Russia vs Ukrain #51 Ukraine's funding rope ends

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2023 19:17 schreef Lospedrosa het volgende:

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Het definitief opblazen van de gehele infrastructuur welke eigendom was van EU landen is op eigen houtje gebeurt door Oekraïne.
Vind ik nog steeds een zeer kwalijke actie.
Misschien was de pijplijn nooit een goed idee maar de beslissing nemen tot vernietiging van bezit van landen die jou steunen.
Mwoah.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2023 19:56 schreef Wantie het volgende:

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Je zegt dat heel stellig, maar vooralsnog zijn er meerdere landen die ervan verdacht worden.

Even los van dat je reactie niet in de context is.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2023 20:01 schreef Lospedrosa het volgende:

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Nee de laatste weken niet meer.
Als zelfs de naam van de organisator bekend is en dit niet wordt tegengesproken door het oekrainse ministerie. (Maar ze hebben de man in Kiev in de cel gegooid)

https://www.reuters.com/w(...)ton-post-2023-11-12/

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2023 20:01 schreef Lospedrosa het volgende:

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Nee de laatste weken niet meer.
Als zelfs de naam van de organisator bekend is en dit niet wordt tegengesproken door het oekrainse ministerie. (Maar ze hebben de man in Kiev in de cel gegooid)

https://www.reuters.com/w(...)ton-post-2023-11-12/

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En er is helemaal niemand die die "Roman Chervinsky" even is gaan googlen?

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SBU head: Special Forces officer Chervinsky, whose actions led to shelling of Kanatove airfield, notified of suspicion

Officer of the Special Forces Roman Chervinsky, who is hiding from the investigation, is a de facto deserter, has been notified of suspicion of abuse of authority and will not escape responsibility, Head of the State Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) Vasyl Maliuk said.

In an interview with Interfax-Ukraine, answering about the prospect of investigating the case against the military, who wanted to organize a special operation to hijack a Russian aircraft in the summer of 2022, as a result of which the enemy received information about the location of the Ukrainian aircraft and delivered a missile gift at Kanatove airfield, Maliuk said: "Literally today, a key defendant, Roman Chervinsky, was suspected of abuse of power. Since a person who previously liked to give interviews and engage in personal PR is hiding from the investigation, does not come for interrogations, and is even absent from his place of residence."

According to the SBU head, Chervinsky is actually a deserter, since he has not appeared in the service for almost eight months.

Maliuk said the State Bureau of Investigations (SBI) initiated criminal proceedings on this fact under Article 407 of the Criminal Code (unauthorized leaving a military unit or place of service).

"But no tricks will help to avoid responsibility. In my opinion, the scoundrel, whose actions led to the death of one Ukrainian soldier and the wounding of seventeen more, should be punished. Indeed, some characters decided that they could arbitrarily carry out the so-called 'special operation' and Russian aircraft. They began to communicate with the enemy pilot, who allegedly agreed to go over to the side of Ukraine," Maliuk said.

He drew attention to the fact that the SBU and the Main Intelligence Agency of the Ministry of Defense immediately expressed their comments on this plan, it was not agreed upon by other public agencies, since the special operation contained many risks, "but some people decided to act at their own discretion."

"As a result, they didn't get the enemy aircraft, but the enemy found out where the Ukrainian planes and personnel were stationed. And launched a missile attack. The commander of the military unit was killed, and 17 defenders were injured. Not to mention the completely broken two combat fighters, the destroyed runway, other equipment and buildings," the SBU head said.

"Obviously, Chervinsky's actions, which led to such consequences, need a legal assessment. The SBU opened criminal proceedings. Therefore, everything is logical and according to the law," the SBU head said.

He also said the case was opened under Part 5 of Article 426-1 of the Criminal Code (exceeding power or official authority by a military official).

Earlier, materials were published in the media, according to which Chervinsky, an officer of the Special Forces, tried to recruit one of the Russian pilots to fly a combat aircraft to Ukraine.

The SBU is investigating the circumstances of the missile attack on Kanatove airfield in Kirovograd region in July 2022, which occurred due to unauthorized actions of individual servicemen.

"The State Security Service of Ukraine is investigating all the circumstances that led to a massive missile attack on Kanatove airfield on July 23, 2022. According to the investigation, this shelling was provoked by unauthorized actions of individual servicemen who decided to conduct a so-called 'special operation' to seize the aircraft of the aerospace forces Russia, whose pilot allegedly agreed to the proposal to go over to the side of Ukraine," the Ukrainian security service said in the statement.

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Ukraine servicemen accused of treason over unauthorised mission

KYIV, April 20 (Reuters) - A number of Ukrainian servicemen have been accused of treason for giving away information during an unauthorised mission that enabled Russia to attack a military airfield, Ukraine's SBU security agency said on Thursday.

The SBU said in a statement that the servicemen had attempted, "without coordination with the relevant state authorities", to seize a Russian plane last July after its pilot said he would defect.

During the "special operation", they revealed details about the location of Ukrainian air force personnel and aircraft that made it possible for Russia to carry out a successful missile strike on the Kanatove airfield in central Ukraine, it said.

A Ukrainian commander was killed, 17 other personnel were wounded, two fighter jets were destroyed and the airstrip, buildings and equipment suffered significant damage, the SBU said in the statement posted on the Telegram messaging app.

The SBU did not say how many service personnel were involved, or identify them, but said they were accused of treason and abuse of their position.

"According to the investigation, the (air) strike was caused by the arbitrary actions of individual servicemen who decided to... seize a plane of the Russian Aerospace Forces, whose pilot supposedly agreed to an offer to defect to Ukraine," it said.

"These actions of individual servicemen, which led to serious consequences, death and injury of Ukraine's defenders and harmed the country's defence capabilities, require an appropriate legal assessment."

The accused could not be reached for comment. Russia, which invaded Ukraine in February last year, did not comment on the SBU statement.

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Russian missile strike kills three in central Ukraine - governor

KYIV, July 23 (Reuters) - Three people were killed when 13 Russian missiles hit a military airfield and railway infrastructure in Ukraine's central region of Kirovohrad on Saturday, the regional governor said.

Two security guards were killed at an electricity substation, Governor Andriy Raikovych said on television. One Ukrainian soldier was also killed and nine more were wounded, he said.

The governor said later that 19 people had been wounded in the strike, but did not clarify whether they were soldiers or civilians.

Raikovych said the strikes had disrupted the electricity grid and that one district of the regional capital Kropyvnytskyi had been left without power as a result.

En die Roman Chervinsky moet dan het grote brein achter de sabotage actie zijn? Terwijl die kerel na de bewuste aanval eind juli 2022 was ondergedoken omdat hij werd gezocht vanwege hoogverraad. Vervolgens kan hij even rustig in samenwerking met de hoger gegradueerden de Nord Stream opblazen eind september 2022 (2 maandjes later terwijl hij ondergedoken zit)... Sounds legit allemaal, ik snap ook niet dat de WP/Bild hier niet wat kritischer naar gekeken hebben.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2023 20:20 schreef Straatcommando. het volgende:
Oftewel, het is aannemelijker dat Osama er achter zit dan dat figuur.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2023 20:01 schreef Lospedrosa het volgende:

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Nee de laatste weken niet meer.
Als zelfs de naam van de organisator bekend is en dit niet wordt tegengesproken door het oekrainse ministerie. (Maar ze hebben de man in Kiev in de cel gegooid)

https://www.reuters.com/w(...)ton-post-2023-11-12/

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2023 19:11 schreef Candymannetje het volgende:

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Maar het is wel een potentiële dreiging toch?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2023 20:55 schreef Wantie het volgende:

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Geen idee of dat zo is, wel heeft Rusland laten zien dat het land een bedreiging kan vormen, dus is de Navo uitgebreid met nieuwe lidstaten en hebben bestaande lidstaten hun militaire budget opgeschroefd.

Je kunt argumenteren dat ze dat veel eerder hadden moeten doen, maar voor de inval in Oekraïne was er nog de verwachting dat Rusland een goede bondgenoot kon zijn.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2023 20:44 schreef Wantie het volgende:

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Zie de post van AchJa over dit onderwerp in nws.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2023 20:58 schreef Lospedrosa het volgende:

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Achja heeft goede inzichten vaak.
Wat zei die dan?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2023 21:07 schreef UncleScorp het volgende:
Mooi toch die BNW tolerantie.
Een BNW post in NWS zou iets minder volwassen ontvangen worden.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2023 20:19 schreef Straatcommando. het volgende:

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Schaamteloze copy paste van een uitstekend post in nws.:
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En die Roman Chervinsky moet dan het grote brein achter de sabotage actie zijn? Terwijl die kerel na de bewuste aanval eind juli 2022 was ondergedoken omdat hij werd gezocht vanwege hoogverraad. Vervolgens kan hij even rustig in samenwerking met de hoger gegradueerden de Nord Stream opblazen eind september 2022 (2 maandjes later terwijl hij ondergedoken zit)... Sounds legit allemaal, ik snap ook niet dat de WP/Bild hier niet wat kritischer naar gekeken hebben.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2023 21:22 schreef Candymannetje het volgende:

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Aha gij bent zunne wappie

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2023 21:13 schreef Lospedrosa het volgende:
Als je in Corona tijd tegen zoveel grote media inging kreeg je al snel een naam.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2023 22:05 schreef Candymannetje het volgende:

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Ieder z'n specialiteit.
Ik focus me meer op het UA-Rus conflict.
Jij zit meer op corona denk ik.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2023 21:12 schreef Candymannetje het volgende:

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Geen idee? Je zegt zelf dat Rusland een bedreiging is voor de Baltische staten omdat die de grenzen van de oude sovjet unie in ere wilt herstellen.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2023 21:13 schreef Lospedrosa het volgende:

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Tja maar dan zeg je wel dat de NYT, Bild, der Spiegel en Reuters dus gewoon klinklare onzin zit te verkopen.

Als je in Corona tijd tegen zoveel grote media inging kreeg je al snel een naam.