Dit is een van de brigades die actief was tijdens de pogrom.quote:
En wat is precies de 'overreactie' in deze? Israël is in oorlog met Hamas. Het doel is om Hamas zodanig te verzwakken dat zij geen bedreiging meer vormen. Er zijn weinig andere realistische opties dan de huidige aanpak. Hamas gokt erop dat de internationale gemeenschap de reactie van Israël zou gaan framen als 'overreactie', zodat zij zelf met hun wangedrag overal mee wegkomen. Dat lijkt te werken.quote:Op vrijdag 10 november 2023 23:50 schreef -XOR- het volgende:
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Beide, zowel de rondwarende Jodenhaat als de Israelische overreactie is problematisch.
Indonesisch ziekenhuis?quote:
Oh ja?quote:Op zaterdag 11 november 2023 08:47 schreef Pleun2011 het volgende:
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En wat is precies de 'overreactie' in deze? Israël is in oorlog met Hamas. Het doel is om Hamas zodanig te verzwakken dat zij geen bedreiging meer vormen. Er zijn weinig andere realistische opties dan de huidige aanpak. Hamas gokt erop dat de internationale gemeenschap de reactie van Israël zou gaan framen als 'overreactie', zodat zij zelf met hun wangedrag overal mee wegkomen. Dat lijkt te werken.
quote:Ethnicity one of the largest factors in antisemitic attitudes in the UK - study
Daniel Allington, one of the researchers told PsyPost.org "All our data were collected in the UK, so it’s possible that things may work differently in other countries."
UK-based researchers show that anti-hierarchical aggression, totalitarianism, and belief in malevolent global conspiracies are the biggest indicators of antisemitic attitudes, in a study published last May.
The study was published in the peer-reviewed Nature Journal and was attempting to understand how antisemitism, traditionally a right-wing problem, has become prominent in the left.
The research split antisemitism into Judeophobic Antisemitism, representing the "old" antisemitism which originates in pre-Israel times whereas Antizionist Antisemitism focuses on extreme and irrational anti-Israel positions that are a form of disguised antisemitism.
The research conducted between October and December 2020 showed strong correlations between belief in various conspiracy theories, including malevolent global conspiracies, personal well-being conspiracies, government malfeasance conspiracies, and Judeophobic Antisemitism.
The researchers gave these as examples of conspiracies "A small secret group of people is responsible for making all major world decisions such as going to war," "The spread of certain viruses and/or diseases is the result of the deliberate, concealed efforts of some organisations," and "The government permits or perpetrates acts of terrorism on its own soil, disguising its involvement."
Belief in malevolent global conspiracies was the strongest predictor, according to the researchers.
Support for totalitarian political systems was also a strong indicator of Judeophobic Antisemitism, with most agreeing with this statement “To bring about great changes for the benefit of mankind often requires cruelty and even ruthlessness."
All three factors of Right-Wing Authoritarianism, a measure of someone's willingness to submit to authority and carry out the orders of this authority, were positively correlated with Judeophobic Antisemitism whereas they were negatively correlated with Antizionist Antisemitism.
The reverse was true for Left-wing Authoritarianism, where its factors were positively correlated to Antizionist Antisemitism and negatively correlated to Judeophobic Antisemitism.
David Hirsh, one of the researchers told PsyPost.org "On the one hand, antisemites who believe the democratic state to be a trick played on ‘the people’ by ‘the Jews’ might feel justified in tearing it down and taking repressive action against those responsible. On the other hand, political movements that embrace conspiracy fantasies may feel justified in repressing political opponents, are not afraid to overthrow the democratic state, and are also likely to be open to antisemitism."
Ethnicity a big factor
Ethnicity is one of the biggest demographic factors in deciding antisemitism, with researchers finding that non-white ethnic groups exhibited more antisemitism than white ethnic groups, both Judeophobic and Antizionist Antisemitism. Researchers explain this by showing how ethnicity correlates heavily with beliefs in Malevolent Global conspiracies. It should be noted the research was conducted exclusively in the UK and thus can only indicate antisemitic attitudes in the UK and not abroad.
Daniel Allington, one of the researchers told PsyPost.org "All our data were collected in the UK, so it’s possible that things may work differently in other countries."
Adding, "We also don’t really know why these attitudes are associated with antisemitism. My hunch is that they all have something to do with a rejection of the modern world: there’s the idea that the evil people are secretly running the show, there’s the feeling that we’d be better off without democracy, and then there’s the desire for revenge against whoever seems to be doing well in the world as it is."
quote:"If you look at the footage..they will see something at least as barbaric as what the nazis did. But here's the difference. They did it with glee. They were deeply proud."
--Douglas Murray, Israel-Gaza border
Dat vind ik prima, die discussie moet sowieso gevoerd worden. Het zijn ook marsen van de haat en dat wordt in de media nog teveel onderbelicht.quote:Op zaterdag 11 november 2023 09:10 schreef UitStraling het volgende:
Ondertussen gaat het in GB alleen nog maar over het feit dat Suella Braverman de pro-Palestina protesten hate marches noemt.
Dan houden we als westerse wereld het gebied een tijdje bezet en verlaten we het na 20 jaar weer zoals we ook in Afghanistan gedaan hebben en zijn we vervolgens weer verbaast dat radicalen wederom het land kapen.quote:Op vrijdag 10 november 2023 18:56 schreef Tekaschi het volgende:
, dan hoop je maar dat Israël en de internationale gemeenschap deze mensen na afloop van deze oorlog niet aan hun lot overlaten.
Die slag heeft ze al lang verloren, als er ook maar een bushokje sneuvelt kan ze een ander baantje zoeken.quote:Op zaterdag 11 november 2023 09:14 schreef Cuendillar het volgende:
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Dat vind ik prima, die discussie moet sowieso gevoerd worden. Het zijn ook marsen van de haat en dat wordt in de media nog teveel onderbelicht.
Dat klopt wel, maar ik bedoel dat de doorsnee burger al snel meegaat in het frame van 'overreactie' en gaat lopen huilen om de 'kinderen' 😭quote:Op zaterdag 11 november 2023 09:07 schreef Cuendillar het volgende:
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Oh ja?![]()
Ik zie anders niet dat Israël zich er wat van aantrekt.![]()
Ik heb het al eerder gezegd, Hamas Vecht deze oorlog met wapens van de vorige oorlogen, maar die nu niet meer werken. Israël gaat echt niet stoppen over internationale druk.
Niet meer dan normaal lijkt mij...quote:Op zaterdag 11 november 2023 09:18 schreef Pleun2011 het volgende:
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Dat klopt wel, maar ik bedoel dat de doorsnee burger al snel meegaat in het frame van 'overreactie' en gaat lopen huilen om de 'kinderen' 😭
Ik ben overigens tegen kinderleed, in welke vorm dan ook. Maar hypocrisie, eenzijdigheid en dubbele moraal liggen er nogal dik bovenop bij dit conflict.
Het kwaad komt helaas alleen in menselijke vorm, al het overige is een misinterpretatie van de ijskoude onverschilligheid van het universum.quote:Op zaterdag 11 november 2023 09:30 schreef Cuendillar het volgende:
Hamas is echt het kwaad in menselijke vorm.
Hoe vermijden we om te zeggen dat het de islam isquote:
Helaas de wet van de getallen, it's coming to a theatre near you.quote:Op zaterdag 11 november 2023 09:32 schreef Cuendillar het volgende:
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Want die in het Midden-Oosten hield het ook zo lang vol
180 per dag, op zo'n klein inwonersaantal. Dus om de 8 minuten wordt een kind geboren.quote:Op zaterdag 11 november 2023 09:25 schreef deedeetee het volgende:
Ik las net ergens dat elke 10 min. er een kind wordt gedood in Gaza en vroeg mij toen af of er ook cijfers zijn hoe vaak er daar in de zelfde tijd kinderen geboren worden.
Het is nu eenmaal een feit dat grote gezinnen daar eerder regel dan uitzondering zijn.
In die situatie daar 4-5 of meer kinderen de wereld in schoppen ?
Dat zijn het wel natuurlijkquote:Op zaterdag 11 november 2023 09:10 schreef UitStraling het volgende:
Ondertussen gaat het in GB alleen nog maar over het feit dat Suella Braverman de pro-Palestina protesten hate marches noemt.
Weet niet of dit al was gepost, las ergens anders dat de bijstelling deels lag aan Hamas terroristen die abusievelijk waren meegeteld als Israëlische burgers.quote:Israel revises death toll from Oct. 7 Hamas assault, dropping it from 1,400 to 1,200
Foreign Ministry official gives new number as Israel continues painstaking efforts to identify the victims of terrorists' brutal rampage
Israel said Friday it had revised the death toll of the October 7 Hamas attack on Israeli communities and military bases in southern Israel down from around 1,400 to roughly 1,200 people.
The revised figure was provided by Foreign Ministry spokesman Lior Haiat, as Israel continues its painstaking efforts to identify all victims, five weeks after the atrocities took place.
Haiat did not offer details on the reason for the revised figures. But beyond the victims, Israel has said some 1,500 terrorists are believed to have been killed by security forces as the attack and the Israeli response unfolded, leaving authorities with thousands of corpses to process.
Authorities have continued for the past month their work to identify the victims of Hamas’s massacre in southern Israel, after thousands of terrorists broke through the border fence and slaughtered families in their homes and on the streets, as well as party-goers at a rave. Some victims were tortured, raped, burned and mutilated, with many of the acts filmed by the perpetrators. The attackers also killed hundreds of soldiers situated near the border.
The death toll is likely to continue to fluctuate for some time to come. Some of the over 240 people abducted to the Strip are thought to not be alive, though there are no official estimates. Additionally, as time has passed, there has been a steady trickle of reports on individuals who had been thought kidnapped but who have since been confirmed, through forensic and other evidence, to have died.
This week the Israel Antiquities Authority said archaeologists who joined efforts to identify victims had uncovered the remains of at least 10 people in houses burned during the grisly onslaught.
Most of the identification work has taken place at the Military Rabbinate’s main base in Ramle, where the bodies of the victims have been slowly and agonizingly processed and identified through various technological means.
The most recent death toll from the military had 318 service members killed during the attack itself (37 more have been killed since the IDF launched its ground offensive in Gaza), with police citing another 59 dead. Such figures include armed fighters who tackled the terrorists head-on, but also unarmed service members in non-combat roles who were killed inside their bases, sometimes in their beds.
Police said they have identified 845 civilian deaths.
In response to the attack, Israel declared war against Gaza Strip terror organizations and embarked upon an unprecedented air and ground campaign in the Strip that it says is meant to eliminate Hamas. The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says over 11,000 people have been killed in Gaza, without differentiating between civilians and combatants. Those figures cannot be independently verified and are believed to include those erroneously killed by terror operatives amid the fighting.
Israel says it makes every effort to avoid harming civilians, but that this is unavoidable as it fights a terror organization that is entrenched within the civilian population and which conducts its operations and attacks from within hospitals, residential areas and other civilian cover.
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