Manhattan publicist whose beloved wife Gertrude (Jennifer Lopez) is great with child. I would hesitate to reveal that she died in childbirth if I had not already read and heard this information, oh, like five hundred times, so obsessed is the nation with Ben and J. Lo. Lopez is luminous in her few scenes, helping to explain why Ollie remains so true to her memory that he remains celibate for many years.

His career meanwhile goes to pieces. Under pressure to hold a job while raising a daughter, he loses it one day, fatally offending his employers by causing a scene at the opening of a Hard Rock Cafe; he fails to understand why he should take Will Smith seriously ("Yeah, like the Fresh Prince of Bel Air is ever gonna have a movie career"). By the time the story resumes, he has moved back to New Jersey and is living in the same house with his father Bart (George Carlin) and his beloved daughter Gertie (Raquel Castro), who is now about 7. He's not in public relations anymore; he works with his dad in the public works department.

Because Ben Affleck is a movie star and looks like one, you might expect him to start dating eventually, but no. You might expect that he could find another high-paying PR job, but no. He doesn't, because then there wouldn't be a movie. When a movie isn't working, we get all logical about things like this, but when it works, we relax.

Several times a week, Ollie and Gertie go to the local video store, where she plunders the kiddie section while he makes a quick dash through the bamboo curtain to grab a porno. One night he's confronted by Maya (Liv Tyler), the clerk who claims she's taking a survey about pornography usage, and asks Ollie how many times a week he masturbates. She is seriously disturbed by his reply, alarmed to learn he has had no sex in seven years, and informs him, "We're gonna have some sex."

And it's in a scene like this that Kevin Smith shows why he's such a good comedy writer. There is a bedrock of truth in the scene, which is based on embarrassment and shyness and Maya's disconcerting ability to say exactly what she's thinking, and when Ollie tries to explain why he has remained celibate (except for his relationship with countless porno titles), she patiently explains about sex: "It's the same thing only you're saving the $2 rental fee."

Inarguable logic, but he demurs, finally breaking down and agreeing to a lunch date. And thus does love reenter Ollie's life. For Maya may be bold about sex, but she is serious about love, and soon like Gertie is saying "Hey, you're the lady from the video store" at a moment when it would be much, much better had she not walked into the room.

Liv Tyler is a very particular talent who has sometimes been misused by directors more in love with her beauty than with her appropriateness for their story. Here she is perfectly cast, as the naive and sincere Maya, whose boldness is not a seduction technique but an act of generosity, almost of mercy. It takes a special tone for a woman to convince us she wants to sleep with a man out of the goodness of her heart, but Tyler finds it, and it brings a sweetness to the relationship.

Kevin Smith I believe has spent almost as much time in video stores as Quentin Tarantino, and his study of ancient cliches is put to good use in the closing act of his movie, which depends on not one but three off-the-shelf formulas: (1) The choice between the big city and staying with your family in a small town; (2) the parent who arrives at a school play just at the moment when the child onstage is in despair because that parent seems to be missing, and (3) the Slow Clap Syndrome. Smith is a gifted writer and I believe he knew exactly what he was doing by assembling these old reliables. I'm not sure he couldn't have done better, but by then we like the characters so much that we give the school play a pass.

Besides, without the school play, we wouldn't get a chance to see the set constructed for little Gertie by two of the guys who work with Bart and Ollie in the public works department. Let it be said that the Lyric Opera's set for "Madama Butterfly" was only slightly more elaborate.

Copyright © Chicago Sun-Times Inc.
O+ Audrey O+ (en, in iets mindere mate, O+ Gene Tierney O+)
  zondag 28 maart 2004 @ 20:22:10 #57
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Ik kan toch eigenlijk niet geloven dat een film van Kevin Smith echt idioot slecht is

Ik hoop het niet iig, want het is ook alweer een tijd geleden dat m'n andere favo regisseurs een klapper hebben afgeleverd, zoals bv de Coen broertjes, Scorcese, Allen, Lynch, Carpenter, Argento enz

KOM OP JONGENS! TOON EENS WAT INITIATIEF EN MAAK WEER EENS EEN TOPPER OM ONS BLIJ TE MAKEN!!!
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jezus christus wat een kutfilm is dit geworden zeg...

Enige pluspuntje is een wonderschone Liv Tyler

  dinsdag 3 augustus 2004 @ 22:33:12 #59
3288 MikeyMo
jou are een essol!
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ach jij hebt hem zeker ook vandaag gedownload, ik ga hem morgen kijken
[b]Op vrijdag 7 november 2008 08:54 schreef santax het volgende:[/b]
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Blij dat er nog mensen hier zijn waar ik me wel in herken.
U, meneer MikeyMo, bent mijn nieuwe FOK!-held _O_
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"Several times a week, Ollie and Gertie go to the local video store, where she plunders the kiddie section while he makes a quick dash through the bamboo curtain to grab a porno. One night he's confronted by Maya (Liv Tyler), the clerk who claims she's taking a survey about pornography usage, and asks Ollie how many times a week he masturbates. She is seriously disturbed by his reply, alarmed to learn he has had no sex in seven years, and informs him, "We're gonna have some sex."

Waarom gebeurt mij dit nou nooit?
  woensdag 4 augustus 2004 @ 05:50:08 #61
3288 MikeyMo
jou are een essol!
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omdat jij er niet uitziet als Ben Affleck
[b]Op vrijdag 7 november 2008 08:54 schreef santax het volgende:[/b]
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Blij dat er nog mensen hier zijn waar ik me wel in herken.
U, meneer MikeyMo, bent mijn nieuwe FOK!-held _O_
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Wat een leuke film!

Had ik niet verwacht na alle negatieve reacties te hebben gelezen. Ok het is geen Clerks maar vond hem toch beter dan die andere View Askew films.

Het verhaal is wel een standaard Hollywood drama/romantisch drama, maar wel heel goed uitgevoerd! Alles is heel geloofwaardig en niet zo overdreven. Aan het einde zie je dat hij het gemaakt heeft voor zijn overleden "pop" (pa). Denk dat dat ook de reden is van deze wendig na die andere films.

En er zitten zeker wel hele leuke grappen in! De eerste scene waar die kinderen wat voorlezen en die ene gast zijn blaadje is opgegeten door de hond, maar hij poepte het niet uit. En met die baby dat hij die luier moet verschonen met al die poeder haha. "Only married people show eachother there..eh...eh parts.

Het is zeker geen hoogstandje zoals Clerks, maar echt een volwassen degelijke film die erg geloofwaardig is.
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Hmm.. ik moet zeggen dat de negatieve reviews me nogal verbazen. Ok, het is geen Chasing Amy (mijn favoriete KS film), maar ik vond hem toch zeker niet slecht. Er zitten echt wel wat pakkende momenten in en ik vind Ben Affleck in Kevin Smith's films veel beter dan in bijvoorbeeld Daredevil
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In het begin is het voordelig dat J-Lo karakter snel doodgaat, omdat ze zeer slecht/irritant aan het acteren was en totaal ongrappig. Over Ben's acteerkunsten zullen we het maar niet hebben omdat bv zijn poging om te huilen gewoonweg tenenkrommend slecht was.

Kevin Smith stelt heel erg teleur met dit prulwerk. Het verhaal is al zoveel keren gedaan en dus onorginieel. Wat deze film konden redden waren goede grappen, maar er ging mij zelfs geen een glimlachje van af.

Bagger
  donderdag 22 september 2005 @ 08:38:29 #65
3288 MikeyMo
jou are een essol!
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ik vind het wel frappant dat J.Lo in het begin flink onde3rdeel was van de marketing, zie ook de poster in de OP, maar later op geen poster/dvd-sleeve terug te vinden was...
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Blij dat er nog mensen hier zijn waar ik me wel in herken.
U, meneer MikeyMo, bent mijn nieuwe FOK!-held _O_
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Op donderdag 22 september 2005 08:38 schreef MikeyMo het volgende:
ik vind het wel frappant dat J.Lo in het begin flink onde3rdeel was van de marketing, zie ook de poster in de OP, maar later op geen poster/dvd-sleeve terug te vinden was...
Omdat er toen de film uitkwam geen Ben & Jen meer was.
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